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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible: Initial security documentation https://review.openstack.org/231151 | 03:40 |
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| odyssey4me | mattt http://bit.ly/openstack-ansible-review-dashboard | 06:20 |
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| odyssey4me | blast, that didn't work properly, try this instead: https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/?foreach=%28project%3A%5Eopenstack%2Fopenstack%2Dansible.%2A%29%0Astatus%3Aopen%0ANOT+owner%3Aself%0ANOT+label%3AWorkflow%3C%3D%2D1%0Alabel%3AVerified%3E%3D1%2Cjenkins%0ANOT+label%3ACode%2DReview%3E%3D0%2Cself&title=OpenStack%2DAnsible+Review+Inbox&Reviews+Requested+by+PTL=starredby%3Ajesse%2Dpretorius&Needs+Feedback+%28Chang | 06:28 |
| odyssey4me | es+older+than+5+days+that+have+not+been+reviewed+by+anyone%29=NOT+label%3ACode%2DReview%3C%3D2+age%3A5d&You+are+a+reviewer+but+haven%27t+voted+in+the+current+revision=NOT+label%3ACode%2DReview%3C%3D2%2Cself+reviewer%3Aself&Needs+final+%2B2=label%3ACode%2DReview%3E%3D2+limit%3A50+NOT+label%3ACode%2DReview%3C%3D%2D1%2Cself&Passed+Jenkins%2C+No+Negative+Feedback=NOT+label%3ACode%2DReview%3E%3D2+NOT+label%3ACode%2DReview | 06:28 |
| odyssey4me | %3C%3D%2D1+limit%3A50&Wayward+Changes+%28Changes+with+no+code+review+in+the+last+2days%29=NOT+label%3ACode%2DReview%3C%3D2+age%3A2d | 06:28 |
| odyssey4me | ugh | 06:28 |
| odyssey4me | mattt https://goo.gl/03qZPi | 06:29 |
| mattt | nice! | 06:30 |
| mattt | this is very good | 06:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add minor upgrade documentation to the install guide https://review.openstack.org/231078 | 06:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Ensure cinder container udev line isn't duplicated https://review.openstack.org/231154 | 06:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Set cinder_service_region to service_region by default https://review.openstack.org/231339 | 06:56 |
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| stevelle | +1 good dashboard odyssey4me | 07:04 |
| odyssey4me | :) stevelle hopefully it can focus our attention a little better | 07:04 |
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| odyssey4me | any improvement suggestions are welcome | 07:04 |
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| mattt | odyssey4me: can you run tox -e <x> on your laptop? i'm running a pretty old version of os x so not sure if my grep is outdated :P | 10:53 |
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| gparaskevas | mattt: quck question, when using cinder with ceph do we still need cinder-volume? | 11:35 |
| gparaskevas | mattt: better, do we need to install cinder-volume on every ceph host? With lvm i installed cinder volume on every lvm machine, now with ceph what should i do? | 11:36 |
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| mattt | gparaskevas: you do still need cinder-volume if you'll be using cinder to attach ceph volumes | 11:38 |
| mattt | gparaskevas: since you're not controlling a local resource like LVM you can run it on your controller(s) | 11:38 |
| mattt | gparaskevas: also you can run it inside a container since it doesn't need to access the physical disk like it would if you were using lvm | 11:39 |
| gparaskevas | mattt: thats my point... so i can have it with bare_metal=false and on controller | 11:39 |
| mattt | gparaskevas: yeah | 11:39 |
| gparaskevas | mattt: thank you so much thats what i thought! | 11:40 |
| gparaskevas | mattt: you were very helpfull | 11:40 |
| mattt | gparaskevas: there is one caveat (kinda) | 11:40 |
| gparaskevas | mattt: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/en.futurama/images/d/da/Fry_Looking_Squint.jpg/revision/latest/zoom-crop/width/240/height/240?cb=20110701192358 | 11:40 |
| mattt | gparaskevas: the cinder volume service by default is not HA, meaning each instance manages a set of volumes | 11:41 |
| mattt | gparaskevas: so if you have multiple and 1 goes down, the volumes that were managed by that cinder volume service will not be usable through cinder until the service is back up | 11:41 |
| mattt | gparaskevas: obviously the volume will still be up and attached etc. but you won't be able to delete it through cinder, or back it up, or whatever | 11:42 |
| gparaskevas | mattt: ok good to know that! | 11:43 |
| mattt | gparaskevas: https://memecrunch.com/meme/WKFT/u-can-do-it/image.png?w=400&c=1 | 11:46 |
| gparaskevas | mattt: lol! | 11:46 |
| mattt | :) | 11:48 |
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| mhayden | mornin' | 12:07 |
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| mattt | morning2u majo | 12:12 |
| mattt | *mhayden | 12:12 |
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| mhayden | mattt: you can call me majo if you wish | 12:12 |
| mattt | mhayden: tab complete fail :P | 12:12 |
| mhayden | mattt: i made a super tiny review for you yesterday https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231165/ | 12:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Major Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add OS detection in scripts-library.sh https://review.openstack.org/231448 | 12:23 |
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| gparaskevas | mattt: Hey matt i changed is_metal = false in os_cinder/defaults/main.yml but i cannot see cinder_volume container being created. | 12:35 |
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| mattt | gparaskevas: ah no that has to go in /etc/openstack_deploy/env.d/cinder.yml | 12:37 |
| gparaskevas | mattt: damn i am stupid! | 12:38 |
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| mattt | gparaskevas: nah it's all slightly confusing :-/ | 12:39 |
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| gparaskevas | mattt: i had seen it thats why i am harsh on me! Thanks again! | 12:42 |
| mattt | gparaskevas: any time | 12:42 |
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| cloudnull | morning | 13:46 |
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| odyssey4me | fyi - OpenStack-Ansible Core Reviewer Dashboard: https://goo.gl/03qZPi (any suggestions for improvement welcome) | 13:53 |
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| tiagogomes_ | Hi, I am having problems again with rabbitmq. If one rabbitmq node is down, things stop working: Stopping all nodes on master shutdown since no synchronised slave is available | 14:07 |
| tiagogomes_ | I wonder if I need to tweak cluster_partition_handling | 14:07 |
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| gparaskevas | did the rackspace repo become enormous lately?i rememeber that the clone proccess wasnt too long... | 14:48 |
| gparaskevas | its about two GB now | 14:48 |
| gparaskevas | was it like that always cannot remeber | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Erik Wilson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Archive Keystone to Keystone Federation rst content https://review.openstack.org/211747 | 15:01 |
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| mattt | gparaskevas: which repo is this? | 15:11 |
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| evrardjp | hello everyone | 15:13 |
| mattt | evrardjp: howdy | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | I'm finally available for today \o/ (too bad it's the end of the working day here) | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | I have an issue that I'd like to solve, which is really not that much important now, but will become another problem later... | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | if one of my customers downloads his rc file, everything is fine, except keystone: he can't do with his cli an "openstack user list" | 15:15 |
| gparaskevas | mattt: if i am not mistaken ->rpc-repo.rackspace.com | 15:15 |
| evrardjp | because at some point the client redirects to openstack internal url | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | is that a normal behavior? how will that work with federated openstack when customer can be admin of its domain? | 15:16 |
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| mattt | gparaskevas: yeah that will continue to grow in size, you're better off building stuff locally so you only have what you need | 15:24 |
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| evrardjp | openid connect! | 15:31 |
| alextricity | evrardjp: What's the question you had about federation? | 15:36 |
| alextricity | Are you asking what happens if a user on the identity provider wants to have the admin role? | 15:37 |
| lbragstad | cloudnull: yaprt 0.4.3 is the version with constraint support built in, right? Actually, once this merges - https://github.com/cloudnull/yaprt/pull/11 ? | 15:37 |
| evrardjp | alextricity: yeah it's about domains management | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | if you have multiple idps, you can use each idp in its own domain | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | (purely suppositions, I didn't try it yet) | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | and so I guess you can have a role that is like an admin for its domain | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | the users mapped with this role should be able to manage users | 15:40 |
| evrardjp | so have access to keystone CLI | 15:40 |
| evrardjp | right? | 15:40 |
| alextricity | That's sounds right. So long as you have the federation mappings set up correctly, that would work | 15:40 |
| alextricity | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/mapping_combinations.html | 15:40 |
| evrardjp | so I guess I'll hit an issue | 15:41 |
| alextricity | I don't know how far along the federation authenticate using the CLI is | 15:41 |
| evrardjp | because keystone/openstack cli (keystone part) | 15:41 |
| alextricity | I think it's still a WIP in upstream keystone | 15:41 |
| evrardjp | use internal ip for me | 15:41 |
| evrardjp | yeah it doesn't work with cli | 15:42 |
| evrardjp | right | 15:42 |
| palendae | alextricity: Yeah, pretty sure it is. miguelgrinberg wrote a blog post about our attempts to make federationw ork | 15:42 |
| alextricity | Right now we are stuck with string up cURL | 15:42 |
| evrardjp | I remember reading that somewhere palendae | 15:42 |
| palendae | https://developer.rackspace.com/blog/keystone-to-keystone-federation-with-openstack-ansible/ | 15:42 |
| alextricity | s/string/straight | 15:43 |
| palendae | I wasn't really involved in that effort, but I know CLI support for federation was a big issue | 15:43 |
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| evrardjp | like for EVERY app using federation | 15:44 |
| evrardjp | SAML2 was meant for clients using browsers, not for robots! | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | (sad but true) | 15:45 |
| alextricity | lol | 15:45 |
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| evrardjp | so alextricity, could you confirm that normal behaviour of openstack CLI for keystone matters is to use the internal url? (project list/user list/...) | 15:52 |
| evrardjp | and so this shouldn't be handled to end-user? | 15:52 |
| evrardjp | that's what I think first | 15:53 |
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| alextricity | evrardjp: Hmmm....is the CLI using the internal url even though you have OS_AUTH_URL to a public url? | 15:55 |
| evrardjp | indeed | 15:57 |
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| alextricity | You need to have the public_endpoint set in keystone.conf. Do you have that? | 15:58 |
| evrardjp | after a POST /v2.0/tokens (200) I have a GET <internal IP>/v3 | 15:59 |
| evrardjp | alextricity: yup, on the public url | 15:59 |
| alextricity | hmm..on my environment it takes me to my public endpoint | 16:00 |
| alextricity | Making authentication request to http://<public_endpoint>:5000/v3/auth/tokens | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | do you mind dropping a openstack -debug project list on a private pastebin? (with passwords and ip removed if needed) | 16:00 |
| alextricity | sure | 16:01 |
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| palendae | Bug triage? | 16:01 |
| palendae | Is odyssey4me out? | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | ok palendae | 16:01 |
| odyssey4me | back now - so many meetings :p | 16:02 |
| d34dh0r53 | BUG TRIAGE TIME | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | quick question before the bug triage, when should we vote for odyssey4me? | 16:02 |
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| evrardjp | it's supposed to be soon, right? | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | or we can do that afterwards | 16:02 |
| d34dh0r53 | when will then be now? | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | d34dh0r53 are you ready for bug triage? | 16:03 |
| d34dh0r53 | I think so | 16:03 |
| d34dh0r53 | do we have an answer to evrardjp's question? | 16:03 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp vote for? | 16:03 |
| palendae | Vote for him as PTL? That's done :p | 16:04 |
| stevelle | running as sole candidate means no vote | 16:04 |
| stevelle | doesn't it? | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | lol, yeah - you guys are stuck with me :p | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | stevelle: I didn't know it meant no vote | 16:04 |
| d34dh0r53 | I for one welcome our new overlord | 16:04 |
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| odyssey4me | fyi, for anyone interested - here's a core code review dashboard: https://goo.gl/03qZPi (improvement requests welcome) | 16:04 |
| palendae | Very nice | 16:05 |
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| evrardjp | really nice! | 16:05 |
| d34dh0r53 | so without further adieu the first bug on the list is https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1501168 | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501168 in openstack-ansible "ops-galera-recovery.rst inaccurate" [Undecided,New] | 16:07 |
| palendae | Ah, yeah, galera bootstrap disappeared in Kilo | 16:07 |
| d34dh0r53 | ok, so this is a docs issue? | 16:08 |
| palendae | Yeah, I can take a look | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | so cloudnull suggested that perhaps the functionality could be returned | 16:09 |
| d34dh0r53 | importance? | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | in any case it's not complete: there is no mention of the impact of this command during the recovery | 16:09 |
| palendae | Will have to see what the correct tags are for Kilo+ | 16:09 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: Also a possibility | 16:09 |
| cloudnull | that functionality is returned with the merge of mariadb 10 | 16:09 |
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| odyssey4me | in master now it's back for MariaDB10, so if that functionality could be backported by someone then the doc entry could return to being valid. | 16:09 |
| palendae | Is mariadb10 backported yet? | 16:10 |
| palendae | If not, I've got time open | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | will it and when? that's the more likely question | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | palendae it won't be backported, and shouldn't - but the functionality (not the db version change) can be backported | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | so this commit (docs issue and possible code impact) needs more work... | 16:11 |
| palendae | Yeah | 16:11 |
| palendae | Needs some fleshing out, since we have a few options | 16:11 |
| d34dh0r53 | palendae: you want this one? | 16:11 |
| palendae | And you're right, evrardjp, it doesn't really mention the impact to the cluster | 16:11 |
| palendae | d34dh0r53: Sure | 16:11 |
| d34dh0r53 | you're welcome | 16:12 |
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| d34dh0r53 | next up: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1501029 | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | thanks palendae | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501029 in openstack-ansible "libvirt_vif_driver deprecated beginning Juno" [Undecided,New] | 16:12 |
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| d34dh0r53 | looks like low-hanging-fruit wishlist to me but I'm open to conversation | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | d34dh0r53 yeah, I think it should be linked for master to 12.0.0 at least | 16:16 |
| stevelle | with the log spam I would say low rather than wishlist | 16:16 |
| d34dh0r53 | stevelle: good point | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | we can clean that out for liberty at least, then perhaps backport to kilo and leave it at that | 16:17 |
| d34dh0r53 | ok | 16:17 |
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| odyssey4me | agreed with stevelle | 16:17 |
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| evrardjp | agreed | 16:19 |
| d34dh0r53 | that's it for the new bugs, I see that https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1477175 seems to have other users chiming in | 16:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1477175 in openstack-ansible "Setup-infrastructure error with "NoneType" during Memcached install" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 16:19 |
| d34dh0r53 | not sure if that means we should take a closer look at this or wait for more information | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | still looks incomplete to me | 16:20 |
| d34dh0r53 | ok | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | something I did notice earlier today - I don't think that the pip version is updated during an upgrade | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | (from juno to kilo) | 16:20 |
| stevelle | seems like a basis for additional validation | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | but something that I've definitely seen evidence of in bug reports is that the ansible version for juno seems to not produce expected variables reliably (like the # of cpu's) | 16:21 |
| Apsu | That's weird. | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | that said, this report is of 'openstack_user_config' - so it's possibly an early kilo install | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | self.ipv6 = ':' in self.host ??? | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: was this changed? I'm still using that | 16:23 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp nope, just me being silly and mixing up file names... I'm thinking about the environment file | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | almost had my daily heart attack | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | made you think twice though :p | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | ;) | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | I was not believing and was already browsing to etc/ ;) | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | anyway | 16:25 |
| d34dh0r53 | welp, that's is for the bugs on the list, anyone have a specific bug they would like to talk about? | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | d34dh0r53: it seems incomplete with latest input 2 months ago, shouldn't we close? | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | (still talking about 1477175) | 16:26 |
| d34dh0r53 | I'll leave that up to odyssey4me | 16:26 |
| stevelle | Sam-I-Am: is this an error you have seen folks ask about in irc? | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | d34dh0r53 it'll expire automatically if there's no feedback for 60 days on an incomplete bug | 16:27 |
| d34dh0r53 | odyssey4me: ok | 16:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | stevelle: uhh, wasnt listening here | 16:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | stevelle: what was the problem? | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: unless ppl bump on it, like it was done here :p | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp discussion there is fine - well picked up d34dh0r53 | 16:29 |
| stevelle | Sam-I-Am: OSA bug 1477175 | 16:29 |
| openstack | bug 1477175 in openstack-ansible "Setup-infrastructure error with "NoneType" during Memcached install" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1477175 | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | and thanks d34dh0r53 for running the triage :) | 16:29 |
| d34dh0r53 | odyssey4me: sure thing, thanks all! | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | yeah thank you! | 16:29 |
| stevelle | just seems familiar | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | stevelle: nope, wouldnt see that in upstream because it does not use ansible | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks like some sort of inventory problem | 16:30 |
| stevelle | yeah and I seem to recall you diagnosing folks having inventory problems and pointing them at their openstack_user_config | 16:30 |
| stevelle | wasn't sure if that was a similar message or not | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | stevelle: many issues with memcached are just inventory problem | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | problems* | 16:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | in here or in #openstack ? | 16:31 |
| stevelle | I think it would have been here | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | it just appears there because it's the first playbook to run in setup-infra | 16:31 |
| odyssey4me | stevelle yeah, there were issues about ssh connectivity failures to the memcache containers | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | you might have your wires crossed :) | 16:32 |
| stevelle | I'm thinking an FAQ for new folks might call that error out for that reason so folks know to check their inventory | 16:32 |
| palendae | stevelle: A good idea, though ansible isn't particularly helpful when it comes to errors | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | I think it would be good to not link an error directly (because it can have many forms) | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | but instead advise to use linters | 16:32 |
| palendae | I spent a good error trying to figure out why it thought my variables, written in "{{ var }}" format was wrong | 16:33 |
| palendae | Turns out it was whitespace | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, I do agree with evrardjp that perhaps some sort of config validation would provide better value | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | palendae: would a YAML linter have helped you? | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | wasn't sigmavirus24 working on something like that? | 16:34 |
| palendae | evrardjp: Probably, though I'm not sure the "{{ }}" syntax is YAML | 16:34 |
| palendae | He was | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | we could also combine that with a good practice/checklist when asking for help: checking the open bugs/pasting a complete inventory/... | 16:34 |
| palendae | A schema validator for our configs | 16:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | odyssey4me: github.com/sigmavirus24/schema-validator | 16:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | check the kilo directory of the examples directory | 16:35 |
| palendae | This was in a playbook though | 16:35 |
| palendae | evrardjp: I'd settle for Ansible being a little smarter. That may be on PyYAML though, not sure | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | awesome | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | palendae agreed, although is that more of a developer concern than a deployer concern? | 16:36 |
| evrardjp | nothing prevents us to improve ansible :) | 16:36 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: Totally | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp ++ | 16:36 |
| palendae | evrardjp: Time :) | 16:36 |
| evrardjp | but I was focusing on helping the deployer have a better impression | 16:37 |
| palendae | Yes | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | and improving our speed to help them if they join on the chan | 16:37 |
| palendae | Agreed; fixing up our configs and a checklist for that woudl help | 16:37 |
| palendae | A couple weeks ago I helped someone with a really fun issue - their config file was all correct, except their editor inserted color codes on some of the semicolons | 16:37 |
| palendae | So reading it, it's absolutely fine | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | a little birdie in my head is telling me that if we need a schema validator, then perhaps what we're asking some people to do is too hard :p | 16:38 |
| evrardjp | I helped someone with ^M on EOLs | 16:38 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: That config file has become super unwieldy for sure | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | oh wow, control characters in a config | 16:38 |
| palendae | I have not given much thought to reducing the surface area yet | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | wow | 16:38 |
| palendae | Yeah | 16:39 |
| palendae | Those are touch | 16:39 |
| palendae | tough* | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: no, maybe the tool we are using is not resilient enough | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | palendae so I agree that we have too much complexity in some spaces - but with great power comes great responsibility | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | but in ANY case it will be solved if we let ppl manage inventory the way they want | 16:39 |
| palendae | Also true | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | most of the time I think that people hit these issues because they think they need to do things that they don't | 16:39 |
| palendae | Sure | 16:40 |
| palendae | We can be better about communicating what we do and assume, though | 16:40 |
| evrardjp | it's just a problem about documenting IMHO | 16:40 |
| evrardjp | not really a problem (that's a too big word) | 16:40 |
| evrardjp | just a possible improvement | 16:40 |
| palendae | Opportunity for growth | 16:40 |
| odyssey4me | we can take a lot of the perceived complexity away through the use of http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/install-guide/configure-openstack.html | 16:40 |
| evrardjp | palendae: nicely said! | 16:40 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: Sure, that basically nullifies a large swath of our config options | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | we can also do a lot more to simplify and reduce the code base to make it more obvious where things are being done and how they're being done | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | still, openstack doesn't magically installs itself the way the deployers wants it, so he needs to learn how to work with openstack-ansible :) | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | we've all done it, so it proves it's doable ;) | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp agreed - but openstack itself is complex, whereas openstack-ansible can be simpler | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | I'd rather that people use openstack-ansible to simplify their lives while they're figuring out how to better use openstack | 16:42 |
| palendae | Worthy goal | 16:43 |
| palendae | We shouldn't paper over OpenStack too much | 16:43 |
| palendae | You should understand openstack, and use openstack-ansible to automate things | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | plus I think that Sam-I-Am would love to point more people to openstack-ansible instead of helping them install openstack manually :p | 16:43 |
| evrardjp | I agree on that, and I think YAML isn't hard | 16:43 |
| palendae | evrardjp: No, but it can have sharp edges | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | so perhaps a schema validator should be integrated as a check step into the 'openstack-ansible' command line? | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | \ | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | or just provided as a tool? | 16:44 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: I wondered that myself | 16:45 |
| evrardjp | I think it's too much effort for the value, but that's just my opinion | 16:45 |
| palendae | I like being integrated cause some things our roles assume will be there | 16:45 |
| evrardjp | I'd rather improve the doc | 16:45 |
| evrardjp | I'll help with that | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | I'm kinda thinking we should integrate it, perhaps with a CLI option to skip it - but the default is to validate first. | 16:45 |
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| palendae | I'm of that opinion, too, I think; the machine should help | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:46 |
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| evrardjp | do you mind if I change the doc anyway? just to see if there will be an improvement? | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp of course - more doc improvements are welcome :) | 16:47 |
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| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 cloudnull we need to chat about https://review.openstack.org/221957 briefly | 16:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | odyssey4me: want to chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221957/? | 16:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | lol | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | so, some background: | 16:53 |
| odyssey4me | in kilo the AIO is already resource starved - but it mostly passes the gate check as it stands | 16:54 |
| odyssey4me | with the RC updates for Liberty it passes once in maybe 10 checks | 16:54 |
| odyssey4me | dropping the affinity results in a reliable pass | 16:55 |
| odyssey4me | ideally we should break the gate out, as set out in https://review.openstack.org/221009 (which still needs a final vote) - but we had hoped to get Liberty through the door before that | 16:55 |
| odyssey4me | especially since the gate split is a significant body of work, whereas releasing a basically functional Liberty is a SHA update | 16:56 |
| odyssey4me | I am absolutely in agreement with reducing the affinity also reducing the code paths tested - which is undesirable. | 16:56 |
| odyssey4me | I would like to find a resolution to what we can do here. | 16:57 |
| sigmavirus24 | So it also sounded like the gate split was not getting backported to kilo | 16:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | *liberty | 16:58 |
| odyssey4me | We either need to reduce some affinity, or reduce resource usage somewhere else in a significant enough way that we can get a passing master gate to help us enact the structural changes and get on with splitting the gate after Liberty is released. | 16:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm okay with lowering the affinity *temporarily* | 16:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | I don't think it's optimal in the slightest if this becomes a long-term thing though | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | I'm off for today, my questions about how voting works will be for tomorrow ;) | 16:58 |
| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 The gate split might even go back to Kilo, but I am definitely in favour of it going back to Liberty. | 16:59 |
| evrardjp | good luck with gate work and affinity! | 16:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | thanks evrardjp | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | o/ evrardjp have a great evening! | 16:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | have a good rest of the day evrardjp | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 I'd like to get Liberty through the door, then split the gate. I'd like to then backport the gate split to Liberty and propose that it also go back into Kilo once it's stabilised and is proving more reliable. | 17:00 |
| odyssey4me | so yes, the reduction of affinity is most definitely temporary | 17:01 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: whats up ? | 17:01 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull just explaining my thinking regarding https://review.openstack.org/221957 to sigmavirus24 | 17:01 |
| cloudnull | ok | 17:02 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull are you of the same mind as what I've explained above? | 17:02 |
| * cloudnull reading back | 17:02 | |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me: i like sigmavirus24 am of the mind set that lowering the affinity to break up the gate is ok. we need to make sure that we're testing all available code pathss which affinity gives for now. | 17:05 |
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| cloudnull | if we're breaking up the gate, id say that our first gate break outs should be the items that have affinity set. | 17:05 |
| odyssey4me | yup, absolutely a temporary thing to help us get liberty through the door - next focus area for me will be the gate split | 17:06 |
| cloudnull | and in the mean time maybe we have a periodic job that reports back to openstack-qa that does a full run like we have now. | 17:06 |
| cloudnull | so that will give up a nightly all the things run | 17:06 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull right now that would just fail | 17:07 |
| cloudnull | just so that we lessen the potential we dont miss things as we're in the process of breaking things up/ | 17:07 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: how ? | 17:07 |
| cloudnull | we can do full gate jobs . | 17:07 |
| cloudnull | we move that to periodic | 17:07 |
| odyssey4me | the work in https://review.openstack.org/221009 can be done in pretty short order though - I've already done some experiementation | 17:07 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull the gate split is not a repo aplit | 17:08 |
| palendae | cloudnull: Are periodic jobs allowed access to bigger instances? | 17:08 |
| odyssey4me | the gate split will implement many more code path tests | 17:08 |
| palendae | I thought they were still performance1-8s | 17:08 |
| odyssey4me | palendae nope | 17:08 |
| cloudnull | im not talking about a repo split. | 17:08 |
| cloudnull | i saying that we lower the affinity in our normal gate. | 17:08 |
| cloudnull | and have a periodic job that has it set to what we have now. | 17:09 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull yeah, but what we have now fails as soon as we update the sha's to liberty | 17:09 |
| odyssey4me | the only other compromise is to reduce affinity for the things that matter less to us | 17:09 |
| odyssey4me | but then we have to decide what matters less | 17:10 |
| cloudnull | aren't the shas are on liberty now? | 17:10 |
| odyssey4me | liberty-3 only | 17:10 |
| cloudnull | everything except horizon i thought? | 17:10 |
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| cloudnull | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228385/ | 17:11 |
| cloudnull | that's working . | 17:11 |
| odyssey4me | yes, dependent on lowering the affinity | 17:11 |
| cloudnull | ah | 17:11 |
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| odyssey4me | So I'm thinking that the Liberty SHA update is easy pickings. | 17:13 |
| odyssey4me | Ideally we should get it out of the door with the policy and config updates too - that needs some focus. | 17:13 |
| odyssey4me | but I can't get decent results right now due to resource starvation, so I'm just spinning wheels | 17:14 |
| odyssey4me | we can lower the number of processes & threads used by all the services | 17:15 |
| odyssey4me | but the real hogs are the MariaDB and RabbitMQ clusters | 17:15 |
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| cloudnull | ok. well lets set it to 1 on all things but once we do that we're losing some important coverage . | 17:16 |
| odyssey4me | yep, which is why I'd like to get on with the gate split asap after Liberty | 17:17 |
| cloudnull | maybe we setup some temp gates to do keystone only install | 17:19 |
| cloudnull | with a galera cluster | 17:19 |
| cloudnull | or just a galera cluster/rabbitmq install | 17:19 |
| odyssey4me | for now I'm thinking that we still have a full AIO for kilo, which is reasonable coverage | 17:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible: Small typo correction missing double quote https://review.openstack.org/231511 | 17:20 |
| odyssey4me | we can also test thoroughly in development using larger spec AIO's | 17:20 |
| odyssey4me | the development of a gate check for the galera cluster and the rabbit cluster is all part of the gate check | 17:21 |
| odyssey4me | -split | 17:21 |
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| scarlisle | sorry cloudnull, I had to add a comment on patch set 19 | 18:33 |
| scarlisle | cinder-adjustments.yml will always fail if cinder is running on bare metal | 18:34 |
| scarlisle | and moving to bare metal is a pre-req for the upgrade (according to the docs) | 18:35 |
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| palendae | scarlisle, cloudnull: Yeah, may be better to detect if it's in a container...I'd personally rather the Juno defaults were changed, but I get why they're not | 19:18 |
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| cloudnull | scarlisle: so the script died in that part ? | 19:21 |
| scarlisle | cloudnull yessir | 19:21 |
| scarlisle | manually running the stuff after that and so far that's going well | 19:22 |
| cloudnull | we're the cinder-volume containers removed from inventory prior to running the upgrade? | 19:22 |
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| scarlisle | I tweaked the reinstall of 10.1.15 such that it never created cinder_volume containers | 19:24 |
| cloudnull | *were the ? | 19:24 |
| cloudnull | ok. | 19:24 |
| scarlisle | but inventory is putting the bare metal hosts in the cinder_volumes inventory groups | 19:24 |
| palendae | Which should be correct | 19:26 |
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| cloudnull | scarlisle: when you get done, if you can repull that patchset and run the cinder-adjustments.yml play by itself ? | 19:28 |
| cloudnull | it should simply skip | 19:29 |
| cloudnull | when there are no containers | 19:29 |
| scarlisle | will do | 19:33 |
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| scarlisle | ah, I see what you did there | 19:36 |
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| scarlisle | OK, just to update, everything runs successfully after the cinder-adjustments.yml playbook. Gonna checkout the latest patch set and re-run that playbook | 19:56 |
| scarlisle | aaaaand it skips | 19:58 |
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| lbragstad | Apsu: do you have a link to your dotfiles + z shell video? | 20:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | lbragstad: prezto is the zsh framework that Apsu uses | 20:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | + powerline for vim/tmux iirc | 20:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | There were other things there too but they were around making tmux bindings slightly different/more better | 20:21 |
| * sigmavirus24 is probably forgetting things | 20:21 | |
| lbragstad | sigmavirus24: awesome, thanks! a co-worker was looking for something along those lines and i remember Apsu having a tutorial on it | 20:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yeah I dont' know if that's still posted anywhere but it was more of a "here's how my laptop is setup" | 20:22 |
| * sigmavirus24 uses prezto on his personal laptop but doesn't care enough about the work laptop to set things up appropriately | 20:22 | |
| Apsu | Prezto, powerline, zsh, tmux, vim, yes | 20:22 |
| lbragstad | awesome, thanks! | 20:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | no one around here happens to have good documentation (read any) for TripleO, eh? | 20:23 |
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| Apsu | https://gist.github.com/Apsu/ba2055d69643b6c4ac29 this was my config back when | 20:28 |
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| cloudnull | sigmavirus24_awa: thanks for the reviews on the patches today. | 23:27 |
| cloudnull | im out, have a good night. | 23:27 |
| stevelle | gnite | 23:28 |
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