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| mgagne | I have no idea on how to backport that patch to stable/kilo, so much changes since :-/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222756/3 | 00:08 |
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| jgriffith | mgagne: I should have it for you tomorrow | 00:09 |
| mgagne | jgriffith: are you the merge conflicts solver as a service? :D | 00:10 |
| jgriffith | mgagne: :) | 00:11 |
| jgriffith | mgagne: so I've been working on backports for other versions | 00:11 |
| jgriffith | mgagne: that's the last one on my list | 00:11 |
| mgagne | oh, so there is work in progress already | 00:11 |
| jgriffith | mgagne: yeah, that's what i meant | 00:12 |
| mgagne | cool, will wait until tomorrow to work on that one then and test it | 00:14 |
| jgriffith | mgagne: sounds good | 00:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anish Bhatt proposed openstack/cinder: Obtain target authentication for CXT from database same as LIO target https://review.openstack.org/228298 | 00:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Encode username and password in Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/216085 | 01:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Wilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Fix capacity report error in Huawei driver https://review.openstack.org/226308 | 01:43 |
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| pv_ | hey does run_tests.sh log its results somewhere? | 02:01 |
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| jgriffith | pv_: nope, not that I know of | 04:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | JuPing proposed openstack/cinder: Fix the bug of "spelling error of a word" https://review.openstack.org/229263 | 06:47 |
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| nikeshm | hi | 07:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Remove Cinder API races https://review.openstack.org/207101 | 09:21 |
| nikeshm | we tried to install liberty devstack in ubuntu 14.04 with http://paste.openstack.org/show/474783/ localrc, we are not getting cinder part in dashboard | 09:22 |
| nikeshm | any idea | 09:23 |
| nikeshm | cinder is working in command line only | 09:24 |
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| dulek | DuncanT: Hi, I've compiled an Etherpad summarizing the issue with Cinder's AZs and outcomes of discussion on ML. | 11:09 |
| dulek | DuncanT: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-availability-zones | 11:09 |
| dulek | DuncanT: Any review if that's a helpful approach would be appreciated. :) | 11:09 |
| DuncanT | Dulek: Thanks, I am working on the proposed solution part of the spec, and I can leverage that etherpad for alternatives and references | 11:10 |
| dulek | DuncanT: Okay, feel free to expand it, so it will be helpful to get everybody into discussion at the fishbowl session. | 11:12 |
| dulek | DuncanT: And once you have spec up for reviews it would be cool if you could ping me. | 11:13 |
| dulek | DuncanT: I'm not sure if you're aware of that, but I've compiled a spec for one of the ideas a few weeks earlier: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220971 | 11:15 |
| dulek | DuncanT: May be useful for you. :) | 11:15 |
| DuncanT | I didn't see that spec, no, reading now, thanks | 11:15 |
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| flip214 | what services do I need to install on a node to be able to export iSCSI LUNs? c-vol? The storage below is done via drbd -- | 11:29 |
| flip214 | so that is for the case that the c-vol service node doesn't have the exported data locally; then another node needs to do the iSCSI export, so which services need to be active there? | 11:30 |
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| flip214 | the controller node would need to tell another node to provide the iSCSI export of a (there-local) block storage device | 11:35 |
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| nikeshm | hi | 11:50 |
| nikeshm | did any face the issue? > installed liberty devstack in ubuntu 14.04 with http://paste.openstack.org/show/474783/ localrc, not getting Volume Tab dashboard | 11:52 |
| e0ne | nikeshm: hi. you probably should ask it in #openstack-horizon | 11:56 |
| nikeshm | ok thanks | 11:56 |
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| e0ne | cinder api v1 is enabled again:( | 12:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Philipp Marek proposed openstack/cinder: DRBD: new option "drbdmanage_devs_on_controller". https://review.openstack.org/229396 | 12:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: Implement extend_volume method to Block Device driver https://review.openstack.org/221303 | 13:01 |
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| e0ne | "Currently almost no vendors support cinder v2, this means that v2 as a default is a thing that is more likely to cause a user pain. HOWEVER ..." :'( | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: Implement snapshots-related features for Block Device Driver https://review.openstack.org/222292 | 13:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joel Coffman proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Add volume encryption metadata spec https://review.openstack.org/176050 | 14:01 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: api v1/v2 might be a good topic for todays meeting ya think? | 14:18 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Ya, maybe. :) | 14:18 |
| jgriffith | :) | 14:18 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: I did see you have v1 removal on there. Good! | 14:19 |
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| jgriffith | It'd be good if we good set up a tiger team or something to get all these incompatabilities figured out/tested | 14:19 |
| jgriffith | Oh... yeah... sorry | 14:19 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:19 |
| jgriffith | I wanted to check with you, I put two things on there | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I definitely think we need a wider picture of everything. | 14:20 |
| jgriffith | I pinged you the other night but it was late, so I just posted them :) | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Those look good. | 14:20 |
| jgriffith | k | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, cool. Deep asleep by then. | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | Somehow I've been turning in to a morning person. | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | Not sure if I like that or not. ;) | 14:20 |
| jgriffith | :) welcome!!! | 14:20 |
| jgriffith | Mornings are awesome, quiet, birds.. that fresh morning smell | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 14:21 |
| jgriffith | In a couple weeks though I'm going back to sleeping in. Nothing but cold, gray and probably snow :( | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | Much better when you're next to a mountain, I'm sure. | 14:21 |
| jgriffith | That does help :) | 14:21 |
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| e0ne | we can't disable v1 w/o https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229039/ :( | 14:22 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: I'm thinking at this point we can't disable v1 for a little longer yet. | 14:22 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: I'm honestly wondering if V2 is a failed effort :( | 14:23 |
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| jgriffith | but yeah, I agree with smcginnis I don't think we can disable it for quite a while | 14:23 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: we need to option for devstack to disable it. and try this for every project:( | 14:23 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I don't think failed... | 14:23 |
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| smcginnis | But not as easy as a transition as hoped for sure. | 14:24 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I don't know how it could be tested on infra | 14:24 |
| jgriffith | nahh... not failed, but dropped | 14:24 |
| jgriffith | not done | 14:24 |
| jgriffith | needs help | 14:24 |
| jgriffith | and it's sadly been a very very long evolution | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | Very true. | 14:25 |
| jgriffith | the bummer is that most of the changes are response codes, not even missing/modified methods | 14:25 |
| jgriffith | which is the most annoying thing of all | 14:25 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: They are "more correct" | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | But still different | 14:26 |
| jgriffith | indeed | 14:26 |
| jgriffith | sometimes correct doesn't matter | 14:26 |
| jgriffith | :( | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | Honestly in most cases I think we are to explicit in checking results. Whether it's 200 or 201, both mean "SUCCESS". | 14:26 |
| jgriffith | I agree with you, but others don't seem to see it that way | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: cgsnapshot-delete doesn't actually delete https://review.openstack.org/229007 | 14:30 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: the only thing I find is interesting is how many times keystone and glance break the world, and I mean break as in take away interfaces, change them etc | 14:31 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: the issues with the v1 drop here are the same as those projects have been going through for a long time | 14:31 |
| mtreinish | there's a reason major api version drops have not really happened before | 14:32 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: well, kinda | 14:32 |
| smcginnis | mtreinish: Sounds like as a whole we need to decide how to migrate to new versions? | 14:32 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Double standards? No way! | 14:32 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:32 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: oh.. wait, no... I wasn't saying that | 14:33 |
| mtreinish | smcginnis: my opinion is we need to support old and new, dropping the old just doesn't happen | 14:33 |
| jgriffith | It may be true or not. but I didn't say it :) | 14:33 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: heh, I see what you did there :) | 14:33 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: ;) | 14:33 |
| smcginnis | mtreinish: Yeah, I think we need to find a good way to help folks move to the new API. | 14:33 |
| mtreinish | smcginnis: which is why things like microversions were introduced | 14:33 |
| smcginnis | mtreinish: So it actually is possible some day to remove the old one. | 14:33 |
| jgriffith | Honestly what I was getting at is that I think we need a better design for all of this as a community (all of OpenStack) | 14:33 |
| mtreinish | to make moving foward easier but keep support for the old | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Definitely agree with that. | 14:34 |
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| jgriffith | Or change our philosophy on API's altogether | 14:34 |
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| jgriffith | Like, nothing ever goes away; anything post V1 you provide a version in the call itself | 14:35 |
| jgriffith | so for example, you add a new V3 method that foos a volume; | 14:35 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: have you looked at how microversions work? | 14:36 |
| jgriffith | the call looks like: volumes.foo(arg, version=3) | 14:36 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: briefly | 14:36 |
| jgriffith | I need to spend more time on that | 14:36 |
| mtreinish | it's the same basic idea, you're very explicit with versioning up front and they're tied to specific changes to the api | 14:37 |
| mtreinish | and then the server supports a range of versions | 14:37 |
| jgriffith | interesting | 14:37 |
| jgriffith | Yeah, that's pretty much exactly the sort of thing I was thinking. I"ll have to look at the Nova code and see what they have there | 14:38 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Manila has been going through the conversion. | 14:38 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: sdague had a blog post that explained it at a high level pretty well | 14:38 |
| smcginnis | I think bswartz agreed to be a resource for us on that. | 14:38 |
| jgriffith | I work on another API currently that has a model like that, and it works pretty well, it means you never take anything away or break anything but I kinda think that's good | 14:38 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: looking for it now... | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | jgriffith: in case this helps: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/kilo/implemented/api-microversions.html | 14:39 |
| jgriffith | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 14:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jgriffith: I think ironic had quide a detailed spec too, I think there were plans for an API-WG doc on microversions, but I don't remember how far that got | 14:39 |
| bswartz | did someone say my name and microversions? | 14:40 |
| jgriffith | johnthetubaguy: interesting | 14:40 |
| * jgriffith has apparantly been under a rock for a while | 14:40 | |
| bswartz | in manila we have experience with microversions and it's mostly good, but there are some surprises | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Just mentioning you and Manila have done a lot of work there. | 14:41 |
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| bswartz | I'm happy to talk about it in tokyo or wherever | 14:41 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: yeah, I do recall a very brief conversation with you on that... but I never went and did my homework :( | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: We would love any warning signs you can give us on that path. | 14:41 |
| bswartz | jgriffith and I were considering a joint talk on microversions+experimental APIs | 14:41 |
| bswartz | it could still happen | 14:42 |
| scottda | I have a spec up for Cinder microversions: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223803/3 | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: +1 | 14:42 |
| scottda | And POC code: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224910/3 | 14:42 |
| bswartz | scottda: awesome | 14:42 |
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| jgriffith | johnthetubaguy: mtreinish smcginnis cool stuff, yeah, this is exactly the sort of thing I had in mind (only because I've worked on a project that did something similar) | 14:42 |
| scottda | It's mostly ported from Manila | 14:42 |
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| bswartz | scottda: did you port anything related to experimental yet? | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | jgriffith: sdague has a good post on the nova side of this: https://dague.net/2015/06/05/the-nova-api-in-kilo-and-beyond-2/ | 14:43 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: https://dague.net/2015/06/05/the-nova-api-in-kilo-and-beyond-2/ | 14:43 |
| scottda | No, I skipped the experimental for now...I figured on just getting the basic microversion in first. | 14:43 |
| jgriffith | haha | 14:43 |
| mtreinish | ah, johnthetubaguy beat me to it | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | :) | 14:43 |
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| scottda | bswartz: I probably need to talk to you Manila folk about the surprises. I'm seeing what I think is a race in how one of the decorators for microversions is working. | 14:45 |
| scottda | s/is/are/ | 14:45 |
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| bswartz | scottda: pull in me and cknight | 14:45 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: johnthetubaguy very nice blog from sdague | 14:45 |
| bswartz | also cfouts for microversion client-related changes | 14:46 |
| bswartz | the client was where most of the surprises came from | 14:46 |
| jgriffith | And it does touch on some other things I've thought about in the past and points out why they suck :) | 14:46 |
| scottda | What time zone are they in? I'll query you in the Manila channel | 14:46 |
| bswartz | regarding experimental -- it's not as simple as I'd hoped but we're working through the complexity | 14:46 |
| bswartz | scottda: we're all east coast | 14:46 |
| scottda | cool. | 14:47 |
| bswartz | however wednesday is meeting hell day around here | 14:47 |
| scottda | BTW, patrickeast has already put a fishBowl talk on the Summit agenda for experimental APIs, and there's a working group for microversions. | 14:47 |
| bswartz | so I suggest you aim for thurs or fri | 14:47 |
| scottda | will do. | 14:47 |
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| jgriffith | excellent | 14:52 |
| jgriffith | :q | 14:52 |
| jgriffith | oops | 14:52 |
| e0ne | :wq! | 14:53 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:53 |
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| jgriffith | e0ne: :) | 14:55 |
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| hemna | mornin | 15:15 |
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| scottda | morning | 15:24 |
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| doffm | Hi all, does anyone know the status of snapshot rollback work in cinder? | 15:28 |
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| doffm | I found a couple of old patches / blueprints. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104127/ | 15:29 |
| doffm | Has anything more recent happened? | 15:29 |
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| jgriffith | doffm: nope, that's pretty much dead | 15:35 |
| jgriffith | doffm: the answer for now is just "create volume from snapshot" | 15:35 |
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| doffm | jgriffith: Thanks. | 15:37 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Do you know what I need to do to get launchpad permissions to target blueprints and things? | 15:52 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: hmm.. lemme look | 15:52 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Thanks | 15:53 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: try it now | 15:54 |
| jgriffith | Oh wait.. one other thing I need to change | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Hey, look at all the pretty yellow circles. | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: ok, and you are now an admin | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | go forth and administrate | 15:56 |
| smcginnis | Already feeling drunk with power. | 15:56 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Thank you! | 15:56 |
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| scottda | smcginnis: Will you use your power to start the meeting, or are you too drunk? | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 16:00 |
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| kmartin | good job smcginnis, your hired! | 17:00 |
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| eharney | we still need to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228160/ | 17:00 |
| eharney | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228107/ | 17:01 |
| jungleboyj | kmartin: Hmmm, he missed that first topic change though. ;-) | 17:01 |
| hemna | eharney, thierry still has that one blocked | 17:01 |
| eharney | hemna: sure, but, we need to get these in rc2, so... when are we doing that? | 17:01 |
| smcginnis | kmartin: Thank you sir. Not too drunk I guess. LOL | 17:01 |
| thingee | xyang1, smcginnis: yes, we'll have a backport once we know what to base that off of. | 17:01 |
| kmartin | jungleboyj, one mistake is okay for his first time | 17:01 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Wha?!? | 17:01 |
| xyang1 | thingee: thanks | 17:01 |
| smcginnis | thingee: Thanks! | 17:02 |
| xyang1 | kmartin: we will find out pretty soon if he gets drunk:) | 17:02 |
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| jungleboyj | kmartin: ++ | 17:02 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: What happens at the summit, stays at the summit. :) | 17:02 |
| smcginnis | Unless it gets put in an etherpad. | 17:03 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: :) | 17:03 |
| smcginnis | But then you can never find it again anyway, so that's safe. | 17:03 |
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| jungleboyj | xyang1: I might have insider information. ;-) | 17:03 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Shut your mouth. | 17:03 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: I'll chat with you at the summit:) | 17:04 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: I didn't say anything. | 17:04 |
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| thingee | The Cinder def core work happening https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221631 | 17:04 |
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| smcginnis | thingee: Oh, nice. | 17:05 |
| smcginnis | Off to food before my next meeting... | 17:05 |
| jgriffith | thingee: what does "advisory" mean? | 17:06 |
| jgriffith | nm... reading the doc | 17:07 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: a recommendation | 17:10 |
| thingee | whoops smcginnis ^ | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Philipp Marek proposed openstack/cinder: DRBD: new option "drbdmanage_devs_on_controller". https://review.openstack.org/229396 | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diem Tran proposed openstack/cinder: Fix ZFSSA drivers' local cache bugs https://review.openstack.org/229554 | 18:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sonia Ghanekar proposed openstack/cinder: Add multi-initiator extra-spec for Nimble driver https://review.openstack.org/229185 | 18:08 |
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| smcginnis | nikeshm: Fine, be that way. :) | 18:10 |
| patrickeast | tsekiyama: hemna: you guys know whats up with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196482/ in regards to it making it in to L? | 18:10 |
| hemna | patrickeast, so I was working with tsekiyama on that one for a while | 18:11 |
| hemna | to fix the searching paths for the multipath device | 18:11 |
| patrickeast | yea it looks like its in good shape now | 18:11 |
| hemna | I think it's good to go | 18:11 |
| patrickeast | just sitting there with a bunch of +1's | 18:12 |
| hemna | I think it's backport potential for L | 18:12 |
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| nikeshm | smcginnis: that message generated by mistake :) | 18:16 |
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| Swanson | Any cores around to take a peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229007/ ? Got one +2 now. I would like to port it to liberty. (I'm presuming I can't make the release.) | 18:46 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith, hemna: fyi, I tried to address all your comments about block device driver in the openstack-dev ml | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: CG driver function should not access db https://review.openstack.org/229580 | 19:05 |
| xyang1 | hemna: patrickeast ^ | 19:06 |
| hemna | e0ne, url ? | 19:07 |
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| hemna | xyang1, ooh | 19:07 |
| e0ne | hemna: btw, I almost finished first version of brickclient, I need to do some code cleanup before push it to github | 19:07 |
| xyang1 | hemna: let me know if anything else needs to be passed in | 19:07 |
| patrickeast | xyang1: \o/ yay | 19:08 |
| e0ne | hemna: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/075883.html | 19:08 |
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| hemna | xyang1, https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/san/hp/hp_3par_common.py#L451-L456 | 19:11 |
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| hemna | xyang1, so delete_consistencygroup returns a model_update and a list of volumes. | 19:12 |
| hemna | xyang1, is that still needed? | 19:12 |
| hemna | xyang1, I have a feeling that updating the volume.status is probably not a great thing to do there. | 19:12 |
| xyang1 | hemna: i did not change driver funtions yet | 19:12 |
| hemna | xyang1, yah, I'm asking | 19:12 |
| hemna | xyang1, I could submit a follow up for that file for us | 19:13 |
| xyang1 | hemna: so manager is expecting a status change | 19:13 |
| hemna | xyang1, it feels wrong for a driver to be updating the status field of a volume object | 19:13 |
| xyang1 | hemna: based on that, manager will update | 19:14 |
| xyang1 | hemna: that is the same model as other methods | 19:14 |
| hemna | where? | 19:14 |
| xyang1 | hemna: if there something happens, manager does not know | 19:14 |
| xyang1 | hemna: create volume | 19:15 |
| hemna | xyang1, ?! afaik drivers send back a model update which the volume manager persists. | 19:16 |
| hemna | I've never seen a driver manually change the status field of a volume itself. | 19:16 |
| hemna | maybe I'm high | 19:16 |
| jgriffith | hemna: not directly usually, but typically something embedded in the response or a known exception | 19:17 |
| jgriffith | hemna: that then lets the manager do the db update | 19:17 |
| xyang1 | hemna: the idea is driver needs to tell manager the status of volumes, this is a little different too as there is a group and ind vol status | 19:17 |
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| hemna | https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/san/hp/hp_3par_common.py#L454 | 19:17 |
| hemna | that just seems 'wrong' ?! | 19:17 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: Were you saying that? That the driver should be returning a model update? | 19:17 |
| hemna | I dunno, maybe I'm paranoid | 19:18 |
| smcginnis | So the 3par imlementation should change? | 19:18 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: right | 19:18 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: Thanks, that's what I thought. | 19:18 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: then manager updates based on that | 19:18 |
| smcginnis | I think you're both saying the same thing ultimately. | 19:18 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: +1 | 19:18 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: :) | 19:18 |
| jgriffith | hemna: you still there? | 19:20 |
| hemna | sorry | 19:20 |
| hemna | had a local interrupt | 19:21 |
| hemna | so, what's the right thing to do here? | 19:21 |
| hemna | so the change that xyang1 has to pass in the list of volumes to delete_consistencygroup | 19:21 |
| hemna | so we don't have to fetch them. | 19:21 |
| hemna | shouldn't the manager set the status to 'deleted' itself after a successful call to the driver's delete_cg ? | 19:22 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: it does | 19:22 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, so I think that 3par implementation needs to just pass back a model update instead of performing that internally. | 19:22 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/manager.py#L2615 | 19:23 |
| hemna | jgriffith, was just looking at that | 19:23 |
| jgriffith | hemna: is that what you're looking for? | 19:23 |
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| hemna | the volume manager sets the status what exists in the volume object itself | 19:23 |
| hemna | so the 3PAR code as it stands is required in order to mark that volume as deleted. | 19:23 |
| hemna | meaning we can't remove this line: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/san/hp/hp_3par_common.py#L454 | 19:24 |
| xyang1 | hemna: so manager depends on driver to return status, because here we have a group and volumes | 19:24 |
| hemna | yah I get that | 19:25 |
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| xyang1 | hemna: not as straight forward as one vol | 19:25 |
| hemna | I guess I'm asking is it 'ok' for drivers to be touching the status field of a volume itself. | 19:25 |
| hemna | just in general | 19:25 |
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| hemna | seems like a grey area to me | 19:26 |
| smcginnis | Oh, looking at the code a little closer. I _think_ that's right as is. | 19:26 |
| jgriffith | hemna: xyang1 the other alternative you guys could look at is changing the method to return a 'update struct' with the info that gets used instead of the volume object | 19:26 |
| xyang1 | hemna: in this case, if you don't tell me, you will have to throw exception | 19:26 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: i am looking at that too | 19:27 |
| hemna | jgriffith, yah | 19:27 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: but the snapshot one needs volume id | 19:27 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: so I figured it is easier to keep as is | 19:27 |
| hemna | is it wrong to assume a successful call to a driver's delete_cg results in each volume being deleted ? | 19:27 |
| xyang1 | hemna: if everything is successful, that is fine | 19:28 |
| xyang1 | hemna: problem is if you get it half way | 19:28 |
| Swanson | hemna: xyang1: thanks for the +2's | 19:29 |
| hemna | xyang1, so if the driver pukes on deleting the 3rd volume out of 5, and raises, then we bail down into the exception area in the volume manager anyway | 19:29 |
| xyang1 | hemna: so we could set everything as succesful if no exception | 19:29 |
| xyang1 | hemna: otherwise everything fail | 19:29 |
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| hemna | so looking at this closer it seems that the volume manager assumes that a driver may not raise an exception during the delete_cg call | 19:30 |
| hemna | and will update the 3rd of 5 volumes status to !deleted | 19:30 |
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| hemna | then https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/manager.py#L2622-L2625 | 19:31 |
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| xyang1 | hemna: there is exception catch there | 19:31 |
| xyang1 | hemna: I was trying to handle both | 19:31 |
| hemna | yah | 19:31 |
| hemna | our driver might raise during a delete_volume call | 19:32 |
| hemna | so | 19:32 |
| xyang1 | hemna: the current code handles both | 19:32 |
| hemna | should we wrap our loop over delete_volume and catch those ourselves? | 19:32 |
| xyang1 | hemna: so if you raise, it shoukd be fine too | 19:32 |
| hemna | so that prevents the entire action from getting stuck in an error_deleting | 19:32 |
| hemna | at least on the cg | 19:33 |
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| hemna | ok I guess that happens anyway | 19:34 |
| xyang1 | hemna: the group will be error deleting if you set status to error | 19:34 |
| xyang1 | hemna: if you catch, what are you going to return | 19:34 |
| hemna | ok, so if we don't update the volume itself, then the vmanager has no way of making sure the entire thing worked | 19:35 |
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| xyang1 | hemna: right, as it does not know about ind vol | 19:35 |
| hemna | kambiz, well it just seems odd to be touching the volume status directly from the driver's perspective | 19:35 |
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| hemna | *sigh* xchat | 19:36 |
| kambiz | hemna: ? | 19:36 |
| kambiz | oh .. sorry | 19:36 |
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| hemna | kambiz, my bad. it's xchat's tab completion. sorry. | 19:36 |
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| kambiz | no worries ... weechat does the same to me at times. | 19:37 |
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| hemna | xyang1, so i'm just trying to figure out if we can somehow get away from touching the volume status in the driver itself | 19:38 |
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| hemna | and still report failure/success correctly | 19:38 |
| jgriffith | hemna: I'll try this one more time.... | 19:40 |
| jgriffith | hemna: You could modify the manager call to take an update structure on response | 19:40 |
| hemna | so in general in other driver calls, if there is a failure, isn't it assumed there is an exception raised to the vmanager ? | 19:40 |
| jgriffith | and let it do the updates on the volume objects itself | 19:40 |
| hemna | yah that's kind what I was thinking | 19:40 |
| hemna | I mean if we are doing this sort of thing in other places, then I suppose it's not a big deal | 19:41 |
| hemna | just trying to understand the vmanager -> driver contract as best as I can. | 19:41 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: so right now it returns model_updat for group and volumes | 19:41 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: yeah, I know | 19:41 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: hemna just doesn't like that it touches the volume object directly | 19:41 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: we can change volumes to be an [] of dictionaries | 19:41 |
| hemna | jgriffith, am I just being silly? | 19:42 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: I have no opinion on that really... but was just pointing out that there's a fairly trivial middle ground | 19:42 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: is that what you mean | 19:42 |
| jgriffith | hemna: I don't know.. I kinda see your point. It's more about consistency IMHO | 19:42 |
| xyang1 | hemna: will you be ok with dictionay | 19:42 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: consistency in terms of "drivers don't muck with the volume objects" | 19:42 |
| hemna | yah, that's kinda what was getting at in a terribly worded and completely convoluted/confusing way | 19:42 |
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| jgriffith | I don't know if that's good/bad or matters | 19:42 |
| xyang1 | hemna: jgriffith in other words, model update for a volume | 19:43 |
| hemna | yah | 19:43 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: yeah... so you could just say something like delete_cgs ... return (model_update, [{volume_status_updates: { blah blah}}] | 19:44 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: ya, that is better | 19:44 |
| hemna | aye | 19:44 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: it's really NO different than what you have, it just separates the two interests | 19:44 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: hemna that was the intention | 19:44 |
| xyang1 | But everyone takes the short cut | 19:44 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: :) | 19:44 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: Yeah, it's really just a short cut | 19:45 |
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| xyang1 | I just need to figure out create_cgsnapshot | 19:45 |
| xyang1 | That one needs volume id | 19:45 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: but not even necessarily, because if the manager was ever changed to not do the db updates off of those they'd be lost anyway | 19:45 |
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| jgriffith | xyang1: you have code for that? | 19:46 |
| hemna | ok sorry for causing a fuss | 19:46 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: which one? | 19:46 |
| jgriffith | hemna: nahh, I think it was a really good discussion | 19:46 |
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| xyang1 | Cgsnapshot? | 19:46 |
| jgriffith | xyang1: for the 'create cg snaps' | 19:46 |
| jgriffith | yeah | 19:46 |
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| xyang1 | 1 sec | 19:47 |
| jgriffith | can't find your patch | 19:47 |
| hemna | gotta grab some chow....bbiab. | 19:47 |
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| xyang | jgriffith: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/manager.py#L2894 | 19:49 |
| xyang | jgriffith: my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229580/ | 19:49 |
| jgriffith | Oh.. DERP | 19:49 |
| jgriffith | I thought you were working on something new | 19:49 |
| jgriffith | sorry | 19:49 |
| xyang1 | jgriffith: no, just bug fixing | 19:50 |
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| jgriffith | xyang: yeah.. that ones kinda tricky huh? You have to do some thing like take the group, get the cg ID off of that, then querie the backrefs of the volumes | 19:52 |
| jgriffith | xyang: like a get_volumes and filter on the cg ID | 19:52 |
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| xyang | jgriffith: ya, I can get that from the original snapshots, I think | 19:52 |
| xyang | jgriffith: I have that before calling driver | 19:53 |
| jgriffith | xyang: or add a volume backref like we do with normal snapshots | 19:53 |
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| xyang | jgriffith: I'll take a look of that | 19:54 |
| jgriffith | xyang: so you don't like the way your patch is doing it? | 19:56 |
| jgriffith | xyang: I mean... that works, seems pretty straight forward | 19:57 |
| xyang | jgriffith: it works, it is just that if I change snapshots to model_update, it won't have volume_id any more | 19:57 |
| xyang | jgriffith: I can't expect driver to provide that in model_update | 19:58 |
| jgriffith | xyang: looking.... | 19:58 |
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| xyang | jgriffith: so I think I can use the original snapshots which are objects | 19:58 |
| jgriffith | xyang: why don't you just use the same trick :) | 19:59 |
| xyang | jgriffith: what same trick? | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | xyang: modify the signature and pass in the volume? | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | xyang: or did we just come full circle :) | 19:59 |
| xyang | jgriffith: the snapshots here were returned by the driver | 20:00 |
| xyang | jgriffith: it is a circle, I think:) | 20:00 |
| jgriffith | :) | 20:00 |
| xyang | jgriffith: so if I rename the returned parameter from driver, that will work | 20:00 |
| xyang | jgriffith: so I passed in snapshots, that has volume_id. when driver returns back, it is snapshot_model_updates | 20:01 |
| xyang | jgriffith: snapshot_model_updates has uuid of snapshot and status only | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: LVM: Make sparse_copy_volume private, use for capabilities https://review.openstack.org/226989 | 20:12 |
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| jgriffith | congrats thingee | 21:33 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: thanks! | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | pretty cool | 21:35 |
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| thingee | yeah feels good to finally let the news out :) | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | :) | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | So what's your role going to be? | 21:36 |
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| thingee | cross-project developer coordinator | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: CG driver function should not access db https://review.openstack.org/229580 | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | nice | 21:36 |
| thingee | focusing on cross project initiatives like openstack specs, def core, product working group, etc | 21:36 |
| xyang | hemna: ^ | 21:37 |
| xyang | hemna: if you return "None, None" in delete_consistencygroup, manager will set status to 'error' for group and all volumes | 21:38 |
| xyang | hemna: sorry | 21:38 |
| xyang | hemna: let me try again | 21:38 |
| xyang | hemna: if you return "None, None" in delete_consistencygroup, manager will set status to 'deleted' for group and all volumes | 21:38 |
| xyang | hemna: if you throw exception, status will be set to "error" for group and volumes | 21:39 |
| xyang | hemna: how is that sound | 21:39 |
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| tbarron | thingee: "cross-project developer coordinator": you'll do great and I expect we'll be seeing a lot of you in that role :-) | 22:09 |
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| hemna | xyang1, that sounds good | 22:23 |
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| xyang1 | hemna: great. I made similar change for create/delete cgsnapshot | 22:26 |
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| ociuhandu | thingee, asselin: Hello, did you have by any chance a moment to go over the Microsoft iSCSI CI logs? | 22:36 |
| asselin | ociuhandu, yes i think its fine.... | 22:37 |
| asselin | would've been nice if the layout & flow matched better upstream, and if you used os-loganalyze, but those aren't requirements | 22:38 |
| ociuhandu | asselin: thank you. I will try to implement also these asap, so we are matching the layout and flow better | 22:38 |
| ociuhandu | asselin: what can we do as next steps to re-enble the gerrit account? | 22:39 |
| asselin | ask thingee or smcginnis | 22:40 |
| ociuhandu | asselin: ok, thank you | 22:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/cinder: Obtain target authentication from database same as LIO target https://review.openstack.org/228084 | 22:49 |
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