Wednesday, 2015-10-14

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thingeesmcginnis: not sure what ttl is00:59
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lifelessthingee: time to live?01:05
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jgriffithmeans your ping timed out01:28
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jgriffithlifeless: +101:28
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Brocade driver add_zone optimization
zhongjun22thingee: hi :)01:54
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Remove the jointly loaded model in finish_volume_migration
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Remove the jointly loaded model in finish_volume_migration
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Remove the jointly loaded model in finish_volume_migration
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Brocade driver add_zone optimization
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wilson-liuCan any core take a look at this blueprint:
wilson-liuThis plueprint needs a approver, thanks!05:08
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Update the devref for volume migration
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/cinder: CG creation should be schedule on backend level
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openstackgerritwanghao proposed openstack/cinder: Improve performance listing detail for volumes
openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Remove the jointly loaded model in finish_volume_migration
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lixiaoy11Hi, anyone may help me to clear the pools usage in cinder?07:00
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Implement update_migrated_volume for NFS driver
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Implement update_migrated_volume for NFS driver
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zigoharlowja: Hi there! Could you please upload your GPG key to a key server? My build process tries to fetch the key and can't do it.08:07
zigoharlowja: Also, it'd be nice if we could cross-sign keys in Tokyo, so I'm able to really check your tag signatures before building.08:07
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vincent_hougeguileo: there?08:20
geguileovincent_hou: Yep, though I haven't looked at what we discussed the other day :-(08:20
vincent_hougeguileo: Dude. I provided a fix for it.
vincent_hougeguileo: Check it to see if you prefer this approach.08:21
geguileovincent_hou: Awesome!08:21
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Updated from global requirements
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openstackgerritLukas Bezdicka proposed openstack/os-brick: Remove brackets from portal
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openstackgerritSilvan Kaiser proposed openstack/cinder: Implements: blueprint allow-insecure-conf-in-quobyte
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openstackgerritSilvan Kaiser proposed openstack/cinder: Support insecure NAS security options in Quobyte
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smcginnisthingee: TTL - time to live. Poor networking joke. :]12:29
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smcginniswilson-liu: Done12:30
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DuncanTAnybody know if the gate is healthy now?13:42
smcginnisDuncanT: As far as I know, it should be.13:43
smcginnisDuncanT: Backport too I believe. I think all of the dependency mess got cleaned up and merged.13:44
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DuncanTGreat, thanks13:49
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jordanPwe should have a "Gate weather forecast" :)13:56
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scottdaThis kinda works:
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jgriffithscottda: +1 :)14:17
jgriffithgeguileo: ping14:17
geguileojgriffith: pong14:17
jgriffithgeguileo: hey ya...  about
geguileojgriffith: I'm on a meeting so I may reply slowly14:18
jgriffithgeguileo: that's a backport/cherry-pick so now added tests14:18
jgriffithgeguileo: no worries... meetings are fun :)14:18
geguileojgriffith: XD XD14:18
jgriffithgeguileo: also, if we have to write unit tests for every "if" statement we add we'll be in big trouble IMO :)14:18
geguileojgriffith: No, I mean that original patch had a test14:18
geguileojgriffith: And backport doesn't14:19
jgriffithgeguileo: Ohhhh14:19
geguileojgriffith: And I don't know why it's not in the backport14:19
geguileojgriffith: Next time I'll explain it better, sorry14:19
jgriffithgeguileo: yeah, bad merge14:19
jgriffithgeguileo: I'll have a look at that14:19
geguileojgriffith: Great :-)14:20
jgriffithgeguileo: thanks for clarifying the comment :)14:20
geguileojgriffith: Yeah, sorry about it needing clarification, my bad14:20
jgriffithgeguileo: nah... you'll get used to that sort of thing with me :)  and I'm not shy about asking so no worries :)14:20
geguileojgriffith: Good to know   :-)14:21
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jgriffithgeguileo: updated, thanks for pointing it out14:33
jgriffithgeguileo: side effect of moving tests into a different directory... backports don't quite work :)14:34
geguileojgriffith: Yeah, that's a pain :-(14:34
jgriffithgeguileo: I reap what a sow :)14:34
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kevincarr1991Has anyone had the issue of /var/lock/cinder directory being deleted every time the server reboots?14:45
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ntpttrHey everyone, when making changes to the cinder client with devstack, how can we make the cinder service know that we've made changes to the python-cinderclient repository so that we can test the changes?14:50
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jgriffithntpttr: there's a trick to that kinda :)14:51
jgriffithntpttr: you need to modify your local.conf LIBS_FROM_GIT entry to include cinderclient14:51
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jgriffithntpttr: That should cause cinderclient install from git and use dev flag so you can modify the cinderclient code14:53
ntpttrjgriffith: All right I'll give that a go - so if I've already cloned the repository and made changes to it will adding that line and restacking clone a fresh copy that I'll need to move my changes into?14:53
ntpttrjgriffith: like into /opt/stack/python-cinderclient with the rest of the repos?14:54
jgriffithntpttr: you can also try in the cinderclient dir14:54
jgriffithntpttr: oh... so rerunning should update but not nuke your changes.  To be *safe* I always make a git-diff :)14:55
ntpttrjgriffith: Okay I'll do that then :) thanks14:55
jgriffithntpttr: you can also get it to work after the fact by pip uninstall what you had and installing from source locally FYI14:56
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ntpttrjgriffith: I also had one other quick question about the cinderclient - I've been using the do_backup_show method as a comparison when writing the volume show method, and I noticed that the actual command 'backup-show' isn't definted anywhere in the repo, either in or in any tests. Does the client parse functions like 'do_backup_show' and use them to recognize commands like 'backup-show'? And should there be unit tests for th15:00
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scottdantpttr: I just use a dirty hack and symlink the contents of /opt/stack/python-cinderclient/cinderclient to /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/cinderclient15:01
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scottdaThen any changes you make on the repo are picked up instantly by the client and you can iterate pretty quickly on testing.15:02
geguileoeharney: I was told we shouldn't +A anything, has this ban been lifted?15:03
ntpttrscottda: Oh that's clever, thanks for the tip15:03
jgriffithgeguileo: we're all good now15:03
eharneygeguileo: i think everything has been cleaned up15:03
scottdantpttr: Use "cp -rs source/ dest/"15:03
geguileoeharney: jgriffith  Good to know! Thanks!15:04
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Implement cinder type-show
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scottdathingee: harlowja Were one of you leading a Summit cross-project session on issues around using rootwrap?15:35
smcginnisscottda: I don't see anything here:
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smcginnisscottda: There is the privsep spec out there that I believe was accepted.15:37
scottdaOK. It was on an etherpad for possible discussion in a Nova-Cinder session with regards to Os-Brick, but I'm not sure if there's going to be anything to discuss.15:37
smcginnisYeah, not sure either.15:39
hemnawe need to hash that out in M15:39
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Implement cinder type-show
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smcginnisThis will certainly have an impact, though I would like to see it in action before changing anything with rootwrap:
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scottdathingee: harlowja Sorry, I believe I was thinking about the DLM session that you 2 are involved in. Disregard the rootwrap topic.15:46
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thingeesmcginnis: right missing context15:51
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thingeesmcginnis: FYI, the release notes for liberty has *always* been a team effort. I'm the only one who has added links to documentation for new features.15:53
thingeesmcginnis: I recommend you bring that up in the meeting15:53
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thingeescottda: yes I'm moderating the DLM talk.15:54
thingeescottda: I don't have an affiliation with any DLM.15:54
smcginnisthingee: OK, thanks.15:54
thingeeso I could really care less which one gets picked.15:54
thingeejust that we should pick one15:55
jgriffiththingee: well that's kind of a dangerous atitude15:55
scottdathingee: just noting that you are leading the session on DLM. I was confusing this with a different session for rootwrap.15:55
jgriffiththingee: so we should pick Billy-Joe-Jim-Bobs csv locking system... just because we don't care and should just pick one?15:55
thingeesmcginnis: I'll be MIA in the meeting today. Lots of on-site fntech summit prep work happening15:55
* jgriffith thinks he may have misinterpreted that statement?15:56
smcginnisthingee: Cool, thanks15:57
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Swansonjgriffith, one reason import might be better than failover is that the old volume id will be identifying a volume that with repls might still exist on one or more backends.16:15
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jgriffithSwanson: isn't that sort of the definition of a replicated volume?16:29
Swansonjgriffith, yeah, but you've just failed it over.  It isn't really replicated any more.16:29
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Swansonjgriffith, source was hit by an asteroid.  It may or may not come back with the same volume still on board.  It may or may not have been replicated to more than just the one backend.16:30
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jgriffithSwanson: then who cares frankly16:31
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/cinder: windows: don't use LOG.exception if not logging an exception
Swansonjgriffith, the concern is when they try to reestablish replication.  If they enable replication on the new backend to one of the other backends guids will collide.16:36
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hemnaSo Galway is in the 40F, 6C range in January fwiw.16:41
smcginnishemna: Sounds nice to me.16:42
smcginnisDublin may be easier for folks to get to. Close to the airport.16:42
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scottdaGalway is gloomy in Jan!!! You'd be forced to drink lotsa beer just to get along.16:42
hemnaRoseville, CA is in the 50s in Jauary for a high.16:43
scottdaDublin may not be an option for HP hosting...I think the offices there are going to the HP consumer side after we split, and we're on the Enterprise side.16:43
jgriffithSwanson: are they stupid?16:43
smcginnishemna: If that ends up a better option, that would be fine.16:43
DuncanTjgriffith: You can't discount that option when it comes to customers16:43
hemnaI'll float the idea w/ mgmt here today16:43
hemnait'll be tough16:44
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smcginnisEspecially cores, if international would cause too many NOT to be able to attend, that definitely changes things.16:44
smcginnisWould like it to be better for geguileo, DuncanT, and e0ne if possible. And other non-US contributors.16:45
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smcginnisOK, bbl.16:45
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Swansonjgriffith, ok.16:46
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jgriffithSwanson: so I'm only partially kidding16:48
jgriffithSwanson: there are certainly all sorts of corner cases that can and will come up16:48
jgriffithSwanson: I just don't think we should overanalyze16:49
jgriffithSwanson: I also don't completely follow the problem in your scenario16:49
hemnajgriffith, +116:49
jgriffithSwanson: I would fully expect that some admin intervention is going to be required if a meteor hits a data center16:49
jgriffithSwanson: assuming there are any Admins left :)16:49
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tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: I think it's reasonable to expect failover to a replica to be "easy" and failback to original to be "involved."16:53
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jgriffithtbarron: agreed16:53
jgriffithtbarron: especially at first16:53
tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: the first is done under pressure; the second, a deliberate, careful act.16:53
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tbarronNot saying you can't invent counter-examples, but that's the way DR normally works I think.16:54
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DuncanTtbarron: We only aim to cover a subset of DR scenarios initially, and that sounds like exactly the right one to aim for17:12
DuncanTtbarron: We need a good answer to 'what are we trying to achieve' constantly17:12
tbarronDuncanT: ++17:13
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Swansonjgriffith, tbarron here's my basic issue.  On our array running failover is probably not something you want to do.  The end user has some options that will go away if they just break the replication and attach to the volume.  They'll certainly have extra cleanup.17:24
Swansonjgriffith, tbarron so I'll implement failover but recommend that people don't use it for our array.17:24
Swansonjgriffith, tbarron so the concern is that the busy admin (or idiot) goes "Hey! failover!  Saved!" and does something that takes options away from them.17:25
Swansonjgriffith, tbarron that's my only issue.17:26
openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Adding a tool that allows querying of LUNs
SwansonWhat kind of salad bar only puts grapefruit on it for the fruit selection?  Have these people never heard of a statin?17:27
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tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: I think a number of us will be struggling with drivers that may not implement some of the methods in the spec, or may not implement them optimally, etc.17:28
tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: it's a tricky issue to be sure.17:28
tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: john did a real good thing moving stuff out of the create path and to the drivers.17:29
tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: and it still turns out that there's quite a bit of divergence in what our drivers do on this front.17:29
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jgriffithSwanson: tbarron so just keep in mind, my original proposal was all we did was replicate17:30
jgriffithSwanson: tbarron nothing more... and people didn't like that17:30
hemnasmcginnis, just got word from my mgr.  we wouldn't be able to attend a Europe midcycle.17:30
Swansontbarron, jgriffith the initiating of replication seems to be the main common ground.  After that I think recovery diverges alot.17:31
tbarronjgriffith: yeah, I know.17:31
Swansonjgriffith, tbarron I like that!17:31
jgriffithSwanson: tbarron If you look at the history on the spec you'll notice I had to go through quite a few iterations and add quite a few things17:31
Swansonjgriffith, didn't people also want automagic failover?17:31
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tbarronjgriffith: :-)  yeah.17:31
jgriffithSwanson: failover was specifically sited as a requirement17:31
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jgriffithSwanson: and my spec obtained a -1 on multiple counts from multiple parties for not having it17:32
jgriffithSwanson: I will say again however... I think there's a lot of "boiling the ocean" going on here17:33
jgriffithSwanson: IMHO.. implement the ability to replicate a volume17:33
jgriffithSwanson: we'll get to the failover pieces next if need be17:33
tbarronjgriffith: Swanson: as we implement, some of us are going to have replication working, and valuable to customers, but not be able to support all the methods on every platform.17:33
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jgriffithSwanson: I'll also point out this is EXACTLY the sort of reason that I didn't feel any driver was ready to ship this feature in L17:34
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Mark XML API as deprecated in Mitaka.
tbarronjgriffith: Swanson: it would be good to have a recommended way of handling that: log a warning, throw an exception, ... ?17:34
apoorvadhg backup17:34
jgriffithtbarron: yeah... the problem is that as you probably know I've alway s been the "all or nothing" voice17:34
Swansonjgriffith, yeah, I figured that.  Need to really get a few arrays implementing it to know what we have.17:34
jgriffithtbarron: by all or nothing I mean all drivers do it or none do it17:34
jgriffithtbarron: I don't like the idea of publishing features that "may or may not" work depending on your deployment17:35
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jgriffithSwanson: and TBH, if I just ignored IRC and everything else going on I could finish my implementation and maybe it would be helpful :)17:35
tbarronjgriffith: yeah, that's why I've been hanging back a bit with proposed implementations :-)17:35
Swansonjgriffith, and I do appreciate your work.  Wiring in repl now.  And I can come up with reasons one would want to run replication_failover rather than more complex on device methods.  So I'm happy doing it.17:36
jgriffithtbarron: :)17:36
e0nehemna: hi Walt. I would like to finish cleanup and docs for the brickclient this week and introduce it in the ML/Ironic meeting next week to get some feedback17:36
tbarronjgriffith: I'm pretty sure that we're not alone in not being able to implement all methods.17:36
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jgriffithtbarron: Swanson I propose this...17:36
tbarronjgriffith: and nonetheless having a very valuable replication  capability.17:36
e0nehemna: we need to get feedback from them as early, as possible17:36
jgriffithtbarron: Swanson let's get some code up not even necessarily merge17:37
jgriffithtbarron: Swanson and then put our heads together in Tokyo17:37
jgriffithSwanson: tbarron I'm assuming you will be in Tokyo?17:37
tbarronjgriffith: which I'd like to say replication=True for instead of just that lame netapp_replication thing.17:37
jgriffithSwanson: tbarron if not, we'll set up something remote17:37
Swansonjgriffith, Nope.  but my representative smcginnis will be there.17:37
jgriffithtbarron: :)17:37
jgriffithSwanson: Ill loop you in via skype/hangout or whatever technology you prefer17:38
tbarronjgriffith: Swanson: I put a replication 2.1 on the sprint list a few weeks back, just as a placeholder for that kind of thing.17:38
Swansonjgriffith, tbarron cool.  I have a plan for now.  I'm going to implement it.  My concerns are probably overblown.  (Replication makes you feel like the data is just that much more important.)17:39
Swansonjgriffith, in the meantime I'll let you finish before I harass you again.17:39
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tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: I think we'll lead with an implementation for our E-series drivers, where we'll be closest to the spec.17:40
tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: for the Data ONTAP drivers, we really need pool granularity replication as an option.17:40
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tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: john left some room for that in his spec, but there are implications for the methods ...17:41
tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: hence my moniker "replication 2.1"17:41
tbarronSwanson: jgriffith: the intention would be to extend on a good foundation.17:42
jgriffithI'll still just get distracted on my own anyway :)17:43
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hemnae0ne, ok I'll update and try it out if I can get time today17:43
Swansontbarron, jgriffith I just like being able to kick off replications automagically.  So once I get that in all the places that require it I'll be pretty happy.17:43
e0nehemna: cool. I'll push more cleaner code tomorrow. probably, NFS support will be added too17:44
smcginnishemna: crap17:50
smcginnisIf we did US, were you offering to see if your office could host?17:51
hemnayah, we could host17:51
smcginnishemna: Mind throwing that in ?17:52
smcginnistbarron: Would around you be an option for the midcycle? Maybe folks travelling would have it a little easier not needing to go all the way across the continent?17:53
tbarronsmcginnis: I think Raleigh would be an option.  Our product manager said that would be cool last time.17:53
smcginnistbarron: Great. Just taking a look at all options at this point.17:54
tbarronsmcginnis: we have an Executive Briefing Center that we'd try to reserve.  It has wireless, catered food, etc.17:54
smcginnisWe'll probably need to decide soon-ish.17:54
smcginnistbarron: Ooh, nice!17:54
smcginnisI'd offer up having it hear, but I'm not that mean.17:55
tbarronsmcginnis: I'll do some checking as to dates of its availability.  Don't need to do additional reserach on local brew-pubs, that's already done.17:55
tbarronsmcginnis: though I was looking forward to a chance to do some skating on Lake Harriet.17:56
smcginnistbarron: Come visit any time. I'm just a few blocks south of there.17:56
tbarronLynhurst neighborhood has clearly gone downhill :-)17:56
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smcginnistbarron: Hah!17:57
tbarronsmcginnis: my Director just told me that we can certainly find a place to meet here in January.17:57
smcginnistbarron: Cool, can you add it to the etherpad as an option?17:58
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Add new Connector APIs for path validation
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tbarronsmcginnis: won't you own Boston by January?18:08
smcginnistbarron: Hah!18:09
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smcginnistbarron: Maybe next Jan that will be an option. Not this one for sure.18:10
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smcginnisIronically, going to Boston is probably more expensive than going to Ireland.18:10
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jungleboyjjgriffith:  This looks ok for Kilo.  Needs another set of eyes.18:12
jungleboyjjgriffith: Same for this one:
openstackgerritPatrick East proposed openstack/cinder: Add retries for Cisco FCZM client CLI _cfg_save
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thingeesmcginnis: ping18:29
jgriffithjungleboyj: on it, thakns18:29
jgriffiththanks even :)18:29
thingeesmcginnis: checking in on the session submissions via cheddar. any issues?18:29
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jungleboyjjgriffith: Thanks.18:30
jgriffithjungleboyj: tbarron the path fix for sure... I have to question the "performance" improvement one though18:30
jgriffithI at least have to raise a concern, doesn't mean it shouldn't merge, but it is kinda borderline no?18:31
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tbarronjgriffith: jungleboyj: it addresses a situation where customers delete lots of cloned files at once, and performance degrades18:32
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tbarronnot just for those operations, but potentially data path operations also.18:32
jgriffithtbarron: yeah... a performance enhancement18:32
jgriffithtbarron: stop talking.. you'll make it worse :)18:32
tbarronjgriffith: jungleboyj: :-)18:32
smcginnisthingee: Nope, no issues. Went pretty painless. Thanks!18:33
jungleboyj*sigh*  I wouldn't have +2'd it but it is limited to their driver so it worried me less.18:34
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jgriffithjungleboyj: yeah, I had the same opinion and stated so18:35
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jungleboyjjgriffith:  This one touches a config option.  Isn't that a naughty?18:36
jgriffithjungleboyj: yeah... modifying is no beuano18:38
jgriffithjungleboyj: but that "adds" a new one18:38
jungleboyjOk.  That was what I thought.18:38
jgriffithjungleboyj: The problem with that fellar is that if you have VLAN's there's no way to make it work without hacking the code18:38
jungleboyjOh ... Ok.18:39
smcginnisjungleboyj, jgriffith: Seems reasonable then.18:39
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jgriffithyeah... I don't like it either.. but18:39
jungleboyjOk, +2 then.  :-)18:39
jgriffithalso, the guidelines call out "incompatible config changes"18:40
* jungleboyj trusts jgriffith s knowledge. :-)18:40
jgriffithwhich that one is not18:40
jgriffithjungleboyj: dangerous18:40
jgriffithdangerous == "trusting my knowledge"18:40
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jungleboyjWhere is xyang ?  Looks like she is trying to pull back new features here!
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jungleboyjAm I being too harsh there?18:42
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hemna  what's up with CI on that one?18:44
jgriffithhemna: what do you mean?18:45
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patrickeast that looks pretty normal for the stable/kilo ci results18:45
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patrickeastthey aren't so great18:45
* hemna has a sad18:45
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jungleboyjOk, so I have gotten my +2 in on the things that I can.  Up to jgriffith and smcginnis to fight out what else get the blessing of +W18:51
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hemnajungleboyj, yah that one looks like new features masked as a bug18:54
jungleboyjOk, that was my thought as well.  xyang isn't here to defend it.18:54
smcginnisMy lawyers have advised me to stay out of it.18:55
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winston-d_smcginnis: so it's offical to all d/e employees?18:56
smcginniswinston-d_: Well, months I'm sure before anything actually happens, but it's all announced and in the open.18:57
hemnaDunkin donuts ?18:57
smcginnishemna: Hah, maybe that should be the next acquisition. :)18:57
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Mark XML API as deprecated in Mitaka.
smcginniswinston-d_: Isn't it the middle of the night for you?18:57
hemnasmcginnis, :)18:57
winston-d_smcginnis: yeah, I missed the weekly meeting again and feel guilty, so I got up...18:59
smcginniswinston-d_: Hah!18:59
smcginniswinston-d_: No worries, you can read the meeting log. Nothing too substantial.18:59
smcginniswinston-d_: Though I wouldn't mind getting your feedback on the midcycle thing.18:59
winston-d_smcginnis: yup, reading it.18:59
e0nesmcginnis: I almost missed a meeting today. what do you think about regular anouncing for bug triage day?19:00
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smcginnise0ne: As in having a regular set day for everyone to focus on bugs?19:01
e0nesmcginnis: it's not very helpful, only ~15 bugs were confirmed/invalidated last time19:01
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e0nesmcginnis: yes, something like "first Friday after each milestone"19:01
smcginnise0ne: I think we've tried a few times in the past with lackluster results, but I would definitely be behind trying it again.19:02
smcginnise0ne: Our bug count is a little crazy.19:02
smcginnisI'm sure there are a lot that no longer apply.19:02
smcginnisOr were fixed indirectly.19:02
e0nesmcginnis: thet's why I'm proposing it19:02
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e0nesmcginnis: newcomers may not even know that they could do it19:02
smcginnise0ne: Sure, we can announce next meeting to target first Friday after each milestone. I think that works well.19:03
e0nesmcginnis: ok, I'll add the topic to the agenda19:03
smcginnise0ne: Great, thanks!19:03
e0nesmcginnis: I've missed todays due to the day-off19:04
smcginnise0ne: Oh, holiday?19:04
hemnawhat's a day off?19:04
e0nesmcginnis: yes, one more official holiday we've got today:)19:05
e0nehemna: I know, you've had it this year19:05
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winston-d_micycle in Europe is fantastic, although I can't even convince bosses to send me to US for previous mid-cycles.19:09
smcginniswinston-d_: Would it be more likely for you to be able to attend if it was in Europe?19:10
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winston-d_the cost would be somewhat similar level as travelling to US based on Paris summit experience.19:12
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smcginniswinston-d_: OK, so it probably wouldn't end up helping out you in any way.19:14
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winston-d_if you have looking for somewhere warm, southeast asia is another option, Thailand, Maylaysia, Philpin...19:16
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winston-d_btw, anyone got invitation for core party?  I didn't this time.19:18
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smcginniswinston-d_: I think I got an email for it a week or so ago.19:21
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openstackgerritAlessandro Pilotti proposed openstack/cinder: Port Windows drivers to Python 3
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mriedemknown issue?
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jgriffithmriedem: not that I've seen....19:52
jgriffithmriedem: are we seeing a bunch of those in logstash?19:52
mriedemjust that change, so it's a fluke for now19:53
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jgriffithmriedem: so we have seen that sort of signature where c-vol just never starts long ago19:58
jgriffithmriedem: hollar if you see it again please19:58
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jgriffithor I'll just check kibana every once in a while... whatever20:01
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Port SolidFire to Python3
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tbarronhemna: thingee: got the FC CI to run (and it passed) against
thingeetbarron: ack20:16
hemnatbarron, nice!20:16
tbarronso much as it pains me to no longer hold up jungleboyj's change, i think it's good to go20:17
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jungleboyjtbarron: Which one?20:17
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Port API types extra specs to Python 3
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Port API to Python 3
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Port API admin action tests to Python 3
tbarronjungleboyj: (duplicate register options)20:18
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jungleboyjtbarron: Oh, good.  Glad that can go in.20:19
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tbarronjungleboyj: diablo_rojo is too, as she needs it for the confg gen patch.20:24
openstackgerritAlon Marx proposed openstack/cinder: Updates in consistency_group in xiv/ds8k driver
diablo_rojotbarron: Yeah that'd be nice :)20:25
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openstackgerritAlessandro Pilotti proposed openstack/cinder: Port Windows drivers to Python 3
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Only use LOG.exception in exception handler
SwansonAnyway to get configuration opts for another backend?20:35
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aorourkeSwanson, config.Configuration(vendor_opts, config_group='group_name')20:38
aorourkeSwanson, have to from cinder.volume import configuration as config20:38
aorourkeSwanson, are you looking at replication stuff?20:38
aorourkebecause jgriffith has this patch that is going to change the way you managed replication is configured which will eliminate the need to do this.20:40
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Swansonaorourke, thanks!20:46
xyang1jungleboyj: hi20:48
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jungleboyjxyang1: Hi.20:49
xyang1jungleboyj: I was thinking about abandoning that one, but want to make sure Carl is ok before doing that:)20:49
xyang1jungleboyj: it is not a new feature, but it changes too much20:50
jungleboyjTHe stable/kilo one?20:50
xyang1jungleboyj: I am worried it could bring in regressions20:50
xyang1jungleboyj: yes20:50
jungleboyjYeah, made me concerned.20:50
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jungleboyjOk, let me know.20:50
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xyang1jungleboyj: do you know the kilo backport window?20:51
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xyang1jungleboyj: how much time do we have left20:51
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erick0zcr_Hi! I don't know why im getting this error OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lock/cinder'20:52
erick0zcr_] Permission denied... I've installed Kilo over Centos 7 and getting this when booting a machine. Actually when attaching the volume to a VM20:52
smcginnisxyang1, jungleboyj: I believe until the final Liberty cut, then it's restricted to security fixes only.20:52
smcginniserick0zcr_: Are you using the LVM driver for your backend?20:52
xyang1smcginnis: that means tomorrow?20:53
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Yes, that is what I heard?20:53
smcginnisxyang1: May end up being Friday or even this weekend. I think I heard they were waiting on one final project to cut.20:53
xyang1smcginnis: so it looks like no time for a patch that is not submitted yet20:53
smcginniserick0zcr_: Someone else had mentioned seeing that this morning.20:53
xyang1smcginnis: ok, thanks20:54
smcginniserick0zcr_: That's all I actually know about it, but it might not just be you.20:54
jgriffithsmcginnis: stupid manager locks20:54
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jgriffitherick0zcr_: what are the perms on that directory?20:54
jgriffitherick0zcr_: and owner20:55
smcginnisxyang1: Well, it's not cut yet, so it's still _possible_. Just can't really comment on how probable. :)20:55
erick0zcr_smcginnis: Was not me :(, the lock file does not even exist, and i don't know  where to look for20:55
xyang1smcginnis: sure, Thanks20:55
Swansonaorourke, so instead of grabbing the config from the remote backend I just simply set the info I need in my list of key/vals?20:55
jgriffitherick0zcr_: smcginnis
openstackLaunchpad bug 1449711 in OpenStack + Chef "[block-storage] lock_path of /var/lock/cinder fails on systemd platforms" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Mark Vanderwiel (vanderwl)20:56
erick0zcr_smcginnis: lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 11 Sep 23 19:53 /var/lock -> ../run/lock20:56
erick0zcr_drwxr-xr-x.  7 root     root      160 Oct 14 14:18 lock20:56
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jgriffitherick0zcr_: also along the same lines maybe bug 961557 in openstack-nova "Missing /var/lock/nova' Directory" [Unspecified,Closed: notabug] - Assigned to rhos-maint20:58
jgriffitherick0zcr_: so check your lock_path setting in /etc/cinder/cinder.conf... make sure it exists20:58
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erick0zcr_Ok ty, I'll check it out!21:01
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erick0zcr_There is a line in /etc/cinder/cinder.conf [oslo_concurrency]21:19
erick0zcr_lock_path = /var/lib/cinder/tmp/21:19
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erick0zcr_and the directory exists. Then I changed to /var/lock/cinder and i still getting the same error21:20
erick0zcr_also i've notice that there is no /var/lock/nova directory21:23
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tbarronerick0zcr_: so I have a fresh RDO packstack with kilo install and do not have lock_path configured in cinder.conf21:25
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tbarronerick0zcr_: it is using /var/lib/cinder/tmp and there are log messages indicating that21:26
tbarronoslo_concurrency.lock_path     = /var/lib/cinder/tmp21:26
tbarronThat directory exists and contains locks (that of course we want to get rid of, but that's another matter).21:27
tbarronthis is on CentOS Linux release 7.0.1406 (Core)21:28
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erick0zcr_I'm also using Centos 7.0, could be that the problem?21:29
tbarronso far no messages about '/var/lock/cinder' permissions.21:29
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tbarronerick0zcr_: dunno, I just installed this yesterday, so will be on the lookout.21:29
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tbarronerick0zcr_: maybe #RDO will know or the bugs jgriffith cited will tell the story21:30
tbarrongotta run ...21:30
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erick0zcr_I've changed the lock dir to /var/lib/cinder/tmp but getting that error21:32
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mriedemjgriffith: you want to do some head bashing?
jgriffithmriedem: sigh21:41
jgriffithaorourke: ^^21:43
jgriffithaorourke: please see my added comment (attached to my +2)21:43
mriedemjgriffith: thanks21:43
jgriffithaorourke: don't take it the wrong way... but there are some things that just don't warrant gumming up the works so to speak21:43
jgriffithaorourke: this has been an ongoing debate for a long time.. you're right WRT some of the guidelines21:44
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jgriffithaorourke: but we've kind of come to an agreement that it's more productive to add a *suggestion* via comment but that we don't down vote21:45
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hemnaouch yah that's as good as the -1's and comments for missing '.' in log messages22:01
hemnadrives me nuts22:01
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jgriffithsmcginnis: LOL22:13
jgriffithsmcginnis: "excessively long thread"22:13
jgriffithsmcginnis: that's putting it mildly :)22:13
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gman-txhi jgriffith can we chat on bug 150457722:27
openstackbug 1504577 in Cinder "volume type extra specs only returned for admin" [Undecided,New]
jgriffithgman-tx: DOH!22:28
jgriffithI meant to raise that in todays meeting!22:28
jgriffithBut we were sooo busy talking about Ireland, Greece and other geographically awesome places22:28
gman-txIreland sounds good22:29
jgriffithgman-tx: Indeed22:29
jgriffithgman-tx: so you had modified policy to make extra-specs viewable; is that correct?22:29
gman-txthat is correct22:29
jgriffithgman-tx: and now since I moved that check into the DB I kinda hosed ya22:30
gman-txcan we just move the policy check in the db?22:30
jgriffithgman-tx: nah22:31
jgriffithgman-tx: only place we check policy is at openstack.api layer22:32
jgriffithgman-tx: but...22:32
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jgriffithgman-tx: what we could do *maybe* is elevate the context based on policy22:32
jgriffithso it behaves the same for you22:32
gman-txah so elevate to admin on the db call based on policy22:33
openstackgerritYusuke Hayashi proposed openstack/cinder: Add Fujitsu ETERNUS DX Volume Driver (again)
jgriffithgman-tx: yeah22:33
jgriffithI *think* that would work and should be safe "ish"22:34
gman-txhmm can you define "ish"?22:34
jgriffithLOL.. no22:34
jgriffiththat's why I use that suffix :)22:34
jgriffithprecisely so I don't have to do such things :)22:34
jgriffithgman-tx: so... actually yeah this should be fine I think22:35
jgriffithgman-tx: so I think we can elevate index and show... which would in effect fix it I believe22:36
jgriffithgman-tx: what I'm trying to figure out...22:36
jgriffithgman-tx: hmmm22:36
jgriffithgman-tx: so actually in your case an end user can do all of the operations22:36
jgriffithgman-tx: create, modify etc etc22:36
gman-txnot update or create22:36
jgriffithgman-tx: no?22:36
jgriffithhmm... how is that working22:37
jgriffithgman-tx: well the good news is we can reinstate the behavior pretty easy I think22:38
jgriffithgman-tx: the bad news is I kinda hate how that code works22:38
jgriffithgman-tx: it's going straight to the db, which is why things broke for you22:38
jgriffithgman-tx: and means that patch is hacky/ugly22:38
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gman-txwell is there a better way to do this?22:38
jgriffithgman-tx: unless we just fix it all up to go through the appropriate API layer22:39
jgriffithgman-tx: well.. I *think* that at the very least that call should be going through interface22:40
jgriffithgman-tx: rather than going directly to the DB22:40
jgriffithgman-tx: that doesn't solve your bug... just an observation22:40
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gman-txhave to admit that was confusing me22:41
jgriffithgman-tx: sorry... I have that effect :)22:41
erick0zcr_OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lock/cinder'..... Now I can attach volumes to VMs and creating them via the dashboard without problems. I've just created the /var/lock/cinder directory and set the lock=path=/var/lock/cinder. If someone have the same issue. Openstack Kilo on Centos 7. And thank you for the hints and the support, have a22:41
erick0zcr_nice day!22:41
jgriffithgman-tx: LOL22:42
jgriffithgman-tx: so actually... that might fix your problem as well22:42
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jgriffithgman-tx: notice that we elevate the context22:43
jgriffithgman-tx: which makes sense22:43
jgriffithgman-tx: because we're making an assumption that the policy check was done prior to getting here22:44
jgriffithgman-tx: which is how it's designed to work...22:44
jgriffithgman-tx: otherwise we assume it's an internal call and it's copacetic22:44
jgriffithgman-tx: so yeah... I think all we need to do is modify the show and list22:45
jgriffithgman-tx: don't know if you want me to assign that to myself, or if you want to work it up?22:46
gman-txi can take it22:46
jgriffithgman-tx: but either way, we can fix it up... then propose backport22:46
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jgriffithgman-tx: cool22:46
* jgriffith doesn't have to write any code any more22:46
* jgriffith he just talks about it22:46
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jgriffithgman-tx: no problem... I added a short story to the bug to recap what we discussed22:50
jgriffithI'll let you assign yourself22:50
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pv_quick question, i have 2 backends enabled in my devstack local.conf and when i try to create a volume with the second volume type (which is not the default volume type) i get an error status almost immediately23:01
pv_and in my c-sch log it shows up as ERROR cinder.scheduler.flows.create_volume [^[[01;36mreq-33f6ec1f-8eb7-468b-941a-2a74ffa248d1 ^[[00;36m29729eed326647babc75bb8809aa7643 c326bd67cc6e4b418d88e6ff60f9e062^[[01;31m] ^[[01;35m^[[01;31mFailed to run task cinder.scheduler.flows.create_volume.ScheduleCreateVolumeTask;volume:create: No valid host was found. No weighed hosts available^23:01
pv_that volume-type shows up when i do a cinder type-list so im not exactly sure what the error means23:02
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jgriffithpv_: do you have extra-specs assigned to said volume-type?23:08
aorourkejgriffith, I understand. I wasn't aware that was not enforced.23:08
jgriffithaorourke: no worries23:08
pv_no i dont, do you want to take a look at my conf file?23:08
jgriffithand a type-list and an extra-specs-list23:09
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pv_ thats how it looks currently23:12
pv_ok i will one sec23:12
pv_i do type-list and the second type shows up23:12
pv_let me check extra-specs-list23:12
pv_yeah the second type shows up23:13
pv_in extra specs it has {'volume_backend_name':'Type2'} under extra_specs23:13
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jgriffithwhat's the cinder.conf actually turn out like?23:14
jgriffithYou scrubbing info out of these?23:15
pv_hahaha yeah it has my company name in it23:15
pv_so i cant add it lol23:15
pv_well in cinder.conf default_volume_type is Type1 and enabled_backends shows both Type1 and Type223:16
* jgriffith hates secrets23:16
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jgriffithpv_: so if you specify type and get "no host found" that usually means there's something in your extra-specs that can't be satisfied23:17
jgriffithpv_: could be the backen-name is wrong23:17
pv_could it be that in the get_volume_stats method the second volume type isnt listed as one of the volume_backend_name?23:18
pv_because i just got an error when changing the default backend name but not changing it in that method23:18
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jgriffithpv_: I don't know since I don't know anything about your driver/backend, your config file or what extra-specs you have :)23:19
pv_hahahaha i see why you hate secrets23:20
jgriffithpv_: I could guess any number of things, but I'd likely be wasting my time23:20
pv_alright thanks anyways, i'23:20
pv_i'll keep trying at it23:20
patrickeastpv_: might i suggest taking a look through if you haven't already23:20
jgriffithpatrickeast: ohhh... yeah, +1billion-trillion-zillion23:20
patrickeastit explains a little bit of the volume type stuff23:20
pv_you'll know soon enough, we eventually have to release our name and stuff before trying to submit our driver... but that may be after im long gone seeing as im an intern haha23:20
pv_thanks i23:21
pv_i'll definitely take a look23:21
jgriffithpv_: Nice!  Intern getting to work on OpenStack!! That's awesome!23:21
jgriffithpv_: Put that on your resume when you graduate you'll be in high demand23:21
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pv_haha I know, i had little to no clue what all of this was, but when I found out that my project involved openstack cinder my dad told me to jump on it! glad i did, learned a lot :)23:22
patrickeastpv_: i also vaguely recall an issue with CINDER_ENABLED_BACKENDS where you may need to specify them like <someString>:Type1,<someString>:Type2 to get the default types and stuff created correctly by the devstack scripts (unless that changed at some point)23:22
jgriffithpv_: aweosome!23:22
pv_and not just working on openstack, im the only one here working on openstack stuff :D23:22
pv_its been a really good experience23:22
pv_ohhh that may make sense, i'll check the formatting in local.conf23:23
jgriffithpatrickeast: that's correct to get the types created by devstack (local.conf)23:23
jgriffithpv_: patrickeast personally I find it almost easier to just modify cinder.conf by hand after devstack finished and tweak things that way23:23
patrickeastif the backend has a devstack plugin then the name and plugin script should match, but for like pure storage we just have to put *something* in there23:23
patrickeastjgriffith: haha yea i find myself doing that a lot23:24
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pv_i think that may be the problem, im not sure what you mean by <someString>23:26
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harlowjazigo gpg keys to keyserver , hmmm sure, guess i can figure out that23:26
patrickeastlike for mine i usually just have 'pure:pure-backend-1'23:26
pv_because right now i just put CINDER_ENABLED_BACKENDS=Type1,Type223:26
harlowjascottda i guess will be a part of that DLM session23:26
harlowjaidk how much it will be me reading the spec though :(23:26
patrickeastit doesn't really matter as long as it doesn't match a file name that gets picked up by
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harlowjaif people don't read it ahead of time, it will be sorta a josh-reads-a-story session23:26
pv_alright let me see if that works23:26
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thingeehogepodge: besides the whitespace, the latest patch set looks good for scoring matrix.23:30
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hogepodgethingee: +123:35
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openstackgerritAnthony Lee proposed openstack/os-brick: Adding a tool that allows querying of LUNs
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jgriffithpatrickeast: still about?23:46
patrickeastjgriffith: yep23:46
jgriffithpatrickeast: hey.. wondering if you could help me with something :)23:46
patrickeastjgriffith: sure, whats up?23:46
jgriffithpatrickeast: so I have my stats report returning "replication_enabled = True"23:47
jgriffithpatrickeast: I was using strings, but that was rejected to use bools and the <is> False/True23:47
jgriffithpatrickeast: problem is that now for the life of me I can't figure out the proper syntax in my extra-specs and stats reporting to make that work :(23:48
patrickeastjgriffith: i'm not 100% sure which thing you mean for using strings, but if you are reporting back a bool in the dictionary for stats shouldn't the extra spec still just be like "<is>True"23:50
* patrickeast checks what we had been using to test ours23:51
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jgriffithpatrickeast: yeah... I seem to be doing something wrong though23:55
jgriffithpatrickeast: actually, let me simplify it and test just *that*23:55
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jgriffithpatrickeast: no dice :(23:59
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jgriffithso I have this:  23d1c57f-dddb-4a8b-94da-6963b044d5cc |    test    |                                               {u'replication_enabled': u'<is> True'}23:59

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