odyssey4me | jmccrory yeah, there's a ton of work to be done in actually making it functional | 00:00 |
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jmccrory | yeah think should be left for functional testing. anyway, looks good otherwise, +2 when jenkins comes back | 00:01 |
odyssey4me | initially I actually want to target not using standalone mode, because the team working on this wants to merge it into the integrated build asap | 00:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_aodh: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch https://review.openstack.org/297460 | 00:03 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ceilometer: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch https://review.openstack.org/297462 | 00:04 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch https://review.openstack.org/297463 | 00:04 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch https://review.openstack.org/297464 | 00:04 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch https://review.openstack.org/297465 | 00:04 |
odyssey4me | alright, I'm out for the weekend | 00:07 |
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odyssey4me | have a great day tomorrow - I hope that someone can figure out the glance_store/swift/keystonev3 auth issue so that we can move beyond it | 00:07 |
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odyssey4me | have a good weekend though, I'll be back on Tue | 00:08 |
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odyssey4me | mattt sigmavirus24_awa I've created a bug for the Keystone v3 API / glance_store / Swift issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1561947 | 10:52 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1561947 in openstack-ansible "Glance Store fails to authenticate to Swift with Keystone v3 API" [Critical,Confirmed] | 10:52 |
odyssey4me | Please add more details to the bug if you discover anything useful. | 10:53 |
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cloudnull | morning | 13:22 |
admin0 | morning | 13:22 |
admin0 | my ceph integration playbook went OK | 13:22 |
admin0 | now checking :F | 13:22 |
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cloudnull | sweet! | 13:28 |
admin0 | ceph df .. glance-images 10 12976k :) | 13:40 |
admin0 | glance is good | 13:40 |
admin0 | testing cinder and then nova | 13:40 |
admin0 | after that, will break this env completely and re-do from stractch .. | 13:41 |
automagically | morning | 13:41 |
admin0 | morning ? | 13:41 |
admin0 | hangover ;) ? | 13:41 |
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admin0 | glance images and nova ephemeral-vms working fine .. | 13:46 |
admin0 | cidner something wrong, fixing | 13:46 |
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admin0 | \o/ cinder also working :D | 14:05 |
admin0 | cinder backup left to test :) | 14:05 |
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admin0 | if I remove the is_metal flag when using ceph, i cannot mix another is_metal storage right ? | 14:07 |
admin0 | like if i want to do ceph + lvm dual offering ? | 14:08 |
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admin0 | cinder_service_backup_ceph_pool: cinder-backup | 14:13 |
admin0 | waht do I need to do to test (have ceph ) write to this pool ? | 14:13 |
admin0 | sorry .. i mean cinder | 14:13 |
admin0 | when does cinder use that pool ? | 14:13 |
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admin0 | cinder snapshot does not write there . . what writes to that pool ? | 14:14 |
logan- | cinder-backup service if you deploy it. it is a separate service from cinder volumes/snapshots | 14:14 |
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logan- | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/liberty/playbooks/roles/os_cinder/defaults/main.yml#L108-L133 | 14:17 |
admin0 | \o/ | 14:25 |
admin0 | doing a complete redo once more and will then update the blog | 14:26 |
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pjm6 | Hi there | 14:40 |
automagically | hey pjm6 | 14:40 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible: Fix doc build warnings https://review.openstack.org/297370 | 14:41 |
pjm6 | everythings good? :) | 14:41 |
automagically | Indeed | 14:41 |
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pjm6 | nice :D | 14:43 |
cloudnull | ohai pjm6 automagically | 14:48 |
pjm6 | hi cloudnull | 14:48 |
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admin0 | logan: cinder_service_backup_compression_algorithm: zlib — is this valid for ceph as well ? | 15:43 |
admin0 | logan-: ^^ :D | 15:43 |
logan- | not sure i don't use cinder-backup. ceph doesn't do any compression but it might be a feature of the cinder-backup service | 15:44 |
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admin0 | ok :) | 15:47 |
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cloudnull | admin0 If i remember right, the cinder-backup service will create an archive of your device and store it where you've configed the osa default is swift | 16:04 |
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spotz | o/ - kinda late | 16:07 |
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winggundamth_ | hi. I'm going to deploy on our production now after a month lab test. I have some questions again :) | 16:14 |
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winggundamth_ | is it possible to have multiple br-vlan interface on difference bond? like br-vlan-1, br-vlan-2 | 16:14 |
kysse | why? | 16:14 |
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winggundamth_ | we plan to use vlan for both external and internal so we want to separate interface between both | 16:15 |
cloudnull | winggundamth_: yes | 16:16 |
cloudnull | now, does that mean you have that many interfaces though ? | 16:16 |
cloudnull | 1 bond is normally 2 interfaces at a minimum | 16:17 |
cloudnull | you'd likely be better off using vlan tagged interfaces on a 10Gb adapter | 16:17 |
cloudnull | then you put your vlan tagged devices into the bridges | 16:17 |
winggundamth_ | cloudnull: yes. we have like 4 x 10gb | 16:18 |
winggundamth_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/491917/ so configuration like this should do the trick right? | 16:18 |
winggundamth_ | just wonder when I put more container interface like eth12, eth13 and so on. it shouldn't have a problem on both neutron and nova nodes right? | 16:19 |
cloudnull | yes that look fine | 16:32 |
cloudnull | no issues with that at all | 16:32 |
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cloudnull | thoes additional interfaces will be in the neutron-agent container. | 16:32 |
winggundamth_ | cloudnull: nice thanks. I'll let you know the result when I deploy with this configuration on Monday | 16:32 |
cloudnull | cool | 16:32 |
winggundamth_ | found that one of our server broken and need to replace part on Monday :( | 16:33 |
cloudnull | thats a bummer | 16:34 |
winggundamth_ | another question. can we do neutron vrrp with 2 nodes? because we have 2 dedicated servers for neutron. | 16:34 |
cloudnull | yes you can | 16:34 |
winggundamth_ | nice | 16:34 |
winggundamth_ | I think my last question would be storage_hosts. from example configuration it will deploy on only 1 node so this is the single point of failure? | 16:36 |
cloudnull | it is | 16:36 |
cloudnull | storage host being cinder. | 16:37 |
winggundamth_ | it's cinder-volume right | 16:37 |
cloudnull | if you use cinder + lvm as the backend its a single point of failure | 16:37 |
winggundamth_ | we are using ceph. is it still will be single point of failure? | 16:37 |
cloudnull | you can do nfs, ceph, netapp, etc if you need it to be HA | 16:37 |
cloudnull | ah well if the backend is ceph then no. | 16:38 |
winggundamth_ | I think I don't understand much about how storage_hosts related to ceph. or actually I don't need it? | 16:38 |
winggundamth_ | does it means I don't have to deploy storage_hosts when using ceph? | 16:38 |
cloudnull | if you only have one host its a single point of failure in terms of attaching new volumes to a VM or working with the API however your backend is highly available | 16:39 |
* cloudnull is assuming you have a ceph cluster outside of openstack | 16:39 | |
winggundamth_ | we have ceph cluster outside of OpenStack | 16:40 |
cloudnull | so you should be ok with just one storage host. | 16:40 |
winggundamth_ | can you guide me about how storage and nova host related to ceph? how it connect together? | 16:41 |
cloudnull | in fact you will only be using ceph you can make a change here https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/liberty/etc/openstack_deploy/env.d/cinder.yml#L57-L62 | 16:41 |
cloudnull | and set is_metal: false | 16:41 |
cloudnull | that will install the cinder-volume service into a container instead of on the host | 16:41 |
cloudnull | which can then be done on an infra node | 16:42 |
cloudnull | giving you no single point of failure | 16:42 |
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winggundamth_ | does it means I can deploy 3 cinder-volume service on infra nodes right? | 16:42 |
cloudnull | yes. | 16:43 |
cloudnull | just NOT with an lvm backend, it works, but its VERY NOT recommended | 16:43 |
winggundamth_ | no worries. no plan for lvm :) | 16:43 |
cloudnull | regarding ceph setup, I'd have a look at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/search.html?q=ceph&check_keywords=yes&area=default | 16:43 |
cloudnull | im no ceph expert | 16:44 |
winggundamth_ | I'm setup ceph from https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible | 16:44 |
winggundamth_ | it really works well on our lab test | 16:44 |
cloudnull | perfect | 16:44 |
cloudnull | thats what i'd use | 16:44 |
cloudnull | OSA wont deploy ceph . | 16:45 |
cloudnull | we'll just hook into it | 16:45 |
winggundamth_ | so this really perfect match | 16:45 |
winggundamth_ | just want to confirm. if I deploy 3 cinder-volume on infra nodes. Ansible will configure it to sit under haproxy and the other services will connect via haproxy right? | 16:47 |
cloudnull | yup | 16:47 |
cloudnull | just run the haproxy-install play it'll do all the rest for you | 16:47 |
winggundamth_ | :D | 16:47 |
winggundamth_ | I really keen to do it now :( | 16:48 |
winggundamth_ | my configuration is ready but god won't allow me | 16:48 |
cloudnull | ha. the friday hardware gods must be mad with you :) | 16:53 |
cloudnull | time to sacrifice a harddrive | 16:53 |
cloudnull | :p | 16:53 |
winggundamth_ | lol | 16:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Updates all repo SHAs to open up work on Mitaka RC's https://review.openstack.org/296799 | 17:00 |
winggundamth_ | cloudnull: will you at summit austin? | 17:07 |
cloudnull | i will | 17:08 |
cloudnull | you ? | 17:08 |
winggundamth_ | yes :) | 17:08 |
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cloudnull | nice. | 17:10 |
cloudnull | first round is on me :) | 17:10 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch https://review.openstack.org/297464 | 17:10 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch https://review.openstack.org/297463 | 17:11 |
winggundamth_ | haha. I really love this summit since last time I even have no idea at all about how to start with OpenStack | 17:11 |
winggundamth_ | a lot of options on that time until I met OSA | 17:12 |
winggundamth_ | hell yeah :D | 17:12 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_aodh: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch https://review.openstack.org/297460 | 17:12 |
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winggundamth_ | cloudnull mattt odyssey4me ant the others. just wonder, I see you guys work on OSA all day. So you guys work for the company or your own? | 17:13 |
cloudnull | mattt odyssey4me and I work at Rackspace | 17:13 |
automagically | I work for Comcast | 17:14 |
spotz | Rackspace | 17:14 |
automagically | Other contributors work for Intel and Walmart | 17:14 |
automagically | Among others | 17:14 |
cloudnull | ++ | 17:14 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ceilometer: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch https://review.openstack.org/297462 | 17:14 |
winggundamth_ | so you mean OSA is your job? | 17:14 |
winggundamth_ | I mean full time job for the company | 17:15 |
cloudnull | I work for the Rackspace Private Cloud, and we use OSA for our deployments | 17:15 |
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cloudnull | so yes, kinda. | 17:15 |
cloudnull | a lot of the time im contributing away from work | 17:16 |
cloudnull | because I have issues | 17:16 |
automagically | haha | 17:16 |
winggundamth_ | so what is your other tasks except OSA? like sysadmin or developer? | 17:16 |
spotz | Don't laught automagically he does:) Course I was reviewing last night too:) | 17:16 |
automagically | I do sometimes too | 17:16 |
spotz | I'm a linux engineer, I just help on OSA and a few other projects | 17:17 |
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cloudnull | for me: developer / architecture is my full time | 17:17 |
winggundamth_ | wow. I really envy you guys. doing contribute on open source all day as a job and get paid as well >< | 17:19 |
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winggundamth_ | I wonder sometimes in the future, I will work on company that I get paid from contribute to the open source as my main task as well | 17:21 |
automagically | It is a great opportunity when you can find it | 17:24 |
spotz | I just do it on the side at work and home, not my primary function but I'm a good multitasker | 17:24 |
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winggundamth_ | yeah. not much opportunity in Thailand | 17:28 |
winggundamth_ | I can count no more than 10 Thai contributors on open source project | 17:28 |
winggundamth_ | very famous one is debian developer who did libthai | 17:29 |
spotz | Thailand is .22% https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/c/c9/MemberGeoData-20150903.pdf | 17:35 |
spotz | Not even the lowest % contributer winggundamth_ :) | 17:35 |
winggundamth_ | haha yeah | 17:36 |
winggundamth_ | go to bed now. almost 1am here. will let you know the production deploy result on Monday | 17:41 |
winggundamth_ | bye | 17:41 |
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cloudnull | have a good one | 17:44 |
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SamYaple | cloudnull and "have issues"?! these make no sense together | 17:54 |
cloudnull | what ? | 17:54 |
SamYaple | 17:17:17 < cloudnull> because I have issues | 17:54 |
SamYaple | i am make the jokes | 17:55 |
cloudnull | hahahaha | 17:55 |
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cloudnull | i need the more words | 17:56 |
automagically | I’m in the process of developing an OSA role for Rally, at what point might it make sense to migrate it from https://github.com/trumant/openstack-ansible-os_rally into Gerrit/etc? I’m guessing the process if adding it involves some infra patches and some governance work... | 17:56 |
automagically | Its not even close to done, so definitely not a pressing question, but figured I’d throw it out there now | 17:57 |
cloudnull | automagically: Im keen on getting things into the namespace whenever. | 18:01 |
cloudnull | if the basic stubout works | 18:01 |
cloudnull | we can work on the role making it better via gerrit once there. | 18:01 |
cloudnull | my 2cents | 18:01 |
automagically | k, cool | 18:02 |
SamYaple | hey question. whats OSA policy on new projects? | 18:04 |
SamYaple | by austin summit i plan to have alpha/techpreview ekko with backup and restore only | 18:04 |
SamYaple | wanted to add that into the deployment tools,just wanted to check policies first | 18:05 |
automagically | This seems like a good guide: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html | 18:05 |
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SamYaple | automagically: ekko is already a project | 18:08 |
SamYaple | it is not big tent yet | 18:08 |
SamYaple | that was my question to OSA | 18:08 |
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cloudnull | SamYaple: I'd be _VERY_ keen on getting an Ekko role | 18:09 |
SamYaple | even outside of big tent? | 18:10 |
odyssey4me | automagically you should get in touch with meteorfox who calready has a rally role, although it's dated and needs work - I'm sure he'd be good to collaborate with | 18:10 |
cloudnull | it doesnt have to be bigtent, just OS namespace IMO | 18:10 |
automagically | odyssey4me: Ah thanks | 18:10 |
SamYaple | ok. well id like to do that for you guys | 18:10 |
SamYaple | more people using it == easier time in TC | 18:10 |
cloudnull | ++ | 18:11 |
automagically | I found it: https://github.com/meteorfox/ansible-rally | 18:11 |
SamYaple | 1.0 is expect for newton | 18:11 |
cloudnull | awesome | 18:11 |
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SamYaple | were just about done bikesheeding the design | 18:11 |
SamYaple | code should be rather trivial (other then youre normal bugs) | 18:11 |
SamYaple | man my typing is not having its best day ever | 18:12 |
odyssey4me | SamYaple we can easily collaborate on a deployment role for an OpenStack project without it becoming an official 'big tent' project in any way, if that's a concern - we can apply some governance and collaborate, but just not include it in the governance list of projects until it's appropriate to do so. That would be a new model for us, and I think the Ausitin summit is going to be a good time for us to discuss that sort of thing - we're | 18:13 |
odyssey4me | reaching out to a lot of projects to form partnerships in various ways. | 18:13 |
odyssey4me | automagically that role was developed initially a long time ago, well before we had config_template... so it's likely dated - but it could be a good reference and I'm sure that meteorfox would be happy to use something else, especially if there's an opportunity to co-develop | 18:14 |
SamYaple | odyssey4me: ok. well openstack is in the OS namespace since a while back. but there was some freezer v ekko concerns that may prevent it from being bigtent long run. My guess is i can certainly make the case that block-backup != file-backup, but time will tell. in the mean time i think i still understand OSA enough to add it in for you guys | 18:15 |
SamYaple | sorry, ekko is in the OS namespace* | 18:15 |
odyssey4me | yep, let's chat at the summit | 18:16 |
odyssey4me | as today is not a work day for me.... | 18:16 |
* odyssey4me goes back to !computering :) | 18:16 | |
meteorfox | automagically: odyssey4me : yep, also that role was very minimal. It doesn't expose almost anything yet, so it still needs work | 18:17 |
automagically | meteorfox: Thanks, I took a quick look. My plan is to use Galera instead of sqlite, but otherwise I think we probably have similar goals | 18:18 |
SamYaple | odyssey4me: computer harder! | 18:18 |
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cloudnull | afk a bit | 18:18 |
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meteorfox | automagically: cool | 18:19 |
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cloudnull | IDK if any cores are still around however if anyone has time to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295866 -- I'd appreciate it --cc mhayden | 22:20 |
cloudnull | that said, Im out have a good one everyone | 22:20 |
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