Wednesday, 2015-11-18

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kfox1111I see in the docker file where rdo's openstack-keystone is installed, but I don't see where a wsgi config is put into apache. am I missing something?00:40
kfox1111shoudln't it be doing something with /usr/share/keystone/wsgi-keystone.conf?00:40
kfox1111oh... its coming from the ansible side.00:41
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SamYaplekfox1111: right because the wsgi file controls port bindings and other config things (like ssl if you want ssl termination on the keystone side rather than the LB)00:43
kfox1111yeah. that makes sense.00:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Remove old config-external.sh scripts for magnum  https://review.openstack.org/24652300:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Drop root for Magnum  https://review.openstack.org/24652900:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Improve README with list of supported projects and components  https://review.openstack.org/24660500:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Get kolla path from settings when provisioning box  https://review.openstack.org/24467001:05
SamYaplemandre: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244670/01:05
SamYaplei left a comment on there right after you approved it it seems01:06
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mandreyeah SamYaple, you're right01:12
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mandrei was about to submit a patch upon it to make argument handling a bit more obvious, i'll fix it at the same time01:12
SamYapleits not a big thing01:17
SamYaplethanks for handling it01:17
openstackgerritAlicja Kwasniewska proposed openstack/kolla: Fixed logging error messages from keystone to syslog. Rsyslog adapted to filter keystone error log messages.  https://review.openstack.org/24670301:23
openstackgerritMartin André proposed openstack/kolla: Make vagrant bootstrap scripts args more obvious  https://review.openstack.org/24670401:26
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asalkelddoes anyone know why we pin docker to 1.8.2?, my docker on mesos-slave is newer than the one installed by kolla(vagrant) and so nothing will work02:00
rhalliseyakscram, I know lately 1.9 denies mounting in /etc because of docker-selinux I think02:00
asalkeldjust figuring out if it's ansible related - maybe I can upgrade my docker without a problem, or rebuild the mesos docker images02:01
rhalliseyit probably also it02:01
rhalliseyis02:01
rhalliseyI don't recall the issue02:01
rhalliseyI don't think that was why we originally pinned it02:01
asalkeldrhallisey: ok, so I'll try upgrading docker and see what happens :-O02:01
rhalliseybut more of an issue i've had lately with 1.902:02
rhalliseyasalkeld, good luck!02:02
asalkeldthx02:02
SamYapleasalkeld: its ansible related02:02
asalkeldSamYaple: thanks02:03
SamYapleasalkeld: but ansible on hte deploy host related, not the kolla_ansible container02:03
SamYapleso youre good to do docker whatever version with mesos02:03
openstackgerritMartin André proposed openstack/kolla: Make vagrant bootstrap scripts args more obvious  https://review.openstack.org/24670402:03
asalkeldcool, i'll upgrade then02:03
SamYapleI actually use docker 1.9 and docker-dev with my testing and it works fine02:04
SamYaplebut i hacked on the ansible docker module to make that work02:04
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asalkeldk02:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fix namespace regression for neutron  https://review.openstack.org/24476802:14
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openstackgerritAlicja Kwasniewska proposed openstack/kolla: Fixed log error messages from keystone to syslog.  https://review.openstack.org/24670302:26
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sdakeevening02:54
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rhalliseyquiet tis time of night02:57
kjellyhi sdake, do you have any suggestion reference about Immutable Infrastructure? I read your blog already.03:02
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openstackgerritMartin André proposed openstack/kolla: Remove "../../etc/kolla" from synced folders in Vagrant  https://review.openstack.org/24502203:20
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asalkeldroot root 100G Nov 17 22:34 /var/lib/docker/devicemapper/devicemapper/data03:55
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asalkeldthat grows ^03:55
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asalkeldhttps://github.com/docker/docker/issues/978603:59
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Chandrahi , when i am trying to push images i am getting error as below. if someone knows how to resolve the issue , please help05:05
Chandrarequests.packages.urllib3.exceptions.ReadTimeoutError: UnixHTTPConnectionPool(host='localhost', port=None): Read timed out05:05
Chandrai am using command " kolla-build --base ubuntu --type source --registry 192.168.1.50:4000 --push05:06
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nihiliferasalkeld: o/05:41
asalkeldhi05:42
nihiliferasalkeld: what kind of filesystems you're using in docker?05:42
nihiliferit's the issue of devicemapper, aufs, btrfs, overlayfs?05:42
asalkeldnihilifer: devicemapper, but i think that it is solved by running yum update in the vagrant bootstrap.sh05:43
Chandrai am sure about that. where i can check those ?05:43
Chandrabase os is ubuntu05:43
nihiliferhey Chandra, well, about your issue05:44
nihiliferChandra: does it error provide any bigger traceback?05:44
nihiliferChandra: if yes, please share it on paste.openstack.org :)05:44
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nihiliferasalkeld: we discussed kazoo with SamYaple, probably today at night in Australian time ;)05:54
nihiliferasalkeld: SamYaple says that kazoo is not the only thing which may conflict between pip and packages05:54
nihiliferhe mentioned about ceph-common which has some python dependencies, which are overriden later by pip05:54
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nihiliferso it looks like we have to use virtualenvs05:57
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asalkeldok nihilifer05:58
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openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Source installation in virtualenv  https://review.openstack.org/24676206:24
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openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Source installation in virtualenv  https://review.openstack.org/24676206:55
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openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Source installation in virtualenv  https://review.openstack.org/24676208:19
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openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Source installation in virtualenv  https://review.openstack.org/24676209:06
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asalkeldnihilifer: btw we need jinja2 (as well as kazoo)09:38
nihiliferasalkeld: yes, we need. didn't i add it to your patch in kolla-mesos?09:39
nihiliferhere it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242912/13/requirements.txt09:40
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nihiliferaww, ok, you mean jinja2 in kolla dockerfiles...09:46
nihiliferomg, i have to get a next coffe09:46
asalkeldyip in the images09:49
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openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Source installation in virtualenv  https://review.openstack.org/24676210:44
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openstackgerritPaul Bourke proposed openstack/kolla: Add missing usermod for magnum  https://review.openstack.org/24685811:01
openstackgerritPaul Bourke proposed openstack/kolla: Fix missing policy.json in Magnum  https://review.openstack.org/24652211:03
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openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Source installation in virtualenv  https://review.openstack.org/24676211:56
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openstackgerritPaul Bourke proposed openstack/kolla: Fix missing policy.json in Magnum  https://review.openstack.org/24652212:11
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ReddyHi i am getting error while running "kolla-build --base ubuntu --type source --registry 192.168.1.50:4000 --push"12:15
Reddyhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/479243/12:15
nihiliferhey Reddy12:16
nihiliferwhat distro you're running on host?12:16
nihiliferand do you run kolla from master branch?12:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Make vagrant bootstrap scripts args more obvious  https://review.openstack.org/24670412:16
Reddyubuntu12:17
Reddyyes i am using master branch only .12:18
Reddyis this error related to docker ??12:18
Reddyi dint faced any issue when i tried for AIO .12:19
nihiliferok. one more question before I'll file a bug about this ;) could you please check whether the docker registry is running correctly? "netstat -tnlp | grep 4000", "docker ps | grep registry" etc.?12:19
nihiliferit seems to be an issue of urllib3, a part of standard python library12:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fixed log error messages from keystone to syslog.  https://review.openstack.org/24670312:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Remove "../../etc/kolla" from synced folders in Vagrant  https://review.openstack.org/24502212:19
nihiliferso the problem is with connecting to registry on the "lower level"12:19
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Reddyroot@ubuntu1:~/kolla# docker ps | grep registry12:21
Reddy693991941b55        registry:2          "/bin/registry /etc/d"   2 hours ago         Up 2 hours          0.0.0.0:4000->5000/tcp   registry12:21
Reddy netstat -tnlp | grep 400012:22
Reddytcp6       0      0 :::4000                 :::*                    LISTEN      1799/docker-proxy12:22
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Reddynihilifer : do we have any work around to push the images to local registry ??12:25
nihiliferok, so the last thing from me to try ;) could you please try to push any image explicitly to this registry? from some host which is not running registry. you can try for example to do "docker pull wordpress", then "docker tag $(docker images | awk '/wordpress/{print $1;}') 192.168.1.50:4000/wordpress"12:25
nihiliferand finally "docker push 192.168.1.50:4000/wordpress"12:25
nihiliferi'll think about possible workarouds after trying this one. it's important whether you are able to push images to the registry at all12:26
nihiliferto check whether it's issue of kolla or something wrong with registry configuration12:27
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Reddysure i will try and will post the results12:28
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Source installation in virtualenv  https://review.openstack.org/24676212:33
pbourkeive seen that error before12:33
pbourkeno workaround currently other than running again12:33
Reddypbourke : i had tried around 6 to 7 times . every time i cleaned all images and run as fresh setup . but no luck12:35
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Reddy@nihilifer : http://paste.openstack.org/show/479244/12:48
Reddyeverything went fine for wordpress12:48
nihiliferReddy: so something is wrong with kolla or libraries (urllib3, docker-py)12:49
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nihiliferi'll file a bug about this12:50
nihiliferunless you want to do this ;)12:50
Reddyok Thanks nihilifer . is there any work around ?12:50
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nihiliferfor now i have no idea12:50
nihiliferme or someone else will try to reproduce and fix this12:51
nihilifermaybe we'll able to do this on multinode ubuntu12:51
Reddyyes currently i am trying multi node deployment.12:52
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SamYaplemonring13:46
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openstackgerritMartin André proposed openstack/kolla: Factor out definition of nodes in Vagrantfile  https://review.openstack.org/24693013:47
openstackgerritMartin André proposed openstack/kolla: Allow to customize vagrant deployment  https://review.openstack.org/24693113:47
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inc0hey there13:51
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SamYapleim here!13:57
inc0Sam, any chances you could add at least a bit of docs to this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242373/113:59
SamYaplesure13:59
inc0change seems cool, but I'm kinda afraid of +2 it as I don't understand what the hell is happening there;)14:00
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SamYapleinc0: thats a backport14:00
SamYapleit doesnt change behavoiur14:01
SamYaplethere are no docs yet14:01
inc0yeah I know, ok +2 it as it's alreadt intree14:01
inc0but...please?14:01
SamYaplenope14:01
SamYaplenot going to happen for liberty anywa14:01
inc0for the betterment of future generations14:01
inc0docs wont happen for liberty?14:01
SamYapleright but those changes arent merging until after the 1.0.1 tag14:01
SamYaplewe dont do docs for anything but master14:01
SamYaplewe dont backport them14:02
inc0ok, I have no issues with that14:02
inc0so I should not +2+W this one?14:02
inc0when do we tag 1.0.1 anyway?14:02
SamYapleyou cant, it wont merge until i unblock the base patch14:03
inc0ah ok14:03
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SamYapleyou can*, but it wont merge14:03
inc0so I'll go ahead and give +W on this and when you unblock base it will come in automatically14:03
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SamYapleidk sdake14:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fix missing policy.json in Magnum  https://review.openstack.org/24652214:13
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inc0sdake gave +2 to it so I guess..14:16
SamYapleinc0: no sdake is the guy to talk to about 1.0.114:17
SamYaplehe is waiting on something idk wat14:17
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inc0well, it won't merge anyway, so I can always revoke my review, I'll ask him around once he wakes up14:17
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inc0now I'll have whole day to interact with US \o/14:18
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pbourkeSamYaple: how would you feel about converting kolla-build.conf to yaml14:18
stvnoyesSamYaple: good morning. you mentioned something about work underway for monitoring in mitaka. Is there a blueprint  for that? I'd like to take a look. thanks.14:18
inc0pbourke, for me it would be good change, but with "keep backward compatibility" in mind, I would be careful14:20
pbourkeinc0: yeah Im not sure for build it matters as much though14:20
inc0aestethics is not reason enough for me to break backward compatibility14:20
SamYaplestvnoyes: inc0 ^^14:20
SamYaplestvnoyes: inc0 was working on it and had discussed it. is ther ea blueprint inc0 ?14:21
pbourkeits not about aesthetics, its to allow specifying multiple sources for plugins14:21
inc0you mean centralized logging or sanity checks?14:21
SamYaplepbourke: I would say I dont care, except thats not backwards compatible and then makes it a bit of a pain for upgrades14:21
inc0https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/central-logging-service there is this one14:21
pbourkeit depends if people can think of another way to specify plugins for the build14:22
SamYapleinc0: yea all of the stuff we have that culminates in "monitoring", it should be in several blueprints14:22
pbourkeini is not so flexible that way14:22
inc0we were talking about having monitoring tools like zabbix in container14:22
inc0there is no bp for that, but I'd be super happy to have that stuff integrated14:22
openstackgerritPaul Bourke proposed openstack/kolla: [Do not merge] Reformat kolla-build.conf to YAML  https://review.openstack.org/24694214:24
SamYaplepbourke: yea im neutral on that change. ill wait for others to review and cast an opinion14:25
pbourkeyeah just wanted an example up to help discussion14:25
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inc0well, don't get me wrong, it's good thing to do14:31
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inc0just..peoples configs will stop working14:32
inc0that's my only issue14:32
inc0that's only build.conf so I don't think it's super critical14:32
inc0but still...14:32
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pbourkeSamYaple: want to talk about where you're at with this ansible gate patch?14:34
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SamYapleinc0: thats where im at14:35
SamYaplepbourke: yea14:35
SamYapleits ready but stupid centos14:35
SamYaplei need someone with centos knowlege14:36
SamYaplepbourke: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244538/14:38
SamYaplelet me rebase14:38
pbourkewhats the centos problem14:39
SamYaplebut whats happening is when centos tries to connect to itself with an ssh keep iwth ansible.... it hangs14:39
SamYapleno rythme or reason14:39
SamYaplei cant figure it out14:39
SamYaplei can run ssh commands, but with ansbile it doesnt work14:39
SamYaplewell ansible+sudo14:39
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pbourkecan you not just use a local connection?14:42
openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Convert gate to Ansible setup  https://review.openstack.org/24453814:42
SamYaplepbourke: i can, but not on multinode14:42
ashestakovHi. Can anyone point me to any docs how to get Ironic works with Kolla?14:42
SamYapleim trying to unify the single and multinode gates14:43
SamYapleashestakov: Ironic is in a tech preview state14:43
pbourkeashestakov: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/ironic-guide.html14:43
pbourkethere's not much there unfortunately14:43
ashestakovshould it works at all now?14:43
inc0ashestakov, we still experience lots of issues unfortunately14:44
SamYaplepbourke: here are the lines in question14:44
SamYaple2015-11-13 13:01:19.151 | + ansible-playbook -i /tmp/kolla/raw_inventory -edocker_dev=vdb tests/setup_nodes.yml14:44
SamYaple2015-11-13 14:00:48.885 | Build timed out (after 60 minutes). Marking the build as failed.14:44
SamYaplehttp://logs.openstack.org/38/244538/6/check/gate-kolla-dsvm-deploy-centos-binary/9559b87/console.html.gz#_2015-11-13_13_01_19_15114:44
SamYapleit just hangs no idea why14:44
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pbourketack on -vvv ?14:46
SamYapleits in the history14:46
SamYapleit doesnt help14:46
SamYapleso the whole ansible output actually hangs14:46
SamYapleits really wierd14:46
inc0have you tried running it on centos locally?14:48
inc0try to deploy similar vm somewhere14:48
SamYaplei dont run centos14:48
inc0right, that's why VMs are so useful;)14:48
SamYapleit works anywhere ive tested it14:48
SamYaplei dont run centos14:49
SamYapleoops repeat14:49
SamYaplepbourke: https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-kolla-dsvm-deploy-centos-binary/11/console14:52
SamYapleit will hang there for 60 minutes now14:52
SamYapleno new output14:52
SamYaplewhats really weird is the ansible command runs once before14:57
ashestakovanyone works with ironic issues currently? maybe i can help?14:57
SamYaplethis has got to be a sudo thing14:57
SamYapleashestakov: i dont think anyone is focused on irnoic at the moment. you are welcome to take the reigns14:57
SamYaplewe will definetely help you out14:58
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pbourkeSamYaple: do you need sudo -H or something15:01
SamYapleno15:02
SamYapleit hangs on something in the setup_RedHat.sh script, but i dont know why15:02
SamYaplei also dont know why ansible doesnt buffer its output tothe gate15:02
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ReddyHi if someone is aware of this error please help me .  http://paste.openstack.org/show/479243/15:09
Reddyi was stuck at pushing images to local registry for multi node. command used is "kolla-build --base ubuntu --type source --registry 192.168.1.100:4000 --push15:10
Reddyand my base os is ubuntu15:10
openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: DO NOT MERGE  https://review.openstack.org/24697915:12
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SamYaple http://paste.openstack.org/show/479243/15:13
SamYapleReddy: looks like your registry is not up/reachable15:13
SamYaplecan you push manually?15:13
SamYaple`docker push <image>`15:13
Reddyhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/479244/15:13
SamYapleReddy: do you have an insecure registry (no ssl)? if so have you configured the daemon properly15:14
Reddyi tested that also . my register is running and i was able to push images manually15:15
SamYaplehttps://github.com/alunduil/etest/issues/1615:16
Reddyyes . DOCKER_OPTS="--dns 8.8.8.8 --dns 8.8.4.4 --insecure-registry 192.168.1.100:4000"15:16
SamYaplelooks like a similiar (exaclty the same) issue15:16
ReddySamYaple : what daemon you are referring . could you please help me in knowing where i can set it ?15:17
SamYapleReddy: no looks like you set it correctly15:18
SamYaplesee the github link i pasted above15:18
SamYaplethey comment it is an overloaded daemon15:18
SamYapleim not sure15:18
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SamYaplewe could back in a push retry15:19
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Reddyi tried around 7 to 8 times by cleaning it and running the same command . every time it gives me same result15:20
Reddyis it something related to my config ? if i upgrade my python to version 3 , will it helps me ? do we have any dependence of pyhton version ?15:21
SamYapleReddy: that link i posted was talking about your docker daemon, not the registry15:23
SamYapleso you could try to reduce the build threads15:23
SamYaplethat might help15:23
SamYapledrop it to 1 build thread15:23
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Reddyok . Thanks SamYaple i will give a try15:23
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nihiliferReddy: i probably have another idea15:35
Reddyyes nihilifer . please tell me15:35
nihiliferReddy: as far as i see, all images were built successfully and problem is only with push to registry15:35
nihiliferand at the same time you were able to push manually wordpress image15:36
nihilifermaybe you should try to push kolla images by hand15:36
Reddyok . you want me to push each image manually ?15:36
nihiliferyes15:36
nihilifersomething like15:36
Reddyok its good idea . let me try15:36
SamYapleoh i thought that was what you tried15:36
SamYapleyea if the daemon is just overloaded then that would work15:37
nihiliferReddy: you probably will need to tag all these images15:37
SamYapleReddy: `docker images | awk '/kolla/ {print $1}' | xargs -n1 docker push`15:37
SamYaplethat would push all images with 'kolla' in the name15:38
nihiliferah, ok, no need to tag images manually, forget my last message ;)15:38
Reddyok. while pulling should i need to mention tag in global.yml file ?15:40
Reddyor just i need to follow normal steps to deploy ?15:40
Reddyok got it . i hope its working . Thanks for help SamYaple and nihilifer15:45
Reddy:-)15:45
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SamYaplenihilifer: no you were correct. that one liner doesnt pull in the tag so it just assumes latest15:50
SamYaple`docker images | awk '/kolla/ {print $1 ":" $2}' | xargs -n1 docker push`15:51
SamYaplethat would reassemble the tag15:51
openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: DO NOT MERGE  https://review.openstack.org/24699715:55
sdakemorning15:59
SamYaplemonring15:59
sdakehey sam15:59
sdakenoticed there were some comments on my oslo log patch15:59
sdakei'll fix those up15:59
sdakei was totally out yesterday with some kind of stomach bug15:59
SamYapleyea i noticed you were just *poo*16:00
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sdakeyo folks team meeting16:29
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SamYaplesdake: you havent started it16:30
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SamYaplepbourke: meeting16:33
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SamYaplenvm :)16:33
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britthouserAre we in openstack-meetings-4 ?16:37
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SamYaplebritthouser: yes16:41
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inc0hey guys, meeting16:43
inc0is right now?16:43
SamYapleinc0: yup were in it16:44
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openstackgerritPaul Bourke proposed openstack/kolla: [Do not merge] Reformat kolla-build.conf to YAML  https://review.openstack.org/24694216:51
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openstackgerritPaul Bourke proposed openstack/kolla: [Do not merge] Reformat kolla-build.conf to YAML  https://review.openstack.org/24694216:57
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SamYaplefirst17:29
sdakeyo dudes and dudettes17:29
rhalliseyyo yo17:29
inc0ok, I'm going back to cluster meetings17:29
inc0first days in new work...duh17:29
rhalliseyinc0, how have you not had BBQ yet17:29
SamYaplerhallisey: he said he ate a meal yesterday17:30
SamYaplei dont think he plans on eating again17:30
SamYaplebig meal17:30
SamYaple..... for him17:30
SamYaplei call it tuesday17:30
rhallisey:)17:30
inc0yesterday I went to a shrimp place and took one meal for me and my wife17:30
inc0it was first time we've eaten whole meal since we're here17:30
rhalliseyinc0, nice. That's always fun17:31
inc0and I was still stuffed17:31
inc0portions in TX are...well17:31
SamYapleeverythings bigger in tx17:31
inc0yup17:31
inc0yesterday I saw a car carrying a house17:31
sdakehaha inc017:31
rhalliseyinc0, go to a deli in NYC you get a cheesecake slice that can feed a family17:31
inc0yeah, I'll probably visit NYC at some point of me being in US17:32
sdakenihilifer your in kolla-drivers now17:32
inc0bbl17:32
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nihilifersdake: thx17:34
salv-orlandohi, I have spent some time trying kolla - deploying with baremetal instructions (even if I'm actually doing that in a VM). Things were good expect for the rabbitmq container which kept restart without providing any info in logs17:40
salv-orlandoanyone has hints about that?17:40
rhalliseydocker logs rabbitmq gave you nothing?17:41
salv-orlandolast line says that it's starting rabbitmq-server and then nothing more17:41
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rhalliseyif you restart it `docker restart rabbitmq` is it actually up for a few seconds or does it immediately go to restarting17:42
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salv-orlandorhallisey: snippet from docker logs -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/479311/17:43
salv-orlandoit just keeps restarting17:43
salv-orlandoI was expecting some error message, it looks like rabbitmq-server is segfaulting17:44
rhalliseythe error should be in the log in the container, the problem is getting to it17:44
rhalliseysometimes when you restart containers they will be briefly active so you can exec into them and snatch the logs17:45
rhallisey`docker restart rabbitmq` then `docker exec -it rabbitmq cat /var/log/rabbitmq.log`17:45
rhalliseygiven those logs I think the container is up for like 2 seconds then restarts a few times and fails17:46
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salv-orlandorhallisey: yes I have tried to quickly grasp something with docker restart rabbitmq && docker exec rabbitmq cat /var/log/rabbitmq.log but without luck17:48
rhalliseydarn17:49
rhalliseyok other option is to `docker exec -it rabbitmq /bin/bash` and run the kolla commands by hand17:50
salv-orlandoI thought it might be because of apparmor still active (shot in the dark), but while re-deploying I hit another issue with docker, as it lists containers but is unable to operate on it - it says "no such file or directory"17:50
salv-orlandorhallisey: right, but to do so I'd need a running rabbitmq container17:50
rhalliseyI mean no exec17:50
rhalliseynot*17:50
rhalliseyok other option is to `docker run -it rabbitmq /bin/bash` and run the kolla commands by hand17:51
rhalliseydocker run -it rabbitmq /bin/bash17:51
rhalliseykolla scripts are in /usr/local/bin17:51
salv-orlandorhallisey: ah yes, that makes sense. Unfortunately docker is now messing up with me as it refuses to run the container. I'm trying to rebuild the whole thing now.17:51
rhalliseywait why wont it run it?17:52
rhalliseydocker run -it <rabbitmq_image> /bin/bash17:52
rhalliseygrab that image from docker images17:52
salv-orlando"Docker API Error: Cannot start container f1ab652dc946678c998a887b434d8879c2c87d5ad35bab37b722de0fdc1d59c2: [8] System error: no such file or directory"17:52
salv-orlandorhallisey: yeah pulling the image again17:53
rhalliseywait is there no /bin/bash?  Why did you get that error..17:53
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sdakerhallisey that happens with the lvm driver and docker older versions18:03
sdakesalv-orlando which version o docker are yo u using18:03
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rhalliseysdake, oh I didn't know that18:04
sdakesalv-orlando i'd recommend if yur buildling to use the btrfs graph driver or deploying to use the oerlayfs driver18:04
salv-orlandothanks sdake. I upgraded kernel to 3.19 to avoid the issue with aufs but if you reckon is better I can use btrfs18:05
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openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Convert gate to Ansible setup  https://review.openstack.org/24453820:20
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24718321:24
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inc0hey21:31
inc0is latest version of docker still busted?21:31
Slowerinc0!!21:31
inc0hey Slower :) nice to meet you in any managable time21:32
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Slowerinc0: ya you too!21:33
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sdakedave-mccowan meet samyaple :)21:45
sdakeSamYaple dave-mccowan is the cat who has some ideas about TLS certification with kolla21:45
sdakei think i expressed the idea that you suggested we dont need self signed certs21:45
sdakeand he asked "and the user should always supply them?"21:45
dave-mccowanhi SamYaple sdake21:45
sdakeand then I go "damn I have no idea what I'm talking about"21:46
sdakeso would you two folks mind having a discussion  - or put the design in the etherpad for example :)21:46
sdakeor open a blueprint and we c an put in the discussion phase21:46
sdakeand do things the normal openstack way? :)21:46
SamYaplehello dave-mccowan21:47
dave-mccowani'll open a blueprint soon.21:47
sdakei'd be happy to open it if you like dave-mccowan21:47
sdakeand c&p your design into an etherpad on etherpad.openstack.org21:48
SamYapleso im not quite sure what was said, but I don't see why Kolla should be generating the certs. Kolla should just be a consumer of user provider certs like basically every other serivce21:48
SamYapleim not sure were are on the same page though with the 3rd party communnication21:48
sdakeya, telephoen sucks21:49
dave-mccowanso, i'm a kolla n00b, so let me know if i get this part wrong....21:49
sdakei'm sorry guys, i struggle to communicate opposing ideas ;)21:49
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sdakedave-mccowan its a-ok we are rfrom the federal government an we are here to help :)21:50
dave-mccowani think when kolla stands up a cloud it configures HAProxy as a front end to the API end point.  when it does this now, there is no TLS.  am i correct on this?21:50
SamYapledave-mccowan: correct, we do not have ssl/tls support anywhere in kolla yet21:50
SamYaplethe plan was to do it firstly at the haproxy endpoint and then later internally21:51
dave-mccowanso, i'm proposing, optionally, turning on the TLS proxy feature of HAProxy with a minimal config option and customized options.21:51
SamYapleyes this is the plan21:52
SamYaplehaproxy does ssl offloading21:52
dave-mccowanFor HAProxy to be a TLS proxy it needs a server certificate.21:52
SamYaplewith 1.5+ (and we have that)21:52
SamYapleyes im with you21:52
sdakei think the question was whether or not kolla should be in the business of generating the certificates21:53
dave-mccowana good deployment will have a certificate signed by an authority.  a quick-and-dirty implementation would be happy with a self-signed certificate.21:53
SamYapledave-mccowan: agreed21:53
dave-mccowanIt's about 4 commands to generate one... i think it would be a nice feature for Kolla to do that on demand, but suppose we could document it and have a user manually do it.21:54
SamYapledave-mccowan: yea so ansible doesnt provide interaction like that21:54
SamYapleso if you want a script in the tools/* directory im 100% ok with that21:54
SamYaplebut to bake it into the playbooks isnt doable21:55
SamYaplemy thoughts on this inteface was 'if you want ssl, provide a pem/cert+key in /etc/kolla/certs/'21:55
SamYaplethat way it doesnt matter if you self-sign or cert-authority sign it21:56
SamYapleif those files exist there, it doesnt matter how they were made21:56
SamYaplewith that said we could have a small script to genereate a quick self-signed cert21:56
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dave-mccowanwhat do you mean by "to bake it into the playbooks isnt doable" ?21:57
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SamYapledave-mccowan: to geenrate a cert yo uneed to provide some imformation. openssl will promt you for this or you can supply it on the command line21:58
SamYaplewe would have to turn all those questions into variables21:58
SamYaplewe as a general practice dont do that21:58
dave-mccowanwhich questions?  the stuff for the distinguished name?21:59
SamYapleyea stuff like that22:01
SamYaplesince the only time this would be useful would be self-signed, a small script is fine22:02
SamYaplegenerating certs is a rare thing22:02
dave-mccowani was thinking, since the auto-gen cert is meant to be quick and dirty, we could come up with smart defaults for everything.  really the auto-gen is for developers who just want it to work quickly.  user provided certs are for operators who are really deploying.22:03
sdakei dont see how a script to generate for the developer workflow isn't the most optimal choice22:04
dave-mccowannot a big difference of opinion between us... there's a required step, either provide it out of band or in band.  until i get smarter on kolla, my opinion doesn't count for much yet. :-)22:04
sdakesince its not a normal flow - probblly shouldn't be a normal part of the playbooks22:04
sdakedave-mccowan what is the advantage of providing in-band?  one less step?22:07
sdakeSamYaple what is the disadvantage to porviding in-band?  more complexixty22:09
sdake?22:09
dave-mccowanyep.  my thought was it is a significant step for those afraid of openssl, but hiding it all inside a tools/ script gets most of the way there.  i had assumed that turn-key was goal.22:09
sdakei htink a turn key script can get the job done without complexity introduction into kolla proper22:10
sdakethen everyone is happy22:10
SamYapledave-mccowan: i think the uniform step here is to have it out-of-band for generation22:12
SamYaplethat way it doesnt matter if you have a self-sigend cert or a REAL cert22:12
dave-mccowanis there a relationship between kolla and the openstack-ansible project?22:12
sdakeSamYaple but provide a script to do the job you mean?22:13
SamYapledave-mccowan: not directly22:13
SamYapledave-mccowan: i just left RAX22:13
SamYaplesdake: yes22:13
sdakethe relationship is we are both openstack projects ;)22:13
SamYaplewe share a bit of knowlege from time to time22:13
sdakeya we get along22:13
dave-mccowanhere's how they do certs in ansible:22:14
dave-mccowanhttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/playbooks/roles/haproxy_server/tasks/haproxy_ssl_configuration.yml22:14
sdakewell i wouldnt look to OSAD as the go-to reference architecture for openstack deployment via ansible dave-mccowan  :)22:17
dave-mccowanjust an example of how create a self-signed cert in ansible22:18
dave-mccowanthey're able to create self signed certs in less than 25 lines of ansible using all default values.  so it's a pretty small amount of complexity that we're proposing to move to a separate script.22:24
SamYapledave-mccowan: just fyi, they are way overbloated with ansible code22:25
SamYaplethats the kind of bloat we dont want22:25
SamYaplewe dont want those extra variables22:25
SamYapleand thier haproxy implementation is not for production (as they say)22:25
SamYaplesdake: i WOULD look to OSA as openstack deployment via ansible. they are the only game in town. I wouldn't look to them for openstack deployment in containers22:26
SamYaplewe use ansible to orchestrate contaienrs. they use ansbiel to install openstack (optionally in containers)22:27
sdakethanks SamYaple  - pointing out the obvious ;)22:27
dave-mccowann00b question: help me understand what you mean by avoiding variables.22:28
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SamYapledave-mccowan: we dont like the user to interact with variables (the ones you specify them in globals.yml) and we avoid it as much as possible22:29
SamYaplewe document most/all the variables the average user should change22:29
SamYapleif we have to add to those list of variables the file sizes grow22:29
SamYaplewe don't embrace the ansible spirit is the point. We embrace the 'easy to use, operate, and understand' spirit22:30
SamYaplealso DRY22:30
dave-mccowanFor TLS support, we need to add filenames for the PEM and KEY files.  those are OK, right?22:30
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SamYapleCRT + KEY, or PEM22:30
SamYaplePEM is crert + key22:31
sdakefile targets are all over the ansible pllaoybooks so i'd say yes dave-mccowan22:31
sdakewe hae hundreds of file targets :)22:32
SamYapledave-mccowan: since HAproxy only deals with PEM, I think we may be able to get away with PEM only, we can always split it if needed22:32
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SamYaplebut for the initial implemntation PEM only would be fine. then its single file in /etc/kolla/22:32
dave-mccowanalright... i guess i'm convinced.  "one way to do something" probably adds to simplicity more than "we can hack something unsecure with no effort on your part"22:33
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sdakedave-mccowan could you reword that i dont understand what you mean22:37
SamYaplesdake: he says 'i agree with samyaple'22:37
SamYaplewhich is the same as 'samyaple wont shut up, i give up'22:37
SamYapleat least thats what my wife tells me22:37
sdakeits not the same22:38
sdakemaybe in your mind ;)22:38
SamYaplewhats the end result?22:38
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dave-mccowanOne Way To Do Something: If a user want to use TLS, they have to provide a certificate.  (we'll help you make one if want, look in /tools for help)22:38
SamYapleends means and justifying, how do they work22:38
sdakedave-mccowan cool i like that approach too22:39
sdakeSamYaple see that wasn't dave givign up, that was dave using rationale thinking processses to come ot a logical concllusion :)22:39
dave-mccowanNo Effort Turn Key :  You want to do TLS? no problem. You can provide a Cert.  Too hard?  No worries, we can whip up something for you.22:39
dave-mccowanNo Effort Turn Key is easy: no input necessary... but it adds complexity, because now there are two ways.22:40
SamYaplesdake: i dont actually want people to give up... it was just a joke...22:41
sdakein both cases there are two ways, one just has one input the other has two22:41
dave-mccowani've done it that way before with embedded systems... it's not like a router can refuse to boot if a cert is not provided... the fallback is to create a self-signed certificate.22:41
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sdakeSamYaple sometimes I'm not so sure! :)22:41
SamYaplesdake: no there is one way. user provides cert22:41
SamYaplehow the user gets that cert is up to the user22:41
sdakeright the user buys a cert or creates a self signed one (two inputs)22:42
SamYapleyup22:42
sdakevs autogeneration (one input)22:42
SamYaplesdake: i just want logical back and forth and people dont want to do that22:42
sdakei'm pretty sure i do that most of the time with you SamYaple22:43
SamYapleyou do which is why we only kinda hate eachother sometimes22:43
sdakehow do yo uthink I get you to do what I want? :)22:43
sdakei have never hated you sam22:43
SamYaplesays the guy that is now running a yaodu clone22:43
sdakefrustrated - yes22:43
dave-mccowani'm happy to have the discussion and debate.22:43
SamYaplesdake: yea thats a better word, im a man of simple vocab^H^H^H^H^H words22:44
dave-mccowanwhat's the plan for implementing?  it sounds like this has already been planned.  SamYaple have you already been planning on coding this?22:44
SamYapledave-mccowan: you are welcome to it22:45
SamYaplei can do it too22:45
sdakenobody has planned anything yet22:45
SamYapleif its a requirement i can do it in the next few hours22:45
sdakeexcept just today we had a w ondderful palnning session just now :)22:45
SamYapleright now im just going down a priority list22:45
dave-mccowani have some internal work to do for the next week or so.  if the work item is still available after thanksgiving, i'll pick it up.  probably not in time for mitaka-1, so mitaka-2 i guess.22:47
SamYaplesdake, do we want to backport ssl?22:48
SamYaplepeople are going t ask for that..22:48
dave-mccowanbackport ssl?22:48
dave-mccowanah... copy this stuff to liberty.22:49
SamYapleyea22:49
SamYapleif its non-canging of exist behaviour22:49
SamYaplewhich i think it will be22:49
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sdake_SamYaple yes since it doesn't break any kind of compatability i see zero harm in  backport23:22
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