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zaneb | manishg: still about? | 00:51 |
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harlowja | hmmm, i don't see him | 00:51 |
manishg | zaneb: hi. just got home. harlowja: @home :) | 00:52 |
harlowja | ah, cool | 00:52 |
harlowja | zaneb is about to tell a story, yippe | 00:52 |
harlowja | bedtime story | 00:52 |
zaneb | lol | 00:52 |
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manishg | :) | 00:53 |
zaneb | manishg: to cut a long story short, we could have gone that way, but we chose this way | 00:53 |
harlowja | oh man, i was expecting the long version | 00:54 |
harlowja | i'm not asleep yet pappa | 00:54 |
harlowja | *pappie | 00:54 |
zaneb | long version | 00:55 |
manishg | zaneb: I was just curious about it. was it possible to just use a threadpool instead of the TaskRunner/ generator wrapper etc. ? | 00:55 |
zaneb | threads are evil and we're frightened of them | 00:55 |
zaneb | yes, it would totally have been possible | 00:55 |
zaneb | the main concern was testing actually iirc | 00:56 |
zaneb | we had a large body of unit tests | 00:56 |
zaneb | "unit" tests | 00:56 |
zaneb | that were really integration tests | 00:56 |
zaneb | and we wanted to be able to keep running them in a deterministic way | 00:56 |
manishg | zaneb: understable, re threads. it is interesting to debug issues in threads :) | 00:57 |
zaneb | so that we could make the change and have confidence that we were not breaking the world | 00:57 |
zaneb | without having to rewrite all of the tests | 00:57 |
manishg | zaneb: question about scaleability, etc. Any issues with current model or are all large deployment operators happy with it (i.e. working out for them)? | 00:57 |
zaneb | you may want to ask rackspace folks, but I don't hear a lot of complaints | 00:58 |
zaneb | individual stacks don't get that big | 00:58 |
zaneb | trees of nested stacks get very big | 00:59 |
manishg | also, is this the future direction as well? or is there any plan to make changes, etc. Sorry, I don't have much context and trying to pick up. | 00:59 |
zaneb | we split those up in Kilo so that each one goes to a separate engine | 00:59 |
harlowja | manishg ya, the convergence stuff i'm not sure who is the expert on angus? | 00:59 |
manishg | I'm looking at nested stacks :) hopefully, not very complicated ones... still looking into our usecases. | 00:59 |
zaneb | so that has made a big difference to the scalability | 00:59 |
zaneb | we're currently working on moving to a distributed architecture | 00:59 |
zaneb | that the "convergence" that josh just mentioned | 01:00 |
manishg | angus... angus lee ? | 01:00 |
zaneb | angus salkeld | 01:00 |
harlowja | but if u want an overview of the high-level manishg maybe zaneb can provide, i'm not sure who is the local expert | 01:00 |
manishg | I'll look into that also (convergence stuff). thanks zaneb. I think there is a blueprint out for that. | 01:01 |
harlowja | thats bedtime story #2 (convergence) | 01:01 |
zaneb | he's been working on it lately so he can give you an up-to-date view, but I did the initial prototyping so I can probably answer your questions | 01:01 |
harlowja | only one bedtime story per night | 01:01 |
* harlowja is kiddding... | 01:01 | |
zaneb | basically, scheduler.py goes away and each resource to be handled we just put a message on a queue and some worker picks it up and handles it, then triggers the next one(s) | 01:02 |
manishg | one concern, folks here had was changes to the HOT template that would break existing scripts. But I think we are already very sensitive to that and with the template version in script I don't see any major issues with it (and hence a non-issue I'd think). | 01:02 |
zaneb | yeah, we don't break templates ever | 01:02 |
zaneb | they're fully versioned | 01:03 |
zaneb | by "don't break" I mean it's a bug when we break them and we will totally fix it no questions asked ;) | 01:03 |
manishg | cool. yeah, was happy to note that. I'll look into the future work you mentioned. It sounds good. thanks again for the update. | 01:04 |
zaneb | sure, np | 01:04 |
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ramishra | stevebaker: hi around? | 03:27 |
stevebaker | ramishra: hey | 03:27 |
ramishra | stevebaker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1496555 looks like same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1498495. | 03:27 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1496555 in heat "Software Deployment metadata timeout" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Steve Baker (steve-stevebaker) | 03:27 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1498495 in heat "ActionInProgress_Remote: Stack TemplateResourceUpdateFailedTest already has an action (CREATE) in progress." [High,In progress] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 03:27 |
ramishra | http://logs.openstack.org/96/228796/3/check/gate-heat-dsvm-functional-orig-mysql/e013ae4/logs/screen-h-eng.txt.gz?level=ERROR#_2015-09-30_02_11_42_318 | 03:28 |
ramishra | I've put a comment on that regard for 1498495 | 03:29 |
stevebaker | ramishra: I recall your earlier patch, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227156/3 looks cleaner | 03:30 |
ramishra | you mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227156/1? | 03:31 |
stevebaker | yeah | 03:31 |
ramishra | I'm ok with that | 03:31 |
ramishra | shardy suggested we should do it differently, that's why I changed it. | 03:32 |
ramishra | releasing the lock and updating the db together rather than adding eventlet.sleep | 03:36 |
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ramishra | stevebaker: what do you suggest? would you be able to put a comment there and then I can discuss with shardy? | 03:40 |
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stevebaker | ramishra: do you think this fixes the race or just makes the window smaller? It looks fine to me but my brain is fried from a day of triggering a rabbitmq cluster bug | 03:41 |
ramishra | stevebaker: both cases it make the window smaller:). Probably the latest patch is more deterministic. However, IMO, both should suffice for this particular issue, as we are creating an empty template and then updating it. | 03:46 |
stevebaker | ramishra: ok, lgtm | 03:46 |
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stevebaker | ramishra: I've marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1496555 as a duplicate, until it turns out it isn't | 03:48 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1498495 in heat "duplicate for #1496555 ActionInProgress_Remote: Stack TemplateResourceUpdateFailedTest already has an action (CREATE) in progress." [High,In progress] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 03:48 |
ramishra | thanks, sure | 03:49 |
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ramishra | stevebaker: Would you be able to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228796/? This would unblock the gate. | 05:21 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/228118 | 06:11 |
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skraynev | morning all | 06:45 |
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skraynev | stevebaker: around? | 06:47 |
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stevebaker | skraynev: \o | 06:50 |
skraynev | stevebaker: hi. wanted to ask you about any topics related with release candidates status for meeting :) if you have some updates, will be really nice to hear it during meeting todays ;) | 06:53 |
stevebaker | skraynev: I can do an update, it will be short | 06:53 |
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skraynev | stevebaker: ok. that what I wanted :) thx | 06:56 |
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skraynev | meeting time :) | 06:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Change cinder client version to 2 for integration tests https://review.openstack.org/228796 | 07:20 |
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stevebaker | I need to go \o | 08:01 |
skraynev | stevebaker: bb | 08:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Yingzhe Zeng proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Fix the bug when showing event in log format https://review.openstack.org/228389 | 08:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Yingzhe Zeng proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Fix the bug when showing event in log format https://review.openstack.org/228389 | 08:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Remove ceilometer specific config for grenade plugin https://review.openstack.org/226879 | 10:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Reduce frequency of logging environment resources https://review.openstack.org/227441 | 10:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove tests for _show_resource in trove https://review.openstack.org/224746 | 10:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove dead code from StackResource update_with_template https://review.openstack.org/227163 | 11:27 |
openstackgerrit | Martin Mágr proposed openstack/heat-templates: Improve handling of Puppet output https://review.openstack.org/188737 | 11:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/heat: Encode Location header in utf-8 https://review.openstack.org/228821 | 11:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Don't inject extra config into neutron-vpnaas.conf https://review.openstack.org/226651 | 12:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack/heat: Encode Location header in utf-8 https://review.openstack.org/228821 | 12:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Rob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Update Baymodel in Magnum resources https://review.openstack.org/229143 | 13:04 |
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shardy | pas-ha: Hey, I was wondering what the status of bug #1492942 is? | 13:43 |
openstack | bug 1492942 in Heat Templates "gate-heat-templates-dsvm failed at validate-templates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1492942 - Assigned to Pavlo Shchelokovskyy (pshchelo) | 13:43 |
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shardy | If there's no fix likely soon, should we make the job temporarily non-voting? | 13:43 |
pas-ha | need, to merge this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227875/ in heat and then https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227703/ to heat-templates | 13:44 |
shardy | jistr: ^^ | 13:44 |
jistr | thanks | 13:45 |
openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Allow many-to-one glob mapping in registry https://review.openstack.org/227875 | 13:45 |
* pas-ha just rebasing to see if integration job is healed | 13:46 | |
shardy | pas-ha: Looks good, I wonder if there's another way to handle the recursion check, e.g explicitly excluding an exact match of the value in the mapping? | 13:48 |
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pas-ha | do you mean just skip it w/o errors? | 13:48 |
shardy | This approach looks fine, it's just slightly less convenient if we can't transparently allow the OS::* or OS::Heat::* approach for testing | 13:48 |
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shardy | pas-ha: Yeah, because OS::Heat::None will match itself, so there's no need for the glob to resolve | 13:49 |
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shardy | pas-ha: I thought we did something similar when creating the child environment for nested stacks, sec | 13:49 |
pas-ha | oh, got your point, will try | 13:50 |
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shardy | pas-ha: Yeah, I think that's basically why we have item_to_remove in environment.get_child_environment | 13:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to use cache_data for FnGetRefId (3) https://review.openstack.org/226668 | 14:02 |
openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to use cache_data for FnGetRefId (2) https://review.openstack.org/228798 | 14:02 |
openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to use cache_data for FnGetRefId (1) https://review.openstack.org/226663 | 14:02 |
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daneyon_ | i have 2 resource groups for 2 different types of nova instances. Is it possible to have resource group 2 pull an attribute from resource group 1? I am basically trying to get the ip of the server from resource group 1 and pass it to the server(s) in resource group 2. | 15:23 |
pas-ha | daneyon_, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/composition.html#get-access-to-nested-attributes | 15:24 |
daneyon_ | pas-ha thx for sharing, i'm reviewing. | 15:25 |
pas-ha | or for resource group, an extra index needed | 15:25 |
pas-ha | https://github.com/pshchelo/stackdev/blob/master/templates/autoscaling/asg.yaml#L113 | 15:25 |
pas-ha | but do you really need only one (any) IP from RG? | 15:26 |
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pas-ha | AFAIU indexes might change, so that after some scale up/down you might no longer have resource 0.. | 15:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Rob Pothier proposed openstack/heat: Add Bay to Magnum resources https://review.openstack.org/193174 | 15:34 |
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daneyon_ | pas-ha i use the 2 rg's for two different types of server groups (swarm manager and swarm agents). The servers in rg-2 (swarm-agents) need to get the ip address of the swarm-manager in rg-1. | 15:38 |
daneyon_ | I am using a rg for the swarm-manager b/c in the future, I would like to support multiple managers. At that point, I will create the appropriate neutron lbaas resources in the primary template and point rg-2 to the vip created in the primary instead of using the actual ip of the swarm manager in rg-1 | 15:39 |
jasond | skraynev: for some reason i can't add you as a reviewer in gerrit, you're not in the list | 15:40 |
jasond | skraynev: nevermind. if i type in your email rather than your name, it shows up | 15:41 |
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daneyon_ | pas-ha where does resource.0 come from in the asg example you provided? | 16:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to use cache_data for FnGetRefId (3) https://review.openstack.org/226668 | 16:15 |
openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to use cache_data for FnGetRefId (2) https://review.openstack.org/228798 | 16:15 |
openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix to use cache_data for FnGetRefId (1) https://review.openstack.org/226663 | 16:15 |
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marcin_kosa | can anyone has an idea on how to implement auto-healing in heat template? I would like to create a ceilometer alarm based on VMs status or health, so when they go to error state, or become unreachable VM instance should be either rebuilt, or at least autoscaling group should scaleup | 17:09 |
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marcin_kosa | anyone? | 17:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Make OS::Monasca::AlarmDefinition expression property non-updateable https://review.openstack.org/224904 | 17:38 |
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marcin_kosa | guys how can I do something like this: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AutoScaling/latest/DeveloperGuide/healthcheck.html | 18:22 |
marcin_kosa | in Openstack | 18:22 |
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shardy | marcin_kosa: The short answer unfortunately is you can't easily do it without hacks like those described in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124656/ | 19:13 |
shardy | marcin_kosa: it's definitely something we'd like to see improved, but the implementation described in that spec wasn't approved and those working on it appear to have moved on to other things | 19:15 |
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stevebaker | morning | 19:44 |
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shardy | hey stevebaker | 19:47 |
stevebaker | shardy: evening | 19:47 |
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marcin_kosa | shardy: I wish that was not dropped | 20:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Do not pass rich objects in Cloud LoadBalancer delete https://review.openstack.org/216437 | 21:07 |
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daneyon_ | shardy I am trying to have 1 resource group pull either a resource or an output from another resource group. Is that possible? I'm not having any luck with it. | 21:18 |
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sdake | stevebaker or asalkeld can you help daneyon_ with some heat wizardy ? | 21:26 |
sdake | it involves some magic i'm not sure about | 21:26 |
daneyon_ | thx sdake | 21:26 |
sdake | for th emagnum project | 21:26 |
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daneyon_ | I am trying to have 1 resource group pull either a resource or an output from another resource group. Is that possible? | 21:26 |
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sdake | daneyon_ fwiw i think that is possible I just dont know the syntax | 21:27 |
stevebaker | daneyon_, sdake: sure | 21:27 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: it is possible, but it could also be a sign you're doing it wrong ;) | 21:28 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker that is a strong possibility :-) | 21:29 |
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daneyon_ | 1 sec. I am creating a gist of the templates | 21:29 |
stevebaker | ok | 21:29 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker here is the gist: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa swarm.yaml is the parent of master/node.yaml. master/node orchestrate 2 different nova server types and the server's associated config. The param that I'm having an issue with is swarm_master_ip | 21:31 |
daneyon_ | swarm_master_eth0 is created in master.yaml. This resource is needed by node.yaml to configure some of the services running on the node servers. | 21:33 |
daneyon_ | I am using an rg to define the master b/c in the future I would like to have multiple master instances | 21:34 |
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stevebaker | daneyon_: is swarm.yaml the top level template? | 21:35 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: yes | 21:36 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: swarm.yaml outputs gets the swarm_master_ip: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-swarm-yaml-L262-L263 | 21:36 |
daneyon_ | when I try to do the same in the swarm_nodes rg, it fails: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-swarm-yaml-L247 | 21:37 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: and what is the value of the output swarm_master_ip? (exactly) | 21:38 |
daneyon_ | when I do a show-stack I see the IP of the master node created from the master rg: "10.0.0.4" | 21:38 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: or is it a list? ["10.0.0.4"] | 21:39 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker refresh your gist. i added a new file for the stack show | 21:41 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker i think you are correct, I believe it's a list instead of a string. | 21:42 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: yeah, its a single item list, so try swarm_master_ip: {get_attr: [swarm_master, swarm_master_ip, 0]} | 21:42 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker let me try | 21:43 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: When I specify swarm_master_ip: {get_attr: [swarm_master, swarm_master_ip, 0]} in my resource group. I should create a param in node.yaml for swarm_master_ip, correct? | 21:45 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: yes, resource properties map to template parameters | 21:46 |
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daneyon_ | ok, that's what I understood. I just wanted to dbl check with you. | 21:46 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: no luck. Refresh your gist for the latest. I added the engine logs. Same error: Property error: resources[0].properties.swarm_master_ip: Value must be a string | 21:54 |
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stevebaker | daneyon_: another option is to use the attributes attribute. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Heat::ResourceGroup-attr-attributes The "name" of a resource group member is its list index, so... | 21:57 |
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stevebaker | ... try something like swarm_master_ip: {get_attr: [swarm_master, attributes, swarm_master_ip, '0']} | 21:59 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker: let me give it a try | 21:59 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: this is what tripleo does, but generally to get the whole map, not a single value https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/overcloud-without-mergepy.yaml#L1141 | 22:00 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker so swarm_master_ip in master.yaml is an output. Is it possible to reference the resource in the master.yaml directly (swarm_master_eth0, fixed_ips, 0, ip_address) or do I need to reference an output? | 22:02 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: you need to reference an output. template outputs are mapped to resource attributes | 22:03 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker ok | 22:03 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: same problem | 22:06 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: can you update the gist with everything? | 22:07 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker: I simply changed swarm_master_ip: {get_attr: [swarm_master, swarm_master_eth0, fixed_ips, 0, ip_address]} to swarm_master_ip: {get_attr: [swarm_master, attributes, swarm_master_ip, '0']} in swarm.yaml | 22:07 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker I will update the gist. Give me a couple min to do so. In the meantime, I made the simple change ^ and get the same error. | 22:08 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: gist updated | 22:11 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker: I noticed in the stack-show, the output value of swarm_master now shows "1" instead of "IP Address": https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-stack-show-L24 This is b/c I added 0 here: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-swarm-yaml-L264 | 22:14 |
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stevebaker | daneyon_: could you change that output to {get_attr: [swarm_master, attributes, swarm_master_ip]} and update the stack-show? | 22:15 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker: let me give it a try | 22:15 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: same error. gist updated. | 22:23 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: I meant the swarm_master output in swarm.yaml so I could see its value. Change https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-swarm-yaml-L264 to {get_attr: [swarm_master, attributes, swarm_master_ip]} | 22:25 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker: I changed the swarm_master output in swarm.yaml back to how it was (removed the 0) and I now see the correct ip in the stack show: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-stack-show-L24 | 22:25 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: yeah, but I'm intrested in the attributes value | 22:26 |
stevebaker | {get_attr: [swarm_master, attributes, swarm_master_ip]} | 22:26 |
stevebaker | ^ | 22:26 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker: ok, I miss understood you. | 22:26 |
stevebaker | np | 22:27 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: should I leave this as-is: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-swarm-yaml-L249 | 22:28 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: for now, I'm just interested in the value | 22:28 |
daneyon_ | ok | 22:28 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: gist has been updated | 22:32 |
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stevebaker | daneyon_: ok, I think this is a case of over-zealous validation before the value is populated. I would recommend adopting the same pattern as tripleo, which is pass in the whole map instead of a single string. I'll go through the changes required | 22:39 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker: ok | 22:39 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-node-yaml-L30 make this swarm_master_ips: {type: json} | 22:39 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-node-yaml-L110 "$SWARM_MASTER_IP": {get_param: swarm_master_ip, '0'} | 22:40 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-node-yaml-L110 "$SWARM_MASTER_IP": {get_param: swarm_master_ips, '0'} | 22:40 |
stevebaker | https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-swarm-yaml-L249 swarm_master_ips: {get_attr: [swarm_master, attributes, swarm_master_ip]} | 22:41 |
stevebaker | thats it I think | 22:41 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: you can see the same pattern here https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/overcloud-without-mergepy.yaml#L1332 https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/extraconfig/all_nodes/neutron-ml2-cisco-nexus-ucsm.yaml#L7 https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/extraconfig/all_nodes/neutron-ml2-cisco-nexus-ucsm.yaml#L322 | 22:43 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: whoops https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-node-yaml-L110 "$SWARM_MASTER_IP": {get_param: [swarm_master_ips, '0']} | 22:44 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker let me take a look | 22:45 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker: using json instead of a string causes a problem here: https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-master-yaml-L155 | 22:55 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker: str_replace is being used in several places throughout. | 22:55 |
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stevebaker | daneyon_: don't you mean https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-node-yaml-L110 ? master.yaml won't need any changes | 22:57 |
daneyon_ | stevebaker you are correct | 23:01 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: it should be https://gist.github.com/danehans/c8b253f584ec0dd20faa#file-node-yaml-L110 "$SWARM_MASTER_IP": {get_param: [swarm_master_ips, '0']} | 23:03 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker: That did the trick. Thank you!!!! | 23:14 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: sweet, we should document that folk wisdom | 23:14 |
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daneyon_ | stevebaker agreed. where should it be added? | 23:18 |
stevebaker | daneyon_: in the missing chapter on clusters and scaling http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/ | 23:19 |
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