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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Allow empty 'config' for software deployment https://review.openstack.org/144865 | 00:05 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: do you see an issue with having heatclient depend on swiftclient? We could use swiftclient for --template-object too | 00:06 |
| asalkeld | mmm, only not all clouds have swift | 00:07 |
| asalkeld | but you just suggesting the client | 00:07 |
| stevebaker | sure, but its just a client lib dependency, swift won't be called unless that code is called | 00:07 |
| asalkeld | i don't have a big problem with it | 00:07 |
| asalkeld | we seem to be using swift more and more | 00:08 |
| asalkeld | i am ok with that | 00:08 |
| stevebaker | this is for triggering a deployment from the client, rather than in a deployment resource in a stack | 00:08 |
| stevebaker | the other option is to expect the user to create the tempurl themselves and pass that to the heat deployment-create call | 00:09 |
| asalkeld | phew, no that is much worse | 00:10 |
| stevebaker | yeah | 00:10 |
| asalkeld | user friendly is good | 00:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add 'ha' property for OS::Neutron::Router https://review.openstack.org/143925 | 01:19 |
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| asalkeld | huangtianhua: minor suggestion in the review ^ | 01:30 |
| huangtianhua | asalkeld: thanks, will change:) | 01:31 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron network constraint https://review.openstack.org/135823 | 01:32 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron port constraint https://review.openstack.org/135835 | 01:32 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron subnet constraint https://review.openstack.org/135875 | 01:32 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron router constraint https://review.openstack.org/135880 | 01:32 |
| huangtianhua | asalkeld: also I hope you to review the patches of these ^ :) | 01:33 |
| asalkeld | ok | 01:33 |
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| asalkeld | huangtianhua: have a read of this : https://github.com/openstack/openstack-specs/blob/master/specs/log-guidelines.rst | 01:44 |
| huangtianhua | asalkeld: ok | 01:45 |
| asalkeld | your log levels should be debug | 01:46 |
| asalkeld | i posted a comment | 01:46 |
| asalkeld | huangtianhua: i'll +2 quickly when you sort that out | 01:47 |
| huangtianhua | asalkeld: thanks, will read the guidelines and sort that out | 01:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Deployment signal_transport: TEMP_URL_SIGNAL https://review.openstack.org/151526 | 01:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Manage deployment updated_at values https://review.openstack.org/154308 | 01:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Move deployment handle_signal to rpc call https://review.openstack.org/154309 | 01:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Expose deployment/config updated_at/created_at https://review.openstack.org/154307 | 01:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Integration test for software-config tools https://review.openstack.org/113711 | 01:50 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker: do you think this is a useful test? https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/tests/test_nested_stack.py#L245-L262 | 03:24 |
| asalkeld | shrug, i'll move it to functional | 03:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron port constraint https://review.openstack.org/135835 | 04:13 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron subnet constraint https://review.openstack.org/135875 | 04:14 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron router constraint https://review.openstack.org/135880 | 04:14 |
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| asalkeld | brb picking kids up | 04:31 |
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| inc0 | good morning | 06:57 |
| ananta | good morning | 06:58 |
| ananta | inc0: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128918/4/heat/db/sqlalchemy/api.py | 06:58 |
| ananta | I think its better to have a explicit method to hard delete a stack | 06:59 |
| inc0 | ananta, I disagree, you repeat 80% of code in new function | 06:59 |
| inc0 | it doesn't really contribute to readibility | 06:59 |
| ananta | readability is fine with this method | 07:00 |
| ananta | but I agree that there is some code duplication | 07:00 |
| inc0 | yeah, thats a bad thing | 07:01 |
| inc0 | longer code is harder to read | 07:01 |
| inc0 | ofc there are cases when its advised to duplicate some code, but thats not the one imho | 07:01 |
| ananta | I wanted to keep the hard delete clean so that all we do entirely wipe out the stack is explicit and clear and concentrated in that method | 07:01 |
| inc0 | but you can add flag to do it:) | 07:02 |
| ananta | :) | 07:02 |
| inc0 | and later, when there will be more than 2 lines of code difference, you can make private method out of it | 07:02 |
| inc0 | look at it this way | 07:02 |
| inc0 | we might want to add new logic to delete at some point | 07:03 |
| inc0 | and if we have 3 places to put that logic | 07:03 |
| inc0 | we might miss one:) | 07:03 |
| inc0 | its better to have one and only one place | 07:03 |
| ananta | I actually did that in first place... and then decided that we should keep it in seperate method because data we need to delete when hard deleting a stack will keep on increasing in future | 07:04 |
| inc0 | thats one of reasons why object oriented programming was invented in the first place | 07:04 |
| inc0 | then you can condensate that to one private method | 07:05 |
| inc0 | and call this method from normal delete | 07:05 |
| inc0 | this way you can keep hard-delete code together and it won't duplicate any code | 07:05 |
| inc0 | do you see my point? | 07:06 |
| ananta | I don't know what will be achieved with that :) | 07:06 |
| inc0 | we won't duplicate code.. | 07:07 |
| dmn_ | shardy: with puppet integration in heat, it's not required to have puppet agents on each of the nodes? | 07:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Ishant Tyagi proposed openstack/heat: Fix heat and ceilometer client connection https://review.openstack.org/154022 | 07:08 |
| ananta | inc0: here it's ok to sacrifice a bit of that for explicity and readability | 07:08 |
| inc0 | ananta, only it doesn't...if anything it works *against* readibility | 07:09 |
| inc0 | DRY is good practice for a reason | 07:09 |
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| ananta | inc0: let me see how it looks | 07:11 |
| ananta | thanks | 07:11 |
| inc0 | any time ananta | 07:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence. https://review.openstack.org/155211 | 07:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add a config option to enable Convergence https://review.openstack.org/154533 | 08:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-specs: Add a config option to enable Convergence https://review.openstack.org/152301 | 09:24 |
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| huangtianhua | asalkeld: there？ | 09:38 |
| asalkeld | hi huangtianhua | 09:38 |
| huangtianhua | asalkeld: have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1421119 | 09:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1421119 in heat "adding event should not affect on resource actions" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to huangtianhua (huangtianhua) | 09:39 |
| huangtianhua | asalkeld: not sure how to handle if _add_event raise exception | 09:40 |
| asalkeld | huangtianhua: looking | 09:40 |
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| asalkeld | huangtianhua: i agree that adding an event should not prevent a state change | 09:42 |
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| huangtianhua | asalkeld: I think we can only log it, right? | 09:46 |
| asalkeld | yeah, that's fine | 09:46 |
| huangtianhua | asalkeld: thanks, I will propose a patch for this | 09:47 |
| shardy | jamielennox: Hey, have you seen bug #1420987 ? | 09:52 |
| openstack | bug 1420987 in heat "Heat not working with keystoneclient_v2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1420987 | 09:53 |
| shardy | seems like we may have broken the v2 plugin? | 09:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Hard delete backup stack after successful update. https://review.openstack.org/128918 | 09:56 |
| asalkeld | shardy: i have a sticky problem with decouple nested | 10:04 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Hi | 10:04 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resource.py#L127-L157 | 10:05 |
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| asalkeld | without that code we get infinite recursion | 10:08 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Hmm, under what circumstances does that hit us? | 10:09 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: I manually tested my patches and basic nested stacks worked fine over RPC | 10:09 |
| shardy | admittedly that was a while ago | 10:09 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat_integrationtests/functional/test_template_resource.py#L63 | 10:09 |
| asalkeld | nice having functional tests | 10:10 |
| shardy | ouch, yeah I probably didn't test that :( | 10:10 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: I'm looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116336/16/heat/engine/stack_resource.py trying to figure out how we can fix it | 10:11 |
| asalkeld | i'll try think of some ideas for that | 10:11 |
| asalkeld | which part? | 10:12 |
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| asalkeld | shardy: i'll repost what i have | 10:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move autoscaling tests with signals to functional https://review.openstack.org/153553 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Make sure template resource's metadata is refreshed https://review.openstack.org/153552 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: StackResource convert operations to use RPC https://review.openstack.org/116336 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move reload test to test_instance_group https://review.openstack.org/152778 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove some unused functions and improve call_until_true https://review.openstack.org/153550 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Pass the resource name into get_resource_info() https://review.openstack.org/153551 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove duplicate AS reload test https://review.openstack.org/152777 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Use stack.validate() not stack.create() for limit tests https://review.openstack.org/155237 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move nested stack delete test to functional https://review.openstack.org/155238 | 10:16 |
| inc0 | anything I can help you with guys | 10:16 |
| inc0 | ? | 10:16 |
| asalkeld | inc0: i am ok - aren't you busy with versionedobjs | 10:17 |
| inc0 | it would be nice to have as much calls over rpc in kilo as possible - so in Liberty (I hate this name) we can focus on implementation versioning | 10:18 |
| asalkeld | inc0: agree about the name | 10:18 |
| asalkeld | I wanted Lizard | 10:18 |
| inc0 | I am;) I just want to start thinking on next step and getting familiar with our rpc stuff | 10:18 |
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| inc0 | yeah, although cmyster suggested Lube, which immediatly became my favorite | 10:19 |
| asalkeld | har | 10:19 |
| inc0 | but from original 4 lizard was by far best | 10:19 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Yeah, I was looking at if we could pass the parent_resource ID in via RPC so we can look up the ancestor list in the create | 10:19 |
| shardy | I see you've already started debugging along those lines | 10:20 |
| asalkeld | yeah, yet another option to Stack() | 10:20 |
| asalkeld | :-O | 10:20 |
| asalkeld | brb - kids bed time | 10:20 |
| shardy | asalkeld: parent_resource is already a stack constructor arg, so not too bad.. | 10:21 |
| shardy | ttyl | 10:21 |
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| asalkeld | shardy: the issue is when it actually does the rpc stack_create | 10:31 |
| asalkeld | validate is fine | 10:32 |
| asalkeld | but create gets recursive | 10:32 |
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| asalkeld | cos' parent_resource is none | 10:32 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Yeah, I was suggesting we pass the parent_resource (ID) via RPC, and maybe turn Stack.parent_resource into a property that either returns the parent_resource object, or looks it up in the stack if it's an ID | 10:33 |
| shardy | Then the current Resource __new__ code should still work? | 10:33 |
| asalkeld | ok, sounds reasonable | 10:34 |
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| shardy | I suppose the disadvantage is each create then has to load all the parent stacks from the DB though | 10:35 |
| cmyster | also Lizard is more Australian... | 10:35 |
| cmyster | which is always nice | 10:35 |
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| asalkeld | shardy: the best is if the environment could simulate that accurately | 10:38 |
| cmyster | hmmmm | 10:38 |
| asalkeld | tho' i'd have to look into that a bit more | 10:39 |
| cmyster | shardy: no idea what you two are talking about but I am working on the local machines and if you have a need to a specific env' | 10:39 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Yeah, it's a shame we don't store type in the resource table, then you could use a fancy query to retrieve the type of a list of resource id's via a query which looks up the tree of stack.parent_resource's | 10:39 |
| shardy | I suppose working-but-slow is a good start though ;) | 10:40 |
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| shardy | ah, you mean pass that data down the tree via the environment, that might work :) | 10:42 |
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| asalkeld | shardy: if you do any work on it do your approach | 10:45 |
| asalkeld | i suspect this is also a problem for convergence | 10:46 |
| asalkeld | needs a good solution | 10:46 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Ok, I'll try to take a look later and push if I get anything which works | 10:46 |
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| asalkeld | I am exhausted, calling it quits | 10:55 |
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| jamielennox | shardy: i hadn't seen it - i know I broke some parts of the v2 plugin but they were fixed and it was definitely using the v2 plugin for that | 11:26 |
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| sdake | cdent how goew the battle | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove duplicate AS reload test https://review.openstack.org/152777 | 14:39 |
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| ryansb | folks who work on heat-client: 0.3.0 has been proposed to the global requirements, please vote on the change if you have a chance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154989/1 | 15:38 |
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| sdake | shardy around? | 17:06 |
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| bb_ | hello | 18:02 |
| bb_ | i need help to HOT temple with autoscaling and each instance to have a same ip | 18:02 |
| bb_ | i mean same floating ip | 18:02 |
| bb_ | is that possible ? | 18:02 |
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| SpamapS | bb_: no, floating ips always have one instance | 18:29 |
| SpamapS | bb_: what you probably want is a load balancer. | 18:29 |
| SpamapS | bb_: There are several LBaaS implementations out there. | 18:30 |
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| bb_ | SpamapS: thanks | 20:09 |
| bb_ | Spamaps: Can HOT template run a script ? | 20:09 |
| bb_ | based on HoT output parameter | 20:09 |
| bb_ | ? | 20:09 |
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| jgr | bb_: You could talk to the heat API or write a wrapper script around the command line client to accomplish that. | 20:12 |
| bb_ | jgr: is there any examples you can point to ? | 20:13 |
| jgr | bb_: Not publicly available, I'm afraid :-) | 20:14 |
| bb_ | jgr: Can understand :-) | 20:14 |
| jgr | bb_: But it's fairly simple to quickly whip up. | 20:14 |
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| bb_ | jgr: I am more interested in ceilometer alarms, so my scripts needs to keep polling the alarms.. | 20:15 |
| bb_ | jgr: is there a way my scipt could like to alarms instead of polling to check the CLIs ? | 20:16 |
| bb_ | jgr: I mean listen to the alarms | 20:16 |
| jgr | bb_: No idea. So far I've managed to stay away from Ceilometer entirely, and I kind of like it that way :-) | 20:16 |
| bb_ | jgr: thanks buddy. | 20:17 |
| bb_ | jgr: let me check with ceilomter team | 20:17 |
| jgr | bb_: But heat outputs are fairly easy to poll. Just wrap `heat stack-list` in watch(1) and use the command-line client to grab the outputs once your stack is finished. | 20:17 |
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| jgr | s/poll/access/ even | 20:18 |
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| sdake__ | someone ought to write a software config module for fig ;-) | 20:45 |
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| stevebaker | I'd be happy to help | 20:46 |
| sdake__ | stevebaker current kolla leaning towards using fig for single node container orchestration | 20:46 |
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| sdake | stevebaker https://review.openstack.org/153798 | 20:48 |
| SpamapS | jgr: don't poll heat stack-list .... last I checked, it is pretty expensive. You should have the ID you want to watch, and use show. | 20:49 |
| stevebaker | writing a fig hook should be very easy https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config/elements/heat-config-docker | 20:49 |
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| jgr | SpamapS: Yes, it's what we are doing these days :-) | 20:50 |
| SpamapS | wow fig looks nice and simple | 20:51 |
| jgr | SpamapS: After the fans 747ing away due to a forgotten terminal got on people's nerves... | 20:51 |
| SpamapS | though anything ops related that starts with a major feature being ".... laptop" makes me wonder what scale it is meant for. ;) | 20:51 |
| sdake | it is meant for single node scale ;-) | 20:51 |
| sdake | so laptop is appropriate | 20:51 |
| SpamapS | sdake: but such a thing does not exist in the real world. | 20:51 |
| sdake | basically something goes in and tells fig to run with a config | 20:51 |
| SpamapS | Nothing worth doing in the cloud is single node.. so ? | 20:52 |
| sdake | for example heat softwre config could do that | 20:52 |
| sdake | yes but you coudl use heat to distribute the load to all the nodes in tripleo for example | 20:52 |
| sdake | or altneratively ansible with same model | 20:52 |
| stevebaker | isn't fig becoming the new Docker Inc orchestration thingy? | 20:54 |
| larsks | stevebaker: "docker-compose", yes. | 20:54 |
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| SpamapS | sdake: ok, so it's a bit less capable than kubernetes, but thusly, a bit more simple. | 20:55 |
| sdake | right, single node only - its like ansible only for docker container config :) | 20:55 |
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| SpamapS | sdake: you know, there's.. ansible.. for docker container config. ;) | 21:05 |
| ryansb | why use one config thing when you can use 9? | 21:05 |
| sdake | too much stuff to know :( | 21:05 |
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| larsks | I also would not lump fig and ansible together in the same category... | 21:15 |
| stevebaker | at least they all use yaml, and container orchestration is naturally declarative | 21:17 |
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| sdake | yup | 21:23 |
| sdake | but clearly ansible is multinode and fig isn't really although it can operate multinode | 21:24 |
| sdake | imo time for a third deployment solution in the upstream repos! | 21:27 |
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| sdake | just got a cisco virtual office | 21:28 |
| sdake | this stuff is taking up my whole desk!! | 21:28 |
| * sdake ughs | 21:28 | |
| sdake | need more desk space | 21:28 |
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| dims__ | does it make coffee sdake_? | 21:29 |
| ryansb | does it simulate water cooler gossip? | 21:29 |
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| stevebaker | need reviews on this regression causing change ^ | 21:30 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: approved | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove some unused functions and improve call_until_true https://review.openstack.org/153550 | 23:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Pass the resource name into get_resource_info() https://review.openstack.org/153551 | 23:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve McLellan proposed openstack/heat: Use domain_id from auth token when not configured https://review.openstack.org/151028 | 23:13 |
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| asalkeld | owch, ceilometer getting beaten up on the ml | 23:46 |
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| lifeless | again? | 23:57 |
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