Tuesday, 2014-12-16

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openstackgerritLianhao Lu proposed openstack/ceilometer: Added missing measurements and corrected errors in doc  https://review.openstack.org/14169801:17
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openstackgerritFabio Giannetti proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Notification Filter.  https://review.openstack.org/12841101:51
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add support for dynamic meters  https://review.openstack.org/14023203:07
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/13952706:16
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Adds spec for Hyper-V disk latency metrics  https://review.openstack.org/14109309:17
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openstackgerritLena Novokshonova proposed openstack/ceilometer: Improve tools/make_test_data.sh correctness  https://review.openstack.org/14106111:12
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claudiubDinaBelova: Hello. Can you give a +A on a bp spec? You already did a +2 and there is another +2 on the bp spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141067/13:23
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claudiubgordc: hello. You have voted +2 on a bp spec. The spec has 2 +2's, it just needs a +A. Can you take care of it? :D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141067/14:04
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: indexer: add delete_archive_policy  https://review.openstack.org/14211314:16
dhellmanneglynn-officeafk: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138528/ -- what are the chances of turning that swift integration piece into a standalone library?14:17
dhellmanngordc: ^^14:17
eglynndhellmann: just discussing that with cdent, I think we should follow keystone's approach of a ceilometermiddleware library14:18
dhellmannsounds good14:18
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eglynndhellmann: (i.e. the pattern now followed for the auth_token stuff, that once lived in keystoneclient)14:18
dhellmannit'll be interesting to see what sort of dependencies that library has; it sounds like there's a conflict with oslo.utils as well as oslo.db/sqlalchemy right now14:19
dhellmannI'm not sure how that came to pass, though14:19
eglynnhmmm, we'd need to unpick that14:19
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cdentI think there's a fair bit of dependency stuff that isn't real: is just old knots14:23
cdentAnd that by separating out things like the middleware to other places we'll end up with some good cleanups. Separation is win.14:24
gordcdhellmann: i'm ok with breaking to another library... i think the middleware will need a (possibly substantial) rewrite14:24
cdentit barely does anything, so shouldn't be too much of a big deal, gordc?14:25
gordcclaudiub: sure. i was just letting others review it14:25
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dhellmanncdent: the middleware will need messaging will need utils, but at least you get rid of db14:25
gordccdent: nope. just saying i think it's pretty tightly coupled to the ceilometer pipeline right now14:25
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dhellmannI wonder if it makes sense to write a app-specific middleware?14:26
dhellmannwell, several14:26
gordccdent: we probably need to drop that and make it just emit notifications?14:26
dhellmannwherever you have to plugin one in, make it aware of the application14:26
dhellmanngordc: yeah, I'd expect it to just emit notifications in this case14:26
cdentgordc: yes, just notificaitons would be much better14:27
gordcdhellmann: something similar to the pycadf audit middleware? is that what you're thinking?14:27
dhellmanngordc: yeah14:27
ityaptineglynn: Hi! Do you mind if i continue your work at CR https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103329/?14:27
dhellmanngordc: it might even *be* the pycadf audit middleware14:28
gordcdhellmann: same. that plan works for me.14:28
dhellmannI'm not sure exactly what the piece in the swift pipeline is doing right now14:28
dhellmannit sounds like it's the full ceilometer pipeline though, which seems like overkill14:28
gordcdhellmann: i need to take a look as well... it is the full pipeline if i remember correctly though14:29
dhellmannthat's the only thing that would explain swift failing on a sqlalchemy dependency :-/14:29
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cdentthe fact that it is using the pipeline at all is just wrong: it should produce notifications (from the swift side) that are agnostic about receiver14:30
gordcdhellmann: the sqlalchemy dependency is strange... the pipeline itself doesn't have any req on that.14:30
cdentand the ceilo side, if it feels like it, should hear them14:30
dhellmanngordc: the pipeline is in the ceilometer package, though, which does14:31
gordcdhellmann: ah i see.14:31
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dhellmannthere will be performance implications of notifying on everything14:32
cdentso yeah, get rid of pipeline, extract middleware to own thing, problem "goes away"14:32
* cdent is full of optimism14:32
eglynnthe pipeline usage smells like a copy'n'paste from other agents that emit internal olso.messaging traffic14:32
cdentdhellmann: I think we did some research on that issue a while back14:33
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gordcanyone want to take over the existing spec to move middleware out of ceilometer? or i can rewrite it if there are no takers14:37
cdentI think the existing spec should probably be trashed in favor a fresh start.14:38
cdentIf you're not super keen gordc I can do it.14:38
cdentBut I wouldn't want to take away the pleasure.14:39
gordci was just going to copy/paste the audit middleware spec i wrote and edit it to fit this case.14:39
cdentIf that'll work, go for it.14:39
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gordccdent: ok..i'll create a fresh spec after i grab a coffee14:40
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gordcis there a way to rename the the spec path in blueprints.launchpad?14:49
gordci don't want to steal the original work https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/repackaging-ceilometerclient if i don't need to.14:49
gordcscrew it... trashing it. don't want to waste time on google14:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer-specs: Adds spec for Hyper-V memory metrics collection  https://review.openstack.org/14106714:53
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gordcif anyone is bored and knows the api well. there's this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/140176115:06
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cdentthere's some bad mojo floating around gordc15:11
ityaptineglynn: Hi!15:15
eglynnityaptin: hey, sorry on a call there15:15
eglynnityaptin: yeah, so if you're interested in working on InfluxDB, that's cool with me15:15
ityaptineglynn: ok, cool :)15:16
eglynnityaptin: I was hoping to have a spike ready for kilo-1, but have had too much on my plate with other stuff to get that done15:17
eglynnityaptin: please keep in the loop on whatever progress you make, as I'll have some bandwidth also to contribute I hope15:17
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ityaptineglynn: Ok. At moment I am preparing compatibility to current  gnocchi master.15:21
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: package swift middlware in ceilometermiddleware  https://review.openstack.org/14212915:27
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: indexer: add delete_archive_policy  https://review.openstack.org/14211316:33
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: rest: allow to delete archive policies  https://review.openstack.org/14214816:33
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cdentgordc: you still about?18:21
gordccdent: yep18:22
cdentah, i was just getting ready to write it as a response on middleware spec18:22
gordccdent: you can write it there if you'd like.. whatever works18:23
cdenti'm not sure I can make it make sense so I'll start here:18:23
cdentI think the point sdague was trying to make is that beyond extracting the code to its own library, there's still the remaining major point (from his perspective as grenade/devstack person) that swift needs to be the that install the middleware in _its_ pipeline, not ceilometer18:24
cdentOr more generally: swift needs to own the production of the metrics18:24
cdentthe ordering dependency that is present in the bug he reported is still there if ceilo is somehow responsible for getting the middleware installed and or in place18:25
cdentbasically if the module is extracted as its own module, it has to go in _swifts_ requirements18:25
gordccdent: ordering dependency as in...?18:25
* cdent looks for the grenade review that spawned all this18:26
gordcwell technically if we had a ceilometermiddleware, that would go into swift requirements18:26
cdentyes, exactly, but given history will swift do it?18:27
gordci'm all for swift owning the metric stuff... i don't know if they'll do it.18:27
cdentand at that point why even called it ceilometermiddleware? why not call it "requestcountermiddleware" (or whatever)18:27
gordcthey've historically been a closed box (which is why i mentioned the no-oslo bit in my reply)18:28
cdentI think we should mayhaps try to talk to them now that time has passed since whatever it was that caused the intiial schism18:28
cdentI'm not sure what needs to happen, but I think that's what Sean was trying to get at.18:28
cdentAnd I'm not sure how to cogentlly put that in a review comment, thus the chat here18:29
gordcit's something worth asking in swift i guess... i've pretty much assumed swift is a closed place.18:30
cdentshould we just invite someone to the review?18:31
* cdent doesn't know who swift people are18:31
gordcclayg and notmyname have been the people i've typically chatted with... i'd need to look for what their real names are.18:32
gordcthat said, they've typically just responded in swift chat or launchpad... if it isn't in swift gerrit i'm not sure they'll look at it even if you add tehm18:33
cdentI've just pinged him over in openstack-qa, just to see18:34
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cdentand linked him to the various reviews and bugs18:37
cdenthe seems to be reading now, wanting to help18:37
gordccdent: cool cool.18:37
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openstackgerritAna Malagon proposed stackforge/gnocchi: aggregates: added moving average  https://review.openstack.org/13567819:10
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/14004919:29
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: package swift middlware in ceilometermiddleware  https://review.openstack.org/14212919:38
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openstackgerritAna Malagon proposed stackforge/gnocchi: aggregates: added moving average  https://review.openstack.org/13567820:22
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* cdent will be late tomorrow20:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: implement notification coordination  https://review.openstack.org/13541422:51
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