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thingee | DuncanT: can you reply back to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166127/ | 00:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Thang Pham proposed openstack/cinder: Switch to oslo_versionedobjects https://review.openstack.org/160209 | 01:55 |
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openstackgerrit | wuyuting proposed openstack/cinder: Admin extends tenant's volume but change admin's quota https://review.openstack.org/155607 | 02:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Edwin Wang proposed openstack/cinder: Add iSCSI protocol support for IBM FlashSystem https://review.openstack.org/156206 | 02:58 |
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openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Implement function to import/export snapshots https://review.openstack.org/144590 | 03:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Edwin Wang proposed openstack/cinder: Add iSCSI protocol support for IBM FlashSystem https://review.openstack.org/156206 | 03:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Edwin Wang proposed openstack/cinder: Add iSCSI protocol support for IBM FlashSystem https://review.openstack.org/156206 | 03:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Edwin Wang proposed openstack/cinder: Add iSCSI protocol support for IBM FlashSystem https://review.openstack.org/156206 | 05:19 |
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openstackgerrit | wuyuting proposed openstack/cinder: Dell EQLX: CHAP config option has no value https://review.openstack.org/178509 | 05:23 |
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openstackgerrit | wanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Implement function to import/export snapshots https://review.openstack.org/144590 | 06:45 |
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openstackgerrit | James.Tsai proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume drivers for Infortrend Storage https://review.openstack.org/177113 | 08:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Pranali Deore proposed openstack/cinder: cinder os-attach api returns 500 https://review.openstack.org/178565 | 09:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Service healthcheck https://review.openstack.org/176233 | 09:30 |
openstackgerrit | Ph. Marek proposed openstack/cinder: Re-add DRBD driver. https://review.openstack.org/178573 | 09:31 |
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flip214 | thingee: ^^ failed gerrit with "dsvm-tempest-xio-fc http://oscilogs.x-io.com/73/178573/1/check/dsvm-tempest-xio-fc/ed3465e : NOT_REGISTERED" ?? | 09:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Pranali Deore proposed openstack/cinder: cinder os-detach api returns 500 https://review.openstack.org/178578 | 09:47 |
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openstackgerrit | yogeshprasad proposed openstack/cinder: Add chap support to CloudByte cinder driver https://review.openstack.org/173733 | 09:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Anton Arefiev proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add search_opts into the method list() for qos specs https://review.openstack.org/178588 | 10:05 |
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flip214 | DuncanT: THANK YOU, at least a few people around here try to help! | 10:08 |
DuncanT | flip214: You're welcome | 10:08 |
openstackgerrit | Ph. Marek proposed openstack/cinder: Re-add DRBD driver. https://review.openstack.org/178573 | 10:09 |
flip214 | see you in Vancouver, I hope! | 10:09 |
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mkoderer | DuncanT: hi, I proposed a spec for the ABC driver porting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177114/ | 12:08 |
mkoderer | if you have a sec for a review | 12:08 |
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flip214 | It's so nice to see that Openstack enforces good coding practices!! "H238 old style class declaration, use new style (inherit from `object`) | 12:32 |
flip214 | /sarcasm off | 12:32 |
flip214 | the line is "from oslo_config import cfg | 12:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Ph. Marek proposed openstack/cinder: Re-add DRBD driver. https://review.openstack.org/178573 | 12:46 |
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flip214 | DuncanT: john griffith asked for Cinder-Core feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134153/, so if you have a minute please answer him. Thanks a lot! | 13:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Pranali Deore proposed openstack/cinder: cinder os-detach api returns 500 https://review.openstack.org/178578 | 13:12 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to clear a stuck events queue. any change events between 13:29-14:05 utc should be rechecked or have their approval votes reapplied to trigger jobs | 14:05 | |
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e0ne | i've got my Canada visa:). summit is closer now | 14:08 |
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dulek | e0ne: By luck I've noticed that I've needed to get a new passport to be able travel to Canada. Last preparation are in progress. ;) | 14:16 |
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e0ne | dulek: i hope to see you during design sessions | 14:18 |
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dulek | e0ne: I'll definitely participate. :) | 14:21 |
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e0ne | :) | 14:25 |
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thingee | flip214: can you give me the link to the spec john garbutt is talking about? He linked to the same spec he left a comment on | 15:15 |
thingee | e0ne: nice :) | 15:15 |
jdandrea | Looking for secure_delete in cinder.conf documentation (Juno). Not seeing it. Does it go in [DEFAULT]? Maybe I can update the docs, unless that should be auto-generated (?). | 15:16 |
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annegentle | jdandrea: yeah that's strange since they are autogenerated | 15:17 |
annegentle | the config docs | 15:17 |
e0ne | jdandrea: it should be in driver's section for Kilo. let e check for J | 15:17 |
annegentle | e0ne: I'm searching in there too and not finding it | 15:18 |
jdandrea | tyvm | 15:18 |
jdandrea | If it's something I can help fix it will give me more practice. ;) | 15:18 |
* jdandrea just noticed "The New Kids On the Block" ONLY NOW and cracked himself up. | 15:19 | |
e0ne | jdandrea: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/stable/juno/cinder/volume/driver.py#L69 | 15:20 |
jdandrea | Ohhh, not secure_delete. | 15:22 |
jdandrea | That would explain it. :) | 15:22 |
jdandrea | ty | 15:23 |
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annegentle | jdandrea: it's odd, secure_delete is still in the devstack docs | 15:24 |
e0ne | jdandrea: it's a common mistake:( | 15:25 |
jdandrea | annegentle: Yep. That's where I noticed. No harm no foul. :) | 15:25 |
annegentle | jdandrea: well, fix it there if you can :) | 15:25 |
jdandrea | annegentle: Certainly! | 15:25 |
e0ne | jdandrea: and fyi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1255593 - could be related to your case issues | 15:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1255593 in Cinder "configuration options from the [DEFAULT] section are not applied to multiple backends" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:25 |
annegentle | thanks! | 15:25 |
jdandrea | You're very welcome. The more practice I get the better. | 15:25 |
jdandrea | Even with doc changes, it all counts. | 15:26 |
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jdandrea | e0ne: Thanks for the bug report. I haven't tried it just yet but we'll see. This particular cluster doesn't have multiple backends but this is great to know, thx. | 15:46 |
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e0ne | jdandrea: it's not only about multiple backends | 15:49 |
jdandrea | e0ne: Ohhh. | 15:50 |
e0ne | jdandrea: it's issue is about options inheritence from DEFAULT to drivers' sections | 15:51 |
jdandrea | e0ne: ... and not just devstack, and we WILL be using multiple backends at some point. | 15:51 |
jdandrea | Got it. | 15:51 |
jdandrea | This will be relevant then. <!> | 15:51 |
e0ne | yes | 15:51 |
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jdandrea | e0ne: Reality check Q. volume_clear goes on *every* node that runs cinder-volume, yes? | 15:54 |
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e0ne | jdandrea: yes. it's a cinder-volume option | 15:55 |
jdandrea | Good, tx. Just being extra sure. ;) | 15:55 |
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jdandrea | It was only set on the controller node. Oops. | 15:55 |
openstackgerrit | Andrew Durbin proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Cinder Volume Performance and Health collection for cinder volume drivers. https://review.openstack.org/178748 | 15:57 |
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rhe00_ | erlon: ping | 15:58 |
flip214 | DuncanT: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/drbd-driver ? | 15:58 |
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DuncanT | flip214: Probably worth having a cinder one too I think, it makes tracking the work easier - Mike does a lot of our prioritisation via blueprints. I think you can just copy & paste the text | 16:00 |
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mriedem | wow http://logs.openstack.org/40/164340/4/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/4ef4e88/logs/screen-c-vol.txt.gz?level=TRACE | 16:03 |
mriedem | that's a lot of errors | 16:03 |
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flip214 | thingee: I'm not sure why he repeated the spec link. | 16:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC driver honoring folder name after volume creation. https://review.openstack.org/177994 | 16:30 |
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scottda | xyang, hemna: bad assumptions Nova makes about connector are in compute/api.py:_local_delete(...) line 1783 | 16:58 |
scottda | I haven't filed a bug yet, but I'll be doing that... | 16:59 |
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vilobhmm1 | thingee : back from #openstack-meeting | 17:00 |
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dulek | So as use cases are involved - users would probably love to participate | 17:00 |
dulek | That would mean fishbowl | 17:00 |
jungleboyj | thingee: I need to run to an appointment. Back in about 45 minutes and will catch up then. | 17:01 |
xyang | scottda: will catch up later. thanks | 17:01 |
vilobhmm1 | i believe its an important feature…i would go through implementation details as well | 17:01 |
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hemna | scottda, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137466/ | 17:01 |
vilobhmm1 | and also race conditions involved…if at all any can be discussed … | 17:01 |
vilobhmm1 | thingee, DuncanT : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173141/ | 17:01 |
DuncanT | A certain amount of this is definitely x-project | 17:01 |
hemna | scottda, I haven't looked at that one yet, but that smells like it might be a fix in the area live migration needs. | 17:01 |
thingee | fine with fish bowl to get feedback ... | 17:02 |
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DuncanT | The behaviour of nested quotas should match in cinder/nova/swift | 17:02 |
thingee | implementation/race conditions won't be as interesting to users though | 17:02 |
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vilobhmm1 | thats why proposing for design session | 17:02 |
winston-d | DuncanT: +1 | 17:02 |
vilobhmm1 | to get more inputs in quota areas | 17:02 |
vilobhmm1 | as we get bitten by quota related problems every now n then | 17:03 |
vilobhmm1 | and our exsiting quota driver is kinda broken | 17:03 |
thingee | also deprecated one for sometime still exists | 17:03 |
thingee | kind of difficult to remove though | 17:03 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: Until there's cross-project contentious on the high level behaviour, we should implement anything | 17:03 |
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vilobhmm1 | so i feel should be a good session to talk and get inputs and make a better quota driver | 17:03 |
scottda | hemna: thx | 17:03 |
vilobhmm1 | i think nova has already procedded with changes as CERN people mentioned to me | 17:04 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: I've some thoughts on making reservations richer to make debugging easier | 17:04 |
vilobhmm1 | so there is some agreement | 17:04 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: Can we get links to that in the etherpad, please? | 17:04 |
vilobhmm1 | sure DuncanT : i think like such valueable feedback can be received in design session that fish bowl | 17:04 |
vilobhmm1 | sure…let me find them | 17:04 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: If there's agreement to the high level behaviour already, great | 17:05 |
vilobhmm1 | yes there is one | 17:05 |
dulek | Just the current status - we have one place for fish bowl and we have 2 topics too much for working sessions | 17:05 |
winston-d | vilobhmm1: improving existing quota driver (hierarchy 1) and implmenting nested quota driver can be two separate tasks. | 17:05 |
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vilobhmm1 | winston-d : agree but we have to start somewhere | 17:06 |
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vilobhmm1 | :) | 17:06 |
vilobhmm1 | and i wish this can be that | 17:06 |
thingee | marked as potential fishbowl | 17:06 |
thingee | everything does through scheduler | 17:06 |
thingee | winston-d: hi | 17:07 |
winston-d | hi | 17:07 |
DuncanT | winston-d: I put a question on this on the etherpad.... what is the win? | 17:07 |
thingee | first off agree this should not be in the fish bowl | 17:07 |
winston-d | this is basically revisit of the same topic that i discussed in Paris, with more use cases | 17:07 |
thingee | winston-d: :) | 17:07 |
winston-d | DuncanT: reserved_percentage has no affect of vol clones? being one | 17:08 |
DuncanT | winston-d: we can't clone across backends though, right? | 17:08 |
DuncanT | winston-d: So you can just put the clone in error in the manager, no scheduler change required | 17:09 |
winston-d | DuncanT: right, the point of having it go through scheduler is not about letting scheduler to make alternative decision | 17:09 |
DuncanT | What is the point then? | 17:10 |
winston-d | it is about scheduler, who has the knwoledge of backend (is full, can't create more vols, etc) is able to stop those requests. | 17:10 |
DuncanT | The backend has all that info though, and is more up-to-date than the scheduler | 17:10 |
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DuncanT | Where the request stops, unless it is in the API, really makes no difference | 17:11 |
winston-d | DuncanT: correct, but at least for reserved_percentage, most drivers don't even do such check | 17:11 |
DuncanT | Drivers shouldn't need to, manager should do it | 17:11 |
thingee | DuncanT: +1 | 17:11 |
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winston-d | DuncanT: why? for now, reserved_percentage is simplied ignored | 17:11 |
winston-d | for all drivers | 17:12 |
DuncanT | winston-d: ignoring it might be a bug, but then I thought it was there exactly to give room for extend, clone, snap, etc? | 17:12 |
DuncanT | If you reserve it from ever being used for anything, it is a bit pointless... | 17:12 |
scottda | winston-d, DuncanT: what about I/O requests going through the scheduler so that volumes are not tied to a single cinder-volume node? | 17:13 |
DuncanT | scottda: rabbit can and does already do round-robin type stuff for that | 17:13 |
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winston-d | DuncanT: not really, we have use cases where we would like to reserve (say 15%) capacity to makre sure backend is running OK | 17:13 |
DuncanT | winston-d: so get the driver to lie about available capacity | 17:14 |
DuncanT | Same effect | 17:14 |
winston-d | deployer should implement their own in-house driver, you are saying? | 17:14 |
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DuncanT | No, the driver author should know if an array can't actually handle the capacity it says it is | 17:15 |
winston-d | btw, by vol clone, I mean create vol from source vol | 17:15 |
tbarron | winston-d: DuncanT: was just looking at reserved capacity as the complement of nfs_used_ratio | 17:16 |
DuncanT | Yes, that clone has to go on the same backend, right? | 17:16 |
DuncanT | tbarron: I'm not familiar with that... | 17:16 |
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tbarron | assumption in code seems to be that instead of lying about capacity or free, report reserved and scheduler will adjust | 17:16 |
DuncanT | Right, well the c-vol manager code can adjust too | 17:16 |
winston-d | DuncanT: right, but the clone (new vol)'s capacity isn't from reserved, it is part of used_capcacity | 17:17 |
tbarron | DuncanT: sure, should be in the manager on the way up | 17:17 |
vilobhmm1 | +1..also quota and scheduling decisions are tied | 17:17 |
vilobhmm1 | DuncanT : +1 | 17:17 |
thingee | winston-d: ok marking for potential in working sessions | 17:17 |
winston-d | DuncanT: for snapshot, some drivers may not include that into used_cap, some may, not sure. | 17:17 |
DuncanT | winston-d: So make c-vol manager reject stuff that won't fit inside reserved.... we need to do that anyway since the scheduler's view might be out of date | 17:17 |
thingee | async error reporting to the end user | 17:18 |
thingee | ameade: hi | 17:18 |
ameade | hey | 17:18 |
thingee | so there is an agreement that we should probably start with a cross project | 17:18 |
DuncanT | thingee: ++ | 17:18 |
vilobhmm1 | thingee : +1 | 17:19 |
ameade | my concern with that is it will end up being a lot more broad discussion, i rather go bottom up and then propose what we decide on the the ML | 17:19 |
ameade | that's my gut feeling anyway | 17:19 |
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thingee | ameade: have you reached out to this list to see if anyone else is looking at this from other projects? | 17:19 |
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thingee | I fear like rolling upgrades there being a dozen individual sessions for each project | 17:20 |
ameade | yeah fair, I know other projects are interested but not enough to drive it to completion | 17:20 |
dulek | thingee: Most projects haven't adopted versionedobjects yet. | 17:20 |
ameade | What i can do is the POC code in cinder but have it as a cross-project session | 17:20 |
dulek | thingee: So their sessions would probably be based on that. | 17:20 |
dulek | thingee: Cinder's one can go further. | 17:21 |
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DuncanT | ameade: PoC is fine as long as we don't merge it without some agreement | 17:21 |
ameade | DuncanT: yeah absolutely | 17:21 |
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ameade | I definitely want a solution that will work all across openstack | 17:22 |
ameade | i'll be focused on this for the next few weeks | 17:22 |
ameade | thingee: should I fill out the cross-project session form? | 17:23 |
thingee | ameade: please | 17:23 |
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ameade | sounds good | 17:24 |
thingee | doesn't look like vincent hou is here to discuss volume migration | 17:24 |
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thingee | jungleboyj: hi | 17:25 |
thingee | I don't think there is much to discuss since we already have this laid out https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/volume-migration-improvement | 17:25 |
thingee | might just make sense to get an update in the sprints from vincent and jungleboyj | 17:26 |
thingee | OK, well I updated that item in the etherpad | 17:27 |
thingee | tbarron: hi | 17:27 |
tbarron | hi | 17:27 |
thingee | scaling backup services | 17:27 |
thingee | DuncanT: ^ | 17:27 |
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tbarron | I don't have a particular design proposal | 17:27 |
thingee | :) | 17:27 |
tbarron | wanted to flush out known problem areas | 17:27 |
tbarron | find who is interested in the area | 17:27 |
tbarron | So this can be moved as appropriate. | 17:28 |
DuncanT | We tried multi-threading, it is really damn hard to get right | 17:28 |
tbarron | DuncanT: right | 17:28 |
DuncanT | With ssl and compression, the process is verymuch CPU bound | 17:28 |
tbarron | Also e0ne knows of some potential threading issues | 17:28 |
DuncanT | In theory it is very trivial to parallelise | 17:28 |
tbarron | with NFS we potentially increase chunk size a lot | 17:28 |
DuncanT | In python, not so much | 17:28 |
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tbarron | and there is the whole issue of having to run on a single node today | 17:28 |
tbarron | there may be other areas | 17:29 |
vilobhmm1 | tbarron : anything locking, threading, concurrency related stuff please count me in | 17:29 |
tbarron | so in some forum or another it would be good to find out about best practices and known problem areas | 17:29 |
DuncanT | Fixing up (removing) the coupling between v-col and c-backup should definitely happen | 17:29 |
e0ne | DuncanT: +1 | 17:29 |
tbarron | And the summit seemed a good place to flush this stuff out. | 17:29 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: I'd love to hear your thoughts | 17:29 |
tbarron | that's all I have :-) | 17:30 |
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vilobhmm1 | DuncanT : it would be nice that tbarron adds his findings here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-active-active-vol-service-issues | 17:30 |
vilobhmm1 | i am sure the underlying problem is the same | 17:30 |
vilobhmm1 | that we plan to discuss for the rest | 17:31 |
vilobhmm1 | tbarron : ^^ | 17:31 |
tbarron | vilobhmm1: I can, but DuncanT and e0ne know stuff I don't know enough to add | 17:31 |
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DuncanT | vilobhmm1: backup in parallel is a totally different problem | 17:31 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: There is very little overlap | 17:31 |
thingee | tbarron: I would like there to be some plan on discussion and something to work off of if we keep this in working sessions | 17:31 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: Probably better to start a new etherpad for backup issues | 17:31 |
tbarron | thingee: agreed. I can make an etherpad with a strawman agenda if that would be helpful | 17:32 |
vilobhmm1 | DuncanT : ok…sure..let me go through code | 17:32 |
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DuncanT | thingee: I can work with tbarron to get some sort of plan | 17:32 |
vilobhmm1 | again | 17:32 |
tbarron | thingee: or if you think this topic should be in a difft forum ... | 17:32 |
tbarron | DuncanT: +1 | 17:32 |
DuncanT | tbarron: I think it is well worth talking out in person | 17:32 |
thingee | volume replication v2 | 17:32 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: You'll be at the summit, right? | 17:33 |
thingee | jungleboyj, jgriffith hi | 17:33 |
vilobhmm1 | DuncanT : yes | 17:33 |
thingee | I think everyone agrees this should be part of the working sessions | 17:33 |
vilobhmm1 | I will be.. | 17:33 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: Great | 17:33 |
vilobhmm1 | thingee : +1 looks good to me | 17:33 |
thingee | there's already a spec to go with it as well | 17:33 |
dannywilson | I wonder if replication should be fishbowl? Do we know how users want replication done? | 17:33 |
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dannywilson | do users want replication done with CG or not? | 17:34 |
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thingee | dannywilson: I don't think that's out of the question for CG. But I don't think we're quite there with what we already have. Not sure if you read the spec, but this aims to simplify how replication works today for drivers so others can actually implement the feature | 17:35 |
thingee | we're not quite there* | 17:36 |
dannywilson | I have but if we are doing the work anyway we should make sure users are actually going to use it? | 17:36 |
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dannywilson | or just get a simple one done and then go to users from there is what you are saying? | 17:36 |
thingee | dannywilson: if it has api implact sure, user endpoint would be good. if not, end users don't need to know how this feature works under the hood. | 17:37 |
thingee | we've already discussed that in Juno summit | 17:37 |
dannywilson | gotcha, okay | 17:37 |
thingee | user's input* | 17:37 |
thingee | can't type today =/ | 17:37 |
dannywilson | thanks, I am good with working session | 17:38 |
thingee | dannywilson: ah it does have api impact of introducing new endpoints | 17:38 |
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DuncanT | One big thing to come out of the last attempt at replication is that backends have weird limitatations on what they can implement | 17:39 |
thingee | replication-enable, replication, disable, replication-failover | 17:39 |
DuncanT | So 'what users want' is somewhat of a moot point - start with 'what is technically possible' | 17:39 |
thingee | DuncanT: true | 17:39 |
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DuncanT | Netapp seems to have a distinct set of limitations that others didn't | 17:40 |
dannywilson | DuncanT: that makes sense | 17:40 |
thingee | DuncanT: I agree. I think users maybe frustrated with attending if all we did was argue about our backend limitations :) | 17:40 |
thingee | ok seems fine to keep then | 17:41 |
thingee | rolling upgrades | 17:41 |
thingee | thangp: hi | 17:41 |
thangp | hi | 17:41 |
thangp | so i wanted to discuss how to proceed with rolling upgrades | 17:41 |
openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: Fix unit tests spam output https://review.openstack.org/178783 | 17:41 |
thingee | so this topic, to be clear should be looking back on you did with schema upgrades and how we should proceed with rpc compatibility as the last step | 17:42 |
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thangp | correct | 17:42 |
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thingee | in the look back, we should have a list of what's left to be turned into objects | 17:42 |
thingee | I think a lot of these are already in review now | 17:42 |
thangp | i got volumes converted and tempest pass for it...should have it done before summit | 17:43 |
thangp | just got to update the unit tests | 17:43 |
DuncanT | We have zero examples of how to do compatibility work-arounds in the object layer currently (i.e. new/removed fields) | 17:43 |
dulek | thangp: Wasn't DuncanT interested in working on volume's object? | 17:43 |
DuncanT | dulek: No, just in reviewing it | 17:43 |
thangp | dulek: not sure, but i probably left holes to be filled :) | 17:44 |
DuncanT | dulek: If you wait for me to code, you'll be waiting a long while at the moment :-( | 17:44 |
thingee | thangp: can you start an etherpad of what's left? | 17:44 |
thangp | so for rolling upgrades, i like to see what we do after the conversion is done | 17:44 |
thingee | and for the rpc compatibility work | 17:44 |
thangp | thingee: there is an etherpad, let me check... | 17:44 |
thingee | thangp: oh whoops. Can you add it to the session item here? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-proposed-sessions | 17:45 |
thangp | thingee: ok, will do...once i find it | 17:45 |
thangp | anyways, objects is only one part of rolling upgrades...there is also the rpc compat layer | 17:46 |
thangp | that, i was hoping you(thingee) could help explain | 17:46 |
thingee | thangp: so nova is already doing this with their conductor. | 17:47 |
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* DuncanT tried to understand the nova RPC compat code and failed entirely | 17:47 | |
thangp | but we dont have a conductor :( | 17:47 |
thangp | are we planning one? | 17:47 |
vilobhmm1 | thangp : true | 17:48 |
thingee | I think we talked about sending over serialized objects? | 17:48 |
thangp | thingee: yes, and it does today for snapshots | 17:48 |
thangp | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Cinder_Objects | 17:48 |
thangp | i have to fill in more details into that etherpad | 17:48 |
thangp | of what is left to do | 17:48 |
thingee | DuncanT had some thoughts on this :) | 17:49 |
thangp | cool | 17:49 |
thingee | DuncanT: or not? | 17:49 |
thangp | is that rpc version capping? | 17:49 |
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DuncanT | Version capping is different to object version translation... both are needed | 17:50 |
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vilobhmm1 | thingee, thangp, DuncanT : if we are done with the objects discussion | 17:51 |
vilobhmm1 | thingee, DuncanT : nested quota spec is already accepted in nova…https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129420/ so I guess the nested quota proposal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173141/ has a cross-project backing…does it seem good to you for a design session ? | 17:51 |
thangp | so for objects, we can transform a object of a certain version to a desired one | 17:51 |
DuncanT | vilobhmm1: Seems reasonable, I'll need a bit of time to read. Can you add both links to the session etherpad, please? | 17:51 |
thingee | vilobhmm1: it being accepted in nova isn't exactly a cross project agreement | 17:51 |
thingee | that's an agreement in nova | 17:51 |
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vilobhmm1 | sure DuncanT…thingee: ok | 17:52 |
DuncanT | thangp: are there any examples of that, even artificial ones? | 17:52 |
thangp | yes, somewhere in nova, let me look | 17:52 |
DuncanT | Nova does it via conductor | 17:52 |
DuncanT | We should code up an example for cinder | 17:53 |
thangp | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L304 | 17:53 |
DuncanT | It would be nice if liberty never made a none-rolling friendly change, but that might slow down progress | 17:53 |
thangp | DuncanT: I had thought it was done in obj_make_compatible | 17:53 |
thangp | but I can ask dansmith | 17:53 |
DuncanT | thangp: I think that gets called in conductor context in nova | 17:54 |
* dansmith reads | 17:54 | |
thangp | DuncanT: ah ok | 17:54 |
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DuncanT | thangp: A worked example in the cinder code would help clear things up, I think | 17:54 |
thangp | DuncanT: ok, I can look into it | 17:54 |
DuncanT | Back shortly, it is 9 pm and I need coffee | 17:55 |
thangp | dansmith: we are wondering how to convert objects from one version to another in versionedobjects | 17:55 |
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thangp | DuncanT says it's done in the conductor layer | 17:55 |
dansmith | thangp: yeah, so we send whatever version we want to the destination, | 17:55 |
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dansmith | and if the destination is too old to handle it, it bounces the object to conductor, which does the backleveling | 17:55 |
vilobhmm1 | *bb in 1 hour need to attend a meeting* | 17:56 |
dansmith | that way, we can have two new computes talk to each other without needing to be pinned, | 17:56 |
thangp | but since we dont have a conductor, what's the best way to do it, or do we have to implement a conductor | 17:56 |
dansmith | and computes don't have to know whether other computes are old or not (which doesn't always work, but it's how we do it) | 17:56 |
dansmith | thangp: so if you don't want to do that, | 17:56 |
dansmith | you just have a set of object pinsm | 17:56 |
dansmith | and have your code check the pin and obj_make_compatible() the object to the pin version before sending it | 17:57 |
dulek | Heat guys are already planning to do that this way. | 17:57 |
dansmith | correck | 17:57 |
dansmith | er, correct :) | 17:57 |
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thangp | dulek: do you have a sample? | 17:57 |
dulek | I'll see if I can find a spec for that. | 17:57 |
thangp | dulek: cool, thx | 17:57 |
dansmith | nova may end up doing that as well for certain cases | 17:57 |
thangp | thingee: so for rolling upgrades, we can have versionedobjects and object pins (instead of conductor)... | 17:58 |
thangp | thingee: still needs to be tested | 17:59 |
thingee | DuncanT: think that's what you've been discussing already ^ | 17:59 |
dulek | thangp: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176654/1/specs/liberty/indirection-api.rst | 18:00 |
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dulek | thangp: But I don't think this is really helpful one. | 18:00 |
thangp | dulek: ok, i'll take a look | 18:00 |
dulek | thangp: My colleague is working on that, I'll ask him tommorow about progress and the ideas. | 18:00 |
thangp | dulek: great, thx | 18:01 |
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dulek | Hm, so had we agreed if upgrades will make a working session? | 18:02 |
thingee | thangp: I thought duncan was already looking into version pinning c-vol nodes | 18:02 |
dulek | For me it certainly should. | 18:02 |
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thingee | thangp: so seems to align with what has been discussed, unless I'm missing something | 18:02 |
thingee | thangp: is there anything else you need from me on this topic? | 18:03 |
thingee | adurbin_: rhedlind around? | 18:03 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Huber proposed openstack/cinder: Add cinder volume driver for Blockbridge EPS. https://review.openstack.org/178295 | 18:03 |
rhedlind | yes | 18:03 |
thangp | thingee: i good with it | 18:03 |
adurbin_ | hi | 18:03 |
thangp | thingee: thx | 18:03 |
thingee | your topic for collect and display backend status | 18:03 |
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rhedlind | yes, adurbin is working on it. we hope to have some sort of POC at the summit | 18:05 |
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rhedlind | it would be nice to get user feedback to know what kind of stats are most useful to users | 18:05 |
thingee | adurbin_: can you please move the spec to the liberty directory? | 18:06 |
adurbin_ | we're looking at adding the ability for cinder to periodically query cinder volume drivers for performance and health stats | 18:06 |
thingee | rhedlind: it would be good to list the use case for exposing this information in the spec | 18:06 |
adurbin_ | yes | 18:06 |
adurbin_ | thingee: yes | 18:06 |
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rhedlind | thingee: ok, we'll come up with use cases | 18:07 |
thingee | rhedlind: think we'll need to understand that more before we can decide on making this a summit session. So I'll wait around for that and bug people for some feedback | 18:08 |
thingee | thangp: just to make sure I understand, we're doing pinning for rpc compat? | 18:08 |
adurbin_ | initial use case is for horizon to display the last known performance values | 18:08 |
thingee | thangp: or just object versioning? | 18:08 |
thingee | adurbin_: I'm assuming this is admin viewable only? | 18:09 |
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adurbin_ | thingee: yes | 18:10 |
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thingee | adurbin_: its been my experience that most vendors have some proprietary dashboard that's already good at giving stats | 18:11 |
thingee | I can see the case of wanting everything in horizon. just not sure if it's worth the effort though | 18:11 |
thingee | the Iops thing will be interesting. As you may or may not know, this is a controversial topic here, since everyone thinks of IOPS differently | 18:12 |
smcginnis | vilobhmm1: Hey! Did you see my comment here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177502/ | 18:12 |
smcginnis | vilobhmm1: Let me know if I'm missing something. | 18:12 |
adurbin_ | thingee: ah, I was unaware of the controversial-ness | 18:13 |
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rhedlind | thingee: so how would you like us to move forward? we'll add more details to the spec as feedback comes back. Wait until next week for a decision on this being a summit session or not? | 18:14 |
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* thangp scrolling back to read | 18:15 | |
nikeshm | thingee: hi good morning,could u please approve and target this bp for kilo https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/hp-msa-fc-iscsi-cinder-driver | 18:16 |
thangp | thingee: both, versionobjects and object pins | 18:16 |
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nikeshm | reached in sanjose,california | 18:16 |
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winston-d | nikeshm: you mean liberty? :) | 18:17 |
thingee | rhedlind: might require a change in direction. For example, using the stats that is already being reported by drivers http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/drivers.html#volume-stats ... I fear that this topic will get hijacked by vendors arguing about what some of these terms mean to them. | 18:18 |
jdandrea | annegentle: Is this where you were looking for secure_delete earlier? Wondering if it should be kept or just dropped entirely by now. http://paste.openstack.org/show/212504/ | 18:18 |
thingee | nikeshm: not sure if my outstanding questions were answered in the review? | 18:19 |
annegentle | jdandrea: actually it was here docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/lib/cinder.html | 18:19 |
annegentle | jdandrea: by doing a google search with secure_delete site:docs.openstack.org | 18:19 |
thingee | nikeshm: CI, who is running that? who is maintaining the driver. is using HP fine in the name if they're not maintaining it. I'm just a little confused atm | 18:19 |
jdandrea | annegentle: Ahh, I didn't catch that. That's why I didn't see it. I was searching devstack. :) | 18:19 |
thingee | kmartin_, hemna ^ | 18:19 |
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annegentle | jdandrea: yeah you want https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=secure_delete | 18:20 |
jdandrea | annegentle: Also, the formatting of that page is ... odd. | 18:20 |
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thingee | rhedlind adurbin_ let me read the spec more closely though | 18:20 |
thingee | I saw iops and just started having fears :) | 18:20 |
thingee | would like this to be successful and no one to get frustrated :) | 18:21 |
rhedlind | rhedlind: ok, :) the spec proposes adding some values to volume stats. | 18:21 |
annegentle | jdandrea: it was once beautiful, but I can recall how it's built | 18:21 |
jdandrea | annegentle: *nodnod* | 18:21 |
rhedlind | I am apparently talking to myself. :) | 18:21 |
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rhedlind | thingee: I know DuncanT had some thoughts on this topic at the last meetup. Hopefully we'll get some feedback from him once he have some coffee. | 18:23 |
thingee | rhedlind: I feel like that all the time | 18:23 |
DuncanT | Sorry, which topic? | 18:24 |
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DuncanT | Volume stats? | 18:24 |
rhedlind | DuncanT: you're back. collecting more stats from the backend storage to give the admin a better picture of the current state. | 18:24 |
kmartin_ | thingee, what did you want me to look at? | 18:24 |
DuncanT | As I've (just) commented on the spec, I think the hypervisor is the right place to collect some of this | 18:25 |
DuncanT | rhedlind: I'd suggest splitting the spec in two, and doing health status separate to stats since it is likely to be easier to agree on | 18:25 |
rhedlind | DuncanT: ok | 18:25 |
thingee | kmartin_: look at my message at 11:19 | 18:25 |
thingee | reply to nikeshm | 18:25 |
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DuncanT | rhedlind: A basic status of good/warning/bad plus a free-text field seems pretty universal | 18:26 |
DuncanT | rhedlind: The default can be to assume all good unless the driver says otherwise | 18:26 |
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DuncanT | rhedlind: Stats are a bit more contentious. Depending on the design of your backend, collecting them at the backend can be hard. Nova already has a periodic task to emit the stats of any active volume(s) as events, I'd like to hear what is wrong with that aproach before we do something new | 18:28 |
thingee | thangp: ok so we still need to figure out rpc compat? | 18:28 |
thingee | thangp: confused :) | 18:28 |
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rhedlind | DuncanT: Yes, I think we left out default behavior. Should add proposed default behavior to the spec. | 18:28 |
thangp | thingee: so we will have some kind of object version pinning | 18:29 |
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thingee | I get that. but how does that solve messaging? | 18:29 |
thangp | thingee: we will look up what object version to send over, convert it, and then send over the serialized object | 18:29 |
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thangp | thingee: not sure if it does | 18:29 |
DuncanT | It doesn't, though the pin management is identical | 18:30 |
thingee | thangp: I don't think it does. What if the message contains field changes other than the message? | 18:30 |
thingee | other than the object* | 18:30 |
kmartin_ | thingee, what driver are they talking about the 3PAR, Lefthand, MSA? | 18:30 |
adurbin_ | DuncanT: latency at the compute level and storage array could be different | 18:30 |
thangp | thingee: does oslo_messaging support something for it? | 18:30 |
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DuncanT | adurbin_: But is it different enough to be useful? In particular, who cares what it is at the array level since the VM level is what actually affects what tennants see | 18:31 |
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hemna | jungleboyj, I don't know. there used to be a guy in there, but I think they bailed | 18:31 |
DuncanT | thangp: I'm told it does, I haven't found it | 18:31 |
thangp | DuncanT: :P | 18:31 |
thangp | DuncanT: who maintains oslo_messaging? | 18:32 |
DuncanT | thangp: I'm love to hear somebody else was working on it ;-) | 18:32 |
DuncanT | thangp: Dunno, sorry | 18:32 |
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nikeshm | thingee: sorry this bp is for liberty | 18:32 |
jungleboyj | kmartin_: Do you know who the contact for Cisco Zone Manger is? | 18:33 |
DuncanT | thangp: I've got a good breakdown of how to go about implementing RPC versioning (including testing etc) | 18:33 |
thingee | nikeshm: I know | 18:33 |
thangp | DuncanT: nice, can you help moderate that topic in the working session? | 18:33 |
thingee | nikeshm: that's not what my question was though | 18:33 |
DuncanT | thangp: But I ran into an early roadblock with the basic code and never dug into it | 18:33 |
DuncanT | thangp: Yes, definitely | 18:33 |
thangp | oh... | 18:33 |
thangp | DuncanT: do you have it on gerrit? | 18:33 |
DuncanT | thangp: I'll brain-dump onto an etherpad before hand too | 18:33 |
thangp | ok | 18:33 |
thingee | DuncanT, thangp can this happen before the working session? so there is something to go off of? | 18:34 |
DuncanT | thangp: HP etherpad at the moment, I'll copy it over to a public one the minute I find my keyring for the VPN | 18:34 |
DuncanT | thingee: Definitely | 18:34 |
thangp | thingee: I can got the object pinning part | 18:34 |
kmartin_ | thingee, regarding BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/hp-msa-fc-iscsi-cinder-driver this is a company by the named of Dot Hill, they will be CI'ing the driver | 18:34 |
adurbin_ | DuncanT: we can split the spec into perf and health and spend more time on performance | 18:34 |
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thingee | thangp: please working with DuncanT on the rpc stuff so we can have something to go off of at the working session. I don't want DuncanT's brain dump to be happening at the working session | 18:35 |
thangp | thingee: ok :) | 18:35 |
thingee | brb | 18:35 |
DuncanT | thangp: Please feel free to unsubtly harass me, I don't get offended and I'm really easily distracted | 18:36 |
thangp | DuncanT: sure | 18:36 |
DuncanT | adurbin_: That sounds like a good way to make faster progress | 18:36 |
thangp | i will get my part in order before i do | 18:36 |
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DuncanT | thangp: :-) | 18:36 |
thangp | maybe by next week i get something for it | 18:36 |
kmartin_ | jungleboyj, looking I'll PM you the emails addresses | 18:36 |
jungleboyj | kmartin_: You the man. Thanks! | 18:37 |
adurbin_ | thingee: i'm interested to hear your thoughts on the 'fears' about iops | 18:38 |
jdandrea | Clue, please. Where is the repository that contains this? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/lib/cinder.html | 18:41 |
thingee | adurbin_: sure some backends don't even expose that. iops for some are bronze/silver/gold. others it's a on/off. and then some have actual iops numbers | 18:41 |
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nikeshm | thingee: dothill is responsible for drivers and CI | 18:41 |
jdandrea | Grabbed https://git.openstack.org/openstack-dev/devstack but it isn't in there. | 18:42 |
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thingee | kmartin_: is the HP in the name still fine? | 18:42 |
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kmartin_ | thingee, That's OK as long as dothill is listed as the maintainer and CI owner | 18:44 |
thingee | kmartin_: thanks | 18:44 |
kmartin_ | nikeshm, you're from dothill correct? | 18:45 |
thingee | nikeshm: ok done | 18:45 |
thingee | we'll require to see the CI working up front before merge. see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/tested-3rdParty-drivers#How_do_I_run_my_CI_to_test_all_cinder_patches_with_my_driver_not_yet_merged.3F | 18:46 |
thingee | nikeshm: ^ | 18:46 |
thingee | nikeshm: also review https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/how-to-contribute-a-driver | 18:46 |
thingee | nikeshm: thank you! | 18:47 |
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jungleboyj | thingee: Thanks for accepting the Replication V2 session. | 18:50 |
jungleboyj | Don't see a comment on Volume Migration. | 18:50 |
jdandrea | Ah, found it. | 18:50 |
jungleboyj | Thoughts there? | 18:50 |
jungleboyj | Oh, looks like sprints now that I look closer. | 18:51 |
jungleboyj | That should be ok. Think we should discuss it in some way. | 18:51 |
jungleboyj | Thanks for listening all while I talked to myself. ;-) | 18:52 |
e0ne | jungleboyj: you're welcome! | 18:52 |
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nikeshm | thingee: thanks,sure, | 18:56 |
nikeshm | kmartin_: i am from vedams,working for dothill for hp drivers | 18:57 |
nikeshm | hpmsa | 18:57 |
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kmartin_ | nikeshm, ok cool...did you have a review posted for driver or just the BP? | 18:59 |
nikeshm | now just BP,sooner will have review | 18:59 |
nikeshm | patch | 18:59 |
thingee | alright bbl | 19:00 |
kmartin_ | nikeshm, looking forward to it? thanks | 19:00 |
nikeshm | winston-d : liberty right :) | 19:00 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/178410 | 19:15 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/155579 | 19:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Diem Tran proposed openstack/cinder: Re-integrate Oracle iSCSI Cinder driver https://review.openstack.org/178319 | 19:56 |
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thingee | jgriffith: not sure if you saw this, but should take care of the warnings from cinderclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178439/ | 20:49 |
thingee | jgriffith: would like to do a release soon :) | 20:49 |
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jgriffith | thingee: awesome | 20:50 |
jgriffith | +2/A :) | 20:50 |
thingee | yay ninja! | 20:51 |
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* jgriffith just wants that to go away :) | 20:51 | |
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thingee | jgriffith: other problems http://logs.openstack.org/60/177760/1/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/fd8bb99//logs/screen-c-api.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2015-04-28_19_58_02_882 | 21:15 |
thingee | jgriffith: mtreinish tested for it being related to osprofiler, but no luck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178445/ | 21:16 |
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mtreinish | it did make the unit tests much cleaner though | 21:18 |
thingee | :) | 21:18 |
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thingee | hemna: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1449980 | 21:37 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1449980 in Cinder "Attaching the same multiattach volume to the same instance twice leaves the volume in 'Attaching' state" [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:37 |
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hemna | thingee, thanks I'll take a look | 21:38 |
thingee | hemna: also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178578/ | 21:38 |
jgriffith | thingee: what am I looking at? | 21:39 |
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thingee | jgriffith: your monitor? | 21:39 |
jgriffith | thingee: holy crap! | 21:39 |
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* thingee takes a screenshot | 21:39 | |
hemna | :) | 21:39 |
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jgriffith | thingee: wait... so what bug is this? | 21:40 |
thingee | uhh mtreinish is there one? | 21:40 |
thingee | for the token not found in header w/ cinder | 21:40 |
mtreinish | thingee: I never bothered to file a bug for it | 21:41 |
thingee | :) | 21:41 |
* thingee makes one | 21:41 | |
jgriffith | mtreinish: how long has that been around? | 21:41 |
mtreinish | jgriffith: about a week | 21:42 |
mtreinish | at least according to logstash | 21:42 |
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mtreinish | which has >3.3M hits for that warning :) | 21:42 |
thingee | maaaybe discovery related jgriffith | 21:42 |
thingee | I was talking to jamielennox about it yesterday | 21:42 |
jgriffith | sigh | 21:43 |
thingee | jgriffith: it is the recommended way to do discovery =/ | 21:43 |
jgriffith | perhaps we need a new recommendation :) | 21:44 |
thingee | perhaps we just need to move to the openstack client and having version/tenant in our endpoint | 21:45 |
thingee | away from having* | 21:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/cinder: cinder os-detach api returns 500 https://review.openstack.org/178578 | 21:57 |
jgriffith | thingee: whatever works | 21:57 |
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daneyon | I set iscsi_helper = lioadm in cinder.conf of my cinder-volume node, but I still see cinder using tgt when attaching a vol to an instance: tgt-admin --update iqn.2010-10.org.openstack:volume-91b4da14-3bd7-4b4f-9b9a-7bf6d2872c93 execute | 22:08 |
daneyon | ^ Is this expected behavior? | 22:08 |
jgriffith | daneyon: nope, that's no good | 22:09 |
jgriffith | daneyon: however... | 22:09 |
jgriffith | daneyon: did you install/configure LIO? | 22:09 |
daneyon | i installed targetcli | 22:09 |
daneyon | per: http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/yum/content/cinder-install-storage-node.html | 22:09 |
jgriffith | daneyon: are you using devstack by chance? | 22:09 |
jgriffith | oh | 22:09 |
jgriffith | ok | 22:09 |
jgriffith | daneyon: so RHEL/CentOS I *thought* used LIO by default anyway | 22:10 |
jgriffith | daneyon: so it should be right | 22:10 |
daneyon | nope, openstack-cinder-2014.2.2-1.el7.noarch | 22:10 |
jgriffith | daneyon: oh... confused me with "yum" | 22:10 |
daneyon | CentOS Linux release 7.1.1503 (Core | 22:10 |
jgriffith | yeah... CentOS... I know RHEL uses LIO by default, always thought CentOS would as well | 22:11 |
jgriffith | shows what I know :( | 22:11 |
jgriffith | honestly I've never had much luck getting LIO to work correctly on anyhting other than RHEL | 22:12 |
jgriffith | which just "did it for me" | 22:12 |
daneyon | i'm a core for the kolla project: https://github.com/stackforge/kolla I am trying to containerize cinder and having problems with cinder-volume attaching the vol to an instance | 22:12 |
jgriffith | daneyon: oh, cool | 22:12 |
jgriffith | daneyon: That's become my favorite new stackforge project BTW :) | 22:13 |
jgriffith | Ok... so back to the task at hand | 22:13 |
jgriffith | Honestly I'll have to spin up a system and poke at it | 22:13 |
jgriffith | I don't have good answers for you off the top of my head | 22:13 |
daneyon | jgriffith i have always used tgt, i was just trying to follow the juno docs. is their any issue running tgt with Centos 7? I ran across this that made it seems lioadm is required for centos7: http://bderzhavets.blogspot.com/2014/11/lvmiscsi-cinder-backend-for-rdo-juno-on.html | 22:13 |
openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/cinder: Change MODULEPATH env variable in config generator https://review.openstack.org/178860 | 22:14 |
jgriffith | Like I say, I've had nothing but problems with LIO on anything but RHEL | 22:14 |
jgriffith | daneyon: not that I'm aware of (no issues that is) | 22:14 |
daneyon | jgriffith let we switch back to tgt | 22:14 |
jgriffith | daneyon: let me know if that works | 22:14 |
thingee | jgriffith: last we spoke, you figured out ubuntu/lio | 22:14 |
daneyon | will do | 22:14 |
jgriffith | thingee: ummm... no, not really. I got it "kinda" working | 22:15 |
thingee | ah bummer | 22:15 |
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thingee | daneyon: you will have problems if you use rtslib-fb | 22:15 |
jgriffith | thingee: but it had a shit ton of manual steps; kernel update, missing things, and broken conf usage | 22:15 |
jgriffith | there we go with that whole thing again :( | 22:15 |
thingee | daneyon: it's a mess, but a rhel fork (rtslib-fb) exists and has issues on debian based systems | 22:15 |
daneyon | thingee you are referring to lioadm, correct? | 22:16 |
thingee | jgriffith: again, works fine for me if you just build from source. https://github.com/Thingee/packer-lio/blob/master/scripts/root_setup.sh | 22:16 |
thingee | jgriffith: also if you want to talk about debian based packages, there's a lot of drama with the previous maintainer of the package. | 22:17 |
thingee | jgriffith: would take that discussion offline though | 22:17 |
thingee | but he's no longer part of debian, lets put it that way | 22:17 |
thingee | daneyon: yup | 22:18 |
daneyon | thx | 22:18 |
thingee | daneyon: I work for the company that originally wrote rtslib. | 22:18 |
jgriffith | thingee: got it | 22:18 |
jgriffith | "It worked on thingee 's machine" :) | 22:19 |
jgriffith | The next T-shirt for the summit ;) | 22:19 |
thingee | jgriffith: there's a lot of drama. Really I just want to fork it and call it something else so I don't have to deal with rhel drama of *-fb confusing people | 22:19 |
jgriffith | thingee: yeah, I don't know much about that stuff unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) :) | 22:20 |
thingee | also there is a lot of legacy HBA crap that I don't think needs to exist in the interface. it's a mess | 22:20 |
jgriffith | That's a shame | 22:20 |
thingee | and the switch from everything to be a generator returned instead of lists | 22:20 |
thingee | ugh | 22:20 |
thingee | that's coming in the upcoming version. whether it's rtslib-fb or not | 22:21 |
thingee | upcoming major version | 22:21 |
thingee | to be specific | 22:21 |
daneyon | in my setup i'm using a loopback device for testing. are their any gotchya's or should the loopback work like a regular disk from a cinder-vol config perspective? | 22:21 |
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jgriffith | daneyon: loopback is great for test/dev work | 22:22 |
jgriffith | daneyon: no real gotchas | 22:22 |
jgriffith | daneyon: you'll want to disable secure_delete though | 22:23 |
daneyon | ok, i didn't think so but wanted to double-check. i'm able to create the pv/vg and cinder creates the lv's just fine using it. | 22:24 |
thingee | jgriffith: ha that's two machines it works on | 22:24 |
thingee | yes!! | 22:24 |
daneyon | will do | 22:25 |
vilobhmm1 | smcginnis : updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177502/ | 22:25 |
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thingee | jgriffith: lvm snapshots http://logs.openstack.org/40/164340/4/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/4ef4e88/logs/screen-c-vol.txt.gz?level=TRACE | 22:32 |
thingee | two words | 22:32 |
thingee | more like acronym + word | 22:32 |
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jgriffith | thingee: can you give me any context here? | 22:34 |
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thingee | jgriffith: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1450110 | 22:37 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1450110 in Cinder "boto tests randomly fail in resource_cleanup with "Failed to delete volume"" [High,Confirmed] | 22:37 |
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thingee | jgriffith: lol this thread https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=659762 | 22:57 |
openstack | Debian bug 659762 in lvm2 "lvm2 - Failed snapshot removal produces suspended devices" [Important,Fixed] | 22:57 |
thingee | jgriffith: I know this is snapshot removal, but just run the command twice will fix your problem | 22:57 |
thingee | jgriffith: what a mess | 22:58 |
thingee | jgriffith: also looks like something you previously tried to fix? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1335905 | 23:02 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1335905 in Cinder "Volume group for uuid not found" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to John Griffith (john-griffith) | 23:02 |
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openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add retry to lvm delete https://review.openstack.org/178872 | 23:27 |
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