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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/88506 | 06:01 |
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| liusheng | Hi Folks, I have found that the commit upload by eglynn about spec git repo has been merged(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94044/). So A new blueprint after registerd should upload a *spec* to review? like nova? | 06:40 |
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| eglynn | liusheng: good morning! | 06:44 |
| eglynn | liusheng: yep, my telemetry-specs repo creation patch finally landed! :) \o/ | 06:44 |
| eglynn | liusheng: so the idea is to write a BP based on this template https://github.com/openstack/telemetry-specs/blob/master/specs/template.rst | 06:45 |
| eglynn | liusheng: ... and propose it as a new spec under https://github.com/openstack/telemetry-specs/blob/master/specs/juno | 06:45 |
| liusheng | eglynn: good morning, here is afternoon:-) | 06:45 |
| eglynn | liusheng: ... good morning! | 06:45 |
| eglynn | liusheng: ... the commit message for https://review.openstack.org/94044 explain the process very briefly | 06:46 |
| liusheng | eglynn: thanks! | 06:46 |
| liusheng | eglynn: got it | 06:46 |
| eglynn | liusheng: ... so you'll still need a short BP in launchpad, which points to the spec file in telemetry-specs via the 'Specification URL' field in LP | 06:48 |
| eglynn | liusheng: ... but it's the specs file that'll contain all the detail and is reviewed in gerrit etc. | 06:48 |
| liusheng | eglynn: thanks for make thatclear,some days ago (before the desig sommit), I have registerd a blueprint about evluation direct db access, are you remember that? so I can write an specs to review? | 06:50 |
| eglynn | liusheng: yes, if you could propose a corresponding spec file for that BP, that would be great! thanks :) | 06:51 |
| liusheng | eglynn: OK, got it! thanks :) | 06:53 |
| eglynn | liusheng: thank *you* sir! :) | 06:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Remove all mostly untranslated PO files https://review.openstack.org/94784 | 07:03 |
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| AJaeger | I'd like to see some review for https://review.openstack.org/94784, please - this will reduce the daily translation updates significantly | 07:07 |
| eglynn | AJaeger: ... I'll add to my list | 07:09 |
| eglynn | AJaeger: ... SLA == "by end of day" ;) | 07:09 |
| AJaeger | eglynn, thanks! I know it didn't pass testing yet ;) | 07:09 |
| AJaeger | eglynn, if it merges in before the next run of the bot, it would be great - so in 22 hours | 07:10 |
| AJaeger | if you have questions about it, just ask | 07:10 |
| eglynn | AJaeger: ... I'll definitely get to it before then ... I'll solicit some other reviews also | 07:12 |
| AJaeger | eglynn, great, thanks a lot! | 07:12 |
| AJaeger | this should give far small - and less frequent - updates of the translation bot... | 07:13 |
| eglynn | AJaeger: excellent! ... less churn == goodness | 07:24 |
| AJaeger | Yeah, have been working on this across projects - and including updating the infra jobs. This patch is just the final part for ceilometer | 07:25 |
| eglynn | AJaeger: ... cool, you have me convinced, I'll just await the blessings of CI | 07:28 |
| AJaeger | sure ;) | 07:28 |
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| eglynn | q/uery jpich | 08:27 |
| psharma | hi , i am getting http://fpaste.org/104051/00747483/ while i was trying to do install ceilometer from github source | 08:32 |
| psharma | on f19 VM | 08:32 |
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| eglynn | psharma: none of the distros I'm aware of are still testing against Fedora19 | 08:49 |
| eglynn | psharma: ... why not move up to f20? | 08:49 |
| eglynn | psharma: (... as opposed to burning time debugging an issue on a Fedora version that's gonna be EoL'd soon enough) | 08:49 |
| eglynn | psharma: ... well actually not *that* soon now that I've checked the release schedule, one month after the f21 release http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/21/Schedule | 08:50 |
| psharma | eglynn, it seems i should resort to f20, however i was opinion building from source wont make much difference of f19/20 | 08:52 |
| psharma | ok let me try that | 08:52 |
| eglynn | psharma: ... for convenience, you could give the RDO RPMs a whirl on f20 | 08:52 |
| eglynn | psharma: ... http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 08:52 |
| eglynn | psharma: ... unless you're set on building from master | 08:53 |
| psharma | eglynn, yes i was trying to setup from master, one more query , for swift ceilometer-middleware do i need all of ceilometer packages on swift node | 08:55 |
| jd__ | eglynn: looks like the spec repo has been created | 08:56 |
| eglynn | psharma: I suspect the openstack-ceilometer-common RPM would suffice, but I haven't tested that | 08:56 |
| eglynn | jd__: \o/, coolness! :) | 08:57 |
| eglynn | jd__: so nagging infra works ... kinda | 08:57 |
| jd__ | eglynn: so should I start my bp in it? | 08:57 |
| * jd__ just cloned it | 08:57 | |
| eglynn | jd__: that would be great if you could | 08:57 |
| jd__ | I can do anything | 08:58 |
| jd__ | which is something that is not always helping actually, but meh | 08:58 |
| jd__ | omg why is there setup.py in this repo | 08:58 |
| eglynn | jd__: it's a clone of the tripleo-specs repo | 08:58 |
| jd__ | so it's actually a Python package, haha funny | 08:58 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... which I believe was created by the openstack-cookiecutter tool | 08:59 |
| jd__ | "did you deploy Ceilometer?" - "just the specs" - "great, that should be enough for our customers" | 08:59 |
| eglynn | jd__: LOL :) | 08:59 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... so yeah, there's prolly some pruning we could do there | 09:00 |
| jd__ | Specs-as-a-Service | 09:00 |
| jd__ | describe your software and then it runs | 09:00 |
| jd__ | well that's some sort of PaaS I guess | 09:00 |
| cdent | isn't that heat? ;) | 09:00 |
| * eglynn just took the lazy man's route with a global s/tripleo/telemetry/ | 09:01 | |
| eglynn | ... knowing the tripleo folks, it prolly has a bunch of bash hidden away somewhere also ;) | 09:01 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... feel free to hack out any of the extra baggage you reckon is unnecessary weight | 09:02 |
| jd__ | :-) | 09:02 |
| jd__ | not a big deal anyway | 09:02 |
| psharma | eglynn, thanks | 09:03 |
| anand_ts | hi all, how cpu utilization of an instance is calculated.? Pls find the paste bin here for the command and output. http://paste.openstack.org/show/81127/ . could someone guide me how to check the utilization of individual resource | 09:18 |
| anand_ts | what is volume in that output? | 09:21 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: good morning! | 09:24 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: ... so we need to distinguish carefully between the cpu meter (cumulative CPU time in nanos) and the cpu_util (gauge CPU utilization %) | 09:25 |
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| eglynn | anand_ts: ... so your paste concerns the former meter | 09:27 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: ... this is just populated by the cumulative CPU time reported by the hypervisor layer (e.g. libvirt) | 09:28 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: ... whereas the cpu_util is derived by computing the delta between subsequent cumulative values, scaled for the number of vcpus allocated to the instance | 09:30 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: ... all done in a transformer in a pipeline | 09:31 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: make sense? | 09:33 |
| anand_ts | eglynn, thanks for the reply. very good morning to you too :) | 09:33 |
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| eglynn | anand_ts: np! | 09:34 |
| anand_ts | Actually. I'm not sure till now, when I give ceilometer meter-list --query project=PROJECT_ID_Y;user=USER_ID_B, I get output like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/81130/ | 09:35 |
| anand_ts | here I can see guage, cumulative, ns delta etc | 09:35 |
| anand_ts | this is little confusing eglynn | 09:36 |
| DinaBelova | o/ | 09:37 |
| anand_ts | As you told, I want the cpu utilization of each instance in %. | 09:37 |
| DinaBelova | hello, folks! | 09:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, hey | 09:37 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: not sure I understand your question ... are you seeing more or fewer meters in that output than you'd expect? | 09:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, /me looking on your CR | 09:37 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: hey | 09:37 |
| DinaBelova | Finally woke up after jet lag)) | 09:37 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: I hear ya! | 09:38 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: ... the patch that landed already? | 09:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, oh, it's already merged :) | 09:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, yup, big lag | 09:38 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: ... yep, I guilted the other infra guys into looking at it last night | 09:38 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: ... but thanks for looking again! | 09:38 |
| DinaBelova | coolio) | 09:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, np :) | 09:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, is it working ok for you or you're not started using it yet? | 09:39 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: ... I haven't proposed any specs yet, but will be doing so later on today | 09:39 |
| anand_ts | eglynn, I see more meters and its difficult to distinguish.How can I get the cpu_util of instances in human readable format. ie, in percentage for eg. | 09:40 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: ... but looks fine so far, even if we probably included some needless baggage in the seed repo | 09:40 |
| jd__ | eglynn: do you know if I need to create a LP blueprint too? the template in the repo talks about putting the URL, but I don't understand if it's mandatory or not | 09:40 |
| eglynn | jd__: yep create a LP BP also and link via the specification URL | 09:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, ok | 09:40 |
| jd__ | link what? | 09:41 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... the LP BP can be delayed I guess until after the spec lands | 09:41 |
| jd__ | ack | 09:41 |
| eglynn | jd__: link to http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/telemetry-specs/tree/specs/juno/jds-awesome-idea.rst | 09:41 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: welcome back! | 09:42 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, heh, I still try to recover from the lagging))) | 09:42 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, o/ | 09:42 |
| jd__ | ok eglynn | 09:42 |
| jd__ | hey DinaBelova | 09:42 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... only 5 hours delta for us, but I still was jet lagged | 09:43 |
| * eglynn must be getting old ... | 09:43 | |
| DinaBelova | Don't think so - I guess it's simply difficult :( | 09:43 |
| DinaBelova | age means not much here imho | 09:43 |
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| eglynn | anand_ts: so you're displaying meters there, not samples | 09:43 |
| Naren | hi | 09:44 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: for cpu_util samples ... | 09:44 |
| DinaBelova | jd__ - have you done some initiatives in the Gnocchi since summit? | 09:44 |
| DinaBelova | I'm a little out of context | 09:44 |
| DinaBelova | because of looong trip home | 09:44 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: $ ceilometer sample-list -m cpu_util --query "project=c2956b68bf324c87a1b0090263b350fc;user=3cb6feda450c4d7a9fbdd1c77cdced48" | 09:44 |
| * jd__ has been jet lagged for 3 days too… | 09:44 | |
| jd__ | DinaBelova: yeah I've pushed moar code | 09:44 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: ... or for aggregated statistics | 09:44 |
| anand_ts | eglynn, thanks I will make a try | 09:44 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: $ ceilometer statistics -m cpu_util --query "project=c2956b68bf324c87a1b0090263b350fc;user=3cb6feda450c4d7a9fbdd1c77cdced48" -p 3600 | 09:45 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, ok, will start looking on it today | 09:45 |
| Naren | i'm new to here, want to contribute on ceilometer code | 09:45 |
| eglynn | anand_ts: ... ^^^ in that example: -p 3600 = hourly periods | 09:45 |
| jd__ | DinaBelova: I've a todo list if you are bored | 09:45 |
| eglynn | Naren: hi, welcome | 09:45 |
| DinaBelova | jd__ I still have vacation - till the end of this week to recover from lagging - but will look on it with great pleasure)) | 09:45 |
| Naren | hi eglynn | 09:45 |
| DinaBelova | and start work on it too) | 09:45 |
| jd__ | DinaBelova: ok :) | 09:45 |
| DinaBelova | jd__ so the link to the todo list will be cool ;) | 09:46 |
| eglynn | Naren: my advice ... start by playing around with a devstack, read the docco, and step thru the code | 09:46 |
| eglynn | Naren: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/install/development.html for details of enabling ceilo in devstack | 09:47 |
| Naren | thanks eglynn | 09:47 |
| Naren | finished devstack playaround | 09:47 |
| jd__ | DinaBelova: https://gist.github.com/jd/229ab8211aa9a6b547de I'll try to update it as far as I progress | 09:48 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, cool! | 09:48 |
| anand_ts | eglynn. just now I got the question on rdo forums which I asked few months back and your reply too, that cleared. http://openstack.redhat.com/forum/discussion/847/check-vm-cpu-utilization-and-memory-using-ceilometer/p1 | 09:50 |
| jd__ | DinaBelova: but ping me before you start working on anything just to be sure :) | 09:50 |
| DinaBelova | jd__ - sure)) | 09:50 |
| DinaBelova | I simply want now to go through Gnocchi code | 09:50 |
| DinaBelova | as I have some doubts in several moments | 09:51 |
| DinaBelova | although I love overall idea | 09:51 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, I mean Gnocchi needs to be as simple and changable as it's possible, but in the same time (as swift impl is the first to start with) I have several problems with understanding how to operate with swift correctly - it's still working much better and faster with big objects | 09:52 |
| DinaBelova | and our info to store there is small really | 09:53 |
| DinaBelova | I wonder how good this might work finally | 09:53 |
| jd__ | DinaBelova: if you want to run some benchmarks, go ahead | 09:53 |
| jd__ | it should be pretty doable | 09:53 |
| DinaBelova | jd__ - well, probably, yes... I mean swift is a good project - but its object storage might be not so usable here. | 09:54 |
| DinaBelova | well, we'll see anyway | 09:54 |
| DinaBelova | as it'll be pluggable - one more backend may simply solve this problem | 09:55 |
| jd__ | Early optimization is the root of all evil. | 09:55 |
| DinaBelova | jd__ heh)) well, I'm not speaking about early optimization) I just say, that probably some of the plugins (to be implemented) will work definitely better and quicker than swift | 09:56 |
| DinaBelova | so the idea is to keep Gnocchi code pluggable - all other things will go with it | 09:56 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 09:56 |
| jd__ | that's why there's a driver system indeed | 09:57 |
| DinaBelova | indeed ;) | 09:57 |
| jd__ | but stating that "swift is not fast enough" sounds really awkward to me | 09:58 |
| DinaBelova | nah, I just say that swift is not optimized to store such small object :-\ I do not say it's bad storage) | 09:58 |
| jd__ | hm I don't get why it's not "optimized" for that | 10:02 |
| jd__ | I think you should go discuss that on #openstack-swift | 10:02 |
| jd__ | but just wait I grab some popcorn first | 10:02 |
| jd__ | :D | 10:02 |
| DinaBelova | jd__ - heh))) | 10:02 |
| DinaBelova | yee) | 10:02 |
| DinaBelova | that's why I say that let's do it - and then just compare | 10:02 |
| jd__ | yeah | 10:03 |
| DinaBelova | I mean I've spoken with SergeyLukjanov as he had some swift experience before | 10:03 |
| jd__ | that's not something I'm worried about | 10:03 |
| DinaBelova | jd__ - well - we all want to make this piece of code to work great))) and we'll do it) | 10:04 |
| eglynn | jd__, DinaBelova: slightly off-topic, but what's the initial feeling on InfuxDB as an alternative driver for gnocchi? | 10:05 |
| eglynn | (... i.e. as an alternative to pandas+swift) | 10:05 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn - well, imho it might be good... but as said on the summit - we need to investigate it better - I mean, idea and how do these folks say about it sounds tasty - but this sounds too good imho) | 10:06 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: yeah definitely further investigation required | 10:07 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... and it would just be an alternative in the sense one of a pluggable range of drivers | 10:07 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, jd__ - personally I believe that hbase might work here good too - as it supports on very low level timestamps inside - so ops with the time data run there much quicker than in other dbs for instance | 10:07 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, exactly | 10:08 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: yeah ... so pandas+swift could be considered the "canonical" driver, but with pandas+hbase/cassandra, or Influx as alternatives | 10:08 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, +1 | 10:08 |
| DinaBelova | cassandra sounds tasty too))) | 10:09 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 10:09 |
| eglynn | cool :) | 10:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | pandas sounds nice | 10:09 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: ... yeah sounds soft and cuddly ;) | 10:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, there are some nice pandas in Hong Kong and Atlanta zoo | 10:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | probably in Paris zoo too :) | 10:11 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, SergeyLukjanov - padnas sounds as https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4qaqkL_o3xI/UpXqu_CoX3I/AAAAAAAAAP4/ZwPmaDY9Y1Q/w411-h618-no/DSC01024.jpg | 10:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and bingo - http://www.giantpandazoo.com/panda/history/pandas-in-france | 10:11 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: ... a-ha, you've discovered the hidden pattern in the choice of summit venues! | 10:11 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn - it's panda from hk zoo)) | 10:11 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: ... that's why Dublin & Berlin lost out to Paris, no pandas! ;) | 10:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, heh, summits map - http://www.giantpandazoo.com/panda/panda-zoos | 10:13 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: \o/ Mexico City for ODS Spring 2015! | 10:14 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn - so pandas are the hidden secret) | 10:14 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: if you guys ever want to bring summit to Saratov, you know what must be done ... | 10:16 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... kidnap a panda! ;) | 10:16 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn - there are only 47 pandas outside China) | 10:17 |
| DinaBelova | so it might be difficult to do it without being caught) | 10:18 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... ok, so maybe you'll have to fall back to hiring a dude in a panda suit ;) | 10:18 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 10:18 |
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| _nadya_ | eglynn: hi! are we gonna have smth like summit-summary on today's meeting? | 10:24 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: hi! | 10:29 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: thanks for the dog! :) | 10:29 |
| _nadya_ | eglynn: :) | 10:30 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: ... my daughter loves it, she's mad about dogs | 10:30 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: I was thinking of doing a quick summit round-up and then talk more about Juno planning | 10:33 |
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| _nadya_ | eglynn: yep, sounds good. Because I'm a little bit lost. It would be great to have a list of resources-to-follow. E.g. about gnocci :) The main ideas, directions, session etherpads | 10:35 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: ... first stop would be to look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Juno/Etherpads#Ceilometer | 10:36 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: ... on gnocchi, I copied most of the notes I took at the pre-track discussion on gnocchi to: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-tsdaas | 10:37 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: ... embedded links to the wiki and git repo | 10:37 |
| _nadya_ | eglynn: thanks, great | 10:38 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: ... re. the discussion above on gnocchi+influx, that arose from a suggestion in the room at one of the sessions | 10:38 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: (... from Rob Basham, one of gordc's colleagues) | 10:39 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: there's a decent intro here http://vimeo.com/95311877 | 10:39 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: ... also I'll forward you a mail thread of follow-up discussion with Paul Dix, contains some further random detail | 10:40 |
| _nadya_ | eglynn: thanks, I'll try to prepare questions before the meeting | 10:43 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: ... cool! | 10:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Use None instead of mutables in method params defaults https://review.openstack.org/91046 | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/telemetry-specs: Add .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/94832 | 11:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/telemetry-specs: Clear whitespaces and fix typos https://review.openstack.org/94833 | 11:52 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: ^ | 11:52 |
| jd__ | first shot at it | 11:52 |
| eglynn | jd__: thank you sir! ... looking now | 11:52 |
| jd__ | eglynn: so is the procedure on that repo the same as usual, ceilometer-core gives 2 +2 to have the bp merged? | 11:55 |
| eglynn | jd__: yes, I would think so | 11:55 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... a single approval would kinda defeat the purpose slightly | 11:56 |
| jd__ | would you! | 11:56 |
| jd__ | that was more or less the case with the old system where PTL was expected to approve things | 11:56 |
| eglynn | jd__: yeah, but my understanding of the *-specs notion was to make it more collaborative across the core team | 11:57 |
| jd__ | sure, I'm not saying the old system was better | 11:58 |
| jd__ | I'm just asking | 11:58 |
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| eglynn | jd__: sure, understood :) | 11:58 |
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| eglynn | jd__: ... so I think we should start off needing the same approvals (2 core +2s) for specs and code | 11:59 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... are you concerned about being blocked on stalled reviews of specs? | 12:00 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... that would be a valid concerm | 12:00 |
| jd__ | no | 12:00 |
| eglynn | k | 12:00 |
| jd__ | not personally at least | 12:00 |
| jd__ | OTOH I think that if specs are blocked because not reviewed or debated, it may be a good way of knowing you should not spend time writing code | 12:01 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... that's a good point | 12:01 |
| jd__ | but I'm also worried about too much nit-picking on the specs side | 12:01 |
| jd__ | we'll see! | 12:01 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... yeah, I think we need to have certain culture of specs reviews | 12:01 |
| * jd__ nods | 12:01 | |
| eglynn | jd__: ... that looks different to the culture of say governance reviews | 12:02 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... i.e. where nitpicking and bikesheding rule ;) | 12:02 |
| jd__ | hehe | 12:02 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... so for example -1'ing on say grammar or spelling should be frowned upon IMHO, unless the result is totally unclear | 12:03 |
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| eglynn | jd__: ... also we'll have to try to avoid the endless-circular-debate trap | 12:04 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: yeah at least it shouldn't be a -1, I think it's ok to notice them in case there is need for a new pathset | 12:04 |
| jd__ | *patchset | 12:04 |
| eglynn | jd__: roger that! | 12:04 |
| jd__ | I lol at py27 not passing in the telemetry-specs repo | 12:05 |
| eglynn | jd__: I guess we'll just have to suck it and see ... we can readjust the policy if it looks like the specs reviews are getting bogged down | 12:05 |
| jd__ | eglynn: yup | 12:05 |
| jd__ | SRSLY | 12:06 |
| jd__ | No .testr.conf config file | 12:06 |
| jd__ | I wonder why we need py27 tox target in this repo | 12:06 |
| * eglynn neglected to copy over any hidden files from the tripleo repo | 12:07 | |
| eglynn | ... hence the lack of .gitreview, .testr.conf etc. | 12:07 |
| jd__ | oh I see. you're fired. | 12:07 |
| jd__ | :D | 12:07 |
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| eglynn | darn, we've got a chicken-and-egg situation here | 12:08 |
| jd__ | there is real unit tests surprisingly | 12:08 |
| jd__ | I'm fixing 'em right now boss | 12:08 |
| * eglynn screwed up when recreating ceilo-specs as telemetry-specs | 12:08 | |
| jd__ | lemme do some magic for ya | 12:08 |
| * jd__ lighten a cigar | 12:08 | |
| eglynn | jd__: ... how to land the fixes? | 12:09 |
| eglynn | jd__: LOL :) | 12:09 |
| DinaBelova | jd__ - may you please fix some more typos there when you'll conquer these Jenkins fails? :) | 12:12 |
| DinaBelova | i've published some comments there | 12:12 |
| jd__ | k | 12:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/telemetry-specs: Clear whitespaces and fix typos https://review.openstack.org/94833 | 12:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/telemetry-specs: Add .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/94832 | 12:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/telemetry-specs: Gnocchi specs https://review.openstack.org/94834 | 12:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/telemetry-specs: Fix tests https://review.openstack.org/94840 | 12:13 |
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| jd__ | http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/75/1f/4e/751f4e5494dda4c1a0b320b8bb7f5134.jpg | 12:16 |
| eglynn | jd__: LOL :) | 12:16 |
| * eglynn breaks own policy by fasttracking https://review.openstack.org/94840 | 12:17 | |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/telemetry-specs: Fix tests https://review.openstack.org/94840 | 12:17 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, this one too)) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94832 | 12:19 |
| DinaBelova | I guess it's obvious too) | 12:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/telemetry-specs: Add .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/94832 | 12:22 |
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| ondergetekende | Oops... Rebased the wrong one... oh well. | 12:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/telemetry-specs: Dedicated-alarm-database specs https://review.openstack.org/94857 | 13:02 |
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| jd__ | 21 comments, damn | 13:15 |
| sileht | eglynn, should I create a spec into the telemetry-specs for old BP ? (/me is thinking about replace-rpc-cast-with-notifications) | 13:16 |
| eglynn | sileht: I don't think it would be required for stuff that's already landed | 13:16 |
| eglynn | sileht: ... especially the oslo-messaging switch-over, given that this was approved and largely implemented over Icehouse | 13:17 |
| eglynn | sileht: ... so I was thinking we'd apply the new process in a non-retrospective way | 13:18 |
| eglynn | sileht: ... seem sane to you? | 13:18 |
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| eglynn | jd__: 21 "nice" comments ;) | 13:22 |
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| eglynn | jd__: ... if you smell bikeshedding on my part, feel free to take off your shoe and beat me about the head with it ;) | 13:22 |
| sileht | eglynn, replace-rpc-cast-with-notifications is a separate blueprint and the code is not merged yet | 13:23 |
| sileht | eglynn, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/replace-rpc-cast-with-notifications | 13:23 |
| eglynn | sileht: my apologies ... /me conflated that with the original olso-messaging switch | 13:23 |
| eglynn | sileht: ... so that one's an edge-case, already and partially implemented | 13:24 |
| eglynn | sileht: ... do you think it would benefit from a detailed spec? | 13:25 |
| sileht | eglynn, not really | 13:25 |
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| eglynn | sileht: ... in that case, I'm sure your time could be better spent elsewhere :) | 13:26 |
| sileht | cool :) | 13:26 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: no it's cool, just updated | 13:28 |
| jd__ | eglynn: is there any plan to create/update the LP blueprint automatically from the git repo? /me lazy | 13:28 |
| eglynn | jd__: cool, thanks! ... I'll give it another pass straight way | 13:28 |
| eglynn | jd__: ttx was talking about using the priority field in the LP BP to drive some auto-tracking logic | 13:29 |
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| eglynn | jd__: ok checked, so ttx was proposing that the filing of the LP BP is normally gated by the PTL | 13:33 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... and only done when the corresponding spec is approved | 13:33 |
| jd__ | i want automation | 13:33 |
| jd__ | I don't want to click in LP anymore | 13:33 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... does the PTL manually filing the LP BP count as automation from your PoV? ;) | 13:34 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... for the gnocchi stuff, its kind of a special case, as we're definitely gonna do it | 13:34 |
| jd__ | lol | 13:35 |
| jd__ | are we turning PTL into blue collars? | 13:35 |
| eglynn | jd__: yeah ... I'm gonna love becoming a drone ;) | 13:36 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... for random drive-by BPs, the LP BP would only be filed (by the PTL) if and when the corresponding spec is approved | 13:36 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: which is exactly what could be automated, no? | 13:36 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... yep, I guess so | 13:36 |
| jd__ | that's just my wish :D | 13:37 |
| * eglynn is unfamiliar with the LP REST API, but it does exist | 13:37 | |
| eglynn | jd__: its a good idea! | 13:37 |
| jd__ | I'm sure ttx would know how to do that | 13:37 |
| eglynn | jd__: agreed, I'll raise it with him next week in 1:1 | 13:37 |
| jd__ | it's easy to trigger a post merge that just takes specs/foobar.rst and create/update ceilomter/+blueprint/foobar.rst and that's it | 13:37 |
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| jd__ | one just have to whisper to ttx's hear | 13:38 |
| jd__ | s/have/has/ | 13:38 |
| * eglynn needs to learn the gentle art of ear-whispering ;) | 13:40 | |
| eglynn | jd__: but yep, totally agreed in principal | 13:41 |
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| zhikunliu | gordc: ping | 14:08 |
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| gordc | zhikunliu: whatsup? | 14:13 |
| zhikunliu | gordc: thanks for your patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1321080. I have a question. Do we need other patches in ceilometer? Since I didn't see the fix in ceilometer's code. | 14:13 |
| gordc | zhikunliu: i'm not sure we do. Ceilometer just collects meter... | 14:14 |
| gordc | zhikunliu: we could create a cleanup script but tbh i don't think it's worth it since not many people are using the middleware and token expire anyways. | 14:15 |
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| zhikunliu | gordc: Maybe my understanding is wrong. so api meters/http.request will not return auth_token after the patch get into oslo and pycadf, right? | 14:19 |
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| gordc | right. | 14:20 |
| zhikunliu | gordc: great job. thank you very much! | 14:22 |
| gordc | zhikunliu: thanks for pointing out bug. | 14:23 |
| zhikunliu | gordc: It's my pleasure :) | 14:24 |
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| gordc | _nadya_: i have this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94682/ but it won't work with current code. | 16:03 |
| sileht | gordc, I have planned to review and test the patch tomorrow | 16:03 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: I need to go now, will continue tomorrow, ok? | 16:03 |
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| gordc | _nadya_: works for me. | 16:03 |
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| _nadya_ | gordc: ok :) | 16:03 |
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| gordc | sileht: awesome. thanks. let me know if you have any concerns. | 16:03 |
| sileht | gordc, good jobs, no more annoying relationships between tables | 16:03 |
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| gordc | sileht: agreed. :) | 16:04 |
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| dhellmann | eglynn, gordc: have a sec to talk about pycadf? | 16:27 |
| eglynn | dhellmann: sure | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: I'm reading the meeting logs for the meetings I missed this week, and I noticed you said in the project meeting that the telemetry-specs repo would have specs for pycadf | 16:28 |
| dhellmann | I understood that to be an oslo lib. It doesn't matter, and I'm happy to have telemetry take over managing it, but we need to make that official if you want to do it. | 16:28 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: well just meant that pycadf was part of the telemetry program | 16:29 |
| eglynn | dhellmann: ... am I wrong on that? | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: right, that's what I meant: officially, it's part of the oslo program | 16:29 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: ... a-ha, apologies, I was reading from the infra config I think | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/programs.yaml#n156 | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | I think we put it there because "it's a library" :-) | 16:30 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: I think the infra-config have diverged from governance | 16:30 |
| eglynn | dhellmann: one sec til I dig | 16:30 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, that's likely | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: like I said, it's not a big deal to me who manages it, I just don't want any confusion for contributors on where to put the specs. | 16:32 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: it makes quite a bit of sense for telemetry to own it, if the team wants to, and it's a simple enough change to make | 16:33 |
| eglynn | dhellmann: well it's absolutely fine in oslo, I just thought I had read in infra-config that it was under the ceilo umbrella | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | although we will have several oslo libs depending on it, iirc | 16:33 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: ... but maybe I dreamt that up | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: ok, just making clear that I'm not annoyed :-) | 16:33 |
| eglynn | dhellmann: cool :) | 16:33 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: nope I can't find the reference I thought I saw in infra-config, so I stand corrected on that! | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: modules/gerritbot/files/gerritbot_channel_config.yaml lists openstack/pycadf under projects for openstack-ceilometer | 16:37 |
| dhellmann | but that's just a bot config | 16:37 |
| eglynn | dhellmann: a-ha, that must have been it ... phew not going senile, yet! :) | 16:37 |
| dhellmann | tell me how you feel about that at the end of this release cycle. ;-) | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/telemetry-specs: Gnocchi specs https://review.openstack.org/94834 | 16:42 |
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| gordc | dhellmann: eglynn: sorry about that stepped out for lunch. i probably missed items on pycadf... but i agree it's fine to leave in oslo for now. | 17:41 |
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| eglynn | gordc: yeap, the confusion was caused by me misinterpreting the gerrit bot config in the infra repo | 17:42 |
| gordc | eglynn: yeah, i guess we can switch that to oslo since they have their own channel now? | 17:43 |
| eglynn | gordc: sure if that works | 17:43 |
| gordc | eglynn: ok. i'll look to do that later. | 17:44 |
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| eglynn | gordc: cool, though I wouldn't say it's high priority one way or the other | 17:46 |
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| * eglynn just jumped to the wrong conclusion when he read https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/gerritbot/files/gerritbot_channel_config.yaml#L87 | 17:46 | |
| gordc | eglynn: agreed. later == sometime in next few months. :) | 17:47 |
| eglynn | gordc: LOL :) ... Mañana | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/telemetry-specs: Spec for metering LBaas https://review.openstack.org/94958 | 17:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: sync oslo https://review.openstack.org/94883 | 18:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/telemetry-specs: Add .gitignore https://review.openstack.org/94841 | 19:25 |
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| lcostantino | hi | 19:52 |
| lcostantino | do you guys think it would be acceptable to have a central pollster plugin that monitor nova compute services an if it's down produce a sample, so an alarm can be triggered? | 20:04 |
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