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| jgriffith | thingee: avishay__ can eithe ro fyou explain to me what this actually "means"? | 03:54 |
| jgriffith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144409/10/cinder/tests/test_volume.py | 03:54 |
| jgriffith | thingee: avishay__ there's no multi-attach, thus the described sequence isn't even valid | 03:54 |
| jgriffith | thingee: avishay__ and the bug should be that we don't allow volume->image for attached volumes period | 03:55 |
| jgriffith | thingee: avishay__ but wondering if I'm misreading something? | 03:55 |
| avishay__ | jgriffith: checking | 03:55 |
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| avishay | jgriffith: volume->image using the dd method makes no sense at all, but with a clone it does. not easy to differentiate. | 03:56 |
| jgriffith | avishay: hmm... so it's valid for one driver, but not another? I thought we weren't going to do that sort of thing? | 03:56 |
| jgriffith | avishay: or am I still confused maybe? | 03:56 |
| avishay | jgriffith: i didn't say anything about we should do (yes we should have a common API that is not broken for most drivers), i said what makes sense in terms of not being broken :) | 03:58 |
| jgriffith | avishay: LOL | 03:58 |
| avishay | jgriffith: if all you're doing is taking a snapshot, that's fine. if you're dd'ing while writes are coming in, that's not going to work | 03:58 |
| avishay | jgriffith: how to handle that is another issue | 03:58 |
| jgriffith | avishay: hmm... I don't think that change should have ever landed | 03:58 |
| jgriffith | avishay: and I surely don't think it should be backported to Kilo, Juno and Icehouse :( | 03:59 |
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| avishay | jgriffith: this does fix a bug. cinder currently allows you to do something questionable, i agree. however that behavior had a bug. | 04:01 |
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| avishay | jgriffith: changing the API behavior is a bigger change to solve a different issue | 04:01 |
| jgriffith | avishay: hmm... I guess I"m still confused | 04:02 |
| jgriffith | avishay: so first, there's no way for this to work in most cases that I am aware of | 04:02 |
| jgriffith | avishay: but more importantly it seems you disagree with me, which means I need to rethink | 04:03 |
| avishay | jgriffith: it's a behavior that is questionable, i agree. for it to work with dd, data would need to be flushed and no writes happening until the upload finishes. that's crazy. | 04:03 |
| jgriffith | avishay: well, even without dd... | 04:04 |
| avishay | jgriffith: HOWEVER, given this crazy behavior, there is a bug :) | 04:04 |
| jgriffith | avishay: the problem is you can't multi-attach a volume | 04:04 |
| jgriffith | avishay: so even if it's not LVM, local whatever | 04:04 |
| avishay | jgriffith: wait, let me look at the test, which was the basis for your question | 04:04 |
| jgriffith | avishay: the point is you can't actually attach a volume twice | 04:04 |
| jgriffith | avishay: sorry... I should probably link the bug | 04:04 |
| jgriffith | avishay: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1406703 | 04:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1406703 in Cinder kilo "Deleting VM with an attached volume during copy-volume-to-image causes the volume remains in-use state" [Medium,In progress] | 04:05 |
| jgriffith | avishay: and, I mean... "Yeah" it's in-use because it has to be attached to do an upload to Glance | 04:05 |
| jgriffith | duhhhh :) | 04:05 |
| avishay | jgriffith: so you're saying that the upload process is like an attachment, which should be illegal? | 04:05 |
| avishay | OK :) | 04:05 |
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| jgriffith | avishay: exactly... because the upload process IS an attach | 04:06 |
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| jgriffith | avishay: unless you're using some crazy thing like a converged storage thing that is both Glance and Block | 04:06 |
| jgriffith | and does it all internally | 04:06 |
| avishay | jgriffith: again, i agree that the API should be changed. Maybe an exception could be made for those that do clone, but Cinder doesn't really do those exceptions. | 04:06 |
| jgriffith | avishay: ahh... yeah, I see what you're saying now too | 04:08 |
| avishay | jgriffith: yea we're agreeing :) | 04:08 |
| jgriffith | avishay: so yeah, that's the sticky point right | 04:08 |
| jgriffith | avishay: one-off exceptions create "problems" IMO | 04:08 |
| jgriffith | avishay: but yeah... we tend to agree in the end :) | 04:08 |
| jgriffith | avishay: BTW... how have you been? | 04:08 |
| avishay | jgriffith: i agree that when you have two backends and one supports the behavior and the other doesn't, the API behaves strangely | 04:09 |
| avishay | jgriffith: perhaps a config option that would be applied globally to all backends in the deployment - either you support volume->image for attached, or not - not per backend | 04:09 |
| avishay | doing well, working on my "converged storage thing that is both Glance and Block" :P | 04:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Revert "Get volume from db again before updating it's status" https://review.openstack.org/176170 | 04:11 |
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| avishay | jgriffith: don't agree with the revert. given the behavior that cinder allows, the patch fixes a bug. the fact that the behavior shouldn't be allowed is a bigger issue. | 04:19 |
| jgriffith | avishay: yeah, I know nobody is going to agree with it :) | 04:19 |
| jgriffith | avishay: that's ok | 04:19 |
| avishay | jgriffith: but people are apparently doing this, so it should at least not mess up volume states | 04:20 |
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| rakesh_mishra_ | Hi | 04:44 |
| rakesh_mishra_ | I just want to know if i create a snapshot of a volume then what will be the size of the snapshot in file system | 04:45 |
| rakesh_mishra_ | ? | 04:45 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: what driver? | 04:46 |
| jgriffith | avishay: bahh | 04:51 |
| jgriffith | avishay: apparantly that _feature_ has been there *forever* | 04:51 |
| avishay | jgriffith: moo | 04:51 |
| rakesh_mishra_ | LVM and ceph for both | 04:51 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: so those are two different things for starters :) | 04:51 |
| jgriffith | LVM a snap takes no new space | 04:52 |
| avishay | jgriffith: sorry i saw "bahh" and thought we were doing animal noises | 04:52 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: snaps are COW files | 04:52 |
| avishay | jgriffith: yes | 04:52 |
| jgriffith | avishay: LOL | 04:52 |
| jgriffith | avishay: now I get it! | 04:52 |
| jgriffith | sheep, cow | 04:52 |
| jgriffith | oink | 04:52 |
| avishay | haha :) | 04:52 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: copy on write | 04:53 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: and it's not "on the file system" | 04:53 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: it's an LV carved out of the Volume Group | 04:53 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: Ceph is a different beat | 04:53 |
| jgriffith | beast | 04:53 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: but they do similar things | 04:53 |
| rakesh_mishra_ | jgriffith: LV carved? | 04:54 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: sounds like you might want to do some research on how all of this works before you worry about snapshots and filesystem allocation | 04:55 |
| rakesh_mishra_ | jgriffith: if i create 5 snapshots of 50 GB volume then total available quota should decrease na? | 04:55 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: You didn't ask about quota, you asked about filesystem | 04:56 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: that's entirely different | 04:56 |
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| rakesh_mishra_ | jgriffith: sorry i think i am not able to clear the things i will try to explain it with the example | 04:57 |
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| jgriffith | rakesh | 04:57 |
| jgriffith | hmm.. guess he doesn't like me | 04:57 |
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| jgriffith | ahh... bad connection | 04:58 |
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| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra: you're back :) | 04:59 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra: so... what I was saying was | 04:59 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra: quotas in Cinder are completely different | 04:59 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra: and we have quotas for both snapshots and volumes | 04:59 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra: those quotas are both "count" and "capacity" | 04:59 |
| rakesh_mishra | jgriffith: yes | 04:59 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra: so there's "snapshot space in Gig", "volume space in Gig" and count fo rboth | 05:00 |
| rakesh_mishra | so when i create 5 GB of volume and create the snapshot then what should be the size of the snapshot , it just has a pointer to point volume or it copy full volume | 05:00 |
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| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra: the actual size of the snapshot is basically zero | 05:02 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra: but the quota used is 5 GB | 05:02 |
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| rakesh_mishra_ | jgriffith: sorry there was some network issue | 05:05 |
| rakesh_mishra_ | jgriffith: you got my point? | 05:06 |
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| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: no, sorry... | 05:09 |
| jgriffith | did you see my response to your question? | 05:10 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: do you have a development topic to discuss? | 05:10 |
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| jgriffith | nikesh: Can you please do something about the overwhelming spam your CI system is putting in every review? | 05:22 |
| jgriffith | nikesh: if it continues I'll propose that it be disabled | 05:22 |
| jgriffith | nikesh: for example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175583/ | 05:23 |
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| jgriffith | nikesh: 7 comments from VEDAMS SCST, all FAILURE, ALL of them failure to launch your OpenStack Instance | 05:24 |
| rakesh_mishra__ | jgriffith: sorry i think there was some network problem so it was disconnecting frequently | 05:25 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra__: no worries | 05:26 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra__: I'm getting ready to sign off anyway :) | 05:26 |
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| rakesh_mishra__ | jgriffith: so when i create 5 GB of volume and create the snapshot then what should be the size of the snapshot , it just has a pointer to point volume or it copy full volume, so whenever i create the volume it decrease my total available quota but it does not do the same thing in case of snapshotsso when i create 5 GB of volume and create the snapshot then what should be the size of the snapshot , it just has a pointer to point volume or i | 05:27 |
| rakesh_mishra__ | t copy full volume , so whenever i create the volume it decrease my total available quota but it does not do the same thing in case of snapshots | 05:27 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra__: I don't know how else to say it, but to say it again: | 05:27 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra__: quota and actual usage are two completely different things | 05:28 |
| rakesh_mishra__ | jgriffith: sorry i just did copy paste one second .... :D | 05:28 |
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| rakesh_mishra_ | jgriffith: so when i create 5 GB of volume and create the snapshot then what should be the size of the snapshot , it just has a pointer to point volume or it copy full volume, | 05:29 |
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| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: http://www.softpanorama.org/Internals/Unix_filesystems/snapshots.shtml | 05:30 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: you can also try "www.google.com" | 05:30 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: I've answered the question multiple times, but it seems you keep askign the same thing over and over | 05:30 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: afraid I can't offer much more help | 05:31 |
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| rakesh_mishra_ | jgriffith: sorry but i tried a lot to find the answer then i asked u | 05:31 |
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| rakesh_mishra_ | jgriffith: Thanks for the help | 05:32 |
| rakesh_mishra_ | :) | 05:32 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: again, try here: http://www.softpanorama.org/Internals/Unix_filesystems/snapshots.shtml#Linux_LVM_snapshots | 05:32 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: which is more detailed explanation of exactly what I've said multiple times | 05:33 |
| jgriffith | rakesh_mishra_: also the first hit on a google search :) | 05:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Remove force check from copy_volume_to_image https://review.openstack.org/176174 | 05:47 |
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| jgriffith | night avishay | 05:52 |
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| nikesh | jgriffith: sure | 05:54 |
| nikesh | i will llok into this now | 05:54 |
| nikesh | thanks | 05:54 |
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| avishay | jgriffith: good night! | 06:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Deepak C Shetty proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Cinder part of volume snapshot improvements https://review.openstack.org/172808 | 07:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | yogeshprasad proposed openstack/cinder: Add chap support to CloudByte cinder driver https://review.openstack.org/173733 | 08:34 |
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| zigo | Cinder's automatic config generation is missing some config fragments for the keystone_authtoken for me. | 08:59 |
| zigo | Any idea why? | 08:59 |
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| zigo | This broke my automated install ... | 09:00 |
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| lifeless | zigo: could be a change in the new keystonemiddleware release? | 09:13 |
| zigo | lifeless: I am still using version 1.5.0 | 09:17 |
| zigo | lifeless: Is version 1.6.0 for Kilo? | 09:17 |
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| zigo | It doesn't seem like it when I look into the global-reqs. | 09:18 |
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| lifeless | zigo: the gate is wedged right now | 09:27 |
| lifeless | zigo: but dhellmann did a mass release of things earlier today | 09:27 |
| zigo | lifeless: Of oslo stuff? | 09:28 |
| zigo | So close from the release? | 09:28 |
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| zigo | Oh, just saw the releases, with (libery) on the subject line ... | 09:38 |
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| jordanP | DuncanT, hi. I'd like to know how you get to produce this result here http://paste.openstack.org/show/205029/ (3rd party CI statistics) ? How can I get the same output for my CI ? | 10:22 |
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| mdbooth | Looking for a gut reaction to this backport: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175349/ | 12:51 |
| mdbooth | It's not a regular cherry-pick, and I'm wondering what the chances are of it ever going in | 12:51 |
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| smcginnis | mdbooth: Looks like it addresses a very valid concern. Just gut reaction from me, but my feel is it should get fixed. | 12:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | yogeshprasad proposed openstack/cinder: Add chap support to CloudByte cinder driver https://review.openstack.org/173733 | 13:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Remove force check from copy_volume_to_image https://review.openstack.org/176174 | 13:46 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Working late and up at it already, huh? | 13:54 |
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| eharney | has anyone seen a large number of cinderclient tests fail with requests_mock.exceptions.NoMockAddress ? | 13:57 |
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| e0ne | is any news about grenade job? | 13:59 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I believe it has been fixed. | 14:00 |
| smcginnis | Looks like it's passing now. | 14:00 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: thanks! lets't wait | 14:01 |
| eharney | what was the fix? | 14:01 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: Yeah, watching a few this morning. I rechecked a few patches, so going to wait and see. | 14:01 |
| smcginnis | eharney: I saw a bug for it last night. Let me see if I can find it. | 14:02 |
| smcginnis | Two in queue that have passed grenade. So far so good. | 14:02 |
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| smcginnis | eharney: Browser history isn't helping me out here. :\ | 14:04 |
| eharney | not too important for now, was just curious | 14:04 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Yeah, I'm kind of curious on what was the cause/fix too. | 14:05 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Ping. | 14:46 |
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| jgriffith | jungleboyj: hey | 14:52 |
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| jgriffith | there he is... jungleboyj :) | 14:53 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Hey, sorry, network being flaky for some reason. | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: what's up? | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | seems to be going around a log | 14:53 |
| jgriffith | lot | 14:53 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: So, I wanted to make sure I was giving a right answer. Have a question about whether it is possible to set up LVM to not use iSCSI if the VG is local to the system where the instance is running. | 14:54 |
| jungleboyj | That isn't something that is supported. Right? | 14:54 |
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| jgriffith | jungleboyj: well, there used to be an unmaintained driver to do that | 14:54 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: not sure if thingee removed it or not... lemme look | 14:54 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Ok, I thought I remembered some discussion around that. | 14:55 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: That was why I was unsure. | 14:55 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: It's still there for some reason block_device.py | 14:55 |
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| jgriffith | jungleboyj: but I can't imagine that it works very well | 14:55 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: never tested, never maintained | 14:56 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: also I believe EMC has a special product driver that does that sort of thing as well that's out in the wild, but not Upstream | 14:56 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: but you'd have to ask xyang1 about that one | 14:57 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Ok. Thanks for the info. | 14:57 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: sure | 14:57 |
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| winston-d_ | thingee: meeting today? | 14:57 |
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| Swanson | Is it safe to recheck this morning? Haven't seen that much red since kill bill. | 14:58 |
| jungleboyj | winston-d: Good question. | 14:58 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: ? | 14:58 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: Nice. | 14:58 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: winston-d_ he has an agenda | 14:58 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: winston-d_ planning for L mid-cycle meetup | 14:58 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Ok. | 14:58 |
| jgriffith | I probably won't be there, need to finish things up to actually get to the summit first :) | 14:59 |
| jgriffith | but I may be able to push my other meeting out | 14:59 |
| jungleboyj | I need to leave by 11:45 or so. | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: We don't have anything out in the wild:) | 15:00 |
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| jgriffith | xyang1: haha... ok | 15:01 |
| winston-d_ | I thought we were to discuss the design summit proposals today, no? | 15:01 |
| Swanson | Solidfire wants to solve my datacenter needs... | 15:04 |
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| jgriffith | Swanson: don't blame me for any span you recieve please :( | 15:05 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: it's been a problem in the past and all I can say is "I have nothing to do with it" :( | 15:06 |
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| winston-d_ | is there a etherpad for summit proposals? | 15:06 |
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| geguileo | winston-d_: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-proposed-sessions | 15:07 |
| geguileo | winston-d_: Is that what you're looking for? | 15:07 |
| Swanson | jgriffith: It isn't quite as good as the resellers that want to sell me Dell servers. | 15:09 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: OHHHH that's priceless! | 15:10 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: Can I interest you in a z13 ? The internal spam tells me now is the time to sell them. | 15:10 |
| winston-d_ | geguileo: yes, thx! | 15:11 |
| geguileo | np | 15:12 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj: :) | 15:12 |
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| e0ne | confirmed: grenade job works now:) | 15:41 |
| thingee | hemnafk: I think there was an issue in the brick tag release job. I'm waiting for infra to not be putting out all the fires before I bug them to take a look. | 15:41 |
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| e0ne | DuncanT: high. are you going to add topic about A-A ha to design sessions? | 15:51 |
| e0ne | s/high/hi | 15:51 |
| * e0ne should disable autocomplete to typing | 15:52 | |
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| hemna | mornin | 15:52 |
| jungleboyj | morning | 15:53 |
| e0ne | evening:) | 15:54 |
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| hemna | :) | 15:54 |
| hemna | thingee, ok. if there is anything I can help with, let me know | 15:55 |
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| avishay | hemna: yo | 15:56 |
| jgriffith | hemna: ping | 15:56 |
| hemna | yo yo yo | 15:56 |
| avishay | wow popular | 15:56 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 15:56 |
| hemna | crap, what did I break now | 15:56 |
| jgriffith | avishay: you first | 15:56 |
| avishay | hemna: can i do "pip install brick" yet? :) | 15:56 |
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| hemna | avishay, not yet. thingee is working on it. | 15:57 |
| avishay | hemna: ah ok cool | 15:57 |
| avishay | jgriffith: your turn :) | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | :) | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | hemna: you see my response here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175077/ | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | hemna: wondering why you need it logged twice? | 15:57 |
| hemna | avishay, the github tree has been tagged, but something went wrong with it, so the hope is to get it done as soon as we can. | 15:57 |
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| avishay | cool cool | 15:57 |
| hemna | jgriffith, is this the version # pooping ? | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | yeah | 15:58 |
| jgriffith | hemna: you arleady dump it in your driver | 15:58 |
| hemna | ok so it's not exactly the same | 15:58 |
| jgriffith | as info | 15:58 |
| hemna | we are dumping the common class version and the client version there | 15:58 |
| hemna | init_host dumps the driver version | 15:58 |
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| hemna | so it's 3 different versions we poop out that are important | 15:58 |
| jgriffith | well then add the third one to your driver :) | 15:59 |
| avishay | poop poop poop | 15:59 |
| hemna | sure, but I still think it's a valuable thing for other drivers do have no ? | 15:59 |
| jgriffith | Or actually, I'll add it as part of that patch if you want | 15:59 |
| hemna | I was just trying to be consistent for everyone when I added the init_host logging. | 15:59 |
| jgriffith | hemna: nah... I think it's noise. But, I was hoping others would review | 15:59 |
| jgriffith | hemna: fact is if you're the only one that reviews and that's what you want, I'm happy to put it in there :) | 15:59 |
| hemna | it's been pretty critical in a few customer escalations we've had to get those versions. FWIW. | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | hemna: only fair in exchange for the review :) | 16:00 |
| hemna | if it's in, then +A from me :P | 16:00 |
| winston-d_ | thingee: meeting? | 16:00 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: Well, I get that... but I'm not sure why you wouldn't log it in the driver completely instead of partially... Also the update stats | 16:00 |
| thingee | winston-d_: it's happening right now | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | but anyway | 16:00 |
| hemna | jgriffith, sorry if I'm being a pest about it | 16:00 |
| hemna | sure, I can add the driver version dumping in my driver | 16:01 |
| hemna | drivers | 16:01 |
| hemna | I'll have to add them to all of our drivers then. | 16:01 |
| hemna | I guess i'm ok with that if you really don't want it being dumped out in init_host. | 16:01 |
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| hemna | it's really only 'noise' at driver startup though. | 16:02 |
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| rmstar | sorry to bug you guys...another question :) in cinder.conf, when we set volume_clear to none, it just does not clear the volume memory. I just wanted to confirm that it basically means that it just doesn't erase the volume, but the memory is still freed up to be reused by cinder, right? | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | rmstar: Weekly cinder meeting going on right now. Might not get an answer for a while yet. | 16:24 |
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| rmstar | smcginnis: ah...ok. thanks :) | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add resource tag to logging in volume.manager.py https://review.openstack.org/175077 | 16:28 |
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| vilobhmm1 | dulek : ping | 16:32 |
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| * e0ne bb in ~2 hours | 16:49 | |
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| nikesh | jgriffith: hi,sorry for the yesterday CI issue,we had some network issue due to which CI failed,i am looking into that and make it sure that it will not affect any patch, | 16:57 |
| vilobhmm11 | DuncanT : ping | 16:59 |
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| DuncanT | vilobhmm11: Hi. | 16:59 |
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| DuncanT | vilobhmm11: Only around for a few more minutes | 17:00 |
| kmartin | thingee, is the goal to tag the next cinder client soon, do you have a date in mind? | 17:00 |
| vilobhmm11 | sure will be quick | 17:00 |
| vilobhmm11 | DuncanT : on the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-proposed-sessions you mentioned that Active / Active cinder-volume: The way forward can be merge with above session | 17:01 |
| DuncanT | Yup | 17:01 |
| vilobhmm11 | since both r sessions tries to solve the same underlying problem I would be happy with that proposal… | 17:01 |
| vilobhmm11 | sure | 17:01 |
| DuncanT | Excellent | 17:01 |
| vilobhmm11 | thank you I will send out my etherpad where I have all the notes | 17:02 |
| DuncanT | Thanks | 17:02 |
| vilobhmm11 | cool | 17:02 |
| DuncanT | vilobhmm11: I really want to see progress on this in the near future | 17:02 |
| vilobhmm11 | me too +1 | 17:02 |
| DuncanT | vilobhmm11: Glad you're interested | 17:02 |
| vilobhmm11 | yep I am …thats it I had … | 17:03 |
| vilobhmm11 | good night! | 17:04 |
| DuncanT | Good night :-) | 17:04 |
| vilobhmm11 | must be late at your end | 17:04 |
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| jgriffith | kmartin: yeah, I know they're making progress, I was just saying it doesn't exist yet :) | 17:06 |
| jgriffith | kmartin: thanks for the bug links | 17:07 |
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| xyang1 | thingee: Doc patch for oversubscription: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176181/ | 17:21 |
| xyang1 | thingee: Doc patch for CG update: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176400/ | 17:22 |
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| esker | thingee: I didn't actually catch the prospective dates (and the Etherpad didn't indicate it) for the mid-cycle meetup. | 17:26 |
| esker | thingee: had those been established? | 17:26 |
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| kmartin | thingee, sorry just saw the ML that cinderclient was released yesterday :) | 17:29 |
| xyang1 | kmartin: ? | 17:30 |
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| xyang1 | kmartin: Do you have a link? I have a couple of patches pending:( | 17:31 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit is restarting to clear hung stream-events tasks. any review events between 16:48 and 17:32 utc will need to be rechecked or have their approval votes reapplied to trigger testing in zuul | 17:32 | |
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| kmartin | xyang1, ML yesterday [openstack-dev] [release] python-cinderclient release 1.2.0(liberty) | 17:32 |
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| kmartin | xyang1, http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2015-04/msg01849.html | 17:33 |
| rhe00 | where can I find the OpenStack template slides for presentations? | 17:33 |
| jgriffith | esker: no, I don't think that's been settled | 17:33 |
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| jgriffith | esker: based on the meeting I think the idea was beginning of Aug, whatever works for companies that can host | 17:33 |
| xyang1 | kmartin: Liberty already? | 17:34 |
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| xyang1 | What happened to Kilo? | 17:34 |
| kmartin | rhe00, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vancouver_fc_in_openstack or direct https://www.dropbox.com/s/2rc8mk3sbpdhicl/PastPresentFutureFibreChannel.odp?dl=0 | 17:34 |
| xyang1 | thingee: ? | 17:35 |
| rhe00 | kmartin: thanks | 17:35 |
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| kmartin | xyang1, pretty sure that Kilo is 1.1.0? have to check with thingee on the reason, I know some issues were raised with clients going in last minute and breaking stuff on the ML | 17:36 |
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| xyang1 | jgriffith: hemna jungleboyj thingee , can anyone help review CG cinderclient side changes? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144567/ , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148790/ | 17:39 |
| jungleboyj | xyang1: Can try to look at those. | 17:39 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: Thanks! | 17:40 |
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| hemna | xyang1, I presume we will do another cinderclient cut before Liberty ships right ? | 17:41 |
| hemna | xyang1, I have multiattach changes I need to get in. | 17:41 |
| xyang1 | hemna: I don't know, need to ask thingee | 17:41 |
| xyang1 | hemna: Should the multiattach change get in Kilo or liberty? | 17:42 |
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| hemna | L | 17:42 |
| xyang1 | hemna: Ok, how can we a kilo cut after liberty cut? I am confused. Backport? | 17:43 |
| hemna | so you have client changes you need in for K ? | 17:43 |
| xyang1 | hemna: Yes, two cg api changes | 17:44 |
| hemna | oops | 17:44 |
| xyang1 | hemna: Cinderclient changes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144567 , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148790 | 17:45 |
| xyang1 | hemna: Can you help review them? | 17:46 |
| hemna | xyang1, ok I'll look them over :) | 17:46 |
| xyang1 | hemna: Thanks! | 17:46 |
| jungleboyj | xyang1: I don't see the consistency group BP referenced. | 17:46 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: It is there https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144567 | 17:47 |
| esker | jgriffith: thx | 17:47 |
| jgriffith | esker: sure | 17:47 |
| xyang1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144567/8//COMMIT_MSG | 17:47 |
| jungleboyj | Yes, but I can't find the actual BP. | 17:47 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: That is not my fault, once api changes are merged, the link is wrong | 17:48 |
| jungleboyj | Oh, it is because the cinder side changes already went in? | 17:48 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: Yes | 17:49 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: That is why I want the client side to be in kilo as well | 17:49 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: Bp is still there, but the auto link is wrong after the bp is complete | 17:50 |
| hemna | xyang1, do_consisgroup_update | 17:50 |
| hemna | there is no output or for that one ? | 17:50 |
| xyang1 | hemna: What do you mean? | 17:51 |
| hemna | so when someone calls it from the cmdln what output do they see if it works? | 17:51 |
| hemna | nothing? | 17:51 |
| hemna | _find_consistencygroup | 17:51 |
| hemna | does that poop something out ? | 17:51 |
| ameade | apparently my mind is trained to easily detect the word 'poop' anywhere in my workspace | 17:52 |
| * jungleboyj is eating lunch and doesn't want to think about poop. | 17:53 | |
| jgriffith | eharney: LOL | 17:53 |
| hemna | :P | 17:53 |
| eharney | jgriffith: hmm? | 17:53 |
| jgriffith | eharney: I just went to log a bug for notification counts, launchpad informed me I was stupid and it's already logged... by me :) | 17:53 |
| jgriffith | eharney: but the good news is, it's assigned to you :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1412513 | 17:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1412513 in Cinder "Intermittent unit test failures for incorrect notifier count" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eric Harney (eharney) | 17:54 |
| eharney | jgriffith: oh yeah... i haven't seen that one crop up much lately | 17:54 |
| jgriffith | eharney: I hadn't either, that's why I forgot about it... BUT | 17:54 |
| jgriffith | eharney: I've now hit it 4 or 5 times in the last 24 hours | 17:54 |
| jgriffith | between gate and local | 17:54 |
| eharney | i've never managed to hit in in a local env | 17:54 |
| jgriffith | eharney: yeah, it's tricky... I can't make it repeat at all | 17:55 |
| eharney | i also poked around in there and couldn't really ever find a probably source of the problem | 17:55 |
| jgriffith | eharney: only thing I'm noticing is that it does seem to always be in consistency group tests | 17:55 |
| eharney | i think something is broken somewhere with our mocking/fake_notifier stuff where data from some tests maybe leaks into others... but i don't know where | 17:56 |
| jgriffith | eharney: I'll check if we have an ER and if not create one, so we can get more stats | 17:56 |
| jgriffith | eharney: yeah, sadly I think we have A LOT of that (leakage) | 17:56 |
| eharney | jgriffith: i don't think there is one, but it should be easy to make one now | 17:56 |
| jgriffith | eharney: yeah, I'll see if I can't do that here shortly | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Remove force check from copy_volume_to_image https://review.openstack.org/176174 | 17:57 |
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| xyang1 | hemna: Sorry, I was pulled away for something. So find_consistencygroup returns an entry, there is a consistencygroups.py there and an update function | 18:13 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith, jungleboyj: Just skimming through what I missed while away. Someone was just talking about block driver recently. | 18:14 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith, jungleboyj: DuncanT was involved in the conversation if I remember correct. | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: cool | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | SOmeone is using it and has it for some special solution. | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: Mirantis is the only one I know of | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: they use it for hadoop service | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: It could quite possibly Mirantis. Wish I could remember who that was. | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | YES | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | :) | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | Hadoop, that was it. | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | yeah | 18:15 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok. | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | Mixed on whether that should've been left in or not, but not my biz | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Apparently they test it internally a lot. | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: they test it internally against *their* use case, not ours :) | 18:16 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: it's just a matter of time before a customer files a bug | 18:16 |
| jgriffith | :( | 18:16 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Would that be considered one of the "open source solution" drivers that should be added to Jenkins? Kinda like sheepdog and ceph? | 18:16 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Seems like that should be made exnternally avaialable. | 18:16 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I agree. | 18:16 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: yeah, but the real problem is it "can't" do Cinder things | 18:16 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Oh, true. | 18:17 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: in other words the test file would look kinda funny with all the skips in it ;) | 18:17 |
| smcginnis | It's a limited driver, isn't it. | 18:17 |
| jgriffith | very much so yes | 18:17 |
| * smcginnis hasn't actually looked at the code. | 18:17 | |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: and I still argue on a regular basis that if you use a good dedicated 10G iSCSI network that's not typically the bottle-neck | 18:17 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I agree. Especially locally, iscsi shouldn't have _that_ much overhead. | 18:18 |
| jgriffith | anywho | 18:18 |
| jgriffith | nah.. I did a bunch of benchmarks on that a while back | 18:18 |
| jgriffith | negligible diff between local, iscsi and FC | 18:18 |
| jgriffith | but it does require a dedicated iSCSI network at least 10G with Jumbo Frames | 18:19 |
| smcginnis | I wonder if they've actually tried it and benchmarked for their solution. | 18:19 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: they said they did | 18:19 |
| jgriffith | anyway, not my problem :) | 18:19 |
| smcginnis | Well, it is always more difficult when you have to get the networking guys involved. :) | 18:19 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: ain't that the truth.. they're almost as bad as the Storage Folks | 18:19 |
| jgriffith | :) | 18:19 |
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| jungleboyj | Well, that is good information. I think the guy that was asking was just surprised that iSCSI needed to be used locally. | 18:25 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Probably a good point to call out that it doesn't support the full feature set. | 18:25 |
| jungleboyj | Right. And that is may not provide the benefit they are assuming. | 18:26 |
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| smcginnis | Hmm, I'm seeing failures with test_volume_boot_pattern now too. :[ | 18:38 |
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| smcginnis | Anyone seeing this: "error while converting raw: Device is too small" | 18:38 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: that's no good | 18:39 |
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| smcginnis | I don't suppose we spit out anywhere the size that the OS thinks the LUN is? | 18:41 |
| smcginnis | Looks fine from my end. | 18:41 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: so it's in the image properties (sometimes) | 18:42 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: I'm not sure about that error message, but the other thing is local storage during the convert | 18:42 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Ah, no space in the conversion dir? | 18:42 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Using the same default image AFAIK. Not sure how it could not have enough space. | 18:43 |
| smcginnis | Is this bytes? x-image-meta-size: 25165824 | 18:43 |
| smcginnis | 24MB too big? | 18:44 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: we convert it to 1 gb | 18:48 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: We're reporting our LUN size of exactly 1 gb (1073741824 bytes). | 18:53 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Do you know what the command is to convert it to 1 gb? I wonder if it's something silly like being off by a block or something. | 18:55 |
| nikesh | jgriffith: hi good morning | 18:56 |
| jgriffith | nikesh: hey ya | 18:57 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: not sure... GiB vs GB? | 18:57 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: something stupid like that possibly? | 18:57 |
| jgriffith | but I'm guessing, I have no idea where the error is actually coming from :) | 18:57 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: image_utils.fetch_to_row | 18:58 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Yeah, I'm wondering if where we inflate the image gives any clues. From our reported block count we are right on. | 18:58 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Thanks, I'll take a look. | 18:58 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Aha! That's in the traceback. | 18:59 |
| smcginnis | So it looks like it isn't an issue with my LUN. It doesn't have enough local space. | 18:59 |
| smcginnis | Now to figure out why that's happening and how I can prevent it. | 19:00 |
| smcginnis | .... after I go to this meeting. :{ | 19:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Kilo Consistency Group CLI update https://review.openstack.org/144567 | 19:03 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: ok, you're killing me | 19:15 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: that's the method you're calling :) | 19:19 |
| jgriffith | hemna: so you're just logging the same thing twice | 19:19 |
| jgriffith | hemna: driver.get_version just returns the global self.VERSION that you already log | 19:20 |
| jgriffith | hemna: an you only have a single "def get_version" in the san/hp directory | 19:21 |
| jgriffith | hemna: so I don't get the problem | 19:21 |
| jgriffith | hemna: you're currently not distinguishing between commone_verison and driver_version anyway | 19:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add resource tag to logging in volume.manager.py https://review.openstack.org/175077 | 19:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Create Consistency Group from CG Snapshot CLI https://review.openstack.org/148790 | 19:32 |
| nikesh | jgriffth :we have some issue in our ISP,we are looking into that | 19:37 |
| nikesh | now we are not commenting on patch | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Kilo Consistency Group CLI update https://review.openstack.org/144567 | 19:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Create Consistency Group from CG Snapshot CLI https://review.openstack.org/148790 | 19:42 |
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| nikesh | hopes its ok | 19:44 |
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| ameade | could I get another core to give this live instance migration fix a look? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170990/ | 19:47 |
| ameade | there might be a beer in it for you if you attend the summit! | 19:48 |
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| angela-s | ameade: bribing, does that really work? | 19:52 |
| ameade | yes, yes it does | 19:52 |
| angela-s | haha, be careful, you may end up having to buy A LOT of beer | 19:53 |
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| ameade | heh, i'll be the guy sitting on the keg in summit sessions | 19:54 |
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| dustins | ameade: bring some craft NC brews with you. That qualifies as carry-on, right? | 19:55 |
| ameade | dustins: the trick is to ship them to your hotel beforehand | 19:56 |
| dustins | ameade: Always knew you were an ideas guy, haha | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/cinder: service child process normal SIGTERM exit https://review.openstack.org/176455 | 19:59 |
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| rhe00 | nick rhedlind | 20:03 |
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| smcginnis | rhedlind: Your cover is blown. :) | 20:04 |
| rhedlind | I know. :) | 20:04 |
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| rhedlind | I figured it was time to drop my 00 status | 20:04 |
| smcginnis | Hah. Lost your license to kill? | 20:05 |
| rhedlind | nah, the MI-6 life was getting old. | 20:05 |
| smcginnis | ;-) | 20:06 |
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| xyang1 | jgriffith: Was your unit test patch just got merged? My inbox is flooded with emails about merge failures:) | 20:18 |
| jgriffith | hemna: ahh... I get it | 20:19 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: probably :( | 20:19 |
| jgriffith | hemna: geesh | 20:19 |
| jgriffith | hemna: so the iscsi and fc components | 20:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Logging not using oslo.i18n guidelines (scheduler) https://review.openstack.org/173368 | 20:24 |
| * smcginnis shakes fist at jgriffith | 20:25 | |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Kidding. :) | 20:25 |
| jgriffith | :) | 20:25 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: I'm sure I'll be getting all sorts of hate mail | 20:29 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: but knew that was the price | 20:29 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: I bet. But it had to be done and no easy way to do it. Oh well. | 20:29 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Glad it wasn't me though. ;-) | 20:30 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: LOL | 20:30 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: was considering going through and rebasing for people... but nah :) | 20:30 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add resource tag to logging in volume.manager.py https://review.openstack.org/175077 | 20:30 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Yeah, that would be above and beyond. Most will be like mine and be pretty trivial. | 20:31 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: hopefully so | 20:31 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: they should be | 20:31 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: We'll see who is watching their patches. | 20:31 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: hehe.. victiim o fmy own rebase :) | 20:31 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: And keyboard. | 20:31 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 20:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add resource tag to logging in volume.manager.py https://review.openstack.org/175077 | 20:38 |
| jgriffith | There! finally! What a PITA | 20:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Remove force check from copy_volume_to_image https://review.openstack.org/176174 | 20:39 |
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| jgriffith | hey thingee ... this mean anything to you: WARNING:keystoneclient.auth.identity.base:Failed to contact the endpoint at http://127.0.0.1:8776/v2/9f75f6495e304e5d872e4819e25806c2 for discovery. Fallback to using that endpoint as the base url. | 21:11 |
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| zigo | Could someone send me a cinder.conf.sample? The one generated with the Debian package for RC1 seems wrong, I need to compare it with something which is known to be working. | 22:33 |
| zigo | jgriffith: Could you do that for me? | 22:33 |
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| patrickeast | zigo: i generated one off of the latest master branch (as of today), can be found here http://ec2-54-67-119-204.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/cinder.conf.sample | 22:46 |
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| zigo | patrickeast: Thanks a lot, will run a diff right away now! :) | 22:46 |
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| zigo | patrickeast: Then there's a bug in Cinder. How come the keystone_authtoken doesn't have all the directives? | 22:49 |
| zigo | There's no admin_tenant_name, admin_user or admin_password in this file ... | 22:50 |
| zigo | It stops at "#hash_algorithms = md5" and all what's after is now missing ... | 22:52 |
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| zigo | auth_host, auth_port, auth_protocol, identity_uri, admin_token, admin_user, admin_password and admin_tenant_name are missing directives. | 22:53 |
| patrickeast | hmm thats strange, not sure why they wouldn’t show up | 22:53 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: thingee ^ you guys know anything about it? | 22:54 |
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| morganfainberg | zigo, what is going on with auth_token? | 23:08 |
| morganfainberg | zigo, in cinder? | 23:08 |
| zigo | morganfainberg: It's gone away from the generated conf.sample | 23:08 |
| morganfainberg | oh someone probably just missed labelling it as a library | 23:09 |
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| morganfainberg | or some stuff is missing? | 23:09 |
| morganfainberg | and some stuff is there | 23:09 |
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| morganfainberg | we recently did a shuffle of some config options are deprecated for removal | 23:09 |
| morganfainberg | ones that have been deprecated for a while. | 23:10 |
| zigo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1447380 | 23:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1447380 in Cinder "wrong cinder.conf.sample generation: missing directives for keystone_authtoken (at least)" [Undecided,New] | 23:11 |
| zigo | morganfainberg: I don't think all of these are gone: auth_host, auth_port, auth_protocol, identity_uri, admin_token, admin_user, admin_password and admin_tenant_name | 23:12 |
| morganfainberg | zigo, no we didn't shuffle that much afaict | 23:13 |
| zigo | :) | 23:13 |
| zigo | So we do have a bug then. | 23:13 |
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| zigo | morganfainberg: To me, it's as if the last half of the keystone_authtoken of cinder has been trunkated or something (other core projects have the same begining, and the directives missing are all at then end, in the order I just gave above). | 23:16 |
| morganfainberg | all projects or just cinder? | 23:16 |
| morganfainberg | are missing the options that is | 23:16 |
| zigo | morganfainberg: Just cinder. | 23:16 |
| morganfainberg | ok | 23:17 |
| morganfainberg | sounds like a bug then with cinder | 23:17 |
| zigo | Other projects are correct, using the same keystonemiddleware.authtoken, which is why I believe the issue is in cinder only. | 23:17 |
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| morganfainberg | k | 23:17 |
| morganfainberg | agreed | 23:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Patrick East proposed openstack/cinder: Enable use of filter_function in PureISCIDriver https://review.openstack.org/176543 | 23:31 |
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| rmstar | sorry to bug you guys...another question :) in cinder.conf, when we set volume_clear to none, it just does not clear the volume memory. I just wanted to confirm that it basically means that it just doesn't erase the volume, but the memory is still freed up to be reused by cinder, right? | 23:36 |
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| patrickeast | rmstar: yea I think for LVM that is the behavior you would see, the volume is deleted and the disk space can be re-used but is not zeroed/filled in | 23:38 |
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| rmstar | patrickeast: thans patrickeast :) | 23:39 |
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| patrickeast | lame… looks like devstack broke | 23:57 |
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