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| openstackgerrit | Nate Potter proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Implement cinder free command [WIP] https://review.openstack.org/301445 | 05:24 |
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| swamireddy | DuncanT: Hi | 09:54 |
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| sborkows | mtanino_: Hi, I am currently working on cleaning the code of volume manager and its tests from older version compatibility and I got stuck at volume migration. Can you please explain me how the volume swap works, I mean, the starting state of old and new volumes and their final state? | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/cinder: Enable str2size() to handle long int for i386 https://review.openstack.org/301326 | 11:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/cinder: Allow host and instance_uuid at attach https://review.openstack.org/300684 | 12:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/301459 | 12:27 |
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| scottda | geguileo: Hi | 12:40 |
| geguileo | scottda: Hi | 12:41 |
| scottda | I have a question regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300028/5 | 12:41 |
| scottda | Do we want to run identical tests in cinderclient for v2 and v3? | 12:41 |
| scottda | For the server, we just figured we'd test newly added stuff, and not re-test everything. But, of course, server tests take much longer. | 12:42 |
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| geguileo | scottda: Right now I don't think we need to test everything | 12:43 |
| geguileo | scottda: But as soon as we start adding things we should check everything, so... | 12:44 |
| geguileo | scottda: I'm just affraid that later on we'll forget to test old stuff in v3 | 12:44 |
| geguileo | scottda: And we'll end up with bugs | 12:44 |
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| scottda | geguileo: Yes, that makes sense. I'm in favour of figuring out the best way to do this, I'm just not sure what it is. | 12:45 |
| geguileo | scottda: But for that patch I think we can just have the sanity check | 12:45 |
| scottda | OK, I'll post something to address the bug you found (need to change '2' -> '3') and we can see what you think. Thanks. | 12:46 |
| geguileo | scottda: I think that will probably be enought for now | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhangsong proposed openstack/cinder: Sheepdog:make full use of all sheepdog nodes https://review.openstack.org/296220 | 13:09 |
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| scottda | geguileo: Thanks. New patch is up | 13:15 |
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| baumann | smcginnis: I've never felt better than in this moment | 13:39 |
| baumann | smcginnis: Because I wasn't intentionally banned from Cinder. Just accidentally ;) | 13:40 |
| smcginnis | baumann: I am staying away from the keyboard for a moment. Dang! | 13:40 |
| smcginnis | Not trying that again! | 13:40 |
| baumann | What were you attempting? | 13:40 |
| smcginnis | Just to see if there was a list of banned users. | 13:41 |
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| smcginnis | Random web site said "run this command". Can't trust the internets. | 13:41 |
| baumann | HAHA | 13:41 |
| baumann | For real? | 13:41 |
| baumann | If this was April 1st, I would have applauded you | 13:41 |
| rlrossit | I thought smcginnis was feeling particularly mean this morning | 13:41 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 13:42 |
| rlrossit | but it isn't monday so... no excuses! | 13:42 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 13:42 |
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| rlrossit | smcginnis: now that it looks like you unbanned everyone, I'm gonna go make a few spambots quick... | 13:43 |
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| smcginnis | rlrossit: Hah, troublemaker. ;) | 13:43 |
| smcginnis | With great power comes great ability to screw up. :] | 13:44 |
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| rlrossit | join_channel('#openstack-cinder'); echo('Cinder sux. Nova is greatest') | 13:44 |
| rlrossit | put all that in while(True) | 13:44 |
| smcginnis | Oh man, don't give anyone any ideas!! | 13:44 |
| rlrossit | it's not spam if it's true :P :P | 13:45 |
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| smcginnis | rlrossit: :P | 13:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/os-brick: LVM: Call supports_thin_provisioning as static https://review.openstack.org/301280 | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Meade proposed openstack/cinder: User messages API for error cases https://review.openstack.org/298052 | 14:32 |
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| xinli | caosf.fnst: I add my comment in code test_volume.py for bug 1565653. | 15:15 |
| openstack | bug 1565653 in Cinder "invalid error message for "cinder create --image"" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1565653 - Assigned to Cao ShuFeng (caosf-fnst) | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/300758 | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan McNair proposed openstack/cinder: Add functional tests for nested quotas https://review.openstack.org/298453 | 16:41 |
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| thingee | ildikov: to avoid all projects creating some project to project meeting, ttx and I decided that cinder-nova api interactions would not fit what we had in mind for #openstack-meeting-cp. I have posted a review about this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301822/ and happy to hear what others think. | 16:47 |
| thingee | ildikov: also thanks for waiting, was coming back from a small not really vacation :) | 16:48 |
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| ildikov | thingee: thanks for checking it, I hoped we can use that channel to encourage more cross-project interactions, but I understand your point as well | 16:53 |
| ildikov | thingee: if we run meetings there in a non-registered manner that still works? | 16:53 |
| ildikov | thingee: I hope you had some rest and/or fun too if you mention the word vacation :) | 16:54 |
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| hemna | if anyone has some time today to test something out before we merge it? the privsep patch for os-brick needs some more folks to hit it. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277224/ | 17:05 |
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| patrickeast | hemna: i'll try and take a look at it over the next couple of days, am traveling so might be hit or miss | 17:14 |
| hemna | patrickeast, ok. I'd just like others to play with it | 17:15 |
| patrickeast | hemna: sucks that the cross project dependency doesn't work on the 3rd party ci's :( | 17:15 |
| hemna | patrickeast, I tried kicking off CI runs against it again for pure and hp | 17:15 |
| hemna | since the deps have all landed I believe. /me hopes the CI will pass | 17:15 |
| patrickeast | ahh sweet | 17:15 |
| patrickeast | yea if they pass i'll feel pretty good about it | 17:15 |
| hemna | yah the cross project deps aren't overly useful for CI | 17:16 |
| hemna | they simply don't work | 17:16 |
| patrickeast | so iirc they *can* work | 17:16 |
| hemna | would be nice to see if that can get fixed | 17:16 |
| patrickeast | it just takes a configuration for the ci's that most people dont do, you have to have all the projects tracked by zuul (if i understood correctly) | 17:16 |
| patrickeast | so like our ci's don't look at nova for anything | 17:16 |
| patrickeast | and thus it can't deal with that dependency | 17:16 |
| hemna | so what's the magic sauce to get that to work? | 17:17 |
| patrickeast | one of these days i'll find time to try and get it working... maybe around the P release | 17:17 |
| hemna | we have switched over to common CI | 17:17 |
| hemna | :P | 17:17 |
| patrickeast | well, in theory we just need to add dummy jobs in for nova that are no-ops and don't report | 17:17 |
| hemna | I would hope that the common CI setup/config/BS would handle that | 17:17 |
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| patrickeast | and if the description i heard was correct, and i understood it right, that should work | 17:18 |
| patrickeast | its also hard because i'm not using the latest zuul.... not 100% sure if its new enough to even have the cross project stuff | 17:18 |
| patrickeast | i know others use old versions of it too | 17:18 |
| hemna | I think we do too | 17:18 |
| hemna | cbader ? | 17:18 |
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| DuncanT | https://review.openstack.org/301846 | 17:31 |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: Interesting. Kind of like optimistic DB locking. | 17:37 |
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| DuncanT | smcginnis: Yes | 17:40 |
| DuncanT | smcginnis: Something I've been talking to cdent about since I noticed the huge hole in the bulk metadata delete code | 17:41 |
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| ntpttr | smcginnis: I put together an initial draft of adding the backend usage reporting API in and I have it working locally on devstack, but do you know how to have the manager make a call for every enabled driver? | 17:59 |
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| ntpttr | smcginnis: For one it works fine, because the call is made to self.driver.get_volume_stats, but there's only one 'self.driver', so how can you have that command run for each enabled backend? Not include a host in the cctxt in the rpcapi? | 18:00 |
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| DuncanT | ntpttr: You best bet is to just pull the info from a scheduler node, which gets all the stats reports every 30 seconds. | 18:01 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Good idea. | 18:01 |
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| DuncanT | ntpttr: You can' t call every backend for each API call, there might be dozens or hundreds of them | 18:01 |
| smcginnis | ntpttr: I haven't had to do that myself. Pulling from the scheduler seems reasonable. | 18:01 |
| ntpttr | DuncanT: that does sound reasonable, thanks for the suggestion | 18:01 |
| ntpttr | I thought that the volume manager might not be able to do it, but I hadn't thought of the scheduler | 18:02 |
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| DuncanT | ntpttr: The scheduler has all the info in memory for scheduling decisions, should be trivial to transform it for your API | 18:03 |
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| ntpttr | DuncanT: great, I haven't looked at the scheduler too much yet, I'll check that out | 18:04 |
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| alkhodos_ | Hi guys, could any core reviewers take a look at these patches? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297367 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297880 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291966 Been hanging there for some time now and have couple of +1's and +2's | 18:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sheel Rana proposed openstack/cinder: Microversion of Bootable filter in cinder list https://review.openstack.org/278605 | 18:30 |
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| DuncanT | alkhodos_: Lookin gnow | 18:41 |
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| smcginnis | patrickeast: FYI - my CI tests failed, but it did run the tempest plugin test. Thanks for the catch on the __init__. | 18:42 |
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| patrickeast | smcginnis: sweet, glad that was all it took! | 18:45 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: Me too! ;) | 18:45 |
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| Swanson | Anyone out there want to take a peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300118/4 and maybe make like with the plus plus? Or have me fix something. Either or. | 18:48 |
| alkhodos_ | DuncanT: thank you! | 18:50 |
| DuncanT | alkhodos_: 2 approved, one waiting for a recheck | 18:50 |
| DuncanT | alkhodos_: The fail looked unrelated, but I wanted to see a clean run | 18:50 |
| alkhodos_ | DuncanT: the fail is related to a bug fixed in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297367 that you just +2'ed :) | 18:52 |
| DuncanT | alkhodos_: Ah, can you trigger a recheck when that's merged, please? | 18:53 |
| alkhodos_ | DuncanT: sure | 18:53 |
| alkhodos_ | DuncanT: also probably need to change recheck string, since any recheck* string triggers Jenkins | 18:54 |
| DuncanT | alkhodos_: Yeah, that's been discussed a few times. run_<ci name> I think was the recommended value, but check that with somebody competent first | 18:55 |
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| alkhodos_ | DuncanT: ye, I think it's run or rerun. Still wonder why not change Jenkins string to a strict regex, but whatever :) | 18:56 |
| DuncanT | alkhodos_: Ask in #openstack-infra - I suspect it is because it wants to trigger on things like "recheck bug XXXX" and "recheck nobug" | 18:57 |
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| alkhodos_ | DuncanT: oh, makes sense then | 18:58 |
| smcginnis | run-<ci name> | 18:59 |
| DuncanT | smcginnisI was close :-) | 19:00 |
| smcginnis | Closer than some. :) | 19:00 |
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| smcginnis | alkhodos_: Some detail here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/how-to-contribute-a-driver#Third_Party_CI_Requirement_Policy | 19:01 |
| alkhodos_ | @smcginnis: nice, thanks! | 19:01 |
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| DuncanT | smcginnis: ETags are going to be a pain in the neck to implement :-( The easiest way I can think of is to add it to the DB and calculate it during update rather than on retrieval | 19:02 |
| ildikov | scottda: ping | 19:04 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Yeah, I left a comment on the spec. It doesn't call out who/what will be generating those ETags and doing the checking and enforcement of that. | 19:04 |
| smcginnis | It does almost seem like it could be best suited in the DB, but not sure how that would work. | 19:04 |
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| scottda | ildikov: hi | 19:16 |
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| ildikov | scottda: hi | 19:17 |
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| ildikov | scottda: I just checked the etherpad and wanted to clarify alternative #2 | 19:17 |
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| scottda | Well, that is the path championed by jgriffith | 19:18 |
| ildikov | scottda: I updated detach during Mitaka to send attachment_id to Cinder | 19:18 |
| scottda | So perhaps he is around, since he'd be better able to answer | 19:18 |
| ildikov | scottda: sure | 19:19 |
| ildikov | scottda: or we can discusse it on the meeting tomorrow as well | 19:19 |
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| scottda | ildikov: OK, I see you've added some notes. I cannot claim I've captured everything perfectly in the alternatives, I was just trying to tame the complexity a bit. | 19:20 |
| ildikov | scottda: nah, I didn't want to do finger pointing, I just wanted to be sure I understand that option correctly | 19:21 |
| scottda | ildikov: Anything specific you wanted to clarify about Alt#2 | 19:22 |
| scottda | ? | 19:22 |
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| ildikov | scottda: just the part regarding storing attachment_id in Nova, whether it's necessary in your view or not | 19:22 |
| scottda | ildikov: I think it is going to take a bit more work for all of us to understand alt#2. It might benefit from a spec. | 19:22 |
| ildikov | scottda: or the intention is only to send it at detach time | 19:22 |
| ildikov | scottda: it's also very good you pointed out the issue exists with NFS as well | 19:23 |
| scottda | ildikov: I don't think Nova needs to store it if Nova can get it from Cinder (which may be best anyway, giving one single source of truth).... | 19:23 |
| ildikov | yeah, same thought here and we already retrieve it from Cinder | 19:24 |
| scottda | But does Nova need Cinder to keep both instance_id and host in order to retrieve the attachment_id? That's correct, I think? | 19:24 |
| ildikov | no, the attachment info contains instance_id | 19:25 |
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| ildikov | that's enough on Nova side to identify the right attachment | 19:25 |
| ildikov | we wanted to store the host name in order to figure out when to terminate connection | 19:25 |
| ildikov | but then it turned out it does not work from multiple perspectives | 19:26 |
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| scottda | I think the alternatives would benefit from some flow diagrams. Not that I'm volunteering myself or anyone to do that.... | 19:27 |
| ildikov | scottda: haha, watch out with these opinions :) | 19:27 |
| ildikov | scottda: although I agree, I'm not sure I understand the attach/detach flow properly even without the multiattach case | 19:28 |
| ildikov | scottda: so it's a totally valid point! | 19:28 |
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| hemna | when nova fetches the volume, all of the attachments for that volume are in there | 19:43 |
| hemna | if we stored the host | 19:43 |
| hemna | and made sure it was up to date | 19:43 |
| hemna | then nova could find out when to call disconnect_volume | 19:43 |
| scottda | hemna: Have you looked at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-nova-api-changes "Solution Proposals" and given your feedback? | 19:46 |
| hemna | just started looking at it.... | 19:46 |
| hemna | it's a lot to consume | 19:46 |
| scottda | Yes, it's a mess. That is the real problem, how to make these alternatives easier to understand. | 19:47 |
| hemna | so | 19:47 |
| hemna | I believe the proper attachment process | 19:47 |
| hemna | from nova's perspective | 19:47 |
| hemna | is to first call os-reserve | 19:48 |
| hemna | the volume is placed into attaching | 19:48 |
| hemna | I don't think there is an attachment_id yet though | 19:48 |
| hemna | I'm trying to trace that down | 19:48 |
| hemna | but | 19:48 |
| hemna | we could create one then | 19:48 |
| hemna | and pass that back to nova then. | 19:48 |
| hemna | nova could keep it | 19:48 |
| hemna | and pass that along in each successive request to cinder to do work | 19:48 |
| hemna | which is initialize_connection, then attach | 19:49 |
| hemna | then that would work for multi-attach case | 19:49 |
| scottda | That's a pretty cool idea. | 19:49 |
| hemna | as initialize_connection would get it | 19:49 |
| hemna | it would know which attachment it's working on | 19:49 |
| hemna | and be able to update it | 19:49 |
| hemna | the gotcha | 19:49 |
| hemna | is live migration | 19:50 |
| hemna | :P | 19:50 |
| hemna | we could change live migration a tad | 19:50 |
| hemna | nova currently backdoors the workflow | 19:50 |
| hemna | during live migration | 19:50 |
| hemna | and it simply calls initialize_connection for the same instance, just now on a new host | 19:50 |
| hemna | let me track this down and see if I can add this in somewhere | 19:51 |
| hemna | into the etherpad | 19:51 |
| hemna | I don't think there is a reliable way to get the correct attachment_id from the connector alone (inside of initialize_connection) for multi-attach. | 19:51 |
| hemna | which is why I never looked into adding it. | 19:52 |
| ildikov | I'm not 100% sure why we did not store attachment_id finally, I know that let Cinder be the ultimate source of truth was said several times | 19:54 |
| ildikov | also BDM in Nova is kind of messy a bit as well, so I would think we did not want to overcomplicate things either | 19:54 |
| hemna | bdm is a mess | 19:54 |
| hemna | cinder should always be the source of truth | 19:54 |
| hemna | the problem is we need to make sure it has the APIs in place to have the correct truth :) | 19:55 |
| ildikov | so this is why we retrieve all the info fro Cinder already :) | 19:55 |
| mriedem | smcginnis: ooo https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9080 | 19:55 |
| mriedem | i forgot my html syntax for anchors | 19:55 |
| mriedem | thanks google | 19:55 |
| ildikov | mriedem: \o/ | 19:56 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Awesome, thanks. | 19:57 |
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| smcginnis | mriedem: Did you add a cinder tag to that so it shows up in the storage track too? | 19:58 |
| mriedem | yup | 19:58 |
| smcginnis | OK, good. Display is being a little funky for me. | 19:58 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Mmmm, not sure why I didn't see this before, but we do have a Cinder work session at that time slot in another room. | 19:59 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Wonder if I should give that room up? Or change our time? | 19:59 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Or just video between rooms so we don't have to sit near each otehr. | 19:59 |
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| mriedem | smcginnis: hmm, that must have changed from what i originally penciled that in | 20:00 |
| mriedem | i didn't think cinder had anything | 20:00 |
| mriedem | i can look at moving | 20:01 |
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| smcginnis | mriedem: Yeah, I thought originally we didn't have any conflicts then. | 20:01 |
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| smcginnis | mriedem: Hold on. | 20:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan McNair proposed openstack/cinder: Add functional tests for nested quotas https://review.openstack.org/298453 | 20:02 |
| mriedem | smcginnis: cinder doesn't have anything at 11 on thurs | 20:02 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Yeah, just ignore me. | 20:02 |
| mriedem | done and done | 20:02 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: ;-) | 20:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: NexentaStor drivers: resize volume if cloned image is larger https://review.openstack.org/297367 | 20:05 |
| jbernard_ | hemna: for local attachment with os-brick, for RBD could we use rbd-nbd? i hadn't thought of this earlier but it seems like it might work - based on my limited understanding of the local-attach intent | 20:05 |
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| hemna | jbernard_, my knowledge of rbd is almost nill. :( | 20:06 |
| hemna | so I'm not sure | 20:06 |
| jbernard_ | hemna: that's okay :) | 20:06 |
| * hemna googles..... | 20:06 | |
| jbernard_ | http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/man/8/rbd-nbd/ | 20:06 |
| hemna | oh | 20:06 |
| hemna | so it maps an rbd image to a local block device.... | 20:06 |
| hemna | that sounds promising then | 20:06 |
| jbernard_ | hemna: rbd-mbd binds a rados block device (remote) to a local nbd block dev (local) | 20:07 |
| jbernard_ | exactly | 20:07 |
| hemna | worth playing with then :) | 20:07 |
| jbernard_ | i *think* it might give is what we'd need to participate | 20:07 |
| hemna | yah that sounds like it. | 20:07 |
| hemna | so | 20:07 |
| hemna | this is interesting though | 20:07 |
| hemna | there might be a use case for os-brick providing 2 different connector types | 20:07 |
| hemna | one that provides the standard block device path, re: iSCSI, FC, etc | 20:08 |
| hemna | and another that provides the python io object | 20:08 |
| hemna | I'm not sure who would use the later | 20:08 |
| jbernard_ | yeah, with rbd-nbd we could support both (assuming it works) | 20:08 |
| hemna | heh | 20:08 |
| jbernard_ | i would use the later for volume migration | 20:08 |
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| jbernard_ | but having a /dev/nbdX would be nice for local attachment as well | 20:09 |
| hemna | yup | 20:09 |
| jbernard_ | cool, ill look at the idea more closely then | 20:10 |
| jbernard_ | hemna: thanks for the input | 20:10 |
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| hemna | scottda, ildikov so currently, the volume attachment entry isn't even created until the process is complete. | 20:12 |
| hemna | scottda, ildikov https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/manager.py#L986 | 20:12 |
| xinli | jsbryant: If I create a volume with back-end V70000, cinder list also shows this instance, but due to the V7000 relocation, now the nova instance lost the connect, how can I remove the cinder instance without error? | 20:12 |
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| hemna | basically when we need to set the attachment status to 'in-use' | 20:12 |
| hemna | what would be nice, is if we moved that attachment entry creation to reserve_volume time. | 20:13 |
| hemna | also | 20:13 |
| hemna | the volume status is updated at reserve_volume time to attaching | 20:13 |
| hemna | w/o an attachment entry existing.... | 20:13 |
| hemna | if we moved the status updating into the volume object itself, it could manage both the volume status field and the attachment entry at the same time. | 20:14 |
| scottda | makes sense. | 20:14 |
| ildikov | is there any historical reason that we should consider when we want to change all these orders? | 20:17 |
| hemna | well, historically, there was no attachment table at all | 20:17 |
| hemna | I added that ages ago in my attempt at multi-attach | 20:17 |
| hemna | so there was no need for it at that time. | 20:17 |
| hemna | so | 20:17 |
| hemna | I'll add my alternative to the etherpad | 20:17 |
| hemna | :P | 20:17 |
| hemna | I'll be #4 | 20:18 |
| scottda | hemna: Thanks | 20:18 |
| ildikov | why I'm getting scared from this sentence? :) | 20:18 |
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| ildikov | hemna: just try to keep in mind the amount of work needed for that brand new alternative, I have only one lifetime for this work ;) | 20:21 |
| hemna | well | 20:21 |
| hemna | I'm not concerned about that :) | 20:21 |
| hemna | I'm just thinking out loud and trying to see if it makes the most sense. | 20:21 |
| hemna | I'd like to make the API cleaner | 20:21 |
| hemna | and not full of wtf's | 20:21 |
| hemna | the API as it exists today seems a bit like a WTF to me. | 20:22 |
| ildikov | hemna: sorry, getting late, so my jokes are not working anymore | 20:22 |
| hemna | no worries | 20:22 |
| ildikov | I assume we would pass attachment_id all the way during live migration as well, right? | 20:23 |
| hemna | there seems to be a lot of efffort to find the attachment_id in initialize_connection (alternative 2), but it doesn't exist yet then. | 20:23 |
| hemna | from what I can tell. | 20:23 |
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| hemna | scottda, so I could be wrong | 20:27 |
| hemna | but if the attachment_id was added to initialize_connection as an optional argument | 20:27 |
| hemna | if it was not None, then we could update the attachment information then. | 20:27 |
| hemna | which might bypass the need for the update_attachment api | 20:27 |
| scottda | hmmm | 20:28 |
| hemna | (just thinking outloud) | 20:28 |
| ildikov | I wonder whether we could still get use of that API | 20:28 |
| hemna | we'd have to have the volume_attachment table entry created at os-reserve time | 20:28 |
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| hemna | I'm not sure we'd need it | 20:28 |
| hemna | we might, but I dunno | 20:28 |
| ildikov | I mean we need to ensure to be able to capture the information on every path | 20:28 |
| hemna | live migration was always the monster that made us need to update the attachment. | 20:29 |
| ildikov | so at least as a back up option | 20:29 |
| ildikov | ... which I know does not sound good enough to create a new API, but still | 20:29 |
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| hemna | but if nova passed in the attachment_id during initialize_connection time, we could get the right attachment and then update it. | 20:29 |
| ildikov | ... when it's about the communication between two modules it seems better to have a door to correct outdated info | 20:29 |
| hemna | I forget what the order of operations was though with live migration | 20:29 |
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| scottda | That does sound like it'd work | 20:30 |
| hemna | I do like having the explicit attachment_id passed around | 20:30 |
| hemna | so that way both nova and cinder knew what was being worked on | 20:30 |
| hemna | instead of this magic to try and discover it | 20:30 |
| ildikov | I think in live migration it was a prepare step, where initialize_connection was called | 20:30 |
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| hemna | ildikov, I do think live migration calls initialize_connection for the same volume a few times. | 20:31 |
| hemna | it needs to to create the export on the target n-cpu host | 20:31 |
| ildikov | I'm not saying I don't like the idea, I just don;t see all the flows myself that we have during attach/detach | 20:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick: Fixes get_all_available_volumes return value https://review.openstack.org/288834 | 20:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick: LVM: Call supports_thin_provisioning as static https://review.openstack.org/301280 | 20:32 |
| hemna | but I think it needs to as well to correctly get the connection_info for os-brick to disconnect the volume on the original n-cpu host | 20:32 |
| ildikov | hemna: I tracked one of those | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick: Add pylint tox env https://review.openstack.org/301276 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick: Don't use oslo-incubator stuff https://review.openstack.org/296346 | 20:32 |
| hemna | yah | 20:32 |
| hemna | we need a workflow diagram | 20:32 |
| hemna | *sigh* | 20:32 |
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| ildikov | hemna: I take it as you're volunteering :) | 20:32 |
| hemna | that includes all of the calls for normal attach, multi-attach and live migration | 20:32 |
| scottda | I started down that path for attach/detach here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267715/ | 20:33 |
| ildikov | if we have smth depicts normal attach and live migration that would already be pretty awesome | 20:33 |
| hemna | http://asciiflow.com | 20:36 |
| hemna | heh | 20:36 |
| hemna | I'm drowning in things to do at this point. | 20:37 |
| hemna | trying to rework the os-brick lvm.py code | 20:37 |
| scottda | Yeah, but doesn't always translate to .rst very well. | 20:37 |
| hemna | so that nova and cinder can use it. | 20:37 |
| scottda | We need an intern! | 20:37 |
| hemna | yah | 20:37 |
| hemna | but if we don't do this API stuff now | 20:37 |
| hemna | it's not going to make N | 20:37 |
| scottda | I totally agree. I'm buried myself, but if I can get this one pesky unit test to work, maybe I can start some diagrams..... | 20:38 |
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| hemna | scottda, ildikov ok I updated the etherpad | 20:50 |
| hemna | let me know if that's enough info ? | 20:50 |
| ildikov | hemna: coolio, tnx | 20:51 |
| ildikov | hemna: we're having the next meeting tomorrow | 20:51 |
| hemna | ok | 20:51 |
| ildikov | hemna: 2100UTC, #openstack-meeting-cp | 20:51 |
| hemna | I guess this idea is good timing then :) | 20:51 |
| hemna | It has all the benefits of #2 | 20:51 |
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| hemna | just a cleaner interface IMHO | 20:51 |
| ildikov | yeap, could not be any better :) | 20:51 |
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| scottda | hemna: Certainly enough info to get us further down the path... | 20:52 |
| scottda | leading up to the Big Cage Match in Austin. | 20:52 |
| hemna | hehe | 20:52 |
| hemna | oofa | 20:52 |
| hemna | scottda, you did put together a host, instance_uuid microversion patch in place no ? | 20:53 |
| hemna | just curious how much effort would be needed to put up a WIP for my idea | 20:53 |
| scottda | yep | 20:53 |
| hemna | so we would have something to compare to | 20:53 |
| hemna | as if I needed more work to do... | 20:53 |
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| scottda | Let's give it a day, and see how the meeting goes. Then we can see if it's worth more effort. | 20:54 |
| hemna | ok sounds good | 20:54 |
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| ildikov | scottda: +1 | 20:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Fix coverage generation https://review.openstack.org/296107 | 20:56 |
| hemna | I probably wouldn't get all of the right stuff in a diagram between now and tomorrow. | 20:56 |
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| ildikov | hemna: we're trying to have this as a weekly meeting until we don't have a good enough progress, also we have the etherpad to evaluate further and we can use the ML too, so I think we should be already good to go with the alternatives for the meeting | 20:58 |
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| hemna | coolio | 21:03 |
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| scottda | patrickeast: Please ping me if you get a chance | 21:30 |
| patrickeast | scottda: yo | 21:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Karthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack/cinder: Cleanup for Volume Object https://review.openstack.org/300708 | 21:35 |
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| Swanson | I need more merge failures out of nowhere. That would make me happy. | 21:58 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: Is that a challenge? :) | 21:58 |
| Swanson | Pycharm makes resolving them pretty easy but still. | 21:58 |
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| karthikp | smcginnis, this is Karhtik here.. I thought the DocImpact was necessary for changes which affect documentation | 22:03 |
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| karthikp | smcginnis, please correct me if am wrong | 22:03 |
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| hemna | scottda, ping | 22:18 |
| hemna | scottda, https://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/image/10360157/L.png | 22:20 |
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| scottda | hemna: Nifty. Did you just make that? | 22:22 |
| hemna | yah | 22:22 |
| hemna | I invited you as a collaborator | 22:22 |
| hemna | to see if you can hack on it as well | 22:22 |
| hemna | invited jgriffith and ildikov | 22:22 |
| scottda | I knew that had to be something better than ASCII....IT is 2016 after all | 22:23 |
| hemna | this is a 14 day free trial | 22:23 |
| hemna | fwiw | 22:23 |
| hemna | so....:( | 22:23 |
| scottda | so hurry up, is what you're saying. Nice name... | 22:24 |
| hemna | heh yah, oops | 22:24 |
| hemna | maybe there is another free tool for this | 22:24 |
| hemna | I used your spec as a guide and double checked against all the code | 22:24 |
| hemna | not sure how much call detail we want | 22:25 |
| hemna | or if I should add more | 22:25 |
| scottda | It's good, so far. We can hack at it and at least produce something useful. | 22:25 |
| jgriffith | hemna: nice | 22:25 |
| jgriffith | hemna: what about initialize_connection and such? | 22:26 |
| hemna | it should be in there | 22:26 |
| hemna | it's a tall diagram | 22:26 |
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| jgriffith | ahh.. I see it :) | 22:27 |
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| hemna | so it's something. it it helps at all. | 22:32 |
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| hemna | would be nice if I could save it as uml or something exportable | 22:33 |
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| scottda | Thanks for doing that, hemna | 22:37 |
| hemna | sure | 22:37 |
| hemna | np | 22:37 |
| hemna | I added a link in the etherpad for it | 22:38 |
| hemna | https://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/10360157 | 22:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Implement backend usage reporting [WIP] https://review.openstack.org/301444 | 23:15 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Dummy patch to debug SolidFire CI https://review.openstack.org/301968 | 23:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Implement backend usage reporting https://review.openstack.org/301444 | 23:55 |
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