Thursday, 2015-10-15

patrickeastoh uh try "capabilities:replication_enabled"00:00
patrickeastthe <is> True should be good00:00
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patrickeastthats the only difference in our test setup00:00
jgriffithand in my stats report I do " data['replication_enabled] = True "00:01
jgriffithhmm... well thats annoying00:01
patrickeastyea we do that too00:02
patrickeast"replication_enabled": self._is_replication_enabled,00:02
jgriffithpatrickeast: dang00:02
openstackgerritAnthony Lee proposed openstack/os-brick: Adding a tool that allows querying of LUNs
patrickeastbut it appears the 'capabilities:' thing is required ?00:03
jgriffithOh well... I'm going to take a break from it00:03
* patrickeast doesn't really know what thats for00:03
jgriffiththanks for looking00:03
jgriffithoh.. no, the capabilities things shouldn't be00:03
jgriffiththat's a scoped key00:03
patrickeast:o orly?00:03
jgriffithit should just work without scoping as long as the item is in the stats00:03
jgriffithpatrickeast: thats how I've always been doing it :)00:03
jgriffithpatrickeast: but aorourkeafk informed me that I'm wrong :)00:04
jgriffithwho knew... after all these years :)00:04
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements
jgriffithpatrickeast: of course, all I know is "my way worked" and "his way doesn't" LOL00:04
jgriffithOh well, I'll pick it back up later00:06
jgriffiththanks again00:06
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openstackgerritFergal Mc Carthy proposed openstack/cinder: All Cinder LVM operations run with LVM_SYSTEM_DIR
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jgriffithpatrickeast: got it00:21
patrickeastjgriffith: whats the trick?00:21
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jgriffithpatrickeast: making sure the stats update propogated :)00:21
jgriffithpatrickeast: and that I wasn't being a dumb-ass and hiding the setting behind an if statement that would never be true :)00:22
jgriffithpatrickeast: I used " replication_enabled="<is> True" "00:22
jgriffithpatrickeast: no scoping.. FWIW00:22
patrickeastjgriffith: sweet, glad to hear it wasn't anything weird with the scheduler or something00:23
jgriffithpatrickeast: you and I both :)00:24
patrickeastjgriffith: and yea i went poking around and found this
patrickeastso we just ignore the capabilites: scope i guess00:24
jgriffithpatrickeast: ahh... "either or"00:24
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openstackgerritYusuke Hayashi proposed openstack/cinder: Case sensitivity problem in cinder scheduler
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Implement update_migrated_volume for NFS driver
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openstackgerritGiridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/cinder: VMware: Log exception when exceeding quota
openstackgerritGiridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/cinder: Log exception when exceeding quota
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openstackgerritPatrick East proposed openstack/os-brick: Wait for FC multipath devices to become writable
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Remove the jointly loaded model in finish_volume_migration
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Update the devref for volume migration
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zigoharlowja: gpg --send-keys --keyserver <key-id>06:56
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rajesht_dulek: hi07:17
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rajesht_dulek: you around ??07:17
dulekrajesht_: Yup, for a moment.07:26
rajesht_dulek: just saw your bp about online schema change in cinder07:27
dulekrajesht_: Right, I've discussed with dansmith and adopting Nova's online schema upgrades isn't actually the best  idea.07:28
dulekrajesht_: Their solution is still experimental.07:28
rajesht_dulek: just a question, are you working on keystone and glance as well for online schema changes  ??07:28
dulekrajesht_: No, just Cinder. I'm also not aware of anyone making such efforts in these  projects.07:29
rajesht_dulek: ok thanks, btw do you remember me ??07:29
rajesht_dulek: I have shared create_volume persistence POC code with you07:30
dulekrajesht_: If you're into this topic - you should read
rajesht_dulek: thnx for link :)07:30
dulekrajesht_: Ah, right. Hi! :) (scrum meeting, I'll be there in a few minutes)07:30
rajesht_dulek: anyways, thnx for your time :) bbye07:30
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openstackgerritSilvan Kaiser proposed openstack/cinder: Support insecure NAS security options in Quobyte
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vincent_hougeguileor: available here?08:18
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dulekgeguileo: ^08:24
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geguileorI'm at a conference, so I'm connected using my phone08:28
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openstackgerritVincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder: Update the devref for volume migration
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openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/cinder: VMware: Relocate volume only during no disk space
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: improve readme contents
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openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/cinder: VMware: Relocate volume only during no disk space
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dulekgeguileo: My thoughts on idea, right now I'm not seeing clear benefits from this approach.10:57
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openstackgerritLukas Bezdicka proposed openstack/os-brick: Remove brackets from portal
openstackgerritMarian Horban proposed openstack/cinder: Remove wsgi functionality
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DuncanTdulek: Given you need to lock / reserve anyway, not seeing any massive advantages over random / round robin of requests. Maybe a bit less blocking on locks due to things queuing on the same node on average?12:03
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Merge tag '7.0.0'
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dulekDuncanT: Probably even not - we're trying to prevent concurrent operations on a resource on an API level (atomic state changes).12:23
dulekDuncanT: And if we're engineering a solution to handle c-vol failures - then this introduces problems.12:24
DuncanTdulek: So the only advantage of the hash ring would be that concurrent operations tend to end up on the same worker node, so you can queue them without taking a global lock and blocking on it12:24
DuncanTdulek: You still have to lock, but you shouldn't get lock contention except around node failure time when the rink is recalculated12:25
dulekDuncanT: Right - on failure it's possible that rebalancing of one c-vol is triggered before the other, and two c-vols may be mapped to one resource.12:26
dulekDuncanT: Probably the queue-per-volume would be cool - if something dies a request stays in the queue until rebalancing hits in and something else takes it.12:26
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openstackgerritDavid Sariel proposed openstack/cinder: Removing code duplications in sqlalchemy/migrate_repo
DuncanTdulek. The queue-volume-ops-in-the-db idea is something I'm working on a design for. There are gremlins though12:27
DuncanTdulek: Looks like it should be possible to make it work though12:27
dulekDuncanT: Still we have weird situations - i.e node is unable to connect to RabbitMQ, but is able to bump up the heartbeat.12:27
dulekDuncanT: Ah… How your idea handles c-vol fails?12:28
DuncanTdulek: That's still ok, the work will sit in the queue and we can sweep periodically for stuck work12:28
DuncanTdulek: The work in progress at the time of the failure is still a hard problem, but I think it always will be. Some operations can be made idempotent (delete, detach, others)12:28
dulekDuncanT: You're unable to tell if work is stuck or takes a long time.12:29
DuncanTdulek: That's an issue with any solution except maybe pacemaker12:29
dulekDuncanT: Ah, you're probably right - everything may be vulnerable for partitions, even ZooKeeper based stuff.12:30
DuncanTdulek: You can't beat CAP theorem12:31
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dulekDuncanT: I'm always a little reluctant to throw problems into this-cannot-be-done-due-to-CAP-theorem bag, but for that it seems reasonable.12:32
DuncanTdulek: If you can fence, then you just set a max time for an operation, and if that is overrun you kill the service, retry somewhere else and error after a small number of retrys12:33
DuncanTdulek: We don't have strong fencing though12:33
DuncanTdulek: i.e. it can be done, but not with the infrastructure we have12:33
DuncanTdulek: Detecting the (possibly) hung node and sending all future work to a different node, plus alert the admin, is probably the best we can manage in the short term12:34
dulekDuncanT: I don't think fencing should be done on Cinder's side. The only reliable way to fence is to shut a node down using IPMI.12:34
dulekDuncanT: Yeah, you're right.12:34
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dulekDuncanT: I think right now it's important to focus on Gorka's atomic state transitions.12:37
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dulekDuncanT: We have Design Summit session on manager locks, so this will probably come up there also.12:38
DuncanTdulek: The proposed cluster attribute (or whatever we rename it to) rather than overloading the host field is an important and stand-alone piece of the puzzle too12:38
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dulekDuncanT: Uhm, it is stand-alone, yes. I for it, as I've expressed in review.12:39
dulekDuncanT: And BTW - how's your spec on AZs?12:39
DuncanTdulek: Oh yes, I need to push the latest version on that, thanks for the reminder. I'll do it as soon as I get home12:40
dulekDuncanT: Great, I'm looking forward to get to understand your point of view. :)12:41
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dulekDuncanT: Oh, and this queue-volume-ops-in-the-db, is it possible you've outline the idea somewhere, so whole team will be on the same page?12:44
DuncanTdulek: I've not outlined it, I will write something up now. I was hoping to have working code, since not all of the ideas worked out in practice12:45
dulekDuncanT: Even without code I think it's beneficial for the idea to have more eyes on it. :)12:45
DuncanTdulek: Yeah, you're right. I just haven't coded anything major in cinder for a while :-)12:46
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dulekDuncanT: I definitely understand what you feel! ;)12:46
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openstackgerritLukas Bezdicka proposed openstack/os-brick: Remove brackets from portal
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kevincarr1991has anyone had the issue of /var/lock/cinder disappearing after reboot? Were you able to fix it?13:59
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eharneykevincarr1991: i think it's normal for that to be removed after reboot, and you should configure cinder to use lock_path=/var/lib/cinder/lock instead14:02
kevincarr1991eharney: OK, do I just make that change in the cinder.conf file?14:02
eharneykevincarr1991: yes14:02
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kevincarr1991eharney: I will give that a shot and see if it works for me.14:05
kevincarr1991eharney: should the directory be automatically created on boot or do I have to manually create it?14:07
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eharneykevincarr1991: iirc, Cinder will create the dir.  it probably doesn't for /var/lock/ because the cinder user doesn't have permission to14:12
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kevincarr1991eharney: awesome that worked for me thank you eharney14:23
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eharneyglad to hear it14:24
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Fix typo in LIO terminate_connection error msg
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smcginnisReminder - everyone interested in participating in the midcycle, please provide feedback here:14:48
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: LIO: Let delete_initiator succeed if iqn not found
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jgriffithavishay: don't leave yet.. the summit isn't for a couple more weeks :)15:27
jgriffithavishay: seriously though... that's awesome news15:27
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jgriffithguess I'm not funny15:29
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jgriffithhemna: thanks for slapping me upside the head15:35
jgriffithhemna: mep... slang for "slapping somebody in the back of the head for saying something dramatically stupid"15:37
jgriffithhemna: I read it on the internet15:37
hemnamy 'mep' is from the old oddtodd skits15:38
* jgriffith has to google various slang on IRC sometimes :(15:38
smcginnishemna: Loved those. :)15:38
hemnayah, they are classics15:38
jgriffithI COMPLETELY forgot about those15:38
hemnagetting some coffay15:38
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hemnafor those that don't know the oddtodd.
hemnawas big during the .com bust15:39
jgriffith"The thought about volunteering... made me feel better about not volunteering" :)15:40
patrickeastasselin: ping15:40
patrickeasthemna: or maybe you know this...15:40
patrickeastit doesn't look like my stupid ci is actually testing os-brick changes correctly : /15:40
patrickeastdo you remember where we documented the "right" way to do it?15:41
patrickeasti swear this was working at some point... not sure what happened15:41
hemnaI think asselin might have started it, but didn't know where it was15:41
patrickeasti've got export DEVSTACK_PROJECT_FROM_GIT='os-brick' set15:42
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patrickeastand looks like it *is* pulling it from git
patrickeastbuut that log is missing the new logging output that should be in my patch
patrickeast(and the bug still occurs)15:43
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patrickeastso its not pulling the review commit from git15:43
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asselin__patrickeast, hi...need to go now, but I'll be back in 1-1.5 hours15:45
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patrickeastasselin__: ok cool, i'll see if i can figure out whats missing... i'll bug you later if its still borked15:45
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Add qos_specs_id to volume type show
asselin__patrickeast, double check you pip freeze output15:45
asselin__and you setup workspace output15:45
asselin__also devstack log should have something related to osbrick15:46
patrickeastyah so the one in the freeze: -e git+
patrickeastis the current master15:47
hemnaI'm not sure I see where it's cloning from brick and pulling the patch15:47
patrickeastnot the patch up for review15:47
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patrickeasthemna: looks like it pulls it here
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hemnayah from master15:49
patrickeastshit so what did i change... or maybe this was never working15:50
* hemna checks a 3par log15:50
smcginnispatrickeast: Wouldn't it pull from master but not a specific changeset. Isn't that what you are trying to do?15:50
hemnasmcginnis, no15:50
patrickeastsmcginnis: it should be pulling the patch up for review15:50
hemnasmcginnis, this is an os-brick patch itself that needs testing15:51
smcginnisHow does it know which patch to pull?15:51
patrickeastzuul magic15:51
* patrickeast is looking for what variable it sets15:51
smcginnisMy understanding is DEVSTACK_PROJECT_FROM_GIT='os-brick' would pull from master instead of the released library.15:52
patrickeastsmcginnis: yep, thats correct15:52
patrickeastsmcginnis: but as it turns out not really what we want15:52
hemnayah this is shite15:52
hemnait's only pulling master :(15:52
smcginnispatrickeast: Right. I don't know a way to get it to grab a specific patchset. Unless you manually script a cherry pick maybe?15:52
patrickeastwell i mean... its what the cinder CI's are doing15:53
avishayjgriffith: :D15:53
patrickeastlemmie go look at one of those and see where its getting cinder from15:53
patrickeastor i guess the gate should be doing the right thing too15:53
jordanPjgriffith, I am stuck on I left some comments there. I think it's less important that what I thought initialy15:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1495560 in Cinder "lvm deactivate race in snapshot extend" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Jordan Pittier (jordan-pittier)15:54
avishayjgriffith: finding a hotel at the last minute was not fun, but i'm all need to find the right evening events :)15:54
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DuncanTavishay: If you find anything other than the HP party, please let me know15:54
avishayDuncanT: is there a core reviewer party or no more?15:55
hemnapatrickeast, I thought for sure we had this working15:55
smcginnisCore party Tuesday, HP party Wednesday.15:55
hemnaat least at one point it was afaik15:55
patrickeasthemna: ehh wait a second
smcginnisCinder party Monday, Thursday, and Friday. :)15:55
patrickeasthemna: it said it was cloning master, but the HEAD -1 log is for the review patchset?15:55
DuncanTavishay: There is a core party, yes15:56
hemnawinston-d, ping15:56
hemnaavishay, can be my +1 :P15:56
avishayhemna: woohoo :)15:56
hemnapatrickeast, so there must be something missing in what we are passing in15:58
jungleboyjhemna: Does that mean that I need to take kmartin_ as my +1?15:58
patrickeasthemna: yea, must be15:58
avishayjungleboyj: hopefully the ride there will be in itty bitty cars15:58
hemnaI don't see it there15:59
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jungleboyjavishay: :-)  Oh that was an experience.15:59
kmartin_jungleboyj, I already have a date...thank you very much15:59
jungleboyjkmartin_: :-(15:59
avishayshot down...16:00
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jungleboyjavishay: Sadly not the first time.16:00
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kmartin_jungleboyj had the best date in Paris16:01
avishaycity of bromance16:01
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jungleboyjkmartin_: :-)  Not that you are biased or anything.16:02
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patrickeasthemna: mm yea so i must just be missing something in my config, definitely looks like it *should* just do the right thing there16:03
hemnayah we are both missing it I think16:03
hemnaour CI is doing the same thing16:03
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hemnabut the gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-os-brick test has it16:03
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patrickeasthmm thats strange16:09
* hemna is confused16:09
* patrickeast found a clue16:10
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avishaytime to go home, bye all, have a great weekend16:11
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patrickeasthemna: sooo i think that might be from around here
patrickeasthemna: which kind of makes sense... it tries to use the zuul supplied version, if it cant it just uses master16:13
hemnaif it failed to pull the ref, then it uses master16:13
patrickeasti wonder what happened to my zuul then : /16:13
patrickeastohh shit16:16
patrickeastok so the ZUUL_URL being passed in to jenkins as a parameter from zuul is the address16:16
patrickeastbut thats only going to work for VM's in the same private network as my jenkins-master vm16:17
hemnais that the ip of your nodepool box ?16:17
patrickeastits the ip of the nodepool/jenkins/zuul master vm16:17
patrickeastwhich is on a different box than *some* of my FC nodes16:17
patrickeastso it would actually work for VM's on the same 'cloud'16:17
patrickeastmm yea that gets set in the zuul.conf16:20
patrickeastso i think if i change that to the floating ip or dns name it should fix it16:20
patrickeastugh so that means 2/3 of my FC VM's would have been silently falling back to master and not testing what was up for review16:24
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hemnapatrickeast, so it looks like our CI is running against the os-brick patches16:41
patrickeasthemna: yep, its working correctly for yours, you can see it pulling the patch from zuul-merger
patrickeasti changed my config... it *should* work now for mine16:45
patrickeastshould work all the time now16:45
patrickeastinstead of randomly depending on which initiator the vm go scheduled on by nodepool : /16:46
hemnaif [ "$BRANCH_OVERRIDE" != "default" ] ; then16:46
hemnawe have that in our sauce16:46
hemnain the jenkins job def16:46
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hemnaI don't think this could possibly be more complicated16:47
hemnaand impossible to manage16:47
patrickeasti totally could be16:48
patrickeastbut not by much16:48
hemnawell, it could be Java16:48
hemnaso yah, it could be worse16:48
patrickeastso yah, heres one from a vm that was on the 'right' initiator
patrickeastit could reach the zuul-merger url, and everything went great16:48
patrickeastso all my iscsi jobs were doing the right thing16:48
patrickeastand 1/3ish FC worked16:49
hemna1/3rd CI!16:49
patrickeastjust spot checkin'16:49
patrickeastalmost continuous integration16:49
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hemnaand with that I think our HBA's just dropped a deuce16:50
patrickeastdidn't you have a patch up that fixed that?16:51
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hemnaport_state          = "Linkdown"16:51
hemnayah I have that one up16:51
hemnaI'm not sure it fixes anything though.16:51
hemnaneed to figure out how to plug that into the normal CI stream16:52
patrickeastwell.. might as well get it in anyway16:52
patrickeastwhat do you mean?16:52
hemnathird-party-ci-tools is moving this weekend as well no?16:52
patrickeastuhh maybe...16:53
* patrickeast goes to check the email16:53
patrickeasti forget when, but yea at some point it is16:53
smcginnisYeah, that's stackforge.16:53
smcginnisMy understanding is all of them are moving.16:53
hemnasmcginnis, that's what I heard as well16:54
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/cinder: Port Windows drivers to Python 3
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asselinpatrickeast, I'm back now....did you figure it out? haven't read scrollback17:03
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patrickeastasselin: heh yea, the tl:dr is that the zuul_url was a private ip of my jenkins master, so any nodepool nodes on different 'clouds' couldn't download the ref from zuul-merger17:04
patrickeastasselin: and in its infinite wisdom devstack-gate is totally ok with it and just falls back to master17:04
asselinpatrickeast, has a priority mechanism...master is the last resort.....17:05
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patrickeastasselin: so the trick is to override the zuul_url in my zuul.conf and set it to the dns name for the vm that resolves to the floating ip17:07
patrickeastasselin: i still need to go figure out where (or it I can) override it in my config pre-puppet stuff, but for now i've got a temporary fix17:08
asselinpatrickeast, yea....we set it to the public ip17:08
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patrickeastasselin: perfect, thanks!17:10
patrickeastasselin: somewhat related... probably early next week i'm going to go update our system to go all the way over to the upstream ci scripts17:11
asselinpatrickeast, cool!17:11
patrickeastasselin: we kind of went half-way with the first part of the project-config stuff, finally have some time to finish it17:12
asselinpatrickeast, yes the new solution is fully project-config & heira.17:12
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asselinpatrickeast, docs are here:
* asselin needs to find time to update it17:13
patrickeasti'll review em as i go ;)17:14
asselinbut should be good enough for someone who's got something similar as well17:14
asselincool, thanks17:14
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (managed)
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patrickeasthemna: asselin: so switching the address for zuul_url worked17:39
asselinnice :)17:39
patrickeastmm even better the permission 'fix' is working
patrickeastcaught one with some RO block devices for dm-3, and after a multipath -r and short sleep it goes away17:42
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geguileodulek: I'll have a look at the Etherpad over the weekend (tomorrow I'll be at a conference)18:01
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openstackgerritPatrick East proposed openstack/os-brick: Wait for FC multipath devices to become writable
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smcginnisStill working on release notes:
smcginnisIf anyone knows of any upgrade implications or other relevant changes, please add to the etherpad.18:33
smcginnisOtherwise I will take what we have there and skim the merged list of reviews.18:34
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hemnapatrickeast, my test CI is starting to report18:43
hemnano errors18:43
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hemnapatrickeast,  that's an FC volume18:44
patrickeastso far so good18:44
patrickeasthow many paths do you have?18:45
hemnajust 118:45
hemnaall I did was enable multipath18:45
hemnadidn't change anything else18:45
hemnamaybe it doesn't happen if the daemon knows it doesn't have to deal w/ failover ?18:45
hemnaso it just enables it right away ?18:45
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hemnaI might be able to test iSCSI easier18:46
hemnaenabling FC multipath w/ multiple paths will take a bit more effort18:46
hemnajust because of the HBA issues18:46
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patrickeastyea its a huge pain18:48
patrickeastfwiw though in my system our multipath iscsi has never hit this problem18:48
patrickeastthe only iscsi i've seen do it is in the gate18:48
patrickeastits possible though they are different problems too18:48
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patrickeasti also got my hands on another flash array (different hardware model, and different software version)18:49
patrickeaststill repros there too18:49
patrickeastwanted to make sure it wasn't something this array or fc switch were doing weird18:50
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openstackgerritMichael Price proposed openstack/cinder: NetApp: Fix issue with updating E-Series password
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Add Mitaka specs to doc index
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: CG driver function should not access db
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smcginnisLiberty has left the building.19:45
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (unmanaged)
SwansonFirst bug in yet?19:46
hemnasmcginnis, w00t!19:46
smcginnisHah, no. But several backports already in the queue.19:46
smcginnishemna: The separation of os-brick happened in kilo, right? That wasn't liberty?19:49
hemnafor Cinder yah19:49
Swansonfor nova, no?19:49
hemnaNova is Liberty19:49
xyang1smcginnis: so backport to Liberty is allowed now?19:50
SwansonNo slogans here.19:50
smcginnisOK, that's what I thought. Just thought I saw something that implied it didn't make it in Kilo. Couldn't remember clearly. Thanks!19:50
smcginnisxyang1: It should be. I know Thierry will have to come back and remove the -2's he put on things though.19:51
hemnapatrickeast, ok, so all of my 3par tests passed enabling multipath19:51
smcginnisxyang1: I'm sure he's working through that.19:51
xyang1smcginnis: ok, thanks19:51
hemnaverified the logs are using the mpath device for everything19:51
* hemna scratches head19:51
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (managed)
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (unmanaged)
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patrickeasthemna: hmm thats weird20:39
patrickeasthemna: well, good... but weird ;)20:39
patrickeasthemna: maybe having more paths causes issues? we give 2 hba's to each vm20:40
patrickeasthemna: or the hba type?20:40
hemnapatrickeast, I'm trying to do iSCSI multipath at least now.   FC is going to be much harder20:40
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openstackgerritSlade Baumann proposed openstack/cinder: Add common config options to san
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements
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