Wednesday, 2015-02-11

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dgonzalezHi asalkeld, are you here?00:39
asalkelddgonzalez: hi00:39
dgonzalezi am the auther of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153744/. I am pretty new to openstack development, so i am not sure how i should proceed with this00:40
asalkeldlooking00:40
dgonzalezShould i open a new stack only containing the wsgi change?00:40
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asalkeldo, so just split you one commit into 2 commits00:41
asalkeldthen do the "git review" as normal00:41
dgonzalezok00:41
asalkeldit will post both reviews for you00:41
asalkeldhave the wsgi commit first00:41
dgonzalezok, will do that00:41
asalkeldas it is less risky00:42
asalkelddgonzalez: you need to try and not change the functionality of the code00:42
dgonzalezAnd then, what happens with the stack_resource change? Will i have to add more error checks at other locations?00:42
dgonzalezYeah, but thats difficult in that case...00:42
stevebakerdgonzalez: welcome!00:42
asalkelddgonzalez: you could just drop that change00:43
asalkeldnot sure it's worth the effort00:43
dgonzalezok. Could you explain to me what exactly breaks due to the stack_resource change?00:46
stevebakerdgonzalez: there might be out-of-tree subclasses of StackResource which could break with your change if they haven't implemented those methods00:46
dgonzalezah ok00:47
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openstackgerritDaniel Gonzalez Nothnagel proposed openstack/heat: Use python abc for abstract classes  https://review.openstack.org/15374401:09
dgonzalezi updated the review and dropped the stack_resource changes. Thanks for your help :)01:10
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dgonzalezI will see if i can apply the stack_resource changes in a way that won't change the functionality of the methods involved, but i don't think that it will work.01:12
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asalkelddgonzalez: yeah it looks a bit fiddly to achieve01:14
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dgonzalezasalkeld: yes indeed...01:16
dgonzalezAre there currently any tasks suited for beginners? :-)01:17
asalkelddgonzalez: i'd suggest taking a look at bugs01:17
dgonzalezI was looking into https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1348818 the other day, but it looks like a huge mess :P01:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1348818 in Ceilometer "Unittests do not succeed with random PYTHONHASHSEED value" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Chris Dent (chdent)01:17
asalkeldso is that all about adding sorted() around lists that are asserted?01:19
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asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/109939/2/ironic/tests/test_glance_service.py01:20
asalkeldegh, gets messy indeed01:20
asalkeldnested lists01:20
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dgonzalezyes...01:21
dgonzalezbut i will look into it, seems to me like a good way to get to know the code :)01:22
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asalkelddgonzalez: if the patch starts getting big, just break it up. It makes it easier to review and therefore to get in01:23
dgonzalezok, i will do that01:23
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asalkeldstevebaker: you see this: [openstack-dev] [all][PTLs] Stop releasing libraries/clients without capping stable global requirements02:03
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stevebakerasalkeld: ah, I didn't know.02:27
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asalkeldyeah me neither02:38
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asalkeldmiguelgrinberg: ping03:03
miguelgrinberghi asalkeld03:04
asalkeldmiguelgrinberg: i spotted nova instance tags that were added quite receintly03:04
asalkeld(i have just responded to your email)03:04
miguelgrinbergso they have tags and metadata both?03:04
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asalkeldtags - a new thing03:04
asalkeldand filtered03:04
asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/tag-instances,n,z03:04
miguelgrinbergand they have a separate tags table too :)03:05
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asalkeldyeah, so that is a good backing up of our plan03:06
asalkeldbut that api-wg needs some work to fill that info in03:06
miguelgrinbergthere are some aspects of the REST api that I don't like, a pitty I did not see this spec earlier :(03:07
asalkeldthe api is still in review i think03:07
miguelgrinbergI guess I could expand my metadata guideline proposal to also cover tags03:07
miguelgrinbergthe spec is merged03:07
asalkeldo, no that is just some extension03:07
asalkeldthe filtering bit is in03:08
asalkeldDec 2, 2014 11:54 PM03:08
miguelgrinbergah yes, I'm looking at the db and api bits, sorry, wearing two hats here :)03:08
miguelgrinberghave an interest in REST API design as well03:08
asalkeldyip03:08
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miguelgrinbergI was busy today and did not get a chance to talk to jasond``, so I don't know what his plans are03:10
asalkeldok03:11
miguelgrinbergmaybe I'm reading it too fast, but I don't see a way to say give me all instances that do not have a given tag03:12
miguelgrinbergfor us that would be for hiding the hidden stacks03:12
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miguelgrinbergasalkeld: the work we are doing in the api working group is so complicated. If I need to translate tags support into a RESTful task then I'm going to get all the nova guys angry at me for not using their spec.03:14
asalkeldlol03:14
miguelgrinbergas I have the swift guys angry at me for the metadtata spec03:14
asalkeldworking groups are *so* fun03:14
miguelgrinbergyup03:15
asalkeldmiguelgrinberg: well honestly positive logic is best03:15
asalkeldall stacks should then have "visible"03:15
asalkeldand if you want it hidden you kill the tag03:16
miguelgrinbergbut requires more changes, instead of hidden tags in the config you need visible tags, which get added by default to all stacks. feels kinda weird03:16
miguelgrinbergdon't remember if the config changes merged already, but to me it feels more natural to call out the hidden tags, not the visible ones03:17
asalkeldshrug, just depends on the power of the filter query03:18
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move autoscaling tests with signals to functional  https://review.openstack.org/15355303:19
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Make sure template resource's metadata is refreshed  https://review.openstack.org/15355203:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move reload test to test_instance_group  https://review.openstack.org/15277803:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove some unused functions and improve call_until_true  https://review.openstack.org/15355003:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move scaling group create error to autoscaling/  https://review.openstack.org/15277603:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Pass the resource name into get_resource_info()  https://review.openstack.org/15355103:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove duplicate AS reload test  https://review.openstack.org/15277703:20
miguelgrinbergasalkeld: I think in terms of db queries both options are doable03:20
asalkeldyip, it's more what it looks like from the api03:20
asalkeldthat's where the wg should have it's say03:20
miguelgrinbergbut if you do a stack-list you'll get a lot of noise if most stacks have "visible" tag in them03:20
miguelgrinbergwith my api-wg hat on, I can opine that the nova api is fine, but it can be extended to support negative filters as well03:21
asalkeldmiguelgrinberg: well it's a matter of tag definition03:21
asalkeldthe tag could be "user-created"03:21
asalkeldand "support-created'03:22
asalkeldwhat ever makes sense03:22
asalkeldit's just a tag03:22
asalkeldwe shouldn't get into telling what tag people have to use03:22
miguelgrinbergright, and you should be able to get the list of stacks with a tag, and also the list of stacks that don't have a tag (or set of tags)03:22
miguelgrinbergboth have use cases I think03:23
asalkeldmakes sense03:23
miguelgrinbergnow, if we decide to embrace this idea of tags, then the current structure of a map also goes away and is replaced by a list. Lots of changes this late in the game.03:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use python abc for abstract classes  https://review.openstack.org/15374403:24
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asalkeldmiguelgrinberg: better now than figure this out when merged03:28
asalkeldstevebaker: you have some reviews for me to look at?03:29
stevebakerasalkeld: yep https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/software-config-trigger,n,z03:30
asalkeldok03:30
miguelgrinbergasalkeld: I'll try to reach out to jasond`` tomorrow to see what he thinks of all this. I'm even happy to help with some of the work if he is up to it.03:30
stevebakerI'm just writing a unit test for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154309/ now. If I comment Done then I've fixed it locally03:30
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asalkeldk03:31
asalkeldi'll wait a little until you re-post03:32
stevebakerfair enough03:32
asalkeldstevebaker: have you reviewed the convergence specs?03:33
asalkeldwe should try get those in03:33
stevebakernope, I'll do some tomorrow03:33
* asalkeld taking my own advice now03:34
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asalkeldlol - i just re-watched "I am an expert video" - genius03:45
asalkeld( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg03:46
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stevebaker10 million views03:57
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Allow empty 'config' for software deployment  https://review.openstack.org/14486504:05
huangtianhuastevebaker: would you please to review ^, thanks04:08
stevebakerhuangtianhua: sure04:08
huangtianhuanot sure about the 'group' and 'name' should be for the empty config04:09
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huangtianhuaand about the empty 'server', will propose another patch later04:10
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stevebakerhuangtianhua: I think you've done the right thing for group. Name could be the physical name of the deployment resource04:22
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/heat: Convert some clients to use auth plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14739204:44
openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/heat: Use auth plugins for domain client and admin client  https://review.openstack.org/14739104:44
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openstackgerritAnusha rayani proposed openstack/heat: Support to upload image from local filesystem from Heat  https://review.openstack.org/15351405:18
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skraynevmorning06:05
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dmn_sdake_: Why was the puppet integration done with hooks rather than resource plugins?06:25
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inc0good morning06:29
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asalkeldinc0: are going staight to the oslo library now?06:36
inc0asalkeld, I'll try my best,06:36
inc0I'm going to rebase it this week06:36
inc0hopefully oslo guys won't take too long to release whatever changes I'll have to make06:36
asalkeldinc0: ok, cool - i looked today and they looked like they needed updating06:36
asalkeldinc0: ping me when it's ready to go06:37
inc0will do06:37
asalkeldi am super keen to get it in06:37
inc0good to hear:)06:37
asalkeldsileht: you in yet?06:37
silehtasalkeld, :)06:38
asalkeldhi06:38
asalkeldi just had a question here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153988/6/specs/kilo/ceilometer-gnocchi-alarm.rst06:38
asalkeldthat having to put magic uuid in there looks somewhat user unfriendly06:39
asalkeldit's fine if there is something to reference06:39
asalkeldcan those metrics not be referred to by name?06:39
cmysterinc0: all well? pretty early for you ;)06:43
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silehtasalkeld, I have answered06:44
asalkeldthx06:45
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asalkeldsileht: approved06:49
silehtasalkeld, thanks06:49
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inc0cmyster, I usually come to work at 7am06:52
inc0company is empty so I can finally code some;)06:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-specs: Add blueprint ceilometer-gnocchi-alarm  https://review.openstack.org/15398806:54
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cmysterinc0: my thoughts exactly... best 3h of the day are from 6 to 907:03
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Just to delete the stack when adopt rollback  https://review.openstack.org/15159407:17
inc0huangtianhua, you could also check in tests if resources are still present07:20
inc0and congrats on your core status:)07:20
huangtianhuainc0: thanks :)07:21
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huangtianhuainc0: and I think whether the resources are still present should be determined by the stack.delete(action=self.stack.ROLLBACK, abandon=True)07:25
inc0well, "should be";)07:25
inc0don't get me wrong, thats just something I would do, but I tend to be overzealous07:25
inc0...sometime07:26
inc0s07:26
cmysternothing wrong with extra catches imo07:26
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Allow empty 'config' for software deployment  https://review.openstack.org/14486507:34
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/heat: Trustee Auth section  https://review.openstack.org/15478208:14
inc0damn, I wanted openstack lizard ;(08:16
inc0openstack liberty sounds a bit...silly imho08:16
inc0lazy lizard would be more catch08:16
inc0y08:16
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cmysterI wanted lube08:20
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inc0that would be interesting...openstack lube... even less friction in your move to cloud08:26
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pas-hamorning all08:34
cmystermorning08:35
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skraynevasalkeld: around?08:51
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asalkeldhi skraynev09:11
skraynevasalkeld: hi,09:11
skraynevI already leave comment about issue with pep809:12
asalkeldok09:12
skraynevlooks like it blocked all patches09:12
skraynev*blocks09:12
asalkeldchecking it out09:13
asalkeldthat irritating: it's a false negative09:16
asalkeld heat/tests/autoscaling/test_scaling_group.py:22:1: H302  import only modules.'from heat.engine.resources import instance' does not import a module09:16
asalkeld"instance" is a module09:16
asalkeldaaa, path change09:18
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asalkeldresources.aws.instance09:19
skraynevasalkeld: oh. your are right09:20
skraynevrelated with decoupling aws and openstack resources :)09:20
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skraynevasalkeld: one more question: do you know how minimal and common images come in functional tests?09:21
asalkeldyip, strange error tho'09:21
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skraynevI see , that we have post_test script with exporting these names09:22
skraynevbut I did not see, that they are registered in glance or were added in localrc for automatic installation during stack.sh09:22
shardyskraynev: IIRC minimal_image_ref is cirros, and image_ref is a Fedora image09:23
shardyOr at least that's the way it worked in tempest09:23
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asalkeldyip09:23
asalkeldshardy: i'll get to finnish this pecky bp soon - I hope09:24
asalkelddang, took a bit of effort09:24
shardyasalkeld: hey, great, I'll catch up on reviews today, been out on PTO for a week ;)09:24
skraynevshardy: yes. it's. but I can not understand how they became available for glance ?09:25
asalkeldnice09:25
shardyasalkeld: Yeah, thanks again for picking it up, it ended up worse than I feared unfortunately :(09:25
skraynevwe just export names and I did not see any image files or references on them09:25
asalkeldwell I am happy with the test rework09:25
shardyskraynev: you mean locally or in the gate?09:25
skraynevon gate09:25
skraynevlocally , I define it myself09:26
asalkeldshardy: btw that stack_validate creates a nova server and doesn't clean up09:26
shardyasalkeld: Hmm, doesn't the test cleanup delete the stack?09:27
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skraynevshardy: I try to find two answers: 1. how can I pass specific image for loadbalancer (will be enough export it in post_test_hook or I should add link in localrc)09:28
asalkeldshardy: it's the one that kinda fails09:28
skraynev2. why i see error messages in glance log09:28
asalkeldhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat_integrationtests/functional/test_validation.py09:29
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move autoscaling tests with signals to functional  https://review.openstack.org/15355309:30
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Make sure template resource's metadata is refreshed  https://review.openstack.org/15355209:30
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move reload test to test_instance_group  https://review.openstack.org/15277809:30
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove some unused functions and improve call_until_true  https://review.openstack.org/15355009:30
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move scaling group create error to autoscaling/  https://review.openstack.org/15277609:30
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Pass the resource name into get_resource_info()  https://review.openstack.org/15355109:30
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove duplicate AS reload test  https://review.openstack.org/15277709:30
skraynevshardy, asalkeld: http://logs.openstack.org/76/152776/4/check/check-heat-dsvm-functional-mysql/e050ad3/logs/screen-g-api.txt.gz?level=ERROR09:30
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skraynevhm.. may be it's negative tests...09:31
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat_integrationtests/common/test.py#L36609:31
shardyasalkeld: Ah, the cleanup handler gets added after the stacks.create fails09:31
shardyalthough, actually, it doesn't fail, we just look for IN_PROGRESS, so why doesn't the cleanup by name work?09:32
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asalkeldshardy: not a priority09:37
shardyasalkeld: Ok np, I'll try to reproduce and figure out what's wrong09:37
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shardymaybe the cleanup should call _stack_delete instead of heatclient directly, otherwise there will be a short time after the test ends where the stack is still getting deleted09:39
skraynevguys, when you finish, please ping me :) my questions are steel actual :)09:39
shardyskraynev: You probably want to look at stevebaker's patches which show how to build and use a custom image09:40
shardyout of interest, why do you need a custom image for the LB?09:40
skraynevshardy: yeah, I though about it.09:40
skraynevshardy: for this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153192/09:40
skraynevAWS lb uses hard coded image09:41
skraynevwith fedora 2109:41
skraynevother tests use fedora 2009:41
skraynevAlso I try to understand what the error in glance log in our tests09:42
shardyskraynev: gah, we probably need to override loadbalancer_template in the test heat.conf then09:42
skraynevf.e. http://logs.openstack.org/76/152776/4/check/check-heat-dsvm-functional-mysql/e050ad3/logs/screen-g-api.txt.gz?level=ERROR09:42
shardyskraynev: by the looks of it the tests got moved to F21 then reverted:09:42
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/141230/09:42
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pas-hafyi, in order to use F20 with AWS LB quite some more fiddling around selinux is needed, that's why I've went with F21 for default implementation09:44
skraynevshardy: Yahoo! you pointed me where we define this image :)09:45
pas-hayou can check for reasoning in comments to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126263/09:45
skraynevshardy: may be we can add in localrc additional image for fedora 2109:46
shardyskraynev: ideally, I'd suggest working with stevebaker so we can move everything to F2109:46
skraynevshardy: here https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat_integrationtests/pre_test_hook.sh09:46
skraynevshardy: got it ;) I suppose, that he will be here later09:47
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer  https://review.openstack.org/15319209:53
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add image_id property to node group template  https://review.openstack.org/13998910:20
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add sahara image constraint  https://review.openstack.org/15007610:20
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inc0guys, there was a change in oslo import structure? I can se dhellman doing import oslo_messaging ...10:29
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shardyinc0: Yes, that's the new un-namespaced way of doing oslo library imports10:35
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inc0hello Qiming, congrats for core status11:06
Qimingthank, inc011:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: OS::Neutron::Subnet needs IPV6 RA mode property  https://review.openstack.org/14973611:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Just to delete the stack when adopt rollback  https://review.openstack.org/15159411:36
dmn_shardy: With puppet integration in heat, it is not required to have a seperate node for master, right? Heat, with the services of os-collect-config, os-refresh-config, and os-apply-config can act as a master, correct?11:38
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shardydmn_: Yes, heat provides the manifest/data in the server metadata and it's applied in masterless mode11:42
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dmn_shardy: what happens if we modify the manifest. How do the servers get to know about this modification?11:45
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shardydmn_: The server metadata gets updated with the new manfest, which is picked up by os-collect-config, so puppet is triggered (via os-refresh-config and the heat-config hook) again11:45
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* asalkeld heads to bed, early heat meeting for me12:01
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openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First objects - stack and raw template  https://review.openstack.org/14684112:46
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inc0shardy, I've rebased this change to oslo12:48
inc0tests won't pass because oslo isn't released in its ready state, but if you could take a look at heat code, I'd appreciate that12:49
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First objects - stack and raw template  https://review.openstack.org/14684112:53
openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First objects - stack and raw template  https://review.openstack.org/14684112:55
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add a config option to enable Convergence  https://review.openstack.org/15453313:39
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat-specs: Improvements in deprecation process  https://review.openstack.org/15323513:53
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat-specs: Improvements in deprecation process  https://review.openstack.org/15323514:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Move LB reload logic into scaling library  https://review.openstack.org/14360514:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Move scaling group create error to autoscaling/  https://review.openstack.org/15277615:15
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Convergence message bus  https://review.openstack.org/15399915:55
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Convergence message bus  https://review.openstack.org/15399916:16
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openstackgerritTomas Sedovic proposed openstack/heat: Add breakpoint support  https://review.openstack.org/14612316:57
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openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/heat: Catch Conflict exc for floating ip association  https://review.openstack.org/15496717:32
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Do not use volume objects in volume resources  https://review.openstack.org/15442917:50
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Remove TaskRunner from AWS Volume resource  https://review.openstack.org/15497717:50
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openstackgerritamagarw3 proposed openstack/heat: Typos fixed in return messages.  https://review.openstack.org/15466819:04
openstackgerritamagarw3 proposed openstack/heat: Typos fixed in return messages.  https://review.openstack.org/15466819:04
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asalkeldmorning19:57
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asalkeldwe have a meeting in a minute19:59
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openstackgerritVikas Jain proposed openstack/heat: fixed typo from dependant to dependent  https://review.openstack.org/15503920:11
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vijendarjamielennox: after this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146368/9 it seems 'keystone_backend' config option is not respected. do you have any idea?20:43
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sdake_dmn_ I have no idea what you are talking about sorry - try stevebaker ;-)21:13
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat-specs: Update stack-tags spec to reflect recent changes  https://review.openstack.org/15506921:46
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zanebI'm feeling a strong urge to -2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155039/1/heat_integrationtests/functional/test_template_resource.py21:52
zanebis that wrong?21:52
zaneb(that I want to -2 it, I mean)21:53
stevebakerits a first contribution. its hard to know if they are a first contributor, or if they just want to go to summit22:01
harlowjazaneb "<smoser> cloud-init uploaded to vivid running on python3."22:07
harlowjahot off the presses22:07
harlowjalol22:07
harlowja*ubuntu vivid i think22:07
zanebharlowja: awesome, thanks!22:07
harlowjanp22:07
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ryansbzaneb: ehhh, it's a valid change22:08
ryansbbut I can see not wanting to make 1 char change -> summit ticket22:08
zanebI don't care if he gets a free summit ticket, I just don't know if we want to encourage that sort of timewasting22:09
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* asalkeld needs to do more spell checking :-(22:18
asalkeldso stevebaker you running for ptl?22:20
asalkeldyou sound keen;)22:21
stevebakerI was trying to encourage someone else ;)22:21
stevebakerI could, if this morning's meeting is an hour later. I'm more of a summer PTL22:22
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asalkeldhar22:26
asalkeldi would seriously love an hour later22:26
asalkeld6am brain is running on fumes22:27
asalkeldok, bbl kids to school22:27
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Deployment signal_transport: TEMP_URL_SIGNAL  https://review.openstack.org/15152623:25
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Manage deployment updated_at values  https://review.openstack.org/15430823:25
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Move deployment handle_signal to rpc call  https://review.openstack.org/15430923:25
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Expose deployment/config updated_at/created_at  https://review.openstack.org/15430723:25
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Integration test for software-config tools  https://review.openstack.org/11371123:25
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