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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Remove ceilometer dispatcher https://review.openstack.org/200408 | 07:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Remove ceilometer dispatcher https://review.openstack.org/200408 | 08:17 |
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| kelfen | Hi Guys!! | 08:56 |
| kelfen | Somebody know how to remove Swift metering from ceilometer? | 08:57 |
| kelfen | I didn't found nothing into the official docs | 08:57 |
| cdent | kelfen: which meters in particular? There are two different ways that info is acquired from swift. | 08:58 |
| cdent | one way is that ceilometer asks the swift servers for info | 08:58 |
| cdent | the other is that swift sends out notifications that ceiometer picks up | 08:58 |
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| kelfen | cdent: I'm sorry, in my case ceilometer asks the swift server | 09:02 |
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| cdent | kelfen: you can turn off polling meters (like that) in pipeline.yaml | 09:07 |
| cdent | you'd need to make an entry that said something like "!storage.*" in the meters sections | 09:08 |
| cdent | see: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_telemetry-object-storage-meters.html | 09:08 |
| cdent | and: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_telemetry-pipeline-configuration.html | 09:08 |
| cdent | another way to do it would be to edit the entry_points for the ceilometer package | 09:09 |
| cdent | and get rid of the storage.* Pollsters | 09:09 |
| kelfen | wow great! Thanks a lot cdent | 09:12 |
| cdent | you're welcome | 09:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi dispatcher: fix typo in stevedore endpoint https://review.openstack.org/200431 | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi: fixes the instance flavor type https://review.openstack.org/200436 | 09:30 |
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| bdossant | Hi guys! Is there a meter type for getting the date an instance was created? | 09:38 |
| bdossant | this should come from compute.instance.create.start right? | 09:38 |
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| sileht | cdent, fyi, I have started to write the devstack stuff for aodh | 10:02 |
| cdent | cool, if you look at the pending devstack plugin for ceilometer (which has merged but isn't really being used for anything yet) that one sort of follows the instructions (and is slightly different from what gnocchi does) | 10:04 |
| cdent | the main difference is the use of a settings file | 10:04 |
| sileht | cdent, I have seen that, and take the ceilometer one as base instead of gnocchi | 10:05 |
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| jasonamyers | good morning | 10:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Add devstack support https://review.openstack.org/200467 | 10:43 |
| cdent | morning jasonamyers | 10:43 |
| jasonamyers | brb | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Optionally create trust for alarm actions https://review.openstack.org/199589 | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Tolerate alarm actions set to None https://review.openstack.org/199974 | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Add devstack support https://review.openstack.org/200467 | 10:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | shubham chitranshi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Added valid values of operator to response body https://review.openstack.org/196535 | 10:51 |
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| cdent | I guess it is time to dive back in: https://plus.google.com/events/ctemrfbaldn2hfi2iam4v16cqfc | 10:56 |
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| cdent | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-apiv3 | 10:57 |
| cdent | topic is how to make and manage a roadmap | 10:57 |
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| cdent | jasonamyers, jd__: you gonna join this one or shall we carry on | 11:00 |
| jasonamyers | sorry I'm here | 11:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Use the right sqla type for JSONEncodedDict https://review.openstack.org/200476 | 11:10 |
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| jd__ | cdent: can't join sorry | 11:22 |
| cdent | no problem | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi dispatcher: fix typo in stevedore endpoint https://review.openstack.org/200431 | 11:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Use the right sqla type for JSONEncodedDict https://review.openstack.org/200476 | 11:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Add devstack support https://review.openstack.org/200467 | 11:46 |
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| cdent | mediawiki is junk | 11:50 |
| _nadya__ | cdent: Chris, I have one question to you and about you :) | 11:51 |
| cdent | hello | 11:51 |
| _nadya__ | cdent: there are several specs which you have suggested. If someone wants to help you how it should be done? Or you prefer to be alone with your tasks? | 11:52 |
| cdent | a) which specs do you mean? b) if somebody wants to help that's awesome just say so c) does anyone ever want to be alone, really? | 11:52 |
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| cdent | everyone: I've stared a summaries of the session bit on the wiki page, there are parts I can't fill in so other people will need to do that: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ceilometer/Liberty_Virtual_Mid-Cycle#Summaries | 11:56 |
| _nadya__ | cdent:c) yes :) b) that's great, I'm asking because still think about usage of some board where we can put tasks which is going to be done soon | 11:57 |
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| * sileht for some tasks | 11:57 | |
| _nadya__ | cdent: a) is not really meter but foe example extraction polling agent and delete transformer code from it | 11:58 |
| _nadya__ | *matter | 11:58 |
| cdent | _nadya__: that one is already under review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198865/ | 12:02 |
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| cdent | current session etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-schematization | 12:03 |
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| _nadya__ | cdent: yep, it's just an example. But if we consider the task 'create performance tests' it may require several team members and a board may be useful | 12:04 |
| ildikov | _nadya__: cdent: can't the approved blueprint list be used as a task list? | 12:04 |
| sileht | prad, I have a question about the declarative, do you think that have sense to declare into the meters.yaml, the resource attributes needed by gnochi instead of this kind of stuffs: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ceilometer/tree/ceilometer/dispatcher/resources/volume.py#n24 | 12:04 |
| sileht | or this is preferable into a separate file if we want the gnocchi stuffs to be declarative too | 12:05 |
| prad | sileht, is that just a resource id or has some metadata as well? | 12:06 |
| cdent | _nadya__: oh yeah, definitely more than one person on some things would be great | 12:06 |
| sileht | prad, they are some metadata | 12:06 |
| sileht | prad, example for volume meter we store the 'display_name' in gnocchi | 12:06 |
| cdent | I just put any person who had already stated they might | 12:06 |
| prad | sileht, we had some discussion yesterday on choosing what payload to include(perhaps a recommended predefined), we could have the above as part of that | 12:08 |
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| prad | i'm not sure if we came to a decision on that yet | 12:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Add devstack support https://review.openstack.org/200467 | 12:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: WIP: Add devstack support https://review.openstack.org/200467 | 12:12 |
| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Introduce Guru Meditation Reports into Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/196369 | 12:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nadya Shakhat proposed openstack/aodh: Make GnocchiThreshold evaluator derived from ThresholdEvaluator https://review.openstack.org/199504 | 12:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nadya Shakhat proposed openstack/aodh: Make GnocchiThreshold evaluator derived from ThresholdEvaluator https://review.openstack.org/199504 | 12:34 |
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| jasonamyers | okay off to vacation, thank you all! | 12:44 |
| prad | jasonamyers, have fun! | 12:45 |
| ildikov | jasonamyers: thanks for being on board! happy vacations! :) | 12:46 |
| gordc | jasonamyers: later dude. thanks for input | 12:46 |
| _nadya__ | jasonamyers: see you back, will gather more information about app layer :) | 12:47 |
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| ildikov | cdent: is my understanding correct that we will reach out to ops on the list to inform them about the changes and also to the devv list to finally decide when to delete the code (I mean the alarm code) | 12:51 |
| ildikov | cdent: the declarative meters' impact part is clear to me, I believe :) | 12:51 |
| cdent | yes, gordc is going to speak to the list to say we're planning to make the following change, and see if anyone panics :) | 12:52 |
| ildikov | ok, so basically the aim is still to delete that in Liberty if no one panics, right? | 12:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Remove ceilometer dispatcher https://review.openstack.org/200408 | 12:53 |
| cdent | ildikov: I'm not sure there was a clean and clear decision on that, most people seemed to say: let's delete right after liberty freezes (so that it is present in liberty-based distributions if people want it) | 12:53 |
| ildikov | cdent: ok, cool, that sounds even better | 12:54 |
| cdent | sileht: I'm having some issues with the aodh devstack plugin and I think it comes down to the fact that functions are never actually private so there is some clobbering going on if you use the same function names from the ceilometer plugin | 12:54 |
| ildikov | it gives some time to people to get used to this change, especially if we announce it as soon as possible | 12:54 |
| ildikov | cdent: cool, thanks, I'm fine with this outcome, so I don't think we need a follow up for this session, if there's nothing else to discuss | 12:55 |
| sileht | cdent, I guess all stuffs I dropped for elastic search break es on ceilometer side ? | 12:55 |
| ildikov | cdent: thanks! | 12:55 |
| sileht | cdent, I have found worse the database connection: _configure_storage_backend | 12:56 |
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| cdent | yeah that's the one I'm currenty hitting | 12:56 |
| sileht | cdent, I will prefix all methos | 12:56 |
| cdent | I've just renamed it to make sure | 12:57 |
| cdent | yeah, I think that's probably the way to go :( | 12:57 |
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| cdent | and then we can see what else blows up | 12:57 |
| cdent | and the maybe do the same in the ceilometer plugin too | 12:57 |
| cdent | in fact I'll go ahead and do that anyway | 12:57 |
| sileht | cdent, I will in both | 12:59 |
| cdent | sileht: I've already started on the ceilometer one | 13:00 |
| cdent | so you do one, i'll do the other? | 13:00 |
| sileht | cdent, ok go ahead, | 13:00 |
| sileht | I just finish the aodh one | 13:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: WIP: Add devstack support https://review.openstack.org/200467 | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nadya Shakhat proposed openstack/aodh: Make GnocchiThreshold evaluator derived from ThresholdEvaluator https://review.openstack.org/199504 | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Namespace functions in devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/200535 | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi: fixes the instance flavor type https://review.openstack.org/200436 | 13:38 |
| bdossant | Hi! does anyone know why the instance meter doenst have the created value in the metadata? | 13:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Namespace functions in devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/200535 | 13:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: WIP: Add devstack support https://review.openstack.org/200467 | 13:55 |
| rjaiswal | review/approval needed for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190842/ | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: WIP: Add devstack support https://review.openstack.org/200467 | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/aodh: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/199409 | 14:47 |
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| cdent | last session coming up in ten minutes. It's sort of "did we do what we need to do, we cool?" session. | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Fixes querying alarm history with severity field https://review.openstack.org/200238 | 14:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/ceilometer: [ES] Implement event time to live https://review.openstack.org/200573 | 14:55 |
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| cdent | jd__, sileht, jasonamyers you wanna get on this thing or you tapped out? | 15:03 |
| sileht | I arrived | 15:04 |
| cdent | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ceilometer/Liberty_Virtual_Mid-Cycle#Summaries | 15:06 |
| jasonamyers | cdent: I'm on another call, sorry :( | 15:06 |
| cdent | no worries jasonamyers, we enjoyed having you | 15:06 |
| jasonamyers | thanks for putting it together and It was useful | 15:07 |
| jasonamyers | I'll get ya patches for my change-since work very soon | 15:07 |
| gordc | jasonamyers: you lied. you said you were on vacation | 15:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Fixes querying alarm history with severity field https://review.openstack.org/200238 | 15:09 |
| jasonamyers | I am | 15:10 |
| jasonamyers | I had one last meeting | 15:10 |
| jd__ | cdent: coming | 15:10 |
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| cdent | thorst: hey I just wanted to say that I have been tracking the code in powervm but not been leaving comments unless I see something that stands out as wrong | 15:17 |
| thorst | cdent: that's actually awesome. I really appreciate that. Always like additional eyes on the code | 15:17 |
| thorst | thx much | 15:18 |
| jd__ | did I miss anything exciting in this afternoon cdent? | 15:18 |
| cdent | jd__: no sir. there's a bit more on the midcycle wiki page | 15:18 |
| jd__ | okay | 15:19 |
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| * cdent zzzzzz | 15:25 | |
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| * cdent badly needs to write some code or otherwise not talk | 15:31 | |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Move alarm.service to service https://review.openstack.org/200593 | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/aodh: Move aodh.alarm.rpc to aodh.rpc https://review.openstack.org/200598 | 15:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Fix unit tests failing caused by new Mock release https://review.openstack.org/200613 | 16:22 |
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| ityaptin | gordc: ^^^ | 16:29 |
| ityaptin | sileht: ^^^ | 16:30 |
| ityaptin | sileht, gordc: New release of mock also affects python-ceilometerclient. Unit tests failed with AttributeError caused by assert_called() and assert_called_once() functions | 16:30 |
| sileht | ityaptin, this looks like a public API breakage | 16:31 |
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| ityaptin | sileht: while i'm trying to find this mail thread in the Internet, please, the look onto `[openstack-dev] [all][tests] Fix it friday! [mock failure in CI]` thread in your mail | 16:35 |
| ityaptin | sileht: how i understood it's better to fix invalid calls in the project. | 16:35 |
| sileht | ityaptin, yep, I'm reading the threads | 16:36 |
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| ityaptin | for anybody who interesting it and don't want to go into the mail agent, I add link to the mailthread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/069156.html | 16:39 |
| ityaptin | sileht: And it doesn't affect our stable branches | 16:46 |
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| gordc | ityaptin: approved. | 16:48 |
| ityaptin | gordc: Good) | 16:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/199896 | 16:59 |
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| ankita_wagh | gordc: Hi, What kind of errors go to notifications.error ? | 17:30 |
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| gordc | ankita_wagh: to my knowledge only nova emits error messages. | 17:54 |
| gordc | ankita_wagh: one case i know is when you try to launch with corrupt image | 17:55 |
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| ankita_wagh | gordc: What abt other services? Do they publish their errors to notifications.info ? | 17:56 |
| gordc | ankita_wagh: they probably don't publish at all. not that we could find | 17:56 |
| gordc | ankita_wagh: this was the talk from last summit: | 17:56 |
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| gordc | https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/the-anatomy-of-an-action-mining-the-event-storm | 17:56 |
| gordc | slides: http://www.slideshare.net/GordonChung/anatomy-of-an-action | 17:56 |
| ankita_wagh | gordc: thanku | 17:57 |
| gordc | ankita_wagh: i think the goal is having all projects emit errors but i don`t have that much sway beyond ceilometer :) | 17:57 |
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| slogan621 | Could someone illuminate the status of the MONaaS effort - I see there is an approved blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/monitoring-as-a-service yet the latest comment on that is inactive and scope of blueprint is too large. -- gordc (10.7.15) - is this basically an abandoned effort at this point? | 18:26 |
| slogan621 | s/approved/yet-to-be approved/ | 18:26 |
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| gordc | slogan621: it was an idea proposed a while ago. but no effort made after presenting idea | 18:31 |
| gordc | slogan621: to be honest, the idea is large in scope. it's merging sensu and ceilometer and nagios.. and everything... it needs to be broken into discrete features if someone wants to continue it. | 18:32 |
| slogan621 | My cheap-seats read is that ceilometer already provides a good solution as a sink for whatever data agents in a cluster (that are being polled or are writing to the OSLO bus) might be collecting - it's up to the agents themselves to be concerned with defining if that data is threshold based, how granular it is. | 18:33 |
| slogan621 | Trying to pack all of these requirements into a single box is not a great approach, rather see something like ceilometer be the way the data is collected and aggregated in a DB behind a restful API, and separate efforts independently concern themselves with the configuration of the collection, the agents themselves, and issues of what is collected. | 18:34 |
| slogan621 | apps on top of ceilometer could consume and add further semantics/heuristics | 18:34 |
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| slogan621 | gordc: thanks - I'm working from the bottom up - I have an agent that is producing data and writing to ceilometer but trying to figure out what is the best place to tie ceilometer into - ganglia, jahmon, etc. I haven't looked deeply at any of these for evidence that they are trying to play with OpenStack ceilometer, that's my next step. | 18:40 |
| slogan621 | horizon too - but that even seems like it might be a ball of mud, would I really want ceilometer to be doing the job that these tools are doing (other than maybe monitoring ceilometer at the high level to see how it's database and resources are functioning) | 18:41 |
| slogan621 | ? | 18:41 |
| slogan621 | I don't think we want horizon to become something like emacs, if you get my drift | 18:42 |
| gordc | :) yeah. i think it's the only ui project out there right now so nothing really stopping that scope from growing. | 18:43 |
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| gordc | slogan621: from ceilometer pov, we offer several discrete services, you can poll, grab stuff off message queue, store data, and alarm... if people want to expand on that they can but we're not planning to increase scope anytime soon. | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Added valid values of operator to response body https://review.openstack.org/196535 | 18:45 |
| gordc | how are you writing to ceilometer? using POST functionality in API? | 18:45 |
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| slogan621 | gordc: just following what appear to be recommended steps of publishing data to the OSLO bus and having an agent republish for consumption by ceilometer collector. Configuration of the entity that is producing the OSLO data is completely out of band. | 18:47 |
| gordc | slogan621: i see. cool cool. | 18:49 |
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| slogan621 | gordc: so what would you suggest I look at for a consumer of the ceilometer data. Ideally, something that is commonly used, allows for me to develop a plugin that can configure the agent I am writing, is ceilometer aware or at least allows me to write some code that talks to the ceilometer API. | 18:54 |
| slogan621 | maybe there are multiple best choices here | 18:54 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/200659 | 18:55 |
| * slogan621 is going to look at a video on nagios and ceilometer just found on youtube. | 18:56 | |
| gordc | slogan621: not sure what you mean by talk to api?... you mean a client? | 18:59 |
| slogan621 | yes | 19:01 |
| slogan621 | something that reports the data - or something that does analytics and then communicates with OpenStack to configure things - for example, if networking got bad, it might communicate with neutron to modify aspects of the network to adjust | 19:02 |
| gordc | slogan621: there is the python-ceilometerclient but that is just a cli/client extension of the api | 19:04 |
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| gordc | slogan621: i don't know of any projects leveraging ceilometer data specifically to do analytics. | 19:05 |
| gordc | that tends to be something companies keep private as there differentiating service. | 19:06 |
| gordc | slogan621: that doesn't mean you couldn't propose a new analytics project based on ceilometer data. | 19:06 |
| gordc | our new backend driver: Gnocchi has graphical elements to it but it's not on the same level as kibana or a similar tool | 19:07 |
| gordc | that said, you could just use kibana since elasticsearch is a supported driver. | 19:08 |
| slogan621 | what is elasticsearch? | 19:08 |
| gordc | it's a database. https://www.elastic.co/ | 19:09 |
| slogan621 | gordc: yeah, analytics seems to me to be out of the scope of OpenStack, | 19:09 |
| gordc | https://www.elastic.co/webinars/introduction-elk-stack | 19:10 |
| slogan621 | oh that's cool | 19:10 |
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| slogan621 | I see in github that there are some simple notification agent plugins (for example, ceilometer/network/notifications.py for network, there is one for compute...) - I'm guessing there are others besides these in existence. For example, maybe a vendor has software or a service that it wants to integrate with ceilometer by providing a plugin, what are the options typically used (github account maintained by the vendor, o | 23:32 |
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| slogan621 | If contrail is any example of what is typical, looks like they distribute the agent outside of openstack | 23:43 |
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