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| openstackgerrit | Cao ShuFeng proposed openstack/cinder: ehanche error message [1/5] https://review.openstack.org/296304 | 09:13 |
| nikeshm | hi | 09:13 |
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| nikeshm | my client array does not support clone volume feature inbuilt and they are looking for cinder driver so if we write a driver, "Clone Volume" feature will dependent on base driver so is it acceptable? | 09:15 |
| nikeshm | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/drivers.html | 09:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Make Nova API version configurable Edit https://review.openstack.org/302177 | 11:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Make Nova API version configurable https://review.openstack.org/302177 | 11:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: cinder-all is deprecated https://review.openstack.org/302189 | 11:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/cinder: Update the Administrator guide links https://review.openstack.org/302202 | 12:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stefan Amann proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Add support for FICON attached ECKD volumes for Linux on System z https://review.openstack.org/302221 | 12:39 |
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| smcginnis | Wow, FICON support in OpenStack. Crazy. | 12:52 |
| DuncanT | What's FICON? | 12:52 |
| smcginnis | If you don't know, you most likely don't care and not worth your time to find out. ;) | 12:53 |
| smcginnis | I think mostly used with mainframes. | 12:53 |
| smcginnis | A different flavor of fibre channel. | 12:53 |
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| DuncanT | Blimey. Does somebody actually want to use that with Openstack? Does it need a CI? | 12:54 |
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| smcginnis | Yes to the second question. | 12:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: Deprecate nas_ip and change this to nas_host https://review.openstack.org/302207 | 12:54 |
| smcginnis | Not so sure on the first one, but if they are proposing it... maybe? | 12:54 |
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| yuriy_n17 | DuncanT: Hi! Sorry for disturbing. Please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281511/ whenever you have free time. | 13:32 |
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| scottda | e0ne: geguileo: Would you have time to look at cinderclient /v3 endpoint support before today's Cinder meeting? | 14:57 |
| scottda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300028/5 | 14:57 |
| scottda | I've put cinderclient reviews on the agenda. | 14:58 |
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| e0ne | scottda: I would like to test it too | 14:59 |
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| scottda | e0ne: That would be great. I've also pushed up dependent patch for microversion support: | 14:59 |
| scottda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301941/ | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Karthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack/cinder: Cleanup for Volume Object https://review.openstack.org/300708 | 15:06 |
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| DuncanT | yuriy_n17: Regarding deprecating cinder-all - why? It's always been true that you can spread the services round, but one command to start them all if that's what you want to do is surely useful? | 15:14 |
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| e0ne | scottda: do we need to create new endpoint in keystone? | 15:19 |
| yuriy_n17 | DuncanT: This command is hardly used and it will be removed in the next release. | 15:20 |
| DuncanT | yuriy_n17: Not without more justification than that, it won't. Is it broken? Harmful? Or do you just not like it? | 15:21 |
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| DuncanT | yuriy_n17: Removing it is a breakage of anybody who is using it - if there's a good reason to, then fine, but currently no reason has been given it the blueprint of the patch | 15:23 |
| yuriy_n17 | DuncanT: We don't know whether it is used by anyone. | 15:23 |
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| yuriy_n17 | DuncanT: This is not tested either. | 15:24 |
| DuncanT | yuriy_n17: Ok, not tested is a justification. Can you add that to the commit message, please? | 15:25 |
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| yuriy_n17 | DuncanT: Sure | 15:25 |
| DuncanT | yuriy_n17: Thanks. At least if somebody objects we've got some reason why we removed it logged | 15:26 |
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| xinli | baumann: if I want to connet to a cinder database to remove a volume, I find two scenarios: mySQL -D cinder or mySQL -r root cinder what's the diff? | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: Make cinder-all binary deprecated https://review.openstack.org/302189 | 15:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Make Nova API version configurable https://review.openstack.org/302177 | 15:37 |
| baumann | xinli: So -D will specify 'cinder' as the database name. -u will specify the username (root in this case), and then the database of 'cinder' is specified after. | 15:39 |
| baumann | xinli: As far as I understand it anyways :) | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Make cinder-all binary deprecated https://review.openstack.org/302189 | 15:45 |
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| scottda | e0ne: Yes, you need to create a new endpoint in Keystone.... | 15:47 |
| scottda | ameade: Has a patch up to add /v3 to devstack...looking.... | 15:47 |
| e0ne | scottda: do you have patch to devstack for it? | 15:47 |
| e0ne | :) | 15:47 |
| scottda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300585 | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Wasn't there a request from keystone not to add version specific endpoints anymore? | 15:48 |
| ameade | what's the alternative? | 15:48 |
| e0ne | scottda: cool! thank you | 15:48 |
| scottda | smcginnis: I'm not sure whom it was actually from, but there was pushback on adding a new endpoint. | 15:48 |
| ameade | besides not having version in the url | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | I think the idea was one endpoint for the service, then... maybe discover version from there? | 15:49 |
| smcginnis | Honestly not sure. | 15:49 |
| ameade | I feel like i've stood next to a conversation about this lol | 15:49 |
| scottda | Well, I believe one goal was not to have a proliferation of endpoints in the service catalogue... | 15:49 |
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| scottda | But, we should never have to add another, since we can now version in the HTTP header. | 15:50 |
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| scottda | Speaking of which, Cindeclient had version discovery, but we backed it out during Kilo due to a problem with proxies... | 15:50 |
| scottda | I'm not sure we ever got that back into the client/ | 15:50 |
| scottda | ? | 15:50 |
| smcginnis | scottda: No, it didn't. | 15:51 |
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| smcginnis | Would be nice. Not sure what all the issues were there. I think something to do with proxies and NAT'ing of the IP address or something. | 15:51 |
| scottda | smcginnis: Do you know if we've a bug filed? I'd like to track it, and perhaps work on it. | 15:51 |
| e0ne | scottda: IMO, it' would be a good feature if we'll fix issues with proxies | 15:51 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Good point about now with microversions. Shouldn't ever have to add another endpoint. | 15:52 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Not that I've seen. Maybe thingee knows? | 15:52 |
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| * thingee reads scrollback | 15:52 | |
| scottda | or DuncanT ...I know we discovered the problem in our public cloud. Actually mordred discovered it. | 15:52 |
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| scottda | thingee: Is there a bug filed to re-enable automatic version discovery in the cinderclient? | 15:53 |
| scottda | I'm sensing we could have a Summit topic on this.... | 15:53 |
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| thingee | scottda: not sure. | 15:53 |
| DuncanT | Oh, yeah, that was the issue where it didn't have some header you could set to re-write the URLs to point at proxies | 15:53 |
| thingee | do we really need a summit topic? it was merged in the past | 15:53 |
| scottda | thingee: maybe not. I wasn't sure if there were other issues. | 15:54 |
| scottda | around endpoints. | 15:54 |
| thingee | in the past the issue was because of ha proxy cases and ssl termination | 15:54 |
| DuncanT | I don't think we need a summit session; the issue is well understood (other than the fact it needs to be configurable and default to off, for security reasons) and the code is in several otehr projects | 15:54 |
| thingee | we eliminated this problem in Kilo i think with a config option | 15:54 |
| thingee | however, expecting deployments to be using kilo was not ideal | 15:55 |
| thingee | so we reverted | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | Maybe well understood, but it might be nice to capture that understanding in a bug report so others can understand the full issue. | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Christopher J Schaefer proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Adding tox support for bandit https://review.openstack.org/296082 | 15:55 |
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| scottda | thingee: That's right. So re-introducing in the client would have to either be configurable or discoverable based on server version (We can do this now with /v3) | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | thingee: Oh, so post kilo now we should be able to reimplement that change? | 15:55 |
| thingee | smcginnis: I think i did capture it many times, and even explained in the past midcycles, but people had a hard time to follow along | 15:55 |
| thingee | DuncanT's only comment was "well glad you're looking at it" | 15:56 |
| DuncanT | Ok. I'll see if I can find the bug report or review that talked about it in depth | 15:56 |
| hogepodge | smcginnis: Do you have any thoughts on this review? Particularly eglute's comments and inclusion of extend as an advisory capability. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290271/4 | 15:56 |
| smcginnis | thingee: Hah, probably true. Guess I should look through those logs. | 15:56 |
| thingee | smcginnis: if we were to readd it, the assumption is people are mostly on kilo. | 15:56 |
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| scottda | DuncanT: OK. Keep me in the loop. I've been in that code a lot lately and can have a look if there are any fixes needed. | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/cinder: Add test for checking object compatibilities https://review.openstack.org/259123 | 15:56 |
| thingee | otherwise the client won't work for those still on juno | 15:56 |
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| smcginnis | hogepodge: I'll take a look later. Got it open in a tab now. | 15:56 |
| thingee | and we couldn't backport just that fix to juno for some reason | 15:56 |
| hogepodge | anyone else on the cinder team, feel free to weigh in. We're scoring capabilities for the next defcore round. | 15:57 |
| hogepodge | smcginnis: thanks | 15:57 |
| DuncanT | X-Forwarded-Host is the standard header. Looks like we might have hard-coded it, which is actually a security risk according to what I was reading (and it made sense why at the time) | 15:57 |
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| smcginnis | Junp will be OEL now, so maybe we're good. | 15:57 |
| DuncanT | vi common. | 15:57 |
| DuncanT | Bah | 15:57 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 15:57 |
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| DuncanT | We couldn't rely on a backport since the client couldn't know if the fix had been deloyed or not | 15:59 |
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| DuncanT | So it looks like we don't have a version discovery issue as long as the proxy or ssl termination sets X-Forwarded-Host | 16:00 |
| DuncanT | But we might have a minor security issue, I'll try to dig out references | 16:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Potter proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Backend Usage Reporting https://review.openstack.org/301946 | 16:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Make Nova API version configurable https://review.openstack.org/302177 | 16:37 |
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| ntpttr | e0ne: ping | 16:45 |
| e0ne | ntpttr: hi | 16:45 |
| ntpttr | e0ne: hey, so in you comment on my usage API you mentioned that the XML API is going to be removed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301444/5/cinder/api/contrib/usage.py | 16:46 |
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| e0ne | ntpttr: I did | 16:46 |
| ntpttr | I tried taking it out but when I do running the command gives me a 404, when with it it works | 16:46 |
| ntpttr | is there something I should be replacing it with? | 16:46 |
| e0ne | ntpttr: JSON REST API | 16:46 |
| e0ne | ntpttr: here is a patch with removal https://review.openstack.org/231663 | 16:47 |
| ntpttr | e0ne: okay, thanks | 16:47 |
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| * sheel looking for review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278605/32 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273938/ | 16:59 | |
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| sjackson | Hello all. I have Juno using ceph as a cinder backend. The ceph cluster has some issues and I need to rebuild it. My first thought is to add secondary cinder storage (another ceph cluster or normal cinder) and migrate the data. Was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to add a 2nd cinder/ceph cluster, and if os, it it possible to migrate 100% of my data off the old cluster? | 17:21 |
| DuncanT | sjackson: I don't know the status of volume migration in Juno, but it is certainly possible in Kilo onwards. I think it is ok - should be easy enough to spin up a ceph based devstack and test it | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Potter proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Backend Usage Reporting https://review.openstack.org/301946 | 17:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Potter proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Implement cinder free command https://review.openstack.org/301445 | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Nate Potter proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Implement cinder usage command https://review.openstack.org/301445 | 17:51 |
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| * hemna is trying different 'uml' editors | 18:07 | |
| hemna | all so unsatisfying | 18:07 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Yep. | 18:07 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Did you try plantuml? | 18:07 |
| smcginnis | I had done the same thing and ended up there. | 18:07 |
| hemna | not yet | 18:07 |
| hemna | I really liked gliffy | 18:08 |
| smcginnis | What's the issue there? Not free? | 18:08 |
| hemna | not free :( | 18:08 |
| hemna | 14 day trial | 18:08 |
| smcginnis | Bleh | 18:08 |
| hemna | looks like most of the desktop editors like that also don't export to something readable | 18:08 |
| smcginnis | What's this GUI stuff? You're supposed to be a hard core command line guy. :) | 18:09 |
| hemna | argouml...junk | 18:09 |
| hemna | umlet....junk | 18:09 |
| hemna | evoluspencil....junk | 18:09 |
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| smcginnis | evoluspencil? I would kill that one just for the name. | 18:09 |
| hemna | hehe yah | 18:10 |
| smcginnis | Argo looked promising to me at first, but IIRC it's way out of date. | 18:10 |
| hemna | I really like the gliffy editor and it outputs nice images | 18:10 |
| hemna | https://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/image/10360157/L.png | 18:10 |
| hemna | I just tried Argo | 18:10 |
| hemna | the screens look good | 18:10 |
| hemna | just tried to use the interface and it was awful | 18:10 |
| smcginnis | StarUML was OK-ish. | 18:10 |
| hemna | downloading yEd at the moment... | 18:11 |
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| scottda | hemna: I liked the look of plantuml | 18:11 |
| hemna | ok ok | 18:11 |
| hemna | I'll try pulling that down | 18:11 |
| hemna | I didn't care for the look of the screens on it at all. | 18:11 |
| smcginnis | Hehe, we're breaking you down. | 18:11 |
| hemna | https://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/image/10360157/L.png | 18:12 |
| hemna | that's what I want! | 18:12 |
| hemna | but free | 18:12 |
| hemna | that is way readable imho. | 18:12 |
| smcginnis | Should be able to get that. | 18:12 |
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| scottda | hemna: I want you to like plantuml so I can start using it. | 18:13 |
| smcginnis | Although that is kind of a mix of a UML diagram, a sequence diagram, and a workflow diagram. | 18:13 |
| hemna | hehe | 18:13 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Hah! | 18:13 |
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| smcginnis | Ooh, kist noticed staruml is updated and now supports markdown. | 18:14 |
| smcginnis | http://staruml.io/ | 18:14 |
| hemna | crap | 18:14 |
| hemna | ok, well I created a simple ass.txt | 18:15 |
| hemna | and platuml didn't see it | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | I think it would be ideal if we can store in-repo as reviewable text. | 18:15 |
| hemna | :( so I can't even run it against my sample txt file | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | hemna: What do you mean by it didn't see it? | 18:15 |
| hemna | java -jar platuml.jar | 18:15 |
| hemna | dialog comes up to select a file to run | 18:15 |
| hemna | doesn't see my file | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | There are some online editors. Maybe try that? http://www.planttext.com/ | 18:17 |
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| hemna | ahh ok | 18:17 |
| hemna | yah the desktop one can't even see my files on disk | 18:17 |
| smcginnis | Or this would make it easy to share: https://sites.google.com/site/plantumlgizmo/home | 18:17 |
| hemna | strange | 18:17 |
| hemna | frigging java | 18:17 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 18:17 |
| erlon | hemna: if you only are using it for drawing, you can try 'draw.io' | 18:18 |
| hemna | yah tried that... sadness | 18:18 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Can you paste your ass.txt content? | 18:19 |
| scottda | That does not parse well | 18:20 |
| hemna | http://goo.gl/pNf18A | 18:20 |
| smcginnis | scottda: hehe | 18:21 |
| smcginnis | hemna: I think you are missing some content. @startuml is needed I think. | 18:21 |
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| smcginnis | @startuml/@enduml | 18:22 |
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| hemna | ok let me spend a bit of time on this language | 18:23 |
| hemna | I need to create something that looks like https://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/image/10360157/L.png | 18:23 |
| hemna | if it can do it.... | 18:23 |
| DuncanT | hemna: Can you pastebin the text version of that in gliffy? | 18:24 |
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| hemna | DuncanT, there is a way to collaborate on the gliffy site | 18:24 |
| hemna | DuncanT, I can invite you to edit the gliffy version | 18:24 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: ass.txt worked for me locally with the addition of the @startuml and @enduml tags, FWIW. | 18:24 |
| DuncanT | hemna: please do - duncan.thomas@gmail.com | 18:24 |
| hemna | DuncanT, sent | 18:25 |
| hemna | not sure what's wrong the platuml.jar refuses to see any files | 18:25 |
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| hemna | whoa | 18:26 |
| hemna | there we go | 18:26 |
| hemna | smcginnis, that was the magic sauce. I had to have both of those tags in there. | 18:26 |
| hemna | lame | 18:26 |
| hemna | ok I have something to hack on now....bbiab. | 18:26 |
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| hemna | man this language is complicated | 18:28 |
| hemna | to do something simple | 18:28 |
| hemna | :( | 18:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Karthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack/cinder: Cleanup for Volume Object https://review.openstack.org/300708 | 18:50 |
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| hemna | ok I give up on plantuml | 20:18 |
| hemna | the syntax is rediculously complex for trying to build the same diagram | 20:18 |
| Swanson | xyang1, Tiramisu question. Is there a reason we don't just use volume types for this? Enable/disable/failover volume_type? | 20:19 |
| hemna | doing simple things like making the diagram be in 2 columns is hard | 20:19 |
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| hemna | yEd almost was good enough | 20:28 |
| hemna | couldn't do arrows between boxes though. | 20:28 |
| hemna | *sigh* | 20:28 |
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| karthikp | tbarron, I am getting jenkins -1 when I updated line 662 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300708/3/cinder/volume/api.py@662 | 20:32 |
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| tbarron | karthikp: I saw that. Just tried to repro locally with your patch set and I don't hit that. | 20:33 |
| karthikp | Me too ..for me tox -e py27 passes | 20:34 |
| tbarron | karthikp: puzzling failure. | 20:34 |
| tbarron | karthikp: try reverting that line and let's see what happens. | 20:34 |
| karthikp | tbarron, shall i revert line 662 and submit another patchset? | 20:34 |
| tbarron | karthikp: I would, we might learn something at least. | 20:34 |
| karthikp | tbarron, or should I try with running tempest locally? | 20:35 |
| tbarron | karthikp: hold on, i thought it was a unit test failure. Looking ... | 20:35 |
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| smcginnis | Seems like there have been a lot of failures lately. Might be some gremlins in the gate. | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Saverio Proto proposed openstack/cinder: RBD: delete snapshots if missing in the backend https://review.openstack.org/300433 | 20:46 |
| hemna | smcginnis, dia seems to be able to do it. | 20:47 |
| hemna | and it's free | 20:47 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Sounds familiar. | 20:47 |
| jgriffith | hemna: http://plantuml.com/sequence.html#Skinparam | 20:48 |
| jgriffith | hemna: why not just make a proper sequence diagram? | 20:49 |
| jgriffith | Nova classes on the left, cinder classes on the left | 20:49 |
| jgriffith | or vice versa | 20:49 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: but having it start with "user/nova volume-attach xxxx, yyyy /dev/vdb" and sequence through? | 20:50 |
| jgriffith | I thought that's what you were trying to do? | 20:50 |
| hemna | I find them hard to follow | 20:50 |
| hemna | but it's probably 'better' | 20:50 |
| hemna | dunno | 20:50 |
| jgriffith | hemna: you find sequence diagrams hard to follow? | 20:51 |
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| tbarron | karthikp: i'm interested in the unit test failures, which seem bogus on the face of it. so if you wouldn't mind submitting again with that one line backed out we can see if the issue tracs with that change. | 20:51 |
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| hemna | that example, yes. maybe I'm dumb. | 20:52 |
| hemna | not sure how to combine 2 sequences into the same diagram | 20:52 |
| jgriffith | hemna: well you don't | 20:52 |
| hemna | as we have flows for nova calls, and cinder calls intermixed. | 20:52 |
| jgriffith | hemna: and we don't | 20:52 |
| hemna | https://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/image/10360157/L.png | 20:52 |
| jgriffith | hemna: it's all sequential either way.. hence "sequence" diagram | 20:52 |
| hemna | that just seems easy to follow to me. | 20:52 |
| karthikp | tbarron: doing that right now | 20:53 |
| jgriffith | hemna: yeah, honestly I don't know what you're trying to show me there other than a pretty picture | 20:53 |
| hemna | ok, then I'll just stop and someone else can do this | 20:53 |
| hemna | F it | 20:53 |
| jgriffith | hemna: now now | 20:53 |
| jgriffith | hemna: no need for that attitude | 20:53 |
| jgriffith | I wasn't even criticizing, just offering a suggestion when you said you couldn't get it to work | 20:54 |
| jgriffith | hemna: if you don't like the tool or seq diagram that's totally cool | 20:54 |
| scottda | I think that diagrams are good for getting everyone on the same page about what info needs to be passed around, where it is generated, where it is stored, etc. | 20:55 |
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| scottda | It seems we go round-and-round about implementation details, but we would benefit from a big picture view. | 20:55 |
| jgriffith | scottda: I agree with you WRT to diagrams being useful | 20:55 |
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| jgriffith | scottda: I wasn't arguing anything... except that using a closed-source tool that costs money probably ain't gonna fly | 20:56 |
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| jgriffith | scottda: sorry if that offends anyone | 20:56 |
| scottda | I agree with that part about wanting free+open_source tool | 20:56 |
| hemna | yup | 20:56 |
| hemna | that's why I spend the last few hours looking for something that actually worked | 20:56 |
| scottda | yeah! we agree. #end-meeting | 20:56 |
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| eharney | as a general heads up... i'm looking at some test failures and suspect that a mock 2.0.0 release today broke this thing: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/test.py#L104 | 20:56 |
| hemna | but plantuml is a pos | 20:56 |
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| hemna | so if someone else wants to do it in plantuml, go for it | 20:57 |
| hemna | I'm over it | 20:57 |
| hemna | dia seems to be able to produce the same output as the gliffy tool | 20:57 |
| tbarron | karthikp: look at ^^^^ eharney's remark a couple lines up. | 20:57 |
| hemna | but it's not a sequence diagram, so whatever | 20:57 |
| smcginnis | eharney: That could explain some things. | 20:57 |
| hemna | someone else can do it. | 20:57 |
| tbarron | karthikp: if we 'rm -rf .tox' we'll likely see the issue locally. | 20:58 |
| eharney | smcginnis: this method of detection looks pretty fishy to me in general, we may need to turn it off unless someone has a better idea for how to do it | 20:58 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Yeah _patch_mock just sounds a little odd. :) | 20:58 |
| eharney | smcginnis: i'll go ahead and start a patch to just remove it so we don't grind to a halt in the gate | 20:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Karthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack/cinder: Cleanup for Volume Object https://review.openstack.org/300708 | 21:00 |
| tbarron | karthikp: I did that and now it fails. | 21:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Potter proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Implement cinder backend-usage command https://review.openstack.org/301445 | 21:02 |
| tbarron | karthikp: now I'll back out that one line and see if it still fails. | 21:02 |
| tbarron | karthikp: it still fails, that line has nothing to do with it. mock 2.0 just got released at the same time that you made that update. | 21:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Remove "patch mock to raise for invalid assert calls" https://review.openstack.org/302439 | 21:05 |
| eharney | smcginnis: that will hopefully keep things rolling ^ | 21:06 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Awesome, thanks! | 21:06 |
| eharney | smcginnis: whether we should try doing this check in some other way, i'm not too sure. i'm inclined to just drop it, curious what others think | 21:06 |
| ntpttr | I was just about to ask about this mock stuff but I see it's a hot topic right now :) | 21:07 |
| * ntpttr reads scrollback | 21:07 | |
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| karthikp | tbarron, Sorry I just read message... I reverted back the line...Thanks. I believe the change was futile | 21:08 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Yeah, not sure if there's a good answer there. | 21:08 |
| tbarron | karthikp: well I suggested you do it :-) | 21:08 |
| tbarron | karthikp: after eharney's patch merges you can submit again with that line :-) | 21:09 |
| tbarron | karthikp: then we can see what breaks next ... | 21:09 |
| karthikp | tbarron, sure thing | 21:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/os-brick: Split out factory method https://review.openstack.org/302445 | 21:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jacob Gregor proposed openstack/cinder: Storwize: Multiple management IP not raising exceptions https://review.openstack.org/294268 | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Remove "patch mock to raise for invalid assert calls" https://review.openstack.org/302439 | 22:01 |
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| jgriffith | scottda: thanks for hosting | 22:10 |
| jgriffith | hemna: I look forward to seeing a WIP with the implementation you're proposing | 22:10 |
| jgriffith | hemna: if you're doing anything more than taking my patch and moving the create-attachment entry to reserve volume I'd be interested in hearing more. | 22:12 |
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| hemna | really, the only difference is 1) returning attachment_id in os-reserve and 2) passing in attachment_id into initialize_connection. | 22:13 |
| jgriffith | hemna: in other words there is no difference? | 22:13 |
| hemna | well, it's important | 22:13 |
| jgriffith | hemna: how come? | 22:13 |
| hemna | because initialize_connection can't find the correct attachment w/o it. | 22:14 |
| jgriffith | hemna: wait | 22:14 |
| jgriffith | first | 22:14 |
| jgriffith | answer that question... is there any difference then in the impl? | 22:14 |
| hemna | as I mentioned in the meeting, line 920 doesn't get you the correct attachment, you get a random attachment entry. | 22:14 |
| jgriffith | hemna: why can't initialize_connection not find something? And what is the "correct attachment" ? | 22:14 |
| jgriffith | hemna: umm... that's a stub because multi-attach is broken | 22:15 |
| jgriffith | but I can fix that | 22:15 |
| jgriffith | hemna: what I'm asking is how are you proposing to fix that? | 22:15 |
| hemna | and the attachment entry doesn't exist yet then. | 22:15 |
| jgriffith | hemna: sure it does... line 907 | 22:15 |
| jgriffith | but regardless.. how are you fixing it? | 22:16 |
| jgriffith | hemna: don't get me wrong, you may have the perfect solution | 22:16 |
| jgriffith | hemna: I want to understand | 22:16 |
| hemna | volume_attachment_get_used_by_volume_id doesn't create the entry | 22:16 |
| hemna | it searches for it. | 22:17 |
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| jgriffith | volume_attachment_get_used_by_volume_id doesn't create what? | 22:17 |
| hemna | the entry isn't created until later | 22:17 |
| jgriffith | ?? | 22:17 |
| hemna | the volume_attachment row | 22:17 |
| hemna | there is no entry in the volume_attachment table yet until later. | 22:17 |
| jgriffith | hemna: sure | 22:17 |
| jgriffith | hemna: that just means there's no existing attachment | 22:18 |
| jgriffith | so who cares? | 22:18 |
| hemna | so you aren't going to be working on the right attachment row in the db. | 22:18 |
| jgriffith | hemna: if there isn't an entry in the db it means nothings been attached so there is no such thing as a correct row | 22:18 |
| hemna | https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/manager.py#L986 | 22:19 |
| hemna | that's where the row is created | 22:19 |
| jgriffith | hemna: I don't understand your point at all | 22:19 |
| jgriffith | hemna: and clearly we already know that the code in master as it is doesn't work | 22:19 |
| hemna | line 947 in your code won'd do anything | 22:19 |
| hemna | it won't be updating the record in the DB, because it doesn't exist yet. | 22:19 |
| hemna | I don't know what else I can say to make that clear. | 22:20 |
| jgriffith | hemna: that creates the entry | 22:20 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: alright | 22:20 |
| hemna | my point is, you won't ever be able to find the correct attachment in initialize_connection because the db doesn't have it at initialize_conneciton time. | 22:20 |
| jgriffith | I'll leave it be then | 22:20 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: thanks for trying to explain it to me at least | 22:21 |
| hemna | sure, I hope that helped some. | 22:21 |
| jgriffith | hemna: honestly... no, not at all | 22:22 |
| jgriffith | hemna: in fact I found it more confusing than anything else | 22:22 |
| jgriffith | hemna: but that's on me | 22:22 |
| hemna | ok so for my understanding | 22:23 |
| hemna | the order of operations is | 22:23 |
| hemna | os-reserve | 22:23 |
| hemna | os-initialize_connection | 22:23 |
| hemna | os-attach | 22:23 |
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| jgriffith | There's no ambiguity there: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/attach_detach_conventions.html | 22:23 |
| jgriffith | That IS the order of operations | 22:23 |
| hemna | yah | 22:23 |
| jgriffith | hemna: I don't think we need to waste your time | 22:24 |
| hemna | the db record in volume_attachment doesn't get created until os-attach | 22:24 |
| jgriffith | hemna: Honestly, I appreciate you trying to explain but I don't think I'll understand your solution without seeing code | 22:24 |
| hemna | https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/manager.py#L986 | 22:24 |
| hemna | that's where the volume_attachment record is created | 22:24 |
| jgriffith | hemna: that's what I'm saying though, my proposal is in fact changing that to create the entry at initialize connection | 22:25 |
| hemna | ok I'm not seeing it in your WIP then | 22:26 |
| hemna | maybe that's why I'm confused | 22:26 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: line 1471 in the initialize_connection method you mean? | 22:32 |
| jgriffith | hemna: where it says "Treat every connection independtly....." | 22:32 |
| hemna | omg | 22:32 |
| hemna | gerrit completely mangled the diff | 22:33 |
| hemna | and had that code as part of attach | 22:33 |
| hemna | ! | 22:33 |
| hemna | lol | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | hemna: ohhhh | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | hemna: shit, I was trying to figure out WTF you were talking about | 22:33 |
| * hemna hates new gerrit UI | 22:33 | |
| jgriffith | hemna: I thought I was loosing what's left of my mind | 22:33 |
| hemna | seriously die!!! | 22:33 |
| hemna | so did I ! | 22:33 |
| hemna | omfg | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | hemna: FWIW, I set full context in my settings for this very reason | 22:33 |
| hemna | I didn't see it until I launched a new browser and hit the url again. | 22:34 |
| hemna | *sigh* | 22:34 |
| hemna | sorry man. | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | hemna: that's alright, I'm just really happy we figured out the disconnect there | 22:34 |
| hemna | man that was awful | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | hemna: It's kinda funny now :) | 22:35 |
| hemna | :) | 22:35 |
| hemna | yah | 22:35 |
| eharney | reminder, see this patch re: gate failures: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302439/ | 22:35 |
| eharney | later | 22:35 |
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| jgriffith | waiting for jenkins then I'll +2/A | 22:36 |
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| ildikov | hemna: jgriffith: if you've saved the world please add info to the etherpad for next week :) | 22:42 |
| hemna | ildikov, :) | 22:42 |
| * ildikov hates new Gerrit UI as well... | 22:43 | |
| mtanino | Are there an engineer from Nimble here? | 22:44 |
| Swanson | If there is please let their name be Jack. | 22:45 |
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| mtanino | Swanson: Jack? | 22:47 |
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| jgriffith | Swanson: or Mr. Quick | 23:37 |
| jgriffith | mtanino: it's an old nursery school rhyme | 23:40 |
| jgriffith | "Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, Jack jump over the candle stick" | 23:40 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: has a very warped sense of humor | 23:40 |
| mtanino | jgriffith: Ahh, it's a song. | 23:41 |
| mtanino | took one hour to understand that humor... ;) | 23:42 |
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| jgriffith | mtanino: :) | 23:45 |
| jgriffith | mtanino: it take a LOT longer than that to understand Swanson 's humor :) | 23:45 |
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