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opendevreview | Tim Burke proposed openstack/project-config master: pti-python-tarball: Add option to install bindep https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/794351 | 00:01 |
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opendevreview | Ian Wienand proposed opendev/system-config master: Testing ansible unzip fixes https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794353 | 00:07 |
ianw | hrm, the limestone mirror has a highish system load -> load average: 2.00, 2.08, 1.54 | 00:09 |
ianw | and i've noticed at least "system-config-run-letsencrypt (2. attempt)" | 00:10 |
ianw | the load average is now up to 5. i will keep an eye, but it seems suspiciously like when we put a real load on the server it starts to fall over | 00:15 |
opendevreview | Ian Wienand proposed opendev/system-config master: Add static eavesdrop.openstack.org site https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794089 | 00:20 |
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ianw | 794353 still doesn't appear to be in the gate queue. it has a depends-on a github change which makes me suspicious | 00:26 |
opendevreview | Merged opendev/system-config master: Serve meetings.opendev.org https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794086 | 00:33 |
ianw | load average: 106.95, 57.03, 25.81 | 00:39 |
ianw | i would say that the limestone mirror is unhappy | 00:39 |
opendevreview | Ian Wienand proposed openstack/project-config master: Revert "Revert "Disable limestone due to mirror issues"" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/794357 | 00:46 |
ianw | i cna't seem to log into the ticketing system using any credentials | 00:50 |
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opendevreview | Merged openstack/project-config master: Revert "Revert "Disable limestone due to mirror issues"" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/794357 | 01:00 |
fungi | ianw: i didn't even know there was a ticketing system, just always pestered logan- | 01:13 |
fungi | he's not in here, but still in our old channel on freenode, leaving me to suspect he might not be around much | 01:14 |
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opendevreview | Ian Wienand proposed opendev/zone-opendev.org master: meetings.o.o : fix acme typo https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/794369 | 03:10 |
opendevreview | Merged opendev/zone-opendev.org master: meetings.o.o : fix acme typo https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/794369 | 03:20 |
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sledbarred | hello, is there someone i can talk to about deleting my account on opendev? | 03:51 |
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opendevreview | Ian Wienand proposed opendev/system-config master: Add static eavesdrop.openstack.org site https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794089 | 04:36 |
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opendevreview | yatin proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: [DNM] Test oooq build image without CentOS preshipped repos https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/diskimage-builder/+/794395 | 04:40 |
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opendevreview | Merged opendev/system-config master: Add static eavesdrop.openstack.org site https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794089 | 06:47 |
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opendevreview | Ian Wienand proposed openstack/project-config master: Revert "Revert "Revert "Disable limestone due to mirror issues""" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/794406 | 06:49 |
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opendevreview | Niklas Borg proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Add properties to upload-artifactory https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/789543 | 07:09 |
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opendevreview | Sankar Palanivel proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: TEST: Do not merge https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/794268 | 08:30 |
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zbr | corvus: what is the status of gertty? i see you worked on it recently while the only job running being "noop". See comment on https://review.opendev.org/c/ttygroup/gertty/+/794241 | 09:02 |
opendevreview | Sankar Palanivel proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: TEST: Do not merge https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/794268 | 09:23 |
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opendevreview | xinliang proposed opendev/system-config master: Enable openEuler mirroring https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/784874 | 09:35 |
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opendevreview | xinliang proposed opendev/system-config master: Enable openEuler mirroring https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/784874 | 09:43 |
opendevreview | xinliang proposed opendev/system-config master: Enable openEuler mirroring https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/784874 | 09:46 |
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opendevreview | Thierry Carrez proposed opendev/irc-meetings master: Move Large Scale SIG to #openstack-operators https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/irc-meetings/+/794555 | 10:05 |
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opendevreview | Merged opendev/irc-meetings master: Move Large Scale SIG to #openstack-operators https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/irc-meetings/+/794555 | 10:26 |
opendevreview | xinliang proposed opendev/system-config master: Enable openEuler mirroring https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/784874 | 10:36 |
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mnaser | i'm seeing some spam in #openinfra-summit / TheJulia is currently op'd there, perhaps fungi could help get that registered? it seems unregistered atm | 13:06 |
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fungi | mnaser: #openinfra-summit isn't an official channel, you want #openinfra-events | 13:08 |
fungi | we moved from that on freenode months ago | 13:08 |
fungi | TheJulia: ^ | 13:08 |
mnaser | ahhhh, yes, the topic in freenode says the same | 13:09 |
fungi | i guess some people were still configured to autojoin it anyway | 13:09 |
mnaser | yeah i haven't really parted | 13:09 |
* mnaser is trying to stay in as much channels as possible | 13:09 | |
mnaser | thanks and sorry for the noise :) | 13:10 |
fungi | though that also demonstrates that we probably can't drop the +s flag from our official oftc channels, if channels without it are still getting spammed | 13:10 |
fungi | was it more libera bashing spam? | 13:10 |
mnaser | fungi: yeah, #vexxhost was hit too | 13:11 |
fungi | i'm hoping once the war between freenode and libera calms down, that spam will dry up and we can consider dropping the +s flag on our channels | 13:12 |
TheJulia | mnaser: topic set and departed | 13:12 |
fungi | thanks TheJulia! | 13:12 |
mnaser | fungi: by the way, any reason why we didnt do +M ? | 13:13 |
mnaser | which in combination of a 'join message' could be a little user friendly as to why someone cannot speak (i did some mode learning today bc of the spam in #vexxhost) | 13:13 |
fungi | mnaser: mostly because we don't want users to have to learn how to do nick registration and auth if possible | 13:14 |
fungi | mnaser: if you're doing +M then you might also consider +z and leaving some folks opped in the channel, so that they can see whatever the unidentified nicks are trying to say | 13:15 |
mnaser | fungi: ohhhh i see! | 13:15 |
mnaser | i thought +s was what +R is | 13:15 |
mnaser | ok, that is a much better solution then! | 13:15 |
* mnaser will drop +M and swithc to +s then | 13:16 | |
fungi | but yes, +Mz is our current fallback option if +s doesn't hold (though so far it seems to be working) | 13:16 |
mnaser | fungi: thank you! | 13:16 |
fungi | yw | 13:16 |
opendevreview | Merged ttygroup/gertty master: Bump python version. https://review.opendev.org/c/ttygroup/gertty/+/794241 | 13:18 |
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lowercase | Here i am | 14:04 |
lowercase | @jrosser | 14:04 |
jrosser | lowercase: hi there - i have a meeting starting right now (sorry!) | 14:05 |
jrosser | noonedeadpunk: are you around to look at this python_venv_build trouble? ^^ | 14:05 |
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opendevreview | Merged zuul/zuul-jobs master: Add properties to upload-artifactory https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/789543 | 14:05 |
noonedeadpunk | I am | 14:05 |
noonedeadpunk | lowercase: can you kindly provide some more details about what has been done during upgrade? And eventually what osa version do you run? | 14:06 |
noonedeadpunk | afaik you was adding just new hosts to swift or smth like that? So it was not like osa version upgrade among computes? | 14:08 |
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lowercase | I was upgraded a dozen hypervisors from ussuri to victoria. The default variable for the os-nova-install playbook is to pull the git repo from opendev.org/openstack/nova. That step did not succeed due to the service being offline. I jumped into this irc and confirmed the issue was indeed remotely, but was caused due to large git clones of afromentioned git repos. I modified the | 14:44 |
lowercase | default nova_git_repo variable to github.com/openstack/nova and was able to complete my upgrade. | 14:44 |
fungi | noonedeadpunk: ^ | 14:44 |
lowercase | The ceph stuff you mentioned is happening in tandem, but not related. | 14:46 |
noonedeadpunk | lowercase: hm, gotcha. and do you happen to have overwritten `venv_wheel_build_enable`? | 14:59 |
noonedeadpunk | also, are you running same OS on the controllers and hypervisors? | 15:00 |
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lowercase | I checked, and no, venv_wheel_build_enable is not overwritten. | 15:15 |
lowercase | In this case, I am not running the same OS version on the controllers and hypervisors. For Victoria, nova requires libvirt 5.0+ which in turn requires ubuntu 20.04. So I moved only the hypervisors to 20.04 | 15:16 |
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clarkb | sledbarred isn't here anymore but if they show up again and others are able to respond but not delete accuonts certainly an email to the list to start a conversation makes sense (we can then take it off list if we need to share details) | 15:22 |
clarkb | fungi: have you tried pinging logan on freenode? if not I can do that. Is the TLDR that load on the mirror climbs to the point that it is no longer functional and we suspect disk io? | 15:23 |
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fungi | i have not, no | 15:32 |
opendevreview | Ade Lee proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Add role to enable FIPS on a node https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/788778 | 15:33 |
clarkb | fungi: is that tldr of the issue the way you understand it? | 15:33 |
noonedeadpunk | lowercase: that's the reason why it failed | 15:34 |
noonedeadpunk | you can't do that :) | 15:34 |
noonedeadpunk | you need to also upgrade at least one of the repo containers | 15:35 |
clarkb | fungi: ianw: ok I PM'd over on freenode and offered to move to whatever platform works best for logan | 15:35 |
noonedeadpunk | otherwise all upgrades will take "number of nodes"*time | 15:35 |
noonedeadpunk | lowercase: moreover, ubuntu 18.04 is supported on Victoria and does have required libvirt | 15:35 |
noonedeadpunk | but actaully good to know that one of our thoughs has been proved | 15:36 |
fungi | clarkb: yeah, sorry, slow to respond, i'm literally in three meetings at the same time | 15:36 |
noonedeadpunk | then we can think about the way to protect from that | 15:36 |
clarkb | fungi: no worries, today has been a slow start for me for other reasons and trying to kick start things so jumping in :) | 15:37 |
noonedeadpunk | lowercase: UCA http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ provides required libvirt | 15:38 |
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lowercase | noonedeadpunk: if you go down the links, you will see that victoria is not supported by bionic | 16:20 |
lowercase | http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/ | 16:20 |
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jrosser | lowercase: thats not relevant, because for a victoria OSA deployment on bionic, the 'ussuri' UCA repo is used, see https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts/blob/stable/victoria/vars/ubuntu-18.04.yml#L95 | 16:26 |
jrosser | and as we deploy the services themselves from source code, not from .deb in UCA that is a valid approach to get the required libvirt | 16:26 |
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jrosser | fungi: good news on the base-test patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/794332 | 16:39 |
jrosser | i had to adjust it a little to remove our existing workaround, it's passed everything with that removed | 16:39 |
fungi | oh, cool. the bullseye and non-bullseye jobs both, hopefully (exercising both branches of logic there) | 16:40 |
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fungi | in that case i'll go ahead and propose the production change to that role | 16:41 |
fungi | in unrelated news, this is somewhat unfortunate: https://discuss.python.org/t/8870 | 16:42 |
fungi | apparently matrix was semi-represented as the "gitter" entry there. calls to add open source options like zulip seem to have gone ignored | 16:44 |
clarkb | infra-root ok both test listservs have been upgraded. I took notes on the process and recorded that all here https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/listserv-inplace-upgrade-testing-2021 | 16:44 |
clarkb | if you can take a look at those two servers and see if anything seems compeltely broken that would be helpful (I'm not the biggest mailman expert) | 16:44 |
clarkb | Note on lists.o.o only the opendev vhost is running though it should be fine to start the other vhosts if you like | 16:44 |
clarkb | I'm not feeling super confident in the upgrade based on using those test nodes because our test images seem odd enough that we are unlikely to run itno the same package update questsions in prod. For this reason I think we probably should find some time to do a prod snapshot and test an upgrade on that. | 16:45 |
clarkb | That said this has been useful for sorting out things like the systemd units for mailman and general process | 16:45 |
clarkb | I think major issues will be cuaght here and so far I haven't seen any. Its the samll issues like what do we do fro $config update during the upgrade where the snapshot will be helpful | 16:46 |
fungi | infra-root: i pushed a series of irc doc changes for system-config yesterday under topic:oftc, including the process change we talked about in the meeting for channel renames | 17:10 |
clarkb | fungi: thanks, I'll review them now so I don't forget | 17:11 |
fungi | broke the edits up by section to make discussion easier, they're each fairly trivial on their own | 17:11 |
clarkb | https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794313 appears to be the base change | 17:12 |
fungi | yes, that's the one discussed in the meeting so i put it first in hopes we could merge it sooner, as there are outstanding changes hingingon solidifying the process change we talked about | 17:12 |
clarkb | fungi: any thoughts on why we should choose to make someone an admin vs an op? | 17:14 |
clarkb | re https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794314/1/doc/source/irc.rst | 17:14 |
fungi | we could stand to add some documentation explaining when one would be more useful than the other. more generally it's that you really only need to add ops for basic things like banning disruptive users and updating the channel topic, but in cases where the team running the channel wants more direct control in collaboration with us having admins accomplishes that | 17:16 |
fungi | i'd probably add that explanation in a separate change | 17:17 |
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fungi | also i'm trying to avoid us getting too prescriptive about how teams manage their channels. we already require they grant us admin access to the channel if they want us to run bots in it, so beyond that i think if they want additional channel rights for some of their team that's fine | 17:21 |
fungi | i certainly don't want it to seem like we're saying they're not allowed more control over their channels | 17:22 |
clarkb | for sure. Its more that I expect many won't understand the difference so we might need to give them that guidance | 17:23 |
clarkb | not to say "you can't have admin" but "if you want to do X Y and Z then admin is necessary" | 17:24 |
fungi | also this was a stopgap for the migration, where a lot of channels had various rights delegated to specific users, and replicating that to oftc would have been intractable, so this allows them to re-bootstrap some semblance of that while still being tracked in git | 17:26 |
fungi | and hopefully reduces the burden on us in the longer term, since we don't need to manually add people to channels any longer | 17:27 |
clarkb | fungi: that stack lgtm | 17:28 |
fungi | thanks@ | 17:28 |
fungi | s/@/!/ | 17:28 |
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corvus | fungi: your perl is showing | 17:31 |
fungi | oops! | 17:31 |
fungi | at least nobody say my pascal | 17:32 |
fungi | saw | 17:32 |
opendevreview | Jeremy Stanley proposed opendev/base-jobs master: Set a fallback VERSION_ID in the mirror-info role https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/base-jobs/+/791177 | 17:34 |
fungi | jrosser: ^ | 17:34 |
clarkb | infra-root can you take a look at https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794049 and tell me if you think that is too dangerous? I just noticed we run puppet testing a lot but more and more we don't need/use puppet so wanted to flip around the decision making process from irrelevant files to files on that job | 17:50 |
clarkb | fungi: https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/base-jobs/+/791177 is tested via the base-test job? | 17:51 |
fungi | clarkb: yes, see my comments on it | 17:51 |
clarkb | aha ya I see your comment now. Thanks | 17:51 |
fungi | np | 17:51 |
opendevreview | Jeremy Stanley proposed opendev/system-config master: Forward openstack-security ML to openstack-discuss https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794659 | 17:58 |
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opendevreview | Jeremy Stanley proposed opendev/system-config master: Explain when to add admins and ops with accessbot https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/794671 | 19:20 |
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ianw | https://meetings.opendev.org/ is up and appears to be proxying correctly to eavesdrop01 | 21:49 |
ianw | (i.e. https://meetings.opendev.org/irclogs and meetings.opendev.org/meetings) | 21:50 |
ianw | static is setup to forward all eavesdrop.o.o there; if someone has time to put it in hosts and test it, i think we can switch | 21:52 |
ianw | i think we can bringup eavesdrop01.opendev.org and maybe run a parallel meetbot in sandbox channel just to confirm everything | 21:55 |
ianw | then cut over to it, bring the other bots, kill all the puppet and move on | 21:56 |
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fungi | awesome! i'll check it out in a few minutes | 22:05 |
fungi | ianw: yep, working for me, including the redirect | 22:53 |
fungi | that plan sounds great | 22:54 |
ianw | fungi: excellent, thanks for checking. | 22:56 |
fungi | thanks for getting it going | 22:56 |
fungi | in other ircbot news, statusbot is still running smoothly... i hate heisenbugs | 22:57 |
ianw | as dicussed in #zuul, i'm going to try creating an API token for our zuul. i think this just needs to go into the secrets dict; but i guess we'll have to run ansible and restart the scheduler to pick it up | 22:59 |
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corvus | ianw: i think that's XOR with app installation | 23:02 |
ianw | corvus: yeah, it seems that if the app is authenticated to the project, then graphql queries can run | 23:07 |
ianw | my theory is to add a developer api key to https://github.com/opendevadmin and put that in the api_token field of the github connection in our secrets | 23:07 |
ianw | alright, i've done that; i can run the zuul graphql query using "Authorization bearer: <token>" | 23:30 |
ianw | i've added the details in the usual places, and updated secrets with "api_token" | 23:30 |
ianw | i guess we need a scheduler restart to see if it works; i'm not sure what the appetite for doing that is | 23:31 |
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