Tuesday, 2014-04-01

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jay_t_canyone around?02:32
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8435906:04
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admin0hey all08:29
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openstackgerritIlya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add encoding argument to deserialising udp packets in collector  https://review.openstack.org/8372208:43
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inc0_Xchat...anyway, good morning08:52
inc0_anyone could please tell me when ceilometerclient 1.0.10 will be on pypi?08:53
eglynninc0_: I'm still waiting to get https://review.openstack.org/83514 over the line08:55
eglynninc0_: (needs a binding +1 from a ceilo core)08:55
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nprivalovaeglynn: I'm looking into 8351409:38
eglynnnprivalova: thank you!09:38
nprivalovaeglynn: "aggregate.param=%(param)s" % aggregate  <- is it ok? shouldn't it be aggregate.get('param')? I decided to ask here because it's faster09:39
eglynnnprivalova: doesn't the '%(param)s' placeholder select the param attribute from the aggregate?09:41
nprivalovaeglynn: ah, yep, you're right09:42
nprivalovaeglynn: so approve is ok, yes? it will go to Juno?09:43
eglynnnprivalova: phew! ... for a sec there I thought I'd had one of my signature brain-seizures when writing that patch ;)09:43
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix the return of statistic with getting no sample  https://review.openstack.org/8046709:46
nprivalovaeglynn: :) so master is associated with Juno, right?09:46
eglynnnprivalova: ... yep master in ceilo is now open for Juno, master in python-ceiloclient is decoupled from the main release cycle tho'09:47
nprivalovaeglynn: please rebase09:54
eglynnnprivalova: will do now09:54
openstackgerritEoghan Glynn proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Ensure statistics aggregates are ordered with parameterized first  https://review.openstack.org/8351409:58
eglynnnprivalova: ... your +2 is auto-added back on the rebased https://review.openstack.org/8351409:59
eglynnnprivalova: ... but IIUC you'll need to manually re-approve10:00
ildikov_eglynn: I've done it already, I hope you don't mind10:00
nprivalovaeglynn: ildikov made it faster :)10:00
eglynnnprivalova: ... np, ildikov_ got in there first! :)10:00
eglynncool, thanks nprivalova & ildikov_! :)10:00
eglynninc0_: ^^^ once that approved patch lands, I'll cut 1.0.10 (should be within a couple hours)10:01
inc0_eglynn, thats great news:)10:02
ildikov_nprivalova, eglynn: sorry, I needed my good works for today and this patch was a perfect candidate :)10:02
nprivalovaeglynn: I'm working in changing schema in HBase because using current one it's impossible to fix get_meters(). And I have a question about sources. "Resource may have several sources" - is it the truth? I cannot imagine that10:06
openstackgerritIlya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add encoding argument to deserialising udp packets in collector  https://review.openstack.org/8372210:07
eglynnnprivalova: "Resource may have several sources" => theoretically yes, but in reality no IIUC10:09
ildikov_nprivalova, eglynn: if the answer is a theoretical yes, then it seesm to be a similar issue as we had earlier with resources and users, but I'm on the cannot imagine side too10:09
ildikov_eglynn is reading my mind, I'm scared :)10:09
ildikov_eglynn, nprivalova: shouldn't we do something with these theoretical "yes"s?10:10
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eglynnildikov_: ... that's the way the Borg collective works ... the emergent hive-mind ;)10:10
ildikov_eglynn, nprivalova: maybe it bothers only me, in this case just ignore me :)10:11
ildikov_eglynn: phew! good news, everything is clear now ;)10:12
eglynnildikov_, nprivalova: so jd__ brought this issue up at summit, with a proposal to "tighten" the datamodel for these kinds of scenarios10:13
eglynn... (e.g. resource associated with multiple user identities etc.)10:13
eglynn... https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ceilometer/blueprints/tighten-model10:13
ildikov_eglynn: yep, I remember and also there was a discussion about this not so long ago on IRC10:14
ildikov_eglynn: IIRC10:14
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nprivalovaeglynn: yep, I know that it is to be discussed on summit... but the problem that I need to rewrite tables structure now. But not too much because very likely that structure should be changed again after summit10:15
nprivalovaeglynn: and the assumption that "we have only one source per resource" would help me :)10:16
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eglynnnprivalova: IIUC jd__'s original proposal was actually to retain that flexibility, even if unused in openstack10:17
eglynnnprivalova: ... however that thinking may have shifted a bit10:17
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nprivalovaeglynn: ok, I see. Thank you!10:18
ildikov_eglynn: is there a way that a resource could change its source?10:19
eglynnnprivalova: ... my instinct would be to allow the restriction of 1:1 resource:source/resource:user to be allowed in a storage driver10:19
ildikov_eglynn: theoretically10:19
eglynnildikov_: at time t0, sample1(resource=R1, source=S1)10:20
eglynnildikov_: at time t1, sample1(resource=R1, source=S2)10:20
ildikov_eglynn: ok, I knew the formal way :)10:21
eglynn... /me states the obvious again ;)10:21
ildikov_eglynn: but is there a chance to get these samples in a production env for instance?10:22
eglynnildikov_: yeah I don't it would ever happen in the wild right now10:31
ildikov_eglynn: I thought about if there is a some kind of distributed system and for exmaple an instance could be moved between the parts and it would be managed centrally, then could it happen that this instance will have a different source or not10:34
ildikov_eglynn: anyway, I think currently it is a good assumption to have 1:1 mappings10:34
eglynnildikov_: ... do you mean migrating the instance between clouds, such as openstack->AWS and back again?10:35
eglynnildikov_: ... or between multiple openstack regions?10:35
eglynnildikov_: ... dunno if it would be truely the same instance in either case10:36
ildikov_eglynn: ... more the second than the first10:36
ildikov_eglynn: ... and yes, I had the same question in mind that it will be the same or not10:37
ildikov_eglynn: ... and I cannot really argue against not in either case10:38
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ildikov_eglynn: I do not have an exact real life UC at the moment, so it was just a quick wild question, sorry to steal your time with it :)10:40
eglynnildikov_: np! ... and agreed not realistic as things currently stand in openstack10:40
ildikov_eglynn: ok, then it seems we agree :)10:43
eglynnildikov_: ... yeap, I told ya, it's the hive-mind ;)10:43
ildikov_eglynn: I cool, I like this alien feeling ;)10:44
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admin0hi guys ..i did my first attempt for a blueprint .. can someone check: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ceilometer/blueprints/graphite-publisher11:21
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admin0blueprint registered11:38
admin0now trying to submit my branch11:38
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/7763911:48
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Ensure statistics aggregates are ordered with parameterized first  https://review.openstack.org/8351411:53
openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8348411:56
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eglynninc0_: python-ceilometerclient 1.0.10 is now a thing! :)12:42
eglynntarball: http://tarballs.openstack.org/python-ceilometerclient/python-ceilometerclient-1.0.10.tar.gz12:42
eglynnpypi: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-ceilometerclient/1.0.1012:42
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jay_t_canyone around? I have a question i would like to ask regarding alarm notifier12:56
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eglynnjay_t_c: ask away and I'll get to it when I can (on a call now)13:09
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jay_t_ci have created a stack in heat which creates alarms for high and low cpu13:14
jay_t_c i am seeing in the notifier log ERROR ceilometer.alarm.service [req-94c6c466-760d-4b63-a186-a994bcb881ce None None] Action  for alarm 636a4dc3-a15d-4093-97a8-d4e9f6c50cf4 is unknown, cannot notify\13:14
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jay_t_ci found the code which creates the error in service.py13:19
jd__<ttx> jd__: if you are really bored you can start working on13:20
jd__      https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Icehouse13:20
jd__if someone is bored13:20
eglynnjay_t_c: $ ceilometer alarm-show -a 636a4dc3-a15d-4093-97a8-d4e9f6c50cf413:24
eglynnjay_t_c: ^^^ what's the alarm_action in the above13:24
jay_t_cone sec13:25
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jay_t_c_2had to switch computers13:32
jay_t_c_2i will post the output13:32
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jay_t_c_2is long13:37
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jay_t_c_2 [u'/arn%3Aopenstack%3Aheat%3A%3A1129030a03974f5087edd212704d3a4c%3Astacks%2FAutoScale2%2Fbb65f8e4-7502-40f2-99e3-93af141e3e00%2Fresources%2FWebServerScaleUpPolicy?Timestamp=2014-03-31T23%3A01%3A54Z&SignatureMethod=HmacSHA256&AWSAccessKeyId=8c372fb2186b4b0188e7027fd88087c3&SignatureVersion=2&Signature=n6qmEY5MpObk0wrgVvYADU%2FI9Hp5B5Ja5WsLEc6mURg%3D']13:38
admin0no meetings today ?13:38
eglynnadmin0: weekly meeting is on thurs @ 1500 UTC this week13:40
admin0oh … i had it in the wrong day :)13:40
jay_t_c_2eglynn:  does that seem right to you?13:41
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admin0i marked it for tuesday ( today )13:41
eglynnjay_t_c_2: ... hmmm, that looks like at arn13:41
admin0fixing .13:41
eglynnjay_t_c_2: ... should be a http[s] URL13:42
jay_t_c_2so in the template i am doing this,  - {'Fn::GetAtt': [WebServerScaleDownPolicy, AlarmUrl]}13:42
eglynnjay_t_c_2: ... ARN == "Amazon Resource Name"13:42
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jay_t_c_2with WebServerScaleDownPolicy being scaling policy name13:42
eglynnjay_t_c_2: can you paste the full template on paste.openstack.org13:43
eglynnjay_t_c_2: (modulo anything "incriminating" ;))13:43
eglynnjay_t_c_2: ... I'll take a look after I get off the phone13:43
jay_t_c_2i put out on the mailing list but i can put on paste.openstack.org also13:44
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jay_t_c_2eglynn:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/74749/13:48
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eglynnjay_t_c_2: heat/ceilo versions?13:51
jay_t_c_2i am running latest havana packages on ubuntu13:52
openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Include instance state in metadata  https://review.openstack.org/8443813:52
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eglynnjay_t_c_2: ... yo-kay, /me will have a look in detail once I'm free13:53
jay_t_c_2ok thanks13:53
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gordcjd__: eglynn: ^ this is blocking stable/havana.14:19
eglynngordc: looking14:19
gordceglynn: thanks.14:19
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eglynngordc: ... those alembic cowboys, grrrr!14:20
eglynn"lets just drop or rename a kwarg for fun!"14:20
gordceglynn: lol no comment.14:20
gordcguess it's good we dropped it in master.14:21
eglynngordc: yeap, the whole thing turned out quite troublesome14:27
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openstackgerritRob Raymond proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Replace hard coded WSGI application creation  https://review.openstack.org/7795714:32
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jay_t_c_2stepped away for a while14:46
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jay_t_c_2i just have a feeling i am missign somethign15:11
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admin0now you are not missing it :D15:11
jay_t_c_2i expected - {"Fn::GetAtt": [WebServerScaleDownPolicy, AlarmUrl]} to return something more like http://heatservername:8004/v1/blablabla/WebServerScaleUpPolicy15:13
jay_t_c_2instead of the very long arn string i am getting15:14
jay_t_c_2if i do a heat resource-show WebServerScaleUpPolicy15:15
jay_t_c_2there is a links property15:15
jay_t_c_2which is more like what i was expecting15:15
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nprivalovaeglynn: Could you please help me again :)  "resource has one user, one project and may have several sources" - is it correct?15:56
nprivalovaor somebody else15:56
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eglynnnprivalova: my understanding is that the way the ceilometer is currently implemented, we do not enforce a 1:1 mapping between resource and either source *or* project/user15:57
eglynnnprivalova: ... however, in reality openstack resource are essentially bound to a single user identity15:58
eglynnnprivalova: ... i.e. I don't know any way that this "flexibility" in ceilometer would actually be used or needed15:58
jay_t_c_2eglynn: have you had a chance to look at the template i posted?15:58
eglynnjay_t_c_2: not yet15:59
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jay_t_c_2ok btw, the ceilometer versions ii  ceilometer-agent-central         2013.2.2-0ubuntu1~cloud0          ceilometer central agent ii  ceilometer-api                   2013.2.2-0ubuntu1~cloud0          ceilometer api service ii  ceilometer-collector             2013.2.2-0ubuntu1~cloud0          ceilometer collector service ii  ceilometer-common                2013.2.2-0ubuntu1~cloud0          ceilometer common files ii  pyth16:00
nprivalovaeglynn: hmm...looks like it's better to upload my change and continue discussions in comments16:01
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eglynnnprivalova: k16:01
jay_t_c_2ugh that was ugly, 2013.2.2 ubuntu cloud is the version16:01
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jay_t_c_2heat is the same 2013.2.2, i know you asked for versions earlier16:03
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inc0hello again16:35
inc0anyone uses vagrant do set up devenv?16:35
gordcnope... may want to try openstack-dev (there's a bigger audience there... except it's also a ghost town).16:44
inc0gordc, well, I was hoping to get ceilometer specific vagrantfile but thats just me being lazy;)16:46
gordcinc0: oh... yes, stop being lazy.lol16:46
inc0gordc, being lazy is pythonic;)16:47
inc0if its constructive laziness16:47
gordchahah. that's true. when i take naps at work, that's my same justification.16:48
inc0fortunately my superior is also a pythonista so it usually works16:49
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dhellmanngordc: should we tag pycadf 0.5 for icehouse?16:56
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gordcdhellmann: we can. not sure there was much changes to library since last release... seems like just doc files.16:58
dhellmanngordc: the requirements changed apparently?16:59
gordcdhellmann: i can update requirements and oslo if we want another release?16:59
dhellmanngordc: I'd rather just tag what we've been testing with so far16:59
gordcdhellmann: ok. so leave the existing requirements patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79693/) off?17:00
dhellmanngordc: does that one bring us up to date? (I mostly meant to not sync oslo changes)17:00
gordcdhellmann: i believe so. it'd bring us up to last jenkins requirements sync.17:01
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dhellmanngordc: ok, let's get that in before tagging then17:02
gordcdhellmann: ok. i'll approve and tag pycadf 0.517:02
dhellmanngordc: great, thanks!17:03
dhellmanngordc: we should think about a 1.0 for juno, too17:03
gordcdhellmann: definitely. there's a vote closing soon to finalise the spec. once that's in i'll do a sync again and we can aim for 1.0 in Juno.17:04
dhellmanngordc: perfect17:05
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jay_t_c_2in havana i should still be using v1 api correct?17:18
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jay_t_c_2debug loggin in api log is showing Failed to convert the metadata value Group_A automatically _get_value_as_type17:26
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jay_t_c_2is anyone still around?17:46
gordcjay_t_c_2: you should be using v2 for havana.17:49
jay_t_c_2i see v2 related calls in the api log17:50
gordcif you're using the client it'll probably be pointing at v2 (if i remember correctly)17:50
jay_t_c_2i keep seeing this failed to convert metadata value error in the api log17:51
jay_t_c_2i asked a couple of questions earlier17:53
jay_t_c_2is everyone pretty much gone for the day17:53
gordcjay_t_c_2: yep.lol17:53
gordcwhat's the failure you see. can you paste it somehwere?17:53
jay_t_c_2well i am trying to set matching metadata for my alarm thru a heat template17:54
jay_t_c_2but in the api log17:54
jay_t_c_2i keep seeing17:54
jay_t_c_2DEBUG ceilometer.api.controllers.v2 [-] Failed to convert the metadata value Group_A automatically _get_value_as_type /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2. py:23817:54
jay_t_c_2i am looking at v2.py17:55
gordcjay_t_c_2: oh... alarms...17:55
jay_t_c_2i see in line 23517:55
jay_t_c_2it is trying to convert metadata value i have given17:56
gordcwhat's the client call you're using?17:57
gordcjay_t_c_2: you probably need to pass in a type17:57
jay_t_c_2how would i do that from a heat template17:58
gordcjay_t_c_2: errr. i've never used heat before.17:58
gordclet me take a look at their code17:59
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jay_t_c_2any luck?18:19
jay_t_c_2i think it is geting the metadata value from mongoDB18:20
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gordcjay_t_c_2: are you getting a trace or just that one DEBUG log?18:25
jay_t_c_2just debug18:25
jay_t_c_2no trace18:25
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jay_t_c_2are you thinking it isn't so much of an issue18:26
gordcjay_t_c_2: right... that DEBUG log you pasted is not an error.18:26
gordcjay_t_c_2: i guess the message itself is somewhat overselling the issue18:26
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jay_t_c_2well then the only other issue i am having is with alarm_action and the proper url18:27
jay_t_c_2which is the one i asked eglynn about earlier18:27
jay_t_c_2i think when i create the alarm thru heat, i am not getting the correct alarm action set18:28
gordcjay_t_c_2: you can open a bug about that if you'd like. that is a somewhat jarring message.18:28
jay_t_c_2is is giving a long arn18:28
jay_t_c_2the one about the unable to convert automatically18:28
gordcyeah, you can create bug for 'fail to convert' if you'd like.18:29
gordcwhat's a long arn?18:29
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jay_t_c_2is what i see for alarm action18:41
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jay_t_c_2and i am expecting something more like18:58
jay_t_c_2 http://heatservername:8004/v1/blablabla/WebServerScaleUpPolicy18:59
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/pycadf: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/7969319:22
gordcjay_t_c_2: uhhh.. yeah that's pretty weird.19:24
gordcjay_t_c_2: you could try looking at ceilometer db to see what is beng stored (i'm not really close to the alarm stuff to be honest)19:24
jay_t_c_2not sure why i am getting that instead of url19:24
jay_t_c_2it is that as well19:24
jay_t_c_2same arn...19:24
gordcjay_t_c_2: yeah. that's very strange. i'm not sure what arn is... doesn't seem to be an encoding thing.19:25
jay_t_c_2amazon resource name is what someone said earlier19:25
jay_t_c_2which the group is an amazon resource19:26
jay_t_c_2because in havana there isn't a native autoscalinggroup19:26
gordcjay_t_c_2: hmm.. yeah. i can't really help with that... i'd need to dig into the code. might be able to take a look later.19:32
jay_t_c_2ok, thanks19:33
gordcdhellmann: fyi, i've tagged and push pycadf 0.5... should be available in the next while.19:34
dhellmanngordc: thanks, did you send email to the -dev list?19:34
gordcdhellmann: nope. i guess i should?19:34
dhellmanngordc: yes, please, just a quite note with the version and the changes (you can get that from the ChangeLog file after running "python setup.py sdist"()19:36
dhellmannthe packages rely on notifications like that to know when things are released19:36
gordcdhellmann: ok, i'll just copy novaclient email (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/029411.html)19:36
dhellmanngordc: that works, or one of the other oslo emails I sent earlier today19:37
dhellmannwhatever format is easier19:37
gordcdhellmann: yeah, i just notice them. i'll copy and send.19:37
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dhellmanngordc: thanks!19:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Metadata in compute.instance.exists fix  https://review.openstack.org/8303420:39
jay_t_c_2eglynn, are you still here?20:41
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