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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247183 | 00:54 |
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| SamYaple | asalkeld: i will submit a patch to get kolla-mesos going to the global req proposal bot if yo uwould like | 01:02 |
| SamYaple | i just idd it for kolla so im aware of what needs to be done on project-config and requiremetns repo | 01:02 |
| SamYaple | also if you would like any gate help, I am at your disposal. setting up or implementing | 01:04 |
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| asalkeld | SamYaple: ok, thanks | 01:09 |
| asalkeld | just debugging my container script atm | 01:10 |
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| SamYaple | so asalkeld, thoughts on mesos | 01:14 |
| SamYaple | for ansible to limit hosts the playbook runs on we have a few options, --limit being a big one | 01:14 |
| SamYaple | anything similar for mesos? | 01:14 |
| SamYaple | or is it a 'restart all nova-api containers' | 01:15 |
| asalkeld | it has rolling upgrades | 01:15 |
| asalkeld | https://mesosphere.github.io/marathon/docs/deployment-design-doc.html | 01:15 |
| SamYaple | but is there a way to target just a few? like only ones in a certain zone (thinking datacenter rack a/b, power a/b, zone/ab type situation) | 01:17 |
| SamYaple | that seems like a rolling over all of them upgrade | 01:17 |
| SamYaple | it was brought up in the api spec and i wasnt sure mesos could do it (i know ansible can) | 01:17 |
| asalkeld | SamYaple: let me have a look | 01:17 |
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| asalkeld | SamYaple: we *may* be able to use constraints for that, but not sure - https://mesosphere.github.io/marathon/docs/constraints.html | 01:24 |
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| asalkeld | that is part of the app definition, not a part of the "action". so we may have to structure the "app" according to how we want to upgrade it. | 01:26 |
| asalkeld | say make an app group with different zone/what ever so you could upgrade them bit by bit | 01:27 |
| asalkeld | so seems not as flexible | 01:27 |
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| asalkeld | SamYaple: i am struggling to see how you could make a REST api that exposes the power of very different deployment systems | 01:42 |
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| asalkeld | it's going to end up being simplistic and users are going to quickly drop down to the native tooling IMHO | 01:43 |
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| asalkeld | SamYaple: when ansible runs this https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/ansible/roles/mariadb/tasks/config.yml | 01:58 |
| asalkeld | it's as root? | 01:58 |
| asalkeld | i need to now do that in the container as user mysql :-( | 01:59 |
| asalkeld | not sure how this works now: https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/base/set_configs.py#L103 | 02:00 |
| asalkeld | (chown in set_configs) | 02:00 |
| asalkeld | maybe we can make /etc/<service>/ writable by the kolla group | 02:04 |
| asalkeld | ok i am going to abuse "include_footer" | 02:06 |
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| asalkeld | interesting, magnum is also adding support for mesos/marathon | 04:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Motohiro/Yuanying Otsuka proposed openstack/kolla: Fix skipping `bootstrap_neutron` https://review.openstack.org/247368 | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Factor out definition of nodes in Vagrantfile https://review.openstack.org/246930 | 09:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Motohiro/Yuanying Otsuka proposed openstack/kolla: Avoid to use `run_once` https://review.openstack.org/247368 | 09:51 |
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| hetii | Hi | 12:14 |
| rhallisey | hetii, hello | 12:15 |
| hetii | What is the minimal set of docker container with services to have minimal working set of OpenStack ? | 12:15 |
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| rhallisey | nova, keystone, neutron, glance, mysql, rabbitmq ovs | 12:19 |
| hetii | thx :> | 12:19 |
| rhallisey | hetii, if you're looking for an easy deployment, just run our AIO install | 12:19 |
| hetii | AIO ? | 12:19 |
| hetii | where I can find that ? | 12:20 |
| rhallisey | hetii, https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/doc/quickstart.rst | 12:20 |
| hetii | thx will investigate that ;) | 12:21 |
| rhallisey | no problem | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Bourke proposed openstack/kolla: Reformat kolla-build.conf to YAML https://review.openstack.org/246942 | 12:55 |
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| SamYaple | morning | 13:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Pin specific version of Ceph https://review.openstack.org/247488 | 13:11 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: I have left an update on the venv thing. I really dont want to change the ansible stuff at all, and we shouldnt have to. I left a proposed solution in the patchset | 13:11 |
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| nihilifer | SamYaple: that will not work | 13:13 |
| nihilifer | kolla-ansible inherits from openstack-base | 13:14 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: so? | 13:14 |
| SamYaple | we dont install ansible | 13:14 |
| nihilifer | so every pip install inside it will point to virtualenv | 13:14 |
| nihilifer | not system-wide pip | 13:14 |
| SamYaple | oh i see | 13:14 |
| SamYaple | that should be fine though | 13:14 |
| nihilifer | we can override path for each openstack container separately | 13:14 |
| nihilifer | maybe that will work | 13:15 |
| SamYaple | wait why are you saying this will break anything | 13:15 |
| SamYaple | this only affects source installs | 13:15 |
| nihilifer | maybe it won't break, but on the previous review you wrote that you want kolla-ansible to be untouched | 13:15 |
| nihilifer | and that you want ansible installed system-wide, not in venv | 13:15 |
| nihilifer | so? | 13:16 |
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| SamYaple | yea be call /usr/bin/pip directly in that container dont we | 13:16 |
| nihilifer | ah, ok, didn't think about that | 13:16 |
| nihilifer | fine, so let's try this | 13:16 |
| SamYaple | oh we dont actually do that currently | 13:17 |
| SamYaple | but that would be the least edit-all-the-files solution I think | 13:17 |
| nihilifer | yep, it should be changed | 13:17 |
| SamYaple | ok so that would need to touch the kolla-ansible container | 13:18 |
| SamYaple | but thats to prevent teh venv usage (which will 100% break the container) | 13:18 |
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| SamYaple | hey to all you cores out there, can i please get some reviews on this 10-day old patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242908 | 13:21 |
| dave-mccowan | SamYaple ping | 13:21 |
| SamYaple | dave-mccowan: pong | 13:21 |
| dave-mccowan | i'm back for more :-) | 13:21 |
| SamYaple | pew pew | 13:21 |
| dave-mccowan | So, my yet-to-be-documented proposal for TLS was to make TLS support on by default. that's part of the reason i wanted to generate certificates, so TLS could work with no extra user config. what do you think about TLS on by default? | 13:22 |
| nihilifer | SamYaple: what about sdake's comment? | 13:23 |
| nihilifer | "I think this needs a backport. can you add the backport: liberty flag?" | 13:23 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: as i responded to it, i said no because we dont do that when the bug is attached | 13:23 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: also see the logs from the meeting yesterday | 13:23 |
| nihilifer | ok | 13:24 |
| nihilifer | not a core yet, so only +1 :P | 13:24 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: you should be | 13:24 |
| nihilifer | 1 day to 20th Nov | 13:24 |
| SamYaple | dave-mccowan: yes TLS by default is fine by me. But that just means the tls certs must be inplace before we have to use this | 13:25 |
| SamYaple | dave-mccowan: this could be part of the config setup (where you set options etc) so you could either gen the certs or turn off ssl | 13:25 |
| SamYaple | we do have a minimal setup anyway, it isn't a single command you can run | 13:26 |
| SamYaple | oh I should mention, the plan here is to have this config copy stuff done in a scripted way | 13:27 |
| SamYaple | so it copies the config and also generates a password.yml for you that isn't filed with 'password' but random passwords | 13:27 |
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| inc0 | mornign | 13:42 |
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| SamYaple | nihilifer: so it actually seems we will need to move kolla-ansible off of the openstack-base | 13:49 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: it wont be able to take advantage of the space savings of openstack-base anyway since that stuff is installed in the virtualenv | 13:50 |
| SamYaple | we dont have to do it this patchset, just fyi | 13:50 |
| SamYaple | morning inc0 | 13:50 |
| inc0 | howdy guys? | 13:51 |
| vbel | SamYaple, nihilifer better move kolla-ansible off ... totally agree. shade reqs don't correspond to global-reqs of openstack releases unfortunately | 13:53 |
| inc0 | but we still want kolla-ansible in openstack namespace | 13:57 |
| nihilifer | inc0: what do you mean? | 14:00 |
| nihilifer | is anything from openstack-base in kolla-ansible? | 14:01 |
| nihilifer | is anything needed* | 14:01 |
| inc0 | you mean kolla-ansible as container or repo?;) | 14:01 |
| inc0 | sorry I was out of context | 14:01 |
| inc0 | brb sorry | 14:01 |
| nihilifer | container | 14:03 |
| SamYaple | vbel: thats actually a very good point. i hadn't even considered that | 14:07 |
| SamYaple | inc0: yea kolla-ansible will just be base->kolla-ansible instead of base->openstack-base->kolla-ansible | 14:08 |
| SamYaple | inc0: yea kolla-ansibl | 14:19 |
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| nihilifer | SamYaple: about ceph version | 14:53 |
| nihilifer | it seems that i have to use ceph repo instead of ubuntu | 14:53 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: what do you mean? | 14:53 |
| nihilifer | i mean that each ubuntu release has different version of ceph | 14:54 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: this is one of the reasons we use cloud-archive | 14:54 |
| SamYaple | ceph is pinned on ubuntu because of cloud-archive | 14:54 |
| SamYaple | its already pinned to 0.94.3 | 14:54 |
| SamYaple | (cloud-archive also provides decently new versions of rabbitmq, qemu, libvirt etc) | 14:55 |
| nihilifer | hmmm... nope? I did "kolla-build --base ubuntu --type source" | 14:55 |
| nihilifer | it has ceph package in 0.94.5 version | 14:55 |
| nihilifer | from official 15.10 repo | 14:55 |
| SamYaple | let me check what youre saying | 14:55 |
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| nihilifer | trtrt | 14:56 |
| SamYaple | ? | 14:56 |
| nihilifer | sorry, nvm this message | 14:56 |
| nihilifer | my shell hanged... | 14:57 |
| nihilifer | i'm trying with trusty now | 14:57 |
| nihilifer | INFO:kolla.cmd.build:ceph-base:Setting up ceph (0.94.5-0ubuntu0.15.10.1~cloud0) .. | 14:58 |
| SamYaple | i dont see that let me try a fresh rebuild | 14:59 |
| nihilifer | i'll check whether we can pin to 0.94.3 explicitly | 15:00 |
| nihilifer | and whether the old package even is present in cloud archive | 15:00 |
| nihilifer | it it's not, we'll probably have to use ceph repos | 15:00 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: oh no thats right | 15:01 |
| SamYaple | http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/liberty/main/binary-amd64/Packages | 15:02 |
| nihilifer | SamYaple: http://paste.openstack.org/show/479430/ | 15:02 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: thats not from 15.10 were good | 15:02 |
| SamYaple | i was mistaked on the 0.94.3 thing | 15:02 |
| nihilifer | so... ceph repo? | 15:02 |
| SamYaple | no | 15:02 |
| SamYaple | cloud-archive | 15:02 |
| SamYaple | look at the link i posted and grep "Package: ceph-common" | 15:03 |
| SamYaple | thats the version you see, yes? | 15:03 |
| SamYaple | thats from the trusty liberty archive | 15:03 |
| nihilifer | yep, 0.94.5 | 15:04 |
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| SamYaple | so i was mistaken in my comment to ask you to pin to 0.94.3 | 15:04 |
| nihilifer | ok, then we're stayig with 0.94.5, right? | 15:04 |
| SamYaple | yes | 15:05 |
| SamYaple | sorry about the confusion | 15:05 |
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| SamYaple | if you want to pin away from cloud-archive for ceph, im ok with that fyi | 15:05 |
| SamYaple | for consistency | 15:05 |
| akwasnie | SamYaple: any ideas why tracebacks are not logged in rsyslog? if we use python logging everything seems to be fine, can it be a problem with oslo log? | 15:05 |
| SamYaple | akwasnie: yea it was never setup properly | 15:06 |
| SamYaple | inc0 has been busy recently, he said he would fix it | 15:06 |
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| SamYaple | but if you want to do it im sure he wont mind | 15:06 |
| akwasnie | do you mean oslo or rsyslog, that was never setup properly? | 15:07 |
| SamYaple | our rsyslog logging | 15:07 |
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| akwasnie | i tried different configurations of rsyslog but without any result | 15:08 |
| akwasnie | do you have any leads on what can be the root of a problem? | 15:08 |
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| SamYaple | akwasnie: yea the logging confguration per openstack service is not correct with rsyslog | 15:08 |
| SamYaple | its just a configuration issue on the openstack service side | 15:09 |
| akwasnie | ok, thank you! will try again | 15:11 |
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| inc0 | SamYaple, I don't mind, I was working with akwasne around that really | 15:31 |
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| inc0 | SamYaple, have you tested kolla on docker 1.9? | 16:22 |
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| SamYaple | inc0: yea i run with 1.9 and dev mostly | 16:23 |
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| inc0 | it doesn't seem to be working for me, it breaks on something about exposed ports on maria | 16:34 |
| SamYaple | inc0: you cant run ansible with >docker 1,8,2 | 16:34 |
| SamYaple | ansible docker moudle is bust | 16:35 |
| SamYaple | i patched it and the patch is upstream | 16:35 |
| SamYaple | bu youll have to pull in the patch to make it work | 16:35 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: ive been considering how we could pull off not using cloud-archive (because you said use debian packages which are borked btw). here is what we would need: | 16:37 |
| SamYaple | rabbitmq pinning | 16:37 |
| SamYaple | ceph pinning | 16:38 |
| SamYaple | newer version of qemu and libvirt (and pinning) | 16:38 |
| SamYaple | and i think thats it | 16:38 |
| SamYaple | thoughts? | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Convert gate to Ansible setup https://review.openstack.org/244538 | 16:53 |
| inc0 | hmf, we should have a config file with version pins | 16:58 |
| inc0 | much like requirements.txy | 16:58 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, which patch fixes ansible? | 16:59 |
| SamYaple | inc0: just grab the docker module from the head of devel in ansible-core-modules | 17:00 |
| SamYaple | itll have the fixes you want | 17:00 |
| inc0 | ah you mean its ansible fix | 17:00 |
| SamYaple | yup | 17:00 |
| inc0 | ok, gonna do that | 17:00 |
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| SamYaple | inc0: we do have a config file... its the kolla-build.conf | 17:00 |
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| inc0 | SamYaple, I meant to add version pins there | 17:01 |
| inc0 | so we won't have it pinned in dockerfiles | 17:01 |
| SamYaple | i dont follow | 17:02 |
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| SamYaple | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247326/ | 17:02 |
| inc0 | but that's for tarballs | 17:02 |
| SamYaple | what are you talking about pinning? | 17:03 |
| inc0 | I meant rabbitmq_version=whatever | 17:03 |
| SamYaple | oh | 17:03 |
| SamYaple | yea but thats different per distro | 17:03 |
| inc0 | a right | 17:03 |
| SamYaple | with different names for the same version | 17:03 |
| inc0 | still it would be good to have dedicated file for that, not spread all around the place | 17:03 |
| SamYaple | i dont know how that would work | 17:03 |
| inc0 | something to think about | 17:03 |
| SamYaple | for debian we have a pin file, centos seems ot just o it from the command line | 17:04 |
| inc0 | I think its doable, we can laverage jinja2 and such | 17:04 |
| inc0 | I don't want to answer it right now, but I think that should be doable | 17:05 |
| SamYaple | seems like a needless abstraction since the debian/centos pins will not always be the same | 17:05 |
| inc0 | and useful | 17:05 |
| SamYaple | even the centos/rdo pins may not be the same | 17:05 |
| inc0 | still, doable | 17:05 |
| SamYaple | yea everythings doable | 17:06 |
| inc0 | we can have different file per distro | 17:06 |
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| SamYaple | like a said, seems like a needless abstraction but what do i know | 17:06 |
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| inc0 | it might be, but let's not throw away idea just now, I'll think about that | 17:07 |
| inc0 | it's just - having all the versions in same place is convenient and easier to support on longer run | 17:07 |
| SamYaple | i agree i just cant see a clean way to do it | 17:07 |
| SamYaple | idealy we only install a package in a single place anyway | 17:08 |
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| SamYaple | but i know what you mean | 17:08 |
| SamYaple | you know me, im a big believer in DRY | 17:08 |
| inc0 | jinja2 has all sorts of tools that might help us | 17:08 |
| inc0 | macros and stuff | 17:08 |
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| SamYaple | we never did discuss using the more advanced jinja2 stuff at the summit | 17:08 |
| inc0 | yeah we had more important things to do there | 17:08 |
| SamYaple | i think everyone is pretty familiar with jinja2 at this point and would be open to more advanced features | 17:09 |
| SamYaple | maybe well talk about it at the next few meetings | 17:09 |
| inc0 | thats my thoughts | 17:09 |
| SamYaple | or midcycle | 17:09 |
| inc0 | midcycle beertrack would be good | 17:09 |
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| inc0 | also if I find a moment I'll play around so I could show some concrete examples | 17:09 |
| SamYaple | yea that would be good | 17:09 |
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| nihilifer | SamYaple: generally, i'm thinking about using environment variables, somewhere in base image next to repositories setting, for version pinning | 17:44 |
| nihilifer | ie. ENV CEPH_VERSION xyz | 17:44 |
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| nihilifer | and use this variables later, when installing packages | 17:44 |
| nihilifer | that would let us keep the versions in one place | 17:44 |
| nihilifer | of coruse, these vars have to be inside if statements, different for each distro | 17:45 |
| nihilifer | what do you mean by newer version of qemu and libvirt? you mean that we need them newer than in debian repos or what? | 17:46 |
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| nihilifer | on the other hand, i'm thinking how we can let people define their repos | 17:47 |
| nihilifer | because every bigger company or openstack vendor use their mirrors | 17:48 |
| nihilifer | many people want their customized packages | 17:48 |
| nihilifer | etc. | 17:48 |
| inc0 | I don't think we want to abuse envs too much | 17:49 |
| inc0 | we've been there... | 17:49 |
| inc0 | I'd rather tinker a way to keep it in build conf somewhere | 17:50 |
| inc0 | also, where would you keep values for these envs? | 17:50 |
| inc0 | and...you don't have envs on build | 17:50 |
| inc0 | (or did they merge build envs in docker 1.8?) | 17:51 |
| nihilifer | you're right, envs are not visible during build | 17:53 |
| nihilifer | ok | 17:53 |
| nihilifer | so kolla-build config | 17:53 |
| inc0 | hold on with that | 17:54 |
| inc0 | have you seen discussion above? | 17:55 |
| inc0 | each distro might have different name of version or even package | 17:55 |
| inc0 | so it won't be so trivial to make it right | 17:55 |
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| nihilifer | i don't imagine fully for now how we can implement your proposal with requirements and jinja2, but the idea itself is good, it's something to think about | 17:59 |
| nihilifer | i think that for the current patch about ceph pin i still have to write a version explicitly on every "yum install" | 18:00 |
| nihilifer | because we'll probably not provide any better solution before 4th dec | 18:01 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: yes cloud-archive provides newer version of qemu and libvirt | 18:02 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: does debian have a seperate openstack repo? or are you talking about like adding debian sid to ubuntu? | 18:03 |
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| SamYaple | nihilifer: inc0 is centos able to pin packages in a file? | 18:03 |
| SamYaple | for debian/ubuntu im just going to drop in an apt/pref file with all the pinnings | 18:04 |
| SamYaple | we dont pin on the commandline for ubuntu currectly, i dont plan to start | 18:04 |
| nihilifer | SamYaple: debian has its openstack repo, i'm talking about it | 18:04 |
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| nihilifer | afair, centos doesn't have pining in file | 18:05 |
| nihilifer | but i can be wrong | 18:05 |
| nihilifer | i was always using yum versionlock cmd | 18:05 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: then my comments about the packages being foobar were probably offbase, can you point me to that repo? | 18:06 |
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| nihilifer | SamYaple: http://openstack.alioth.debian.org/ | 18:07 |
| nihilifer | they have plan to make "delorean" too | 18:08 |
| SamYaple | there is no qemu packages :/ | 18:08 |
| SamYaple | im not sure how we can go about that then | 18:09 |
| SamYaple | no other repo has up to date packages | 18:09 |
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| nihilifer | if the only problem with these repos will be about making several packages, its doable | 18:09 |
| nihilifer | the main guy maintaining these repos is a guy from mirantis | 18:10 |
| nihilifer | if anything doable will be needed for kolla here, they can do this | 18:11 |
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| SamYaple | so here is my concern nihilifer, canonical has commited to providing security updates to the cloud-archive packages | 18:12 |
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| SamYaple | if we do debian packages on ubuntu, there is no garuntee they well work _and_ there is no commitment to security (that I know of) | 18:13 |
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| SamYaple | if the debian package breaks because ubuntu 14.04 doesnt use something debian jessie does we are SoL | 18:13 |
| SamYaple | its not recommended to mix packages for these reasons | 18:13 |
| SamYaple | centos family is a bit different because they are all under the same umbrella | 18:14 |
| SamYaple | ubuntu is a fork of debian | 18:14 |
| SamYaple | can you comment on my concerns? | 18:14 |
| nihilifer | if you're talking about security updates in openstack and required libraries, they're backported regularily to these debian packages | 18:16 |
| SamYaple | ok. what assurance can you make that those packages will always work on 14.04? 16.04? | 18:18 |
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| nihilifer | SamYaple: no better idea than just a good ci | 18:59 |
| SamYaple | then we cant go that direction for ubuntu | 18:59 |
| SamYaple | but obivously we will use those for debian | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Noyes proposed openstack/kolla: initial spec for kolla rest api client https://review.openstack.org/245917 | 20:30 |
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| dave-mccowan | what happened with ansible-barbican blueprint? | 21:39 |
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| SamYaple | dave-mccowan: i think we removed barbican as a container cause it was broken | 21:41 |
| SamYaple | so the blueprint went away too | 21:42 |
| dave-mccowan | what was messed up? something in barbican or something specific to the container? | 21:42 |
| SamYaple | dave-mccowan: you are welcome to do the work to add it back, you will meet not resistance | 21:42 |
| SamYaple | dave-mccowan: we werent maintaining and building teh container (it was failing) | 21:42 |
| SamYaple | i dont think it was barbican related | 21:43 |
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| asalkeld | morning | 23:50 |
| SamYaple | morning asalkeld | 23:51 |
| asalkeld | SamYaple: you wanted to chat about the lack of "volumes_from", i was thinking of mounting a host volume to start with | 23:52 |
| asalkeld | aparently there are some other interesting options that will need more investigation | 23:54 |
| SamYaple | asalkeld: to be 100% honest with you, ive always thought that was a great idea | 23:54 |
| SamYaple | with docker 1.9 there is now pid mapping so its also secure | 23:54 |
| SamYaple | sdake likes the data volumes and it does make sense for a container project i suppsoe | 23:55 |
| pbourke_ | we need to get past 1.8.2 | 23:55 |
| SamYaple | pbourke_: the only way that happens is i write the docker module for us | 23:55 |
| pbourke_ | if that means forking docker module at this I think im good with that | 23:55 |
| pbourke_ | *at this stage | 23:55 |
| SamYaple | or we move to (a yet unreleased) ansible 2.0 | 23:55 |
| pbourke_ | or that | 23:55 |
| SamYaple | we cant fork it | 23:55 |
| SamYaple | licensing | 23:55 |
| pbourke_ | :( | 23:55 |
| SamYaple | dont worry when i first cacme to Kolla i did a docker-compose module | 23:56 |
| SamYaple | its mostly the same work | 23:56 |
| pbourke_ | whats the hangup with beta 2.9 | 23:56 |
| pbourke_ | *2.0 | 23:56 |
| SamYaple | 2.0 is all kinds of broked | 23:56 |
| SamYaple | because its a rewrite of the whole project | 23:56 |
| pbourke_ | heh | 23:56 |
| SamYaple | basically all the stability gained from the 1.x branch is thrown out and its a 'lessons learned' rewrite | 23:56 |
| pbourke_ | oh I see not fork but replace | 23:56 |
| SamYaple | i have no doubt it will become better and more stable, but when that happens is anyones guess | 23:57 |
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