Monday, 2015-09-21

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wanghaoilackarms: what's the backend you use, LVM?04:05
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DuncanTilackarms2: Check for a running dd process. My guess is that you've got secure delete turned on (the default) which causes volumes to be zeroed out when you delete them05:36
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openstackgerritSean McCully proposed openstack/cinder: Use of ast for integers doesn't changes type  https://review.openstack.org/22555806:53
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wanghaoilackarms2: Agree with DuncanT, there is an option configuration 'volume_clear' you can use it to turn off secure delete, volume_clear=none.07:31
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DuncanTilackarms2: wanghao: Nope that turning off volume_clear means that old volume contents can leak between tenants. You definitely *don't* want that in any production multi-tenant cloud07:35
wanghaoDuncanT: Yes, you're right, volume_clear=none should just be used for test environment if you don't want to wait the clear process.07:38
DuncanTwanghao: Or just use lvm-thin. We're hoping to switch that to default soon.07:39
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wanghaoDuncanT:  that's great, thanks duncan.  I saw the code that we didn't clear volume too if using lvm-thin now.07:44
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Fix way of getting LUN id in Huawei driver  https://review.openstack.org/20974908:25
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openstackgerritSergey Gotliv proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Adding pagination capabilities to snapshots and backups lists  https://review.openstack.org/22558208:45
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openstackgerritchenying proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Fix a snapshots not being deleted by using name  https://review.openstack.org/22306709:51
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e0neDuncanT: hi. are you around? I've got few questions about your comments to 'use-cinder-without-nova' spec10:58
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DuncanTe0ne: Hi11:22
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e0neDuncanT: I've posted question to your comments inline https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224124/1/specs/mikata/use-cinder-without-nova.rst11:30
DuncanTe0ne: We don't need to do anything on the server side to support trusts AFAIK11:31
e0neDuncanT: it would be helpful if you as a user of such feature will comment Pavlo's proposal: Ideally though a simple access to generate-attach should mark the volume as such in Cinder (you never know when user will actually attach the volume, so it is safer that way)11:31
e0neI like this idea and I'm goint to add note about it in the next version of the spec11:31
DuncanTe0ne: We definitely want to make the CLI client calls just attach and detach, and hide any multi-step work, yeah11:32
DuncanTI'd just call it 'attach' rather than 'generate attach' - under this model there are no other possible semantics for attach AFAICT11:33
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e0neDuncanT: Ironic guys asked us at summit about case when they don't want to install any agent/client inside an instance11:40
e0neDuncanT: they want to be able to ask users to run some commands to attach a volume11:41
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DuncanTe0ne: The API call is the same whether you're inside an instance or no: "Here are the connection details of the thing I want to attach, give me back the details I need to attach" - or do you want the client to actually give a list of iSCSI attach commands and such? That is rather distro etc specific, isn't it?11:42
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e0neDuncanT: "do you want the client to actually give a list of iSCSI attach commands and such?". TBH, not me, buy Ironic team asked it. I'm also worried about distro-specific commands11:44
DuncanTI'd skip that on V1, it's a minefield. It is client-side only, so can easily be added later11:44
DuncanTGet the basics working in the first apss11:44
DuncanTs/apss/pass/11:45
e0neDuncanT: I'm agree with you11:45
e0nethanks for feedback11:46
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Attach/detach volumes without Nova (draft)  https://review.openstack.org/22412411:49
e0neDuncanT: I've proposed few choises for new client name in the spec11:50
DuncanTe0ne: As long as it isn't 'cinder' I don't much care, probably easier to let John pick one11:51
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e0neDuncanT: thanks :)11:51
DuncanTcinder-local is probably to most accurate out of those, but as I said, I really don't care11:52
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e0neit's not very important, but I don't want to have remaming import and repository issues11:53
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dulekDuncanT, e0ne: Can I get your opinion on how to approach https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1496747 ?12:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1496747 in Cinder "Removing project access to volume type will not work after 128+ access rule" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Michal Dulko (michal-dulko-f)12:14
DuncanTdulek: Options are: a schema migration to make the deleted column big enough to hold an id, or change the delete to just set deleted=1 like everywhere else in that code, and fix it properly in M12:15
dulekDuncanT, e0ne: I can either just change the only use of oslo.db's soft_delete in our code to plain update or migrate all tables to have deleted column of the same type as id and use soft_delete everywhere.12:15
dulekDuncanT: Ah, we're thinking of fixing that in the RC1?12:16
DuncanTdulek: I'd go with getting rid of the soft_delete for RC1, less code to test12:16
DuncanTdulek: Do the migration in M, it'll be a useful simple case for the live migration code :-)12:17
dulekDuncanT: Okay, I'll do just that.12:17
dulekDuncanT: Live migration or online DB schema migration? ;)12:18
DuncanTdulek: You're right, I should call it online DB schema migration, or schema independence12:18
dulekNaming new things is always the hard. ;)12:19
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ociuhanduthingee: Hello, did you have time by any chance to evaluate the results of the Microsoft iSCSI CI and if there’s anything else we need to do in order to re-enable the CI?13:11
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Use function capsulation in Huawei driver  https://review.openstack.org/22291613:19
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gouthamrDuncanT, e0ne : Thank you for reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222413/ , I updated the code addressing your comments. Would appreciate any more comments you may have.13:54
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DuncanTgouthamr: I'll take another look. I notice many of the third party CIs are failing on that patch, can you check a few and see if they are related, please?13:56
gouthamrsure thing DuncanT13:56
gouthamrthank you.13:56
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DuncanTgouthamr: I'm still confused by the options.py change. If the user has a list of volumes in netapp_volume_list, then you can't just treat that as a regular expression. Ditto a comma separated list in netapp_storage_pools in not a regex. How do you even tell the difference between a legacy list of volumes and a legacy list of pools?14:01
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gouthamrDuncanT: previously users who used to use netapp_volume_list for 7-mode and netapp_storage_pools for e-series could specify names of the pools as CSVs. It is true that we weren't doing regex matches on these names.. we were equating strings in the code and reporting only specified pools to the scheduler.14:05
DuncanTgouthamr: My point is about back-compatability. If a user has a current config file that has one of those two lists specified, then as far as I can tell, the config file will not work - you'll not interpret it as you did before14:07
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gouthamrDuncanT: With the new option, users can still use CSVs.. I'm not sure why we want to tell the difference between the list of pool names and regexes :)14:07
gouthamrDuncanT: ah. we tested this against the legacy options.. the new option works with CSVs as well. We take each value, prefix-suffix with ^$ and match, so one-to-one matches still work14:09
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tbarrongouthamr: DuncanT: yeah, you convert the csv to an equivalent regex under the covers, maintaining backwards compatibility.14:10
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DuncanTgouthamr: Ah, ok, and it does something clever with pool .v. volume names in a list? I guess most people aren't perverse enough to create pools and volumes with the same names?14:10
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gouthamrDuncanT: we are filtering on the same entities as before -> FlexVols on teh backend.. netapp_volume_list was probably a poor name chosen in the implementation prior.14:13
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DuncanTgouthamr: Ok, thanks for clarifying14:13
gouthamrDuncanT: you're welcome...14:13
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gouthamrDuncanT: Thanks for reviewing :)14:13
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guitarzanDuncanT: did I see you say something about quota-show being broken?14:14
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guitarzan(because quota-show seems to be broken)14:14
openstackgerritTom Barron proposed openstack/cinder: NetApp volume/snapshot delete performance fix  https://review.openstack.org/22530614:14
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guitarzanwith this nested quota stuff calling identity14:15
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Replace soft_delete in volume_type_access_remove  https://review.openstack.org/22570114:17
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DuncanTguitarzan: yes, the default rules for keystone break it14:21
guitarzanok, glad it's not just me14:22
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guitarzanI'm a little sad that we crash even if you don't want to use nested quotas14:22
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guitarzanand pretty surprised that we use the key manager config to determine the identity endpoint14:23
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/cinder: Change ignore-errors to ignore_errors  https://review.openstack.org/22572514:25
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erlonDuncanT: tbarron: hi guys, do we have any etherpad or wiki with rc dates for Cinder?14:27
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DuncanTerlon: The RC will be cut when the blocker bugs are gone14:28
DuncanTerlon: https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/liberty-rc114:28
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erlonDuncanT: hmm, so there's no fixed date14:29
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DuncanTguitarzan: Yeah, that's a bug, Ollie is about to put a patch up to default those to None, and pull it out of the catalog by default instead, probably worth stealing part of that to fix. I'm tempted to revert the whole damn thing though, to be honest. I've been trying to do a partial revert but can't get anything to work.14:29
guitarzanDuncanT: are we supposed to be able to run without keystone v3?14:30
guitarzan(please say yes) :)14:30
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guitarzanI'd prefer a much more graceful failure for nested quotas14:30
erlonDuncanT: but all bugs in this list are listed with 'Fix commited', so there's no blocker for RC114:30
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tbarronerlon: I've been assuming RC1 is imminent for that reason ...14:31
erlontbarron: hmm14:31
smcginniserlon: Yeah, I think it's just up to thingee to decide when at this point.14:31
tbarronsmcginnis: DuncanT: so there are no other critical bug reviews that we need to attend to ATM, right?14:32
smcginnistbarron: I'm sure there probably are, just not that have been flagged. ;)14:33
tbarronsmcginnis: :-) I mean, that would hold up RC1 ?14:33
DuncanTtbarron: erlon: Not all of the committed fixes actually fix the bugs :-( e.g. the quota fix doesn't actually fix anything14:33
smcginnisThis would probably be a good point for anyone to speak up if they have something that should hold on.14:33
smcginnisThe nested quota one is probably a good one to wait for. That's kind of a Bad Thing.14:34
DuncanThttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1491495 is not even nested quota, it's any quota14:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1491495 in Cinder "cinderclient.quotas.get() fails against Cinder service in a Devstack" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Ivan Kolodyazhny (e0ne)14:34
smcginnisDuncanT: In that case it's a Real Bad Thing. :)14:35
e0neDuncanT: AFAI, you were going to revert that patch with qoutas14:35
guitarzanright, the nested quotas just introduced the bug14:35
erlonDuncanT: the patch was committed and does not fix or it should be a partial-bug?14:35
guitarzanbreaking all quota shows14:35
guitarzanerlon: the patch doesn't address the issue at all14:35
erlonDuncanT: hmm, ok14:35
DuncanTIf somebody wants to propose a revert for that whole mess, that would be useful, I'm still trying to actually fix the bug, but failing (feel free to try that too, I'm not possessive of anything with less than a 4% ABV)14:36
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guitarzanhah!14:36
DuncanTerlon: The patch committed is a partial fix at best14:36
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/os-brick: Change ignore-errors to ignore_errors  https://review.openstack.org/22578114:41
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Change ignore-errors to ignore_errors  https://review.openstack.org/22580814:44
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e0neDuncanT, erlon: I've just realized, that project_get in Keystone API v2 is admin-only14:54
e0neDuncanT, erlon: but it works for non-admin user for API v314:54
DuncanTe0ne: Thats... unhelpful14:55
DuncanTe0ne: We can't rely on V3 yet, unfortunately14:55
e0neDuncanT: why? AFAIK, it's enabled by default on Liberty14:55
DuncanTe0ne: We could just skip validation if we get back a policy error, which would give you the old behaviour14:56
DuncanTe0ne: It won't be there for upgrade deploys though14:56
e0neDuncanT: understood. you're right14:56
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DuncanTe0ne: I'd be happy with a skip on policy fail for now, and we can look at something better in M. It is better than a revert, though looking in the barbican configuration for the keystone API is still broken14:57
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e0neDuncanT: "skip on policy fail" sounds like an easy hack. I'll try it right now15:10
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Ignore Forbidden error on quotas-get for nested projects  https://review.openstack.org/22589115:16
e0neDuncanT: do you mean something like ^^15:16
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e0neI've tested this on devstack15:16
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DuncanT e0ne Yes15:17
guitarzancan we make it more generic?15:17
guitarzanany fail?15:18
guitarzanI don't want to even have to set the keymanager config option if I don't have to15:18
e0neDuncanT: ok. I'll fix other cases15:18
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DuncanTguitarzan: I want to get rid of that too, just working on a patch to grab it out of the catalog15:18
guitarzanDuncanT: well, for example I don't even have a v3 endpoint15:18
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guitarzangranted, that might be an unreasonable ask, I'm not sure15:19
DuncanTguitarzan: If you have a V2 endpoint in your catalog, then the call will fail at policy by default and skip15:19
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DuncanTguitarzan: Or am I missing something15:20
DuncanTguitarzan: We could skip on all failures I guess15:20
guitarzanhmm, does noauth work with no keystone?15:21
hemnamorning15:21
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e0nehemna: evening:)15:23
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jungleboyjhemna: Morning sir.15:24
hemnae0ne, :)15:27
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DuncanTguitarzan: noauth doesn't work at all at the moment, unless you delete a bunch of code15:45
guitarzanDuncanT: fair enough, I just have a fake auth15:46
DuncanTguitarzan: I need to investigate the 'correct' fix for noauth / fakeauth some time, but deleting every line of code that got in the way made the PoC run :-)15:46
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guitarzan:)15:47
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Ignore Forbidden error on quotas-get for nested projects  https://review.openstack.org/22589115:48
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e0neDuncanT: I fixed quotas-get and qoutas-defautls. W/o unit-tests yet:(15:50
DuncanTe0ne: Great, I'll take a look in a sec, I'm moments away from a draft of the catalog code15:50
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e0neDuncanT: thanks. I'll try to write few tests for it15:51
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DuncanThttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/32fT5i5c/15:52
DuncanTI'm clearly doing something stupid, but I don't know what15:53
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DuncanThttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/EMh4NjC5/patch15:53
DuncanTThe second paste is the (untested) patch that I think should pull the info out of the catalog. Exception class needs creating tpp15:54
DuncanTs/tpp/too/15:54
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DuncanTWe have this catalog grabbing code in four places now, really should make a helper util for it15:55
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DuncanTSorry, I've got to run for an hour, if somebody wants to try to beat that code into some form of correctness, feel free, if not I'll work on it later this evening16:02
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hodosthingee: hi, do we have to resubmit new blueprints for M release for re-adding of Nexenta Drivers, cause we missed L due to CI instability16:07
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/cinder: Fix use of wrong storage pools for NetApp Drivers  https://review.openstack.org/22241316:12
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Ignore Forbidden error on quotas-get for nested projects  https://review.openstack.org/22589116:21
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thingeesmcginnis, erlon waiting for the release team at this point. My request is in for a cut16:54
thingeehodos: the next PTL will retarget the blueprint for M release16:55
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openstackgerritSean McCully proposed openstack/cinder: Use of ast for integers doesn't changes type  https://review.openstack.org/22594717:19
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ociuhanduthingee: Hello, did you have time by any chance to evaluate the results of the Microsoft iSCSI CI and if there’s anything else we need to do in order to re-enable the CI?17:35
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jungleboyjHas anyone been seeing this unit test fail:  cinder.tests.unit.test_cmd.TestCinderAllCmd.test_main_load_binary_exception17:40
dhellmannthingee: can you confirm that os-brick 0.4.0 is what you want for your stable/liberty branch?17:42
thingeedhellmann: ack, give me 10 minutes before I can look17:43
dhellmannthingee: np17:43
jungleboyjA fresh pull of master on ubuntu 14.04 fails that test case.17:43
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hodosthingee: thanks17:45
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smcginnisjungleboyj: I haven't seen that. (yet)17:50
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smcginnisdhellmann, thingee: I believe there were changes in os-brick 0.4.0 that we need. That is the latest release.17:50
jungleboyjI am thinking I have having issues because I ran devstack on here.  Playing around with it.17:51
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Thanks.17:51
smcginnisjungleboyj: Running on master locally (ubuntu 14.04.3). I'll let you know how it goes.17:52
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hemnadhellmann, thingee I think there are a few items that have gone into brick since 0.4.017:54
hemnawe might want to push a 0.4.117:54
hemnaeharney, or smcginnis can either of you +A this one?  I don't want to ninja it, even though it has 2 +2's on it already.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219779/17:55
eharneyhemna: sure17:56
hemnahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/222998/17:56
hemnais another one17:56
thingeehemna: ack17:56
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hemnathingee, they are small fixes17:56
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smcginnishemna: On their way through.17:58
hemnaok thanks17:58
e0neit was too quick for me17:58
thingeehemna: I would like to get keyerror fix in17:58
smcginnise0ne: :)17:58
hemnamost of what has gone in since 0.4.0 is small log fixes17:58
thingeedevice not found giving key errors might be common17:59
thingeehemna: ^17:59
hemnathingee, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220902/  that one ?17:59
thingeehemna: yes17:59
hemnayah that's been in for a bit17:59
hemnabut yah, I agree.18:00
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hemnacoolio.  thanks guys18:01
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thingeedhellmann: I have a fix I'd like to see in the release. Could do a cut right now. we do have some stuff in flight gate, eta 1hr18:01
dhellmannthingee: ok, the goal is to have the branches by eod so we can wait for a bit for that patch18:02
dhellmannthingee: is that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220902/ ?18:02
thingeeyes18:02
dhellmannok, noted18:02
openstackgerritSean McCully proposed openstack/cinder: Use of ast for integers doesn't changes type  https://review.openstack.org/22594718:02
dhellmannthingee: while we're at it, how about cinder client?18:02
thingeedhellmann: switching to relmgr-office18:03
smcginnisjungleboyj: Full UT run on 14.04. No test failures on master for me.18:04
hemnahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1491495 is still marked as in progress, but the patch for it has landed18:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1491495 in Cinder "cinderclient.quotas.get() fails against Cinder service in a Devstack" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ivan Kolodyazhny (e0ne)18:06
jungleboyjInteresting.  Ok, so something definitely wrong with my env.18:06
smcginnishemna: I think there's an update in flight.18:07
e0nehemna: we've found a root cause with DuncanT today18:07
hemnaok18:07
e0nehemna: here is a new patch18:07
e0nehttps://review.openstack.org/22589118:07
hemnaah yah I see it now further down in the bug18:07
hemnahuh. why didn't we see this earlier ?18:08
hemnaare the CI tests not covering this?18:08
thingeehemna: do we have quota tempest tests?18:09
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Yep, interesting.  If there is a config file in /etc/cinder on the system where you are running unit test that fails.  I will open a bug for that in case anyone else finds it.  Something we should eventually fix.18:09
hemnathingee, doesn't look like it18:10
hemnavolume_quotas_client18:10
thingeehemna: I've recommended a tag for cinder client once that lands.18:12
thingeesmcginnis: I'm assuming you actually tried this patch?18:12
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e0nejungleboyj: whicj tests does fail with cinder.conf?18:17
e0nes/whicj/which18:17
jungleboyje0ne: cinder.tests.unit.test_cmd.TestCinderAllCmd.test_main_load_binary_exception18:17
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e0nejungleboyj: yes, the same on my env:(18:20
e0nejungleboyj: seems to incorrect CONF mock18:20
e0nejungleboyj: even more. it doesn't mock CONF object. it uses real config18:21
jungleboyje0ne: Yuck.18:22
jungleboyjI will open a bug for that.18:22
e0nejungleboyj: could you please send me a link for filed bug?18:22
jungleboyjSure.18:23
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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/cinder: Missing configuration opts from cinder.sample.conf  https://review.openstack.org/22597418:27
jungleboyjangela-s: Can you take a look at this.  I will merge if you are ok:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218341/18:29
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angela-sjungleboyj: +118:34
hemnajungleboyj, angela-s brocade CI looks happy with it18:35
jungleboyjhemna: Yeah, I know.  Just covering my bases.18:35
jungleboyjangela-s: Thank you!18:35
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angela-shemna: yes, CI tests were successful for zoning18:36
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openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/cinder: Remove unused gettextutils from oslo-incubator  https://review.openstack.org/22597818:40
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/cinder: Missing configuration opts from cinder.sample.conf  https://review.openstack.org/22597418:41
openstackgerritYuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: Small optimization in Block Device driver  https://review.openstack.org/22056118:45
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Allow c-vol backends to start when some backends fail to load  https://review.openstack.org/22598218:46
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Make rpc_client private method for VolumeCommands  https://review.openstack.org/22598518:53
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Make rpc_client method private for VolumeCommands  https://review.openstack.org/22598518:54
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jungleboyje0ne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1498148  You planning to look at that or should I have someone here take a look>19:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1498148 in Cinder "test_main_load_binary_exception fails if there is an existing /etc/cinder/cinder.conf file" [Medium,New]19:13
e0nejungleboyj: thanks. if somebody will work on it - I'll be happy to verify and review19:14
jungleboyje0ne: Sounds good.19:14
e0nejungleboyj: if not, I'll try to fix it later this week19:14
e0nejungleboyj: TBH, there are other places where we don't mock config:(19:16
scottdabswartz: Am I correct that using "latest" for api-microversion is frowned upon because it can inadvertently introduce backward incompatible changes , but is necessary for Tempest?19:18
bswartzscottda: I started a thread about that topic19:20
scottdathx. I'll look for it...19:20
bswartzscottda: it's debatable whether tempest actually needs it, but that's the one use case where "latest" seems to have some value19:20
bswartzscottda: IMO the only reason nova needs latest is because their functional tests are in a different git repo than their code19:21
scottdahmmm...ok. So cinder may not need it. How about Manila? Do you need it ?19:21
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bswartzscottda: our tempest tests are in the same tree -- I think cinder has a more similar situation to nova where the tempest tests are out of tree19:27
bswartzthe challenge with microversions is that you want to test both the oldest and the newest microversions that the server supports, as well as any other intermediate versions if they have changed 2 or more times between oldest and newest19:28
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scottdaOK. Thanks for the info19:29
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gouthamrDuncanT, smcginnis, e0ne : Made a minor modification to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222413/ as smcginnis suggested. Could you please approve.19:49
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smcginnisthingee: Sorry, busy afternoon. Which patch?20:10
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Make rpc_client method private for VolumeCommands  https://review.openstack.org/22598520:27
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openstackgerritSean McCully proposed openstack/cinder: Use of ast for integers doesn't changes type  https://review.openstack.org/22594721:30
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thingeesmcginnis: this one that you gave a +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225891/21:59
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pv_do you guys know what cinder uses for device rescans? im using a shell script inside my attach code for a device rescan before our backend shows the appropriate LUN mapping, does openstack have a built in way to do the rescan>?23:28
pv_im testing my FC cinder driver23:28
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jgriffithcburgess_: https://github.com/j-griffith/cinder/tree/add_cache_to_icehouse23:39
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