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| openstackgerrit | Komei Shimamura proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Implements: blueprint kafka-publisher https://review.openstack.org/126964 | 00:58 |
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| DinaBelova | folks, I suppose gerritbot decided to leave us for today :) | 10:18 |
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| cdent | eglynn: Yes, memcached should probably always be appropriately firewalled off. All I'm really saying is a) we should write that down when we get around to writing down the coordination docs and | 10:33 |
| eglynn | cdent: cool | 10:33 |
| eglynn | cdent: BTW I just asked over #os-ks for some keystone perspective on the memcache auth discussion on that review | 10:33 |
| cdent | b) I don't think it is unreasonable for the coordination stuff to potentially use a shared secret (as most of the other services do) | 10:33 |
| eglynn | cdent: yep ... I guess in this case we'd need to determine if SASL-based auth would suffice, and be worth the effort of switch to a binary-capable memcache client | 10:36 |
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| cdent | zookeeper has "pluggable authentication" evidently | 10:39 |
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| eglynn | jd__: quick tooz question? | 11:44 |
| eglynn | jd__: I noticed that the nova zk service group uses python-zookeeper, but also requires evzookeeper to keep eventlet happy IIUC | 11:44 |
| eglynn | jd__: does tooz also need some similar special handling for eventlet, or does kazoo have it covered? | 11:44 |
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| cdent | eglynn: is this coordination inspector thing something I should clean up to go in bin or tools or should I just keep it in my own toolchest? | 11:52 |
| eglynn | cdent: yep, I think it would be useful to contribute it | 11:53 |
| cdent | ✔ | 11:53 |
| _elena_ | eglynn, jd__, gordc, sileht, may you pay attention to my CR https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120287/, please? | 12:03 |
| eglynn | _elena_: /me looks | 12:04 |
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| nellysmitt | hi can anyone explain me or give a link on info how to build docs using tox? | 12:32 |
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| sileht | nellysmitt, tox -edocs | 12:43 |
| sileht | nellysmitt, and then the resulting html page at located here : doc/build/html | 12:44 |
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| _elena_ | eglynn, thanks) | 12:51 |
| DinaBelova | nellysmitt, please be careful :) sphinx is super-sensitive :D | 12:52 |
| nellysmitt | sileht, thx | 12:52 |
| nellysmitt | what do you mean by careful? :) | 12:52 |
| DinaBelova | nellysmitt, I was fighting with the *right* indents :D still remember this nightmare | 12:53 |
| DinaBelova | when I fixed the docs :) | 12:53 |
| DinaBelova | I made a mistake | 12:53 |
| DinaBelova | and could not find it ~2hours | 12:53 |
| DinaBelova | wrong indent... | 12:53 |
| nellysmitt | uh ok ... I'm fighting with everything it seems :( | 12:53 |
| nellysmitt | will be another fight, but thanks for the warning ;) | 12:54 |
| DinaBelova | nellysmitt, np :) good luck and please ask help if something goes wrong :) | 12:54 |
| nellysmitt | ok, I will :) but nothing compares with the feeling when you find your mistake after several hours :D | 12:55 |
| DinaBelova | that's true :) | 12:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Srinivas Sakhamuri proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow collector service database connection retry https://review.openstack.org/127128 | 13:38 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: no idea, harlowja might know | 14:11 |
| eglynn | jd__: fair nuffski | 14:12 |
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| eglynn | cdent: interesting ... https://review.openstack.org/122037 | 14:29 |
| eglynn | cdent: TL;DR: the keystone folks are adding the capability to choose the binary memcache client (could be the first step to supporting SASL auth) | 14:29 |
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| jd__ | I love to think that we are not responsible on the bad practice of the global engine facade here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125181/8/specs/kilo/make-enginefacade-a-facade.rst | 14:35 |
| jd__ | :) | 14:35 |
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| gordc | jd__: you have a short form of that bp? | 14:38 |
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| jd__ | gordc: no | 14:38 |
| jd__ | but TL;DR is nobody understand how to use a database | 14:39 |
| jd__ | which is something I know since I started hacking on OpenStack in 2011 | 14:39 |
| gordc | jd__: true story. | 14:39 |
| jd__ | by nobody I meant "most developers" | 14:39 |
| gordc | jd__: i'll save that bp for later when i have a box of cookies to snack on. | 14:39 |
| jd__ | don't you have cookies in the office? | 14:40 |
| gordc | jd__: these people are vultures. | 14:40 |
| gordc | jd__: once they sense food, it's gone in minutes. | 14:40 |
| jd__ | gordc: you need to sharpen, nobody told it'd be easy | 14:41 |
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| gordc | jd__: i'm training. i'm going to put a camera in the kitchen i think so i know when they stock up. | 14:41 |
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| gordc | it'll be my full time job for next few weeks. | 14:42 |
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| cdent | jd__: which "we" do you mean in terms of not responsible? | 14:47 |
| cdent | also: thank goodness for zzzeek coming on the scene | 14:47 |
| jd__ | cdent: the Ceilometer devs | 14:48 |
| jd__ | I'm amused to see "basic" errors such having singleton pattern without any lock with people also pledging to use eventlet and all | 14:49 |
| jd__ | even having global variable on itself | 14:49 |
| jd__ | while a lot of people (used to) spit on Ceilometer code quality | 14:50 |
| cdent | DinaBelova: I wiggled mtreinish direclty to get that +2 on turning the test back on. I assume the Sean is not really paying much attention right now: he's a new dad. | 14:50 |
| cdent | jd__: presumably oslo to the rescue (eventually) on a lot of this stuff? | 14:51 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, wow! | 14:51 |
| jd__ | cdent: yup, oslo.db will | 14:52 |
| DinaBelova | yeah, I guess it's hard time for him :) and happy :) | 14:52 |
| eglynn | cdent: on un-skip the nova notification test in tempest? | 14:52 |
| eglynn | cdent: nice one! :) | 14:52 |
| cdent | the rationale I used was that it would help to exercise the run_process USE_SCREEN changes | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: update database dispatcher to use events db https://review.openstack.org/127266 | 14:53 |
| eglynn | ah, so gentle persuasion works better than holding feet over hot coals :) | 14:54 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, the thing is that direct pinging fails some time as well :D | 14:55 |
| * eglynn adds dkranz to that review also | 14:55 | |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, thanks! | 14:56 |
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| cdent | the trick seems to be making it seem like it is for them that you are making the reminder. you're doing them a favor so in return they do you one ;) | 14:57 |
| * eglynn is gonna lurk & learn over on #os-qa, next time cdent goes a-hunting for +2s ;) | 14:59 | |
| cdent | watched pots never boil | 14:59 |
| eglynn | LOL :) | 14:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add a tool to inspect coordination groups https://review.openstack.org/127271 | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add role assignment notifications for identity https://review.openstack.org/119597 | 15:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Srinivas Sakhamuri proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow collector service database connection retry https://review.openstack.org/127128 | 15:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Komei Shimamura proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add a Kafka publisher as a Ceilometer publisher https://review.openstack.org/126989 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: add mailmap to avoid dup of authors https://review.openstack.org/126566 | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: update database dispatcher to use events db https://review.openstack.org/127266 | 15:49 |
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| nealph_ | eglynn: quick plug for the config via data store spec at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127086/. | 16:04 |
| eglynn | nealph_: cool, will add to my list | 16:05 |
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| nealph_ | eglynn: thanks...just a sort of a "sanity check" to make sure I'm on track with our previous discussions. | 16:05 |
| nealph_ | I've not sphinx built it yet, so I don't want to "release the hounds" just yet on syntax/wordsmithing. :) | 16:06 |
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| gordc | nealph_: i've added flwang1 since he had some interest in it last time i spoke with him. | 16:08 |
| nealph_ | gordc: perfect. thx. | 16:08 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: FTR I'm writing the complete Gnocchi documentation since Monday | 16:18 |
| jd__ | sorry I missed the meeting :) | 16:18 |
| eglynn | jd__: coolness! | 16:19 |
| eglynn | jd__: in-tree docco on stackforge? | 16:19 |
| jd__ | eglynn: yes | 16:19 |
| eglynn | nice :) | 16:19 |
| jd__ | eglynn: I want to impose documentation in patchset once the initial doc is merged | 16:19 |
| eglynn | jd__: i.e. require that all new patchset then include docco updates? | 16:20 |
| eglynn | jd__: yeah, that would make sense | 16:20 |
| jd__ | eglynn: exactly yeah | 16:20 |
| jd__ | if something is changed or added, I want the doc with it | 16:20 |
| jd__ | otherwise it's useless so I don't want it :) | 16:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Hakim Rahme proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Sets default encoding for PostgreSQL testing https://review.openstack.org/127289 | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Extension for moving aggregation in API layer https://review.openstack.org/104415 | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Add support for selectable granularity https://review.openstack.org/103435 | 17:51 |
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| nealph__ | gordc: ping? | 19:30 |
| gordc | nealph__: whatsup? | 19:31 |
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| nealph__ | just looking at your https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125728/ and Dina's note...any reason not to make the dependency explicit? | 19:31 |
| nealph__ | (other than the pain of another patchset/rebase) | 19:32 |
| gordc | nealph__: laziness.lol | 19:32 |
| gordc | i'll make the connection now | 19:32 |
| nealph__ | ha, I hear that. adding dependency after the fact is a pain. | 19:33 |
| nealph__ | for that matter, adding a dependency is a pain. | 19:33 |
| gordc | nealph__: i actually forgot to make dependency... thanks for reminding me. | 19:33 |
| gordc | i was going to do it but just plain forgot | 19:34 |
| nealph__ | np. | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: move hbase event driver to event tree https://review.openstack.org/125728 | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: move sql event driver to event tree https://review.openstack.org/125750 | 19:36 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: move db2 and mongo driver to event tree https://review.openstack.org/125758 | 19:36 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: clean capabilities https://review.openstack.org/125771 | 19:36 |
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| nealph__ | gordc: another quick question for you: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91501/ waiting on real-world testing or something else? | 19:40 |
| nealph__ | (I'm finally on a review kick...) | 19:40 |
| gordc | nealph__: yeah. mostly real world testing... | 19:41 |
| nealph__ | gordc: asking since we're on a performance testing kick right now and I *think* we've pulled this down to check it. | 19:41 |
| gordc | nealph__: i think it makes sense (or at least i think the current indices make no sense)... that said, i didn't ever get a chance to verify it and i didn't want it accidentally committed juno | 19:42 |
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| * nealph__ starts asking around the office | 19:42 | |
| gordc | nealph__: i was thinking of making some other changes to the sql (either how we store it in tables or how sqlalchemy builds objects) | 19:43 |
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| gordc | nealph__: but ultimately i figured i should try adding an elasticsearch db first since based on use case it should be better... (or elasticsearch does a great job overselling their purpose) | 19:44 |
| gordc | nealph__: just curious, but do the sql drivers work with your vertica driver or are they not compatible? | 19:47 |
| nealph__ | gordc: that may be...but I think we're sufficiently skeptical at this point that it'll get run through it's paces. | 19:47 |
| gordc | nealph__: was that last comment in regards to ElasticSearch? | 19:48 |
| nealph__ | gordc: the mysql driver? | 19:48 |
| nealph__ | gordc: yep, elasticsearch. skeptical about all performance promises, that is. | 19:49 |
| nealph__ | gordc: not just elasticsearch. "trust, but verify" | 19:49 |
| nealph__ | :) | 19:49 |
| gordc | right... Vertica was based off sql right? there's a good chance i'm just merging different things and i'm talking nonsense | 19:49 |
| gordc | yeah. something we'd need to verify... it does seem to do pretty well with github... and the openstack-qa stuff... i'm definitely not a ES guru though. | 19:51 |
| nealph__ | gordc: Vertica driver was pretty unique...not based on the sql driver. | 19:52 |
| gordc | nealph__: nm wikipedia tells me i'm talking non-sense. | 19:52 |
| gordc | yeah...lol | 19:52 |
| gordc | i just remembered you guys had a vertica driver patch a while back. | 19:53 |
| nealph__ | gordc: odbc-based, actually. | 19:53 |
| nealph__ | gordc: well, actually you're not far off (I had to take a glance at it myself). We had initially tried to use the vertica-sqlalchemy driver, but ran into issues and had to go from scratch. | 19:55 |
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| gordc | nealph__: sure... that's what i was thinking of (makes me look a bit more sane). | 19:57 |
| nealph__ | gordc: performance is pretty good, I would note. | 19:59 |
| gordc | for Vertica? | 19:59 |
| nealph__ | yes, it cooks along pretty good. If you ever get a chance to download the community edition, give it a shot. | 20:00 |
| nealph__ | documentation is pretty spectacular too. (learning to appreciate those things :D) | 20:01 |
| nealph__ | hoping we'll be able to circle back to developing the driver again in the near future, but at the moment it has a couple of blockers that need some time to shake out. | 20:02 |
| gordc | nealph__: cool cool. i need to get some hardware. i get the feeling Vertica will destroy my laptop. | 20:03 |
| nealph__ | gordc: well, our monitoring folks spin it up as part of their stack...2-3 vm's and done on a macbook. | 20:04 |
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| gordc | hmm... maybe i'll give it a try during downtime around summit | 20:06 |
| nealph__ | gordc: but I digress...on those indexes, will have some of our folks pull it down and report back. | 20:07 |
| gordc | nealph__: ok cool. let me know how it goes. | 20:07 |
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