Thursday, 2015-07-09

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex
jasonamyersgood morning06:18
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/aodh: Imported Translations from Transifex
openstackgerritMiguel Grinberg proposed openstack/ceilometer: Tolerate alarm actions set to None
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cdentmorning all06:41
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jasonamyershey cdent and idegtiarov06:43
cdentyou got the snacks jasonamyers ?06:43
jasonamyersit's 1:45AM so it's coffee and water all around06:44
jasonamyersbut in Dec I will make sure there are enough cookies to cause diabetes06:44
_nadya_hello folks!06:45
jasonamyershey _nadya_06:45
cdenthere's the hangout link:
cdent(one of several different links, google is so bad about cool uris)06:46
openstackgerritSergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/ceilometer: Remove fileutils
cdentetherpad was being a real pain yesterday I hope it is as bad today06:54
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ildikovfor me it's a pain every second day it always disconnects...06:55
* cdent has a sad:06:55
cdentI couldn't find a thermos so I have two cups of coffee cooling besdie me06:56
openstackgerritSergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] Remove fileutils
cdentjasonamyers: if you kill your video you might lower some of _nadya_'s lag, hangouts is weird that way07:01
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cdentmorning jd__ you gonna join the party07:16
jd__cdent: "The video call is full"07:17
jd__how many people are connected?07:18
zqfan_afkjd__: 1007:18
jd__yeah that's the max07:19
jd__cdent: do you know if we can host public BJ?07:19
jd__'cause I know it scales to 10007:19
cdentjd__: we have one ready to go but people preferred hangouts07:19
jd__tough choice :D07:20
cdentdidn't think we were going to cross the ten threshold07:20
jd__yeah I'm surprised too07:20
jasonamyersjd__ if you are interested in this topic I can drop to let you in07:20
jd__what's the topic? I missed the agenda07:20
cdentI've already dropped so I can do some investigating07:20
jd__I'm just back from vacation so I'm lagging on everything07:20
jd__thanks cdent for the agenda07:20
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jd__cdent: which timezone is this ?07:21
cdentsays in lower left: gmt+0 (utc)07:21
jd__cdent: riiiight didn't see that, I've a huuuuge screen :p07:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: ceph: make the driver asynchronous
jd__I left my spot I'm not interested (yet) in rally07:23
jd__I'll join the next one though07:23
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cdentjd__: I kinda think that maybe the 10 people limit might be a good thing, just to keep things focused? Not sure though07:26
jd__cdent: yeah, if we're just 10-12 that should be ok07:26
jd__it's also likely people rushed in for the first spot but are going to be busy later and leave07:26
jd__if we end up having 10 more people waiting to enter we'll reconsider :)07:27
cdentthe bluejeans thing remains an option if it comes up but I bet people don't have the plugin installed07:27
jasonamyersI'm happy to move in and out just ping me on irc07:27
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jasonamyerscdent: can you hop back in?07:32
thervesileht, jd__ : Hey! Is quickly approvable? I broke stuff apparently07:34
jd__therve: got a test?07:34
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thervejd__, I guess. Didn't write the patch though.07:34
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thervejd__, It's unfortunate that wsme allows None in place where you expect a list :/07:39
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cdentjasonamyers: if you're going to be in there and something comes up (in terms of the process is not going as planned) give me a ping07:58
cdentotherwise jd__ I've made room for you on the call for the next topic; at the end of it can you poll the participants to see if they need/want a second session on the same topic tomorrow?07:58
jd__i'll try to remember that :D07:59
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jasonamyersthere is still an open spot cdent08:01
cdentjasonamyers: I'll give it a few and then come back08:01
jd__who is sheng Liu?08:01
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cdentjd__: makes senset that that would be liusheng08:03
jd__ah the other way around :D08:03
jd__liusheng: you're posting weird screenshot on G+08:03
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silehttherve, oh god what is this08:04
liushengjd__: sorry, a mistake by my colleague08:04
jd__liusheng: well you could clean that up :)08:05
* sileht hates the JSONEncodedDict sqlalchemy data type08:05
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liushengjd__: sorry, we tried, but cannot find how to08:05
jd__cdent: there's still a spot I think08:05
jd__liusheng: arf ok08:05
liushengfirst time using this app08:05
openstackgerritSergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] Switch to the oslo_utils.fileutils
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Tolerate alarm actions set to None
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silehttherve, I have added a test and a comment of where we fail in the past ^^08:13
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thervesileht, Awesome, thanks08:14
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openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Transformers for events pipeline
openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Transformers for events pipeline
ildikovgordc: morning :)08:23
ildikovgordc: just a quick check whether you're awake or joined the hangouts while you were still sleeping08:24
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pradcdent, morning08:36
cdentmorning prad08:37
pradall going as planned i hope?08:37
cdentyeah, working out just fine so far prad08:37
pradlooks like the hangout is full08:37
pradnot letting me in08:37
cdentyeah, there's a limit of 10 and we've decided that's basically a good thing: more than that it gets noisy, but if we do need to go over bluejeans can handle it08:38
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jasonamyersprad you can have my spot in the next session08:40
pradcool, so v3 apis going on right now?08:41
pradits 4:40~ AM here, i'll go make some coffee meanwhile08:42
jasonamyersyeah prad08:47
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jd__I'm out for now, let me know if you need me later :)08:54
jasonamyersthat's how is done for python requests08:54
jasonamyersusing github08:54
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jasonamyersthey have someone go in and comment up all the planned work08:57
jasonamyersbut the planned tag is something we use to get resources to help08:57
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* cdent misses github issues (when compared with launchpad)09:01
gordcjasonamyers: cool cool. yeah my concern is writing stuff that is important to one set of cores, but when leadership changes, that goals may change.09:02
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Tolerate alarm actions set to None
gordcjasonamyers: want to avoid listing stuff that aren't guaranteed09:03
cdentgordc that right there, in a nutshell, is one of the major failings of openstack as opensource09:03
cdentfear of being held to a commitment when none was made09:03
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gordccdent: sorry multi-tasking... failings or 'agile'09:08
* cdent dies09:08
gordcyou don't like agile? we do scrum09:08
* cdent sighs and then dies again09:08
cdentif mgt instituted it, then it is not agile09:09
jasonamyersgordc: like so many things something is better than nothing09:09
jasonamyersit's not a commitment it's a list of things the cores would like to accomplish09:10
jasonamyersas cores come and go they can edit and change09:10
r-mibuwhat is current topic?09:10
ildikovgordc: if we have goals like stability and performance improvements and we know what to do for it, it shouldn't be something that's dropped, when we have new cores on board09:10
jasonamyersevent based alarming09:10
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cdentr-mibu: event based alarming09:11
jasonamyersliving document type thing *only posted that so cdent would sigh again*09:11
r-mibuQuestion #1?09:11
cdentr-mibu: I'm not on the call09:11
ildikovr-mibu: the topic seems to be the split09:13
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cdentgordc: if you're on the current call, can you figure out before the end of it if another session is needed tomorrow?09:27
_nadya_sorry, my son is making some fun09:31
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jasonamyershe'll be patching ceilometer in no time09:35
jasonamyershe's already better than me :P09:36
_nadya_folks, are we gonna discuss the roadmap tomorrow or the ways how to manage the roadmap (and the project)?09:36
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Tolerate alarm actions set to None
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Tolerate alarm actions set to None
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cdent_nadya_: I reckon that every session is talking about what the roadmap is or will be, at least in some fasion. The renamed session tomorrow morning is about how to make sure the roadmap is captured09:41
jasonamyers_nadya_: yeah in place of the APIv3 section09:41
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ildikovwould that make sense to move that session later, I mean if we want to summarize what we discussed within these two days?09:44
ildikovor at least leave some room closer to the end of the mid-cycle?09:44
ildikovalthough I don't know how many people we will have on board at that time09:44
_nadya_I think that after todays' sessions the schedule will be fixed a bit. because some of sessions may not be needed09:46
openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Declarative meters support
cdentildikov: I kind of thing the delete or deprecate sessions (which are intentionally vague and long) can capture a lot of the "so where we going" questioning09:47
_nadya_cdent: thanks, Chris. The roadmap is a very painful for me now that's why I'm asking. It's really important question09:48
ildikovyeap, reusing would've been my next question, thanks cdent, I support the idea09:49
cdentyeah, totally agree09:49
gordccdent: sure09:50
ildikovcool, I'm glad I finally brought it up, I've been missing it for a while now09:50
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cdentgordc: also can you remind people to drop if they are not interesting in the forthcoming session09:57
ildikovgordc: I need to grab a coffee, should not take more than 5 mins, brb09:59
gordccdent: done09:59
cdentthanks gordc09:59
gordccdent: also, we can skip tomorrow alarming session. we've decided to move it to review09:59
gordc#action tell Ryota results of whether he should code for ceilometer and/or aodh10:00
gordcre: target goals, i think we do list the big issues (see Gnocchi) but i'm not against having wiki10:02
gordcthat said, are we reviewing these goals as well? because i'd rather not waste time reviewing hypotheticals.10:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: rest: returns 404 when controller does not exists
openstackgerritMannu proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: spec file for ceilometer-measurement-filter
openstackgerritMannu proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: ade changes to incroprate review comments
pradildikov, so thats the current yaml i'm working on for declarative10:57
ildikovprad: ok, so this is what I kind of call internal10:57
ildikovprad: s/call/called/10:57
pradildikov, yea so we can either have two separate files or have multiple sections in the same yaml one for defaults and one for custom10:57
ildikovprad: I think it's better to keep them separate10:58
ildikovprad: but we can consider this as an administartive question10:58
ildikovprad: in my opinion it is better to give the user less chance to ruin something10:59
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gordcildikov: i typed in etherpad what i was hoping10:59
gordcand i think what _nadya_ was expecting10:59
ildikovso if the custom is in a separate file than it is already a win as they will not modify the other one accidentally or smth like10:59
gordci think it's less about users managing it and more about projects managing it11:00
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_nadya_gordc: thank you for being a translator:)11:00
gordc_nadya_: :) i liked your idea. i'm assuming that's what you meant.11:01
gordcif not, it is what you mean now.11:01
cdentstarting on
pradgordc, so these nova,neutron yaml files will be in ceilometer or individual projects?11:01
ildikovgordc: I saw it, thanks!11:01
gordcprad: their projects11:01
_nadya_gordc: yep, exactly11:02
ildikovhmm, ok, then I'm lost :)11:02
pradyea thats interesting, not what i had in mind11:02
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ildikovgordc: the projects managing it partwe agree on, although having these files in the other projects' repo is something I need to understand more to see, why it's beneficial11:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Typo: Show an sample => Show a sample
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openstackgerritMannu proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: spec file for ceilometer-measurement-filter
gordcildikov: i think if it's not in their repo. they won't care. just like i don't care about any files in nova/cinder...11:11
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ildikovgordc: the care part is right, from this PoV, those files will never make it in to those repos :)11:13
gordcildikov: unless we give them an existing base. then maybe... hopefully... probably not...11:14
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ildikovgordc: I guess it could be a next step to what prad is working on, right?11:16
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pradildikov, gordc, note how many projects we have, this might be a multi-person/multi-cycle? effort11:20
pradi dont see us getting all projects migrated to this by liberty11:21
ildikovwithout proper testing we will not have benefit from having files in other repos either although if this could be a tempest test suite with jobs for each relevant project the files can live anywhere11:22
ildikovif they are in our repo, then users can see why they have the data they get, if this is something we would want to provide11:23
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jasonamyersout until the delete topic11:28
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_nadya_cdent: Chris, just a clarification. this code will go to a separate polling agent ? I'm asking because it is kind of message processing11:33
cdentThat's a subclass of Pollster so will be a part of the polling agent's code11:34
cdentis that what you're asking _nadya_ ?11:34
cdentthe stuff that needs to be in the the notification agent is this stuff:11:35
cdent(and it is already in there, but it is also in the polling agent currently, and doesn't need to be if we are sending notifications)11:35
_nadya_cdent: yep, thanks. I was thinking that maybe it's possible to make services send notifications 'on demand', so pollster agent's mission was just ping some service. just thoughts11:39
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gordcildikov: yeah next step. not something for liberty. but i think we should promote it (declarative stuff)11:45
gordci was thinking of doing a session on that.11:45
gordcprad: yeah, i was thinking of doing just the projects we have currently.11:46
gordcprad: and maybe as new projects get added, we can help them build their own meter.yaml file11:46
_nadya_gordc: Gordon, you are doing a lot of experiments with HA mode, right?11:46
ildikovgordc: I agree that we should focus on the declarative aspect first and even promote it11:46
ildikovgordc: it also sounds like a nice session topic, IMHO11:46
gordcildikov: i think i added it in etherpad. in case anyone wants to co-present11:47
cdentcan somone remind me of that etherpad?11:47
gordc_nadya_: err... i do some testing.lol11:47
ildikovgordc: cool, checking :)11:47
gordc_nadya_: not production level testing though.11:48
cdentthanks gordc11:48
cdentgordc: i could probably get down on some a la carte if hat's what you're thinking of presenting?11:49
_nadya_gordc: aha, ok. I have a goal to prove my management that Ceilo is great tool, so it looks like I need to do some HA tests :) And will talk about your new spec...11:50
gordccdent: yeah. that's the one i had to promote declarative stuff.11:51
cdentas long as we can have some killing kittens imagery11:51
gordccdent: i didn't write anymore then that but i think we can quickly write something for 15th11:51
ildikovand the etherpad now died... :S11:51
cdentcool gordc, let's plan to make it so?11:52
gordccdent: sounds good. how to kill kittens.11:52
gordci did the other two below too... i don't know if i'll submit as it's a lot of work benchmarking.lol11:52
gordcildikov: works for me.11:53
cdentwe should be doing benchmarking in any case, and prior to summit11:53
cdentrally supposed to help us with that11:53
_nadya_cdent: I'll try to find resources for that11:54
gordccdent: yeah... i figured i'd propose topic and it'd force me to benchmark11:55
ildikovanyone to join for Gnocchi maybe with some roadmap highlights?11:55
gordci know someone is going to say: "you're benchmarking wrong"11:55
gordcildikov: i don't know enough about highlights... but i'll benchmark gnocchi11:55
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gordc_nadya_: are you doing that for this cycle? i was going to propose for tokyo summit.11:56
ildikovgordc: and do you want to talk about it? :)11:56
gordcildikov: i can be a puppet and read from a script.11:57
ildikovgordc: I meant roadmap for Telemetry, I hope Gnocchi still belongs to it11:57
_nadya_gordc: not sure. Will be clear during the next two weeks11:57
gordcildikov: i believe it is. we don't really have another alternative.11:57
gordcunless someone is working on a secret db project.11:57
ildikovgordc: :), no one I would know about11:58
gordc_nadya_: sounds good. maybe i'll submit a talk on benchmarking ceilometer...and back out if i don't have time.11:58
gordcildikov: true true.11:58
ildikovgordc: should we go for one on Gnocchi too or let's leave it out from this for Tokyo?11:59
ildikovgordc: did you get any answer from jd__, when you asked last time?11:59
gordcildikov: i don't think so. maybe i missed it.11:59
jd__asked what?11:59
gordcor he missed it.11:59
gordcjd__:  you have a speaker session about gnocchi for tokyo?12:00
jd__gordc: I proposed a talk, now I'm waiting12:00
gordcjd__: cool cool12:00
gordcildikov: are you going to mention it in your 'componentisation' talk12:00
jd__who's up for alarm split?12:01
jd__cdent: joining?12:02
ildikovgordc: yeap, sure12:05
gordccool cool12:07
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pradgordc, talk on declarative meters? i would be up for that hopefully i can get it all into liberty12:08
gordcprad: you better!12:09
gordcprad: you can add your name to etherpad.12:09
pradgordc, which one?12:09
gordcwe'll look like fools if it doesn't get in.12:09
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: stop storing full res timeserie in archives
cdentgordc, jd__ ping me if you want me on this call, I needed a voice break but can come back if required12:19
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jasonamyersI've been away from this code for too long12:27
silehtcdent, I have take a look to and I guess you should modify this too to not break the heat gating:
cdentsileht: there's still a bunch of pending questions with the devstack and grenade people if what I'm doing there is right at all as well as how to deal with the dependency structures that exist between things12:30
cdentso I'm sort of waiting...12:30
silehtcdent, do you I track that on the review, or this was a known issue ?12:31
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cdentprobably wortwhile writing it down in as many places as possible as there's not been a lot of forward motion from the people who know what's up...12:32
cdentjd__, gordc: I assume no alarm split session tomorrow then?12:32
gordccdent: we all good12:32
gordcyou have a lot of work assigned to you (half joke)12:32
cdent_all_ good? that's pretty amazing12:32
gordc'all' is dependent on your work12:33
cdentif it ain't on the etherpad then it ain't happening12:33
silehtcdent, seems congress, tripleo and rally jobs needs to be updated too12:33
cdentfrom the look of that etherpad nothing is going to happen12:33
cdentsileht: yeah, it's because of that cascade that I suspect that just going around updating all the jobs is not the right thing12:33
cdentas that's a horrible way to manage plugins12:33
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silehtcdent, and here I have just grep 'ceilometer' in yaml files, but project have part of the gate script in its own code tree12:34
silehtperhaps we can miss some of them ...12:35
gordcjd__: tell cdent what he needs to do. :)12:35
* cdent nods at sileht 12:35
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cdentsileht: i've asked again over in #openstack-qa12:38
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gordccdent: how does 9 and 11 UTC sound? what time is that for russia based ppl... i think that's 5 and 7 for china12:42
cdentgordc: sound for what?12:43
gordccdent: as the session times for tomorrow.12:44
cdentyou mean in stead of 8 and 10?12:44
* gordc is trying to avoid waking up at 5am12:44
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gordcyeah. i'm wondering if we can push them both an hour12:44
cdentit all depends on _nadya_12:44
* cdent looks at _nadya_ 12:44
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_nadya_what should I decide? aha... I'm ok with 9-1112:45
cdentbased on the doodle poll, it ough to work to push to 11 and 1212:45
cdentI can make that adjustment if people are okay with that?12:46
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gordccdent: just asking. i assume you had a 2hr space as buffer12:46
cdentthe schedule was just an exact replica for the prior day12:47
cdentbut now that we've cancelled some sessions12:47
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cdentwe can move as we want12:47
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cdentthe gap between morning and afternoon is because of holes in people's availability12:47
cdenthave a look at this updated:
_nadya_cdent: let's ask ityaptin too :)12:48
* cdent looks at ityaptin 12:48
gordccdent: ah i see. i thought you shuffled after cancelling. if ppl can make it i prefer to do 9 and 11. if we're worried people might be expecting original times. i'll live.12:48
cdentityaptin: didn't vote on the doodle poll!12:49
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gordci'll just be a slightly more groggy person at current proposed times.12:49
ityaptin_nadya_, cdent: I'm good with new schedule12:49
cdentgordc I'd prefer to bump (as shown on the new schedule) if that works for you12:49
cdentgordc: I'm going to send an email announcing updated schedule unless you say no soon12:51
gordccdent: yay!12:51
_nadya_cdent: maybe two last session for today will be delayed tomorrow?12:51
_nadya_cdent: not too early to announce?12:52
cdentWe can announce again if that happens. The idea is to remind people to look at the calendar, often.12:52
jasonamyerscatch you all in a few gonna grab a nap during break12:53
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ildikov_nadya_: I can't attend the last two today, so I'm with you on moving :)12:56
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gordcildikov: when do you plan on moving it to?13:02
gordcildikov: i think cdent is not reading this and is typing email13:02
cdentIt's too late to change a session today13:03
cdentThe only reason that changing sessions tomorrow is okay is because we cancelled some sessions13:03
ildikovcdent: fair enough13:03
cdentand we are moving things where the related participant are keen enough with the move13:04
cdentif in today's later sessions we decide that tomorrow's version can or should move or not even happen then fine13:04
cdentbut we need to stick today's schedule as published13:04
gordccdent: very elegant arguments. i would just say 'no'.lol13:04
cdentje suis elgegant13:05
gordccanadian french, close enough13:06
gordc'je suis' is good enough for canada.13:07
cdentje parles franglais13:07
gordcwith a lisp?13:07
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cdentI'm a pretty bad typer though13:13
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] The start of a grenade plugin for ceilometer
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cdentgordc: do you recall when you did this: was there any way to test that it worked before it merged, or did you have to merge it first?13:57
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gordccdent: looking14:00
gordccdent: no way to test14:01
gordcjust set it experimental and fixed it after it merged14:01
gordccdent: i rotated it:
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gordcllu: llu-laptop: ^ i don't know if that helps explains my coordination spec14:05
cdentthanks gordc that is what I feared/expected14:06
gordccdent: i feel like that's common practice (or maybe just whenever i pay attention), merge as experimental/non-voting, fix, and then enable14:08
cdentyeah, I'm just impatient14:08
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gordccdent: i think the argument was they want you to prove it's stability before gating.14:17
cdentOh I don't have a problem with the job being experimental14:18
cdentI have a problem with waiting for the job to exist before I can use it14:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Tolerate alarm actions set to None
gordcah yeah, you're best buds with infra aren't you. should be no problem14:19
gordccdent: me, not so much.14:19
ildikovI need to drop off, I hope you will take notes on the etherpads :)14:19
gordcyou hope wrong14:19
cdentgordc: naw man, I've been spending too much time on ceilometer instead of devstack lately, the shine has gone off me14:20
cdentildikov: we'll try14:20
cdentor at least I will14:20
gordccdent: get outta here! you were our trojan horse14:20
cdentI know, right. But you guys made me do this other stuff and now *shrug*14:21
* cdent feels shame14:21
gordcdamn. back to the bubble14:21
ildikovcdent: thanks :)14:21
ildikovlaters :)14:22
cdentI fear I have too many coffee14:23
jasonamyersWAT no such thing14:24
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] The start of a grenade plugin for ceilometer
cdentmy eyeballs are starting to shake around14:24
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* cdent wonders if we should make the polling agents erlang14:27
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cdentI was mostly joking14:28
jasonamyersthat be fun14:28
jasonamyersdon't joke about the erlang14:28
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cdentbut it makes sense. Ideally there would be not just hundreds but thousands of polling agents14:29
cdentjust strewn about all over the place14:29
cdentdoing their own little happy little coordination dance14:29
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* cdent is thinking cern sized installations14:29
jasonamyersstill a big thought14:30
cdentand the only way to achieve that level of spread is to have tiny messing oriented processes14:30
cdentnot messing14:30
cdentbut probably that too14:30
* cdent feels like there is not enough on the d-or-d etherpad to make for a proper meeting14:31
jasonamyersmaybe it'll be quick14:31
jasonamyersdeprecate all the things14:31
gordccdent: use rust14:31
jasonamyersrust is also cool14:31
cdentrust is also cool, but I was thinking leveraging the erlang's process management whoo ha14:32
cdentaw crap14:32
gordcjasonamyers: rewrite openstack in rust... 7 years later rewrite openstack in xyz14:32
* cdent shoots self14:32
cdentI used the word leveraging14:32
jasonamyersgordc: 7 years... more like 2 cycles14:32
jasonamyersrust -> go 014:32
jasonamyers-> erlang14:33
gordcjasonamyers: that will worry people 7 years let's people realise the mistake.14:33
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gordccdent: did we ever get numbers from tim bell?14:33
gordcre: cern sized installations14:34
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cdentactually, what I really think is that we should switch to zmq style brokerless messaging and go fully p2p event driven with roaming agents that do one thing only singleton's that can only do two things: respond to an event with a specific behavior or another event (or both)14:35
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cdentgordc: I have had no communication with tim bell14:35
* cdent was too busy horsing with qa14:36
cdentnow you want me to horse cern as well14:36
* cdent sighs14:36
gordccdent: check it:
cdentnot quite the same14:38
cdenthell there's "rpc" right there in the title.14:38
cdentno sir14:38
gordci just read zeromq14:38
gordci don't care much for messages that wrap14:39
gordcyou can put your event stuff in roadmap14:40
cdentIt's not a ceilometer thing, it's an openstack thing14:40
cdentwhich essentially means: it's not a thing14:40
cdentunless I start up my own thing, which earlier jasonamyers promised he was going to get me funding for14:40
gordcyou can put next to schematisation task14:41
gordcjasonamyers: has cisco money... which based on rate they're buying up cloud companies... it's a lot of monies.14:42
cdentgordc: put something on here about what you need to have as outcome from that:
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gordcjasonamyers: good lord...14:45
gordci'm going to be busy all day looking at that site.14:46
gordcjasonamyers: i'm surprised hp is still rising tbh.14:52
jasonamyersthey do well on services14:52
gordcwho knew printers would continue to remain in demand14:52
gordcif i recall, after their split, the hardware/printer stuff was profitable part.14:53
gordcor maybe it was printer was only part of hardware that was profitable14:53
jd__gordc: hint on
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cdentit's getting on to be about time:
gordcjd__: i was thinking maybe using a different option instead of reusing the option (conf.database.connection) that oslo.db defines.14:57
gordcjd__: this doesn't happen a lot but once or twice someone asked why the help message says sql if they're using mongo/hbase?14:57
gordcnot a huge blocker. i don't know who's using mongo/hbase for just alarms.14:58
gordcbut something to consider.14:58
jd__gordc: can we merge this one and "fix" oslo.db?14:58
cdent_nadya_, jd__, sileht: you going to be able to make this next session?15:01
gordcjd__: done15:01
jd__cdent: yep15:01
cdentwe're waiting on you jd__15:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: Move 'alarm_connection' to 'connection'
openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: api: remove unused extra_hooks
openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: api: remove v1 handling
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: notifier: tests stop method
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edmondswgordc, is there a field that all CADF events will have, which could be used in a filter on GET /v2/events to get all CADF events but only CADF events?15:40
edmondswI'm thinking all CADF events, not just those from keystonemiddleware.audit15:41
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: doc: use pbr autodoc feature to build api doc
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Remove useless migration module
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: impl_log: make methods static
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Remove code related to metadata/metaquery
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: messaging: remove unused cleanup function
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gordcedmondsw: sorry for delay, we're doing our virtual midcycle meetup today/tomorrow.15:58
cdentgordc: I forgot to ask, I assume tomorrow d or d can be deleted?15:58
gordclet me do a quick check15:58
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: doc: use pbr autodoc feature to build api doc
gordccdent: probably. i don't have any follows up but maybe ildikov_afk will read something and rage15:59
cdenti'll let it ride for now15:59
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gordcedmondsw: typeURI might be a plausible option that is just CADF16:01
edmondswgordc, I'll take a look... tx16:02
gordcedmondsw: there are a few others that are required by cadf and arguably unique... but their values tend to be variable16:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: Remove useless migration module
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: impl_log: make methods static
openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: messaging: remove unused cleanup function
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* cdent suits up16:25
cdentonce more into the breach:
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cdentprad, jd__ anyone else?16:31
cdentityaptin or ildikov_afk or idegtiarov wanna get in on the gnocchi chat?16:32
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BeetnikAnyone know how I query heat stuffs with ceilometer CLI?17:36
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Beetnikanything created by heat seems to have an id looking something like arn::openstack::heat::longidofsomdescription::stacks/something and if I use that as ID, ceilometer complains that it doesn't exist17:37
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gordcBeetnik: what would 'heat stuffs' be?17:51
gordcalarms or heat related meter/events?17:52
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Beetnikso, really, the question came up in a discussion about using ceilometer to monitor how many members there were of an autoscalinggroup. Then I had a quick look just doing a ceilometer meter-list and resource-list and see loads of arn::openstack::..... stuffs there, but I can't seem to "do anything with it"17:55
* Beetnik is away: Not around17:57
gordcBeetnik: hmm.. so ceilometer doesn't poll any data from Heat, it just builds meters and events from the notifications Heat emits17:58
gordcBeetnik: you can do event-list (if you have events enabled) to get more verbose data that Heat emits but not sure what exactly can be used from Heat events. it all really depends on what Heat emits and then we can build data from it.17:59
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openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Fixes querying alarm history with severity field
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openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/aodh: Fixes querying alarm history with severity field
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