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| eglynn | ildikov: good morning! | 08:37 |
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| eglynn | ildikov: I was thinking of proposing a new docco patch adding a "key concepts" to the admin guide | 08:37 |
| eglynn | ... i.e. definitions of meter, sample, statistics, pipeline etc. | 08:37 |
| ildikov | eglynn: morning | 08:37 |
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| eglynn | ... i.e. same kinda jazz as I wrote for http://openstack.redhat.com/CeilometerQuickStart 'basic concepts' section | 08:38 |
| eglynn | ... just wondering if that would step on your toes? | 08:38 |
| eglynn | (... i.e. if you were gonna define those terms elsewhere in the admin guide?) | 08:38 |
| ildikov | eglynn: do you mean having a separate section? | 08:38 |
| eglynn | ildikov: ... or in an existing section, e.g. in the Introduction section | 08:39 |
| ildikov | eglynn: it should fit in the Intro or the System architecture sections | 08:40 |
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| eglynn | ildikov: cool! I'll go ahead and bang out some 'orrible XML so :) | 08:40 |
| ildikov | eglynn: and as those are not really separate ones | 08:41 |
| ildikov | eglynn: I'm wondering if you could send me the plain text and I can paste it to the right place | 08:41 |
| ildikov | eglynn: TBH, I don't want to merge | 08:41 |
| eglynn | ildikov: sure if that your preference | 08:41 |
| ildikov | eglynn: BTW, the Alarming section is finished from your side? | 08:42 |
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| eglynn | ildikov: plain text == "*really* plain text" or plain text == "text with basic markup"? | 08:42 |
| ildikov | eglynn: Anne is already overwrote one of my patches, I do not want to experience it more times... | 08:42 |
| ildikov | eglynn: also I have a whole pipeline section | 08:42 |
| ildikov | eglynn: so if you write anything in that should be pretty much lightweight | 08:43 |
| samm | eglynn: I am able to start services in Ceilometer, but I getting Authorization Failed. error with command ceilometr meter-list | 08:43 |
| eglynn | ildikov: re. alarming, the first cut is done, but I was thinking of expanding with some CLI examples | 08:43 |
| eglynn | ildikov: ... are you using CLI examples inline? | 08:44 |
| ildikov | eglynn: what about finishing that first before messing up my part? ;) | 08:44 |
| ildikov | eglynn: I wanted to add some, but I'm still fighting with the Keystone issue in my Devstack env | 08:44 |
| samm | eglynn: I am getting error: http://pastebin.com/zw75PqgR | 08:45 |
| eglynn | ildikov: eh, ok, I'll just concentrate on the alarming section so for now | 08:45 |
| ildikov | eglynn: cool, tnx | 08:46 |
| eglynn | samm: that error suggests that the ceilometer user is not authorized for the service tenant | 08:46 |
| eglynn | samm: you need to check which user is identified by the UUID 2d67d5e520cf4172b92b794aebe5ca86 | 08:46 |
| eglynn | samm: and which tenant is identified by the UUID 742f7e202d7f41d1a61cdc091e37d1a9 | 08:47 |
| eglynn | samm: obviously I can't tell what these UUIDs mean from a distance, as they are specific to your deployment | 08:47 |
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| eglynn | samm: here are some notes I wrote up a long time ago on manual setup of ceilometer user/tenant/role etc. *before* all of this was automated by typical distros ... | 08:53 |
| eglynn | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_OpenStack_ceilometer_install | 08:53 |
| eglynn | samm: scroll to section "Create the appropriate users and roles" | 08:53 |
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| samm | eglynn: Here role admin is used , but somewhere role ResselerAdmin is used, is there any difference | 09:04 |
| eglynn-afk | samm: ResellerAdmin is mainly a swift thing | 09:07 |
| eglynn-afk | ... the swifties like to do things differently | 09:07 |
| eglynn-afk | ... for most purposes you need the admin role for the ceilometer user | 09:07 |
| eglynn-afk | ... please set *both* | 09:07 |
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| samm | eglynn: In keystone_authtoken admin_tenant_name=services ..... value is given but we havnt create any tenant with this name, so why it is used | 09:18 |
| eglynn | samm: that's in your config file, right? | 09:19 |
| samm | yes | 09:19 |
| eglynn | samm: so you must ensure that the correct users and tenants exist | 09:20 |
| eglynn | samm: normally this is automated by the distro installation | 09:20 |
| samm | ok | 09:20 |
| eglynn | samm: but you've chosen to this manually, right? | 09:20 |
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| cdent | eglynn: can I borrow your brain for a quick moment? | 09:36 |
| eglynn | cdent: just doing a 1:1 right now, can I ping you back when that ends? | 09:39 |
| cdent | of course, I'll be about | 09:39 |
| eglynn | cdent: cool, thanks! | 09:40 |
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| samm | eglynn: I have done the changes, but getting error: EndpointNotFound: publicURL endpoint for network service not found | 10:36 |
| samm | eglynn: it occurs for ceilometer-agent-central | 10:36 |
| eglynn | samm: are you using neutron? | 10:37 |
| samm | eglynn: no | 10:37 |
| samm | for what it is? | 10:38 |
| eglynn | samm: I suspect that central-agent error may be due to the new LBaaS/FWaaS/VPNaaS pollsters not gracefully handling the use of nova-networking instead of neutron | 10:38 |
| eglynn | samm: what is neutron? | 10:38 |
| eglynn | samm: neutron is the networking service in openstack ... a replacement for the old nova-network service | 10:39 |
| eglynn | samm: can you file a bug on that error message? | 10:40 |
| samm | eglynn: so we have to install it | 10:40 |
| eglynn | samm: ... however that issue should not stop you getting ceilometer to work for other meters, such as compute-release | 10:40 |
| samm | eglynn: then | 10:40 |
| eglynn | samm: no, ceilometer should work with nova-network also | 10:40 |
| eglynn | samm: ... so those ungraceful error messages are a bug | 10:41 |
| eglynn | samm: ... I suspect you're using nova-network, right? | 10:41 |
| samm | I am using swift with keystone, only and also I have installed RabbitMQ, nothing other than this | 10:41 |
| eglynn | samm: no nova? | 10:41 |
| eglynn | samm: no glance? | 10:42 |
| samm | not yet | 10:42 |
| samm | sorry, but no | 10:42 |
| eglynn | samm: eh, then there's very little for ceilometer to actually meter | 10:42 |
| samm | Ok then I can install nova | 10:42 |
| eglynn | samm: there need to be existing resources for ceilometer to meter stuff | 10:42 |
| eglynn | samm: ... by resources, I mean instance, images, or volumes, that kind of user-visible cloud resource | 10:43 |
| eglynn | cdent: hola! | 10:43 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... just getting back to you after punting earlier | 10:43 |
| cdent | hola, I need to you to confirm/deny a sequence of suppositions to help me debug some gate stuff: | 10:44 |
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| eglynn | cdent: I'll do my best | 10:44 |
| cdent | a) the compute agents publishes samples to the central collector via an rcp cast() (until the notifications patchset goes in), correct? | 10:44 |
| samm | eglynn: Like I want to extract info like object sizw, incoming , outgoing bytes, so for this also it is necessary | 10:45 |
| eglynn | yeap | 10:45 |
| samm | OK I have to install NOVA, any anything else | 10:45 |
| samm | apart from celiometr, swift,keystone, rabbiatMQ and Nova | 10:45 |
| eglynn | samm: ok, if you only need to meter swift, and *definitely* don't need any compute resources, then I guess you could avoid installing nova | 10:46 |
| cdent | b) If the collector is not yet listening to the AMQP bus, those casts are lost (part of the reason for notifications is they are not), correct? | 10:46 |
| samm | eglynn: I am getting error: Could not load 'database': 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'find'...............for ceilometer-collector | 10:48 |
| eglynn | well sileht can probably give a more complete answer to how oslo-messaging behaves when there is no active target for an RPC cast | 10:48 |
| cdent | if b is true then c) when devstack starts ceilometer (https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/ceilometer#L225) it is possible for ceilometer-acompue to finish its first round of polling before the collector can hear notifications | 10:48 |
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| eglynn | samm: have you created the ceilometer DB and added the config to the ceilometer.conf? | 10:49 |
| cdent | my analysis of gate logs shows acompute ending its first polling round before the logs show the collection connecting the amqp | 10:49 |
| samm | yes | 10:49 |
| eglynn | samm: ... have you tried comparing to a devtsack-generated config as I suggested last week? | 10:49 |
| cdent | this seems like not just a problem for javelin2 but potentially for a fair few other things | 10:49 |
| eglynn | cdent: one sec | 10:49 |
| cdent | so I'd like to reorder start_ceilometer (the link above) to get listeners running before producers | 10:49 |
| * cdent nods | 10:49 | |
| samm | eglynn: it is: connection = mysql://root:root@127.0.0.1/ceilometer?charset=utf8 | 10:49 |
| cdent | (just dumping the info, respond at your leisure) | 10:50 |
| samm | eglynn: my db password is root | 10:50 |
| samm | eglynn: I have following option ceilometer-agent-notification ceilometer-api ceilometer-expirer ceilometer-agent-central ceilometer-alarm-evaluator ceilometer-collector ceilometer-send-sample ceilometer-agent-compute ceilometer-alarm-notifier ceilometer-dbsync certutil, So Can I fulfill my requirement with collector only | 10:53 |
| eglynn | cdent: just did a quick experiment as a sanity check | 10:54 |
| eglynn | cdent: stopping the collector so that several compute agent polling cycles are missed, then restarting | 10:54 |
| eglynn | cdent: the samples for the down-collector period are recovered after collector restart | 10:55 |
| cdent | how long? | 10:55 |
| samm | eglynn: I havnt find any tool or devtsack that automatically install it | 10:55 |
| eglynn | cdent: so doesn't seem to require that listener-before-producer strict start sequence | 10:55 |
| eglynn | cdent: collector down for 2 times 60s polling interval | 10:55 |
| eglynn | samm: well I pointed you towards possibly using RDO last week ... packstack provides a convenient mechanism to install only the services that you want | 10:57 |
| cdent | If your analysis is correct and the gap is not long (for the recovery) then there's some other problem going on with pollings making it to the collector (or data store) | 10:57 |
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| eglynn | cdent: hmmm, lemme try again but *also* restart the compute agent | 10:58 |
| eglynn | samm: for a new user, my recommendation would be to use use either devstack or a distro installer to get started (as opposed to trying to set it all up manually) | 10:59 |
| eglynn | samm: that way you're gauranteed a sane configuration, all set-up steps automated, correct versions of dependencies etc. | 10:59 |
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| eglynn | cdent: yeah, again with stratching the surface too deeply, it seems to be behaving as expected | 11:01 |
| eglynn | cdent: yeah, again *without stratching the surface too deeply, it seems to be behaving as expected | 11:01 |
| samm | eglynn: I cant get how to install it. Are you saying about link: http://openstack.redhat.com/CeilometerQuickStart | 11:01 |
| * cdent_ hmmms | 11:01 | |
| eglynn | samm: that's an intro to ceilometer specifically | 11:01 |
| eglynn | samm: here's general install instructions http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 11:02 |
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| eglynn | samm: note I'm not endorsing RDO over any other distro, just suggesting that you use *some* distro | 11:02 |
| cdent | When I get home I'll see if I can create a inspectable test, something fishy is going on. Thanks eglynn. | 11:02 |
| eglynn | samm: I'm sure the Mirantis folks would be happy to point you to some links on getting started with the Mirantis distro (so that you've a choice of which to use) | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Enhancing the make_test_data script https://review.openstack.org/102502 | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding init into tools folder https://review.openstack.org/109946 | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding script for TripleO default set of test data https://review.openstack.org/109947 | 11:03 |
| cdent | In fact I think I'll head home now, by way of some lunch | 11:04 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, samm yeah we would :) | 11:04 |
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| eglynn | cdent: so the bahavior you're seeing is that the first compute agent polling samples are lost if the collector hasn't already started? | 11:04 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, have a nice one | 11:04 |
| DinaBelova | samm, http://docs.mirantis.com/openstack/fuel/fuel-5.0/ - some docs about the last Mirantis OpenStack distro :) | 11:05 |
| samm | eglynn: Yes mainly I have to use RHEL5 | 11:05 |
| eglynn | samm: both RDO and the Mirantis distro are supported on RHEL5 | 11:10 |
| samm | Eglynn: I am using Mirantis, that is of 3GB, that means I just have to install it and then check the config file | 11:13 |
| eglynn | samm: 3GB? | 11:13 |
| samm | eglynn: yes from link https://software.mirantis.com/v2/ | 11:14 |
| samm | image file | 11:14 |
| eglynn | samm: well, I haven't used the Mirantis distro, so I don't know if the image file should be 3Gb in size or not | 11:15 |
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| samm | Is there any good link for RDO | 11:16 |
| eglynn | samm: as per http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart, everything is driven via yum ... sudo yum install -y http://rdo.fedorapeople.org/rdo-release.rpm ... sudo yum install -y openstack-packstack | 11:17 |
| eglynn | samm: i.e. it's not just a single image, rather individual RPMs are installed as required by packstack | 11:18 |
| eglynn | samm: see packstack --help | 11:18 |
| samm | I have tried it, that get stuck at a point | 11:18 |
| samm | eglynn: I will try it again | 11:19 |
| eglynn | samm: note there is also an #rdo channel for RDO-specific issues | 11:20 |
| eglynn | samm: whereas the #openstack-ceilometer channel should be used for pure upstream disucssion | 11:20 |
| eglynn | hi ceilometer cores, I'd love to get gordc's bigger-data-sql spec landed today https://review.openstack.org/101009 | 11:22 |
| eglynn | ... cough, cough, hinit, hint :) | 11:22 |
| samm | eglynn: OK I will ask there sor any prob in RDO, that means there is no other way to solve the issue | 11:23 |
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| idegtiarov | Hi core ceilometer team: I have prepared two little patch-sets first https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112582/ is completed using of events i.e. adds compares operators for traits, and second patch is refactor of hbase.utils. Please look on them when you will have some time. | 12:44 |
| idegtiarov | * second is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111270/ | 12:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rikimaru Honjo proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Set page size when Glance API request is called https://review.openstack.org/106304 | 13:01 |
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| gordc | ityaptin: i made a comment to the performance test start doc... not sure if you saw it | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Rikimaru Honjo proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add the function of deleting alarm history https://review.openstack.org/87869 | 13:17 |
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| ityaptin | gordc: Hi! Thanks! I'll take a look now :) | 13:27 |
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| gordc | ityaptin: thanks | 13:28 |
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| ityaptin | gordc: About your comment. You may use smaller sample-batch-size and decrease interval between 'start' and 'end' params. It will reduce rabbit loading. | 13:31 |
| ityaptin | gordc: like this "--sample-batch-size=1 --start 10 --end 10" | 13:32 |
| gordc | ityaptin: ok. let me try that | 13:32 |
| gordc | i had to tweak code abit because it seems like the python code looks for 'stop' value rather than 'end'.. and it doesn't seem to pick up bin_dir param | 13:33 |
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| ityaptin | gordc: ok, I'll fix it. | 13:39 |
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| ityaptin | eglynn: Hi! May you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100558/, please :) | 15:51 |
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| eglynn | ityaptin: about to go into a meeting, but will try to get to it soon | 15:52 |
| ityaptin | eglynn: Thank you :) | 15:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Support for per disk volume measurements https://review.openstack.org/111038 | 15:58 |
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| rbak | Does anyone know if there is a way to get the number of neutron networks or cinder volumes at a given time using ceilometer? | 17:00 |
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