spotz[m] | I'll pull up last year's submittal as a starting point. This year we have the survey, CoC revamp to mention for sure | 00:37 |
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fungi | yep, sounds great | 00:38 |
fungi | thanks! | 00:38 |
spotz[m] | Ok I found a draft from 2021. Good enough, I'll actually add it in the agenda so not to waste an etherpad | 00:40 |
fungi | possible we didn't do one last year | 00:40 |
spotz[m] | No we did, I just can't find it in my packrat email and found this one:) | 00:41 |
fungi | the past few years have been a blur | 00:41 |
spotz[m] | Ok it's in the agenda and I updated it some and atleast removed the old parts. Now we need better wording and anything I missed:) But that's for tomorrow | 00:47 |
fungi | indeed, thanks again! | 00:47 |
fungi | see you then | 00:47 |
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fungi | i'm around, just putting the kettle on | 15:00 |
spotz[m] | Sounds good let me get us started | 15:01 |
spotz[m] | #startmeeting diversity_wg | 15:02 |
opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Dec 12 15:02:01 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
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opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg' | 15:02 |
spotz[m] | #chair fungi | 15:02 |
opendevmeet | Current chairs: fungi spotz[m] | 15:02 |
spotz[m] | #topic Roll call | 15:02 |
spotz[m] | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda | 15:02 |
fungi | ahoy! | 15:02 |
spotz[m] | Thanks for all the work on getting us the page on the website! | 15:03 |
spotz[m] | We have one main topic for today, so we can either have an open floor after or end early. | 15:04 |
spotz[m] | #topic Annual Report Submission | 15:04 |
spotz[m] | As mentioned on the channel previously but I'll repeat for the log. We have a draft up in the agenda based on the one I found for 2021 as I couldn't locate last year's easily. I've removed the older stuff and replaced with the things I remembered. | 15:05 |
spotz[m] | So we can add/delete move, edit, etc on the etherpad before we submit. We did well with the working session for the webpage so I figured we'd do the same for this | 15:06 |
fungi | yep, just looking back over it now, thanks! | 15:06 |
spotz[m] | Already corrected one OIF | 15:06 |
fungi | the first paragraph goes straight from virtual ptg to speed mentoring and diversity lunch which were in-person summit, right? | 15:07 |
fungi | i'll see if i can make that less confusing | 15:08 |
fungi | does that edit work for you? | 15:08 |
spotz[m] | Yeah that originally talked how we were hoping for a return to in person and having interactions | 15:08 |
spotz[m] | Slight tweek to blend | 15:10 |
fungi | we can probably just decide to make the wiki edit in paragraph 4 past tense. as soon as we give aprice a thumbs-up on the new web page i'll make the corresponding change in the wiki | 15:11 |
fungi | like, that could be today if we want it to | 15:11 |
spotz[m] | I wasn't sure if you were going to leave them in parallel for a bit, I think that's why I worded like that | 15:12 |
fungi | no reason i can think to | 15:12 |
spotz[m] | Ok | 15:13 |
fungi | i split that up into two bullets too | 15:13 |
fungi | since the charter and new web home were distinct efforts, one was just blocked on the other for months | 15:14 |
spotz[m] | Saw that and fixed the last sentance up some. I reall should have removed my color before we started | 15:14 |
fungi | lgtm, with the assumption that we're telling aprice to go ahead with adding the new diversity page to the site navigation menus now | 15:17 |
fungi | i wonder if we can be more precise with the description of the coc edits in the first bullet | 15:20 |
fungi | do you recall details? it's been so long my memory is fuzzy, but i can dig up the earlier discussions or redline copy | 15:21 |
spotz[m] | We combined the regular and event ones, added bullying, gave more examples | 15:22 |
fungi | aha, right | 15:22 |
fungi | probably the combining is relevant, i'll see if i can work that in | 15:22 |
fungi | maybe that? i'm still not 100% on the wording but maybe it's good enough | 15:26 |
spotz[m] | Let me put an attempt underneath and see if that's better | 15:28 |
fungi | yeah, my struggle was with finding a way to incorporate those details without making it longer/more wordy than the other bullet lines | 15:30 |
fungi | so focusing on outcomes rather than process | 15:30 |
spotz[m] | I'm longer:) | 15:30 |
spotz[m] | See what you think | 15:30 |
fungi | i'm okay with it, though i don't think we need to explain how we got there, just where it ended up (the other bullets are all strictly about outcomes) | 15:31 |
fungi | that the wg worked on making those things happen through appropriate channels is implicit since it's our report | 15:32 |
spotz[m] | Ok tweaked | 15:32 |
fungi | lgtm, thanks | 15:33 |
spotz[m] | We're a good team:) | 15:33 |
fungi | where i got stuck on wording is that it's technically not an updated code of conduct because it's replacing multiple former codes of conduct | 15:33 |
fungi | but i suppose that nuance isn't ultimately important | 15:33 |
spotz[m] | Allison and Kristin could tweak as well:) | 15:34 |
fungi | of course! | 15:34 |
fungi | doesn't look like kristin is in here, but i can ping her through other media | 15:35 |
spotz[m] | Ok lets move on to Open Floor if there's anything? If not we can close out for today and I'll get this sent off | 15:35 |
fungi | sounds good | 15:35 |
spotz[m] | I'll CC you | 15:36 |
fungi | perfect | 15:36 |
spotz[m] | Ok let's close this out, and I'll see you in the new year if not before! | 15:36 |
spotz[m] | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Dec 12 15:36:43 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:36 |
opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2023/diversity_wg.2023-12-12-15.02.html | 15:36 |
opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2023/diversity_wg.2023-12-12-15.02.txt | 15:36 |
opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2023/diversity_wg.2023-12-12-15.02.log.html | 15:36 |
fungi | ah, i was going to ask whether we should officially agree to ask aprice to make the site live, but seems we have consensus so i'll simply do it | 15:37 |
spotz[m] | Oh yeah go for it! | 15:37 |
fungi | was just waiting for the topic change which didn't come ;) | 15:37 |
spotz[m] | It's always easy when it's just us deciding | 15:37 |
spotz[m] | Ha! | 15:37 |
fungi | on it | 15:37 |
spotz[m] | I need breakfast! | 15:37 |
fungi | i've updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Diversity to simply link to https://openinfra.dev/about/diversity now | 15:46 |
spotz[m] | Thank you!!! | 16:31 |
fungi | spotz[m]: as of moments ago, there is a new "Diversity & Inclusion Initiatives" link in the footer of all https://openinfra.dev/ pages | 22:48 |
spotz[m] | fungi: Sweet we're famous:) | 23:13 |
fungi | fame before fortune, i guess | 23:17 |
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