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| amalagon | jd__: hey jd, I find myself needing to know the timestamps of the first/last data point of a timeseries, for work on custom aggregation. Other than retrieving the stored data via get_measure and finding the first/last timestamps of the returned rolled-up data, is there any other way I can find this information out? | 06:01 |
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| jd__ | amalagon: that's the only way | 06:58 |
| jd__ | amalagon: you can use that way and we can optimize it later if needed | 06:58 |
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| cdent | yay, I was going to encourage you to run eglynn | 10:23 |
| eglynn | cdent: thank you sir! :) | 10:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/126673 | 10:59 |
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| cdent | jd__ I'm trying to set up optional use of ceilo agent coordination in devstack. From a lot to not at all, how much do I have to worry about a dirty memcached between devstack runs, if memcached is the backend being used? | 14:18 |
| cdent | or does tooz take care of it? | 14:19 |
| amalagon | eglynn: hey | 14:20 |
| jd__ | cdent: not at all, otherwise it'd be a bug | 14:21 |
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| cdent | that's what I hoped, but wanted to be sure | 14:22 |
| cdent | thanks | 14:22 |
| amalagon | eglynn: apologies, didn't realize the time | 14:26 |
| eglynn | amalagon: np! | 14:28 |
| amalagon | eglynn: are you free right now? I do have one question for you regarding anchor points | 14:29 |
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| ajayaa | Hi guys. | 15:21 |
| ajayaa | Does ceilometer support keystone domains? | 15:21 |
| ajayaa | Something like, if the usage goes beyond a certain X% in a domain then raise a alarm. | 15:22 |
| ajayaa | DinaBelova ^^ | 15:22 |
| ajayaa | eglynn ^^ | 15:23 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: AFAIK we don't recording the keystone domain in any samples | 15:24 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: so we could alarm on a domain selectively | 15:24 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: is that domain of the owner generally exposed in the representation of the resource? | 15:25 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ... e.g. in a nova notification relating to an instance? | 15:25 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ... or in the representation of an image returned by the glance API? | 15:25 |
| ajayaa | eglynn, generally no. | 15:26 |
| ajayaa | eglynn, nope | 15:26 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ... ok, so ceilo would not be in a position to record the domain in that case | 15:26 |
| ajayaa | egynn, I was just having a discussion with dolphm(former PTL of keystone) regarding use of domains. | 15:26 |
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| ajayaa | It seems that none of the services other than keystone understand domains. | 15:27 |
| ajayaa | eglynn, Domains are a container for a project. So naturally I would like to record usage in a domain which would essentially aggregate resource usage across projects it contains. | 15:28 |
| ajayaa | eglynn, But it seems that even ceilometer does not understand domains. | 15:29 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ceilometer can only understand the data that it's given by the services :) | 15:30 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: so if the services don't surface the domain, we're not going to record it | 15:30 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: however, does keystone expose a list of projects in each domain? | 15:30 |
| ajayaa | eglynn, yes. | 15:31 |
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| ajayaa | eglynn, It should not be difficult to provide such a functionality then, right? | 15:31 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ... if so, for small domains you could conceivably issue multiple queries on the ceilo-api on each individual project ID and aggregate the results | 15:31 |
| ajayaa | resource usage in a domain? | 15:31 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ... or issue a complex query combining the condition on project IDs with logical OR | 15:32 |
| ajayaa | eglynn, I can do that as an end user. I was having a discussion with keystone-devs regarding usage of domains. | 15:33 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: it would be arduous for ceilometer to have to internally cross reference every new project-ID we see with a domain-ID provided by keystone | 15:33 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ... especially seeing as this domain idea seems limited to keystone for now | 15:33 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ... i.e. seeing as the other project don't seem to have adopted it as a native concept | 15:34 |
| ajayaa | eglynn, The implementation could be different. For e.g. If resource usage for a domain is asked, ceilometer could call keystone api to get projects in a domain and then calculate usage in those projects. | 15:35 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: true enough | 15:36 |
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| ajayaa | eglynn, actually the only places domains make sense is quota, ceilometer and keystone. | 15:36 |
| ajayaa | Other services need not be aware of domains. | 15:37 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: before jumping into supporting the domain concept directly in ceilometer, I would like to get a sense of how widely adopted the concept will become | 15:37 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ... i.e. whether users are really rolling out multi-domain clouds | 15:38 |
| eglynn | ajayaa: ... could be an interesting topic to discuss at the design summit | 15:38 |
| ajayaa | eglynn, yes. That would be nice. | 15:38 |
| ajayaa | eglynn, unfortunately I won't be attending the design summit. :( | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hang Liu proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add user_metadata to network samples https://review.openstack.org/123646 | 15:59 |
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| jd__ | gordc: you did it! | 17:30 |
| gordc | jd__: yay! my laptop stays intact... unless the checks fail... | 17:33 |
| jd__ | Lenovo is crossing its fingers | 17:33 |
| gordc | jd__: serves me right for trying to do 'easy' patch of sync'ing oslo. | 17:33 |
| gordc | jd__: crossing its fingers will not help Lenovo... | 17:34 |
| jd__ | not sure it actually has fingers | 17:36 |
| cdent | tentacles | 17:38 |
| gordc | whatever. if i need to rebase that patch i'm going to use the hammer of thor on my Lenovo. | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Komei Shimamura proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Implements: blueprint kafka-publisher https://review.openstack.org/126964 | 18:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Komei Shimamura proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Implements: blueprint kafka-publisher https://review.openstack.org/126964 | 18:21 |
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| jd__ | gordc: https://twitter.com/juldanjou/status/519920034421153792 | 18:39 |
| jd__ | rofl | 18:40 |
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| gordc | jd__: lol! | 18:41 |
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| jd__ | gordc: pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. | 19:22 |
| jd__ | ROFL | 19:22 |
| gordc | jd__: :) i'm going to write that everytime i try to sneak in code. | 19:25 |
| gordc | jd__: i wonder how long it'll work... | 19:25 |
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| jd__ | gordc: I know a thing or two with computers I'll catch you | 20:36 |
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| gordc | jd__: will a beer get you off my tail? | 20:37 |
| jd__ | gordc: one not, two or three might | 20:38 |
| gordc | jd__: lol cool cool. i'll just scatter beers around when i sneak stuff in. | 20:38 |
| jd__ | gordc: bring packs for the next summit :p | 20:39 |
| gordc | jd__: done... now i just need to think of an excuse for customs for why i have no clothes but just beer in my luggage. | 20:40 |
| jd__ | gordc: you won't be asked by French customs, they are either drinking coffee or on strike | 20:40 |
| gordc | jd__: they're on strike here in montreal too... a french thing i guess. :) | 20:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Komei Shimamura proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add a Kafka publisher as a Ceilometer publisher https://review.openstack.org/126989 | 20:52 |
| cdent | jd__: does tooz support auth? if not are there plans? | 21:04 |
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| jd__ | cdent: depends on the driver I'd say | 21:28 |
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| cdent | It's kind of a problem with at least memcached, a demo patchset forthcoming in a couple minutes, we'll probably need to document some advice or do...something | 21:29 |
| cdent | gimme a sec and you'll see | 21:29 |
| gordc | flwang1: hey, sorry i randomly left yesterday. i was busy packing and i forgot to check your messages | 21:30 |
| flwang1 | gordc: no worries :) | 21:30 |
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| flwang1 | gordc: I'm just not sure if it's a valid requirement from ceilometer developer view :) | 21:31 |
| gordc | flwang1: i think it's a valid bp... the only other information i have on it is that i think we stopped work on it because we were considering dynamic pipeline configuration (ie. storing in db and not having to restart agents to pick up changes) | 21:31 |
| flwang1 | gordc: it would be awesome | 21:32 |
| gordc | flwang1: yeah. when i say 'valid' i mean i'm not against it but i'm not going to work on it. :) | 21:32 |
| flwang1 | and you know, another benefit is the config will be cross machines | 21:32 |
| gordc | flwang1: yeah. it was an idea we were discussing at last summit... it just wasn't on anyones priority list | 21:33 |
| flwang1 | is there any bp or summit topic will touch the dynamic pipeline? | 21:33 |
| gordc | flwang1: let me try looking for it. it was an off-session talk so we might not have written anything down formally | 21:33 |
| flwang1 | gordc: thought it sounds good, but it's a little bit complex to store the pipeline config into a sql backend database | 21:34 |
| flwang1 | unless we store something as a whole dict | 21:34 |
| gordc | flwang1: yeah. we didn't really go into implementation... we just did a quick session on use cases | 21:35 |
| gordc | flwang1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/dynamic-meters | 21:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Demo potential service denial via coordination https://review.openstack.org/127032 | 21:37 |
| cdent | jd__: ^ | 21:37 |
| flwang1 | gordc: seems we have a lot of good stuff in the backlog :) | 21:38 |
| gordc | flwang1: yeah... if we only had resources. *hint* | 21:39 |
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| * cdent looks at gordc | 21:40 | |
| cdent | now look what you did! | 21:40 |
| gordc | lol | 21:40 |
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| gordc | cdent: too aggressive? | 21:40 |
| cdent | apparently not | 21:40 |
| gordc | round 2! | 21:41 |
| cdent | you might be amused by the patchset I just sent up gordc | 21:41 |
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| gordc | cdent: was just going to take a look a it. | 21:41 |
| cdent | I started the work because I was wanting a tool to inspect group membership | 21:42 |
| cdent | but as I worked with it I realized, hmmm, might be a problem here | 21:42 |
| cdent | a logical and perhaps expected problem, but not one we've really talked about | 21:43 |
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| gordc | cdent: hmmm.. yeah i think i see your exploit. | 21:46 |
| cdent | i'm doing a run now with 10 instances and two compute agents | 21:47 |
| cdent | they start up and do a 6/4 split on the instances they are watching | 21:47 |
| cdent | i run the --fake and now I'm 0/0 | 21:47 |
| cdent | with about 15 members of the group | 21:47 |
| cdent | It recovers just fine when you kill off the fakers | 21:48 |
| gordc | would appending some sort of *secret* uuid/key to the group avoid this scenario? | 21:48 |
| cdent | yes, but you'd have to share the secret | 21:49 |
| cdent | and one of the things that everyone liked early on was the lack of sharing between group members | 21:49 |
| * gordc wondering if there's a non-code fix for avoiding this. | 21:49 | |
| cdent | firewall or port-obscure memcached would be two | 21:49 |
| gordc | cdent: yeah. it seems like something we should doc at the very least... we're still missing docs on multiple agents | 21:50 |
| cdent | might be a way to put something in tooz instead of ceilometer, such that the backend_url could hold the secret or the auth | 21:50 |
| * cdent notes that in gerrit | 21:52 | |
| cdent | anyway, it is way past my EOD, I just wanted to get this done and satisfy my concern, now that I've waved the flag and someone has seen it I think I can call it a night | 21:52 |
| gordc | i was going to say... | 21:53 |
| gordc | nice discovery btw | 21:53 |
| cdent | this is where I was four hours ago, making some notes for something I'd do tomorrow: https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent-rhat/20141008 | 21:53 |
| cdent | but then the hook set and I got reeled in | 21:53 |
| cdent | right, night night | 21:54 |
| * cdent waves | 21:54 | |
| gordc | laters | 21:54 |
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| gordc | laters | 22:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Fix recording failure for system pollster https://review.openstack.org/126871 | 22:18 |
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