Wednesday, 2016-09-28

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openstackgerritVivek Agrawal proposed openstack/cinder: Adds metadata in search option for snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/37810500:40
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/cinder: Adjust doc about threading  https://review.openstack.org/36776802:15
openstackgerritLujin Luo proposed openstack/cinder: Add 'replication_targets' and 'display_name'  https://review.openstack.org/37816302:28
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openstackgerritHuang Zhiteng proposed openstack/cinder: Fix IndexError in volume manager  https://review.openstack.org/37817502:40
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openstackgerritgengchc2 proposed openstack/os-brick: Update flake8 ignore list  https://review.openstack.org/37819903:13
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openstackgerritVivek Agrawal proposed openstack/cinder: Adds metadata in search option for snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/37810503:40
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jgriffithhemna: as I said before I "am" saving the connector FWIW: see inline comment/response https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327408/1604:01
openstackgerritXinli Guan proposed openstack/cinder: Moving the OPTIONAL_FIELDS inside the OVO object group  https://review.openstack.org/37822004:02
jgriffithDuncanT: patrickeast and another one makes the right call :)  https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/docs/proposals/volume-provisioning.md#out-of-tree-provisioners04:03
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openstackgerritXinli Guan proposed openstack/cinder: OPTIONAL_FIELDS should be inside OVO object group_snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/37823104:31
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openstackgerritXinli Guan proposed openstack/cinder: OVO: OPTIONAL_FIELDS should be moved inside the OVO  https://review.openstack.org/37823604:44
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xinlieharney: I hit one issue when issuing tox -e py27, but I don't think that my code will cause the issue. any idea to debug? http://paste.openstack.org/show/583193/05:49
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openstackgerritNishant Kumar proposed openstack/cinder: Reuse already existing groups in tempest plugin  https://review.openstack.org/37580805:58
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xinligeguileo: could you please help to review these two patches? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378231/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378236/ which are the same improvement as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338542/06:02
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openstackgerritNishant Kumar proposed openstack/cinder: Reuse already existing groups in tempest plugin  https://review.openstack.org/37580806:24
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openstackgerritVivek Agrawal proposed openstack/cinder: Adds metadata in search option for snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/37810506:27
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openstackgerritArne Recknagel proposed openstack/os-brick: s390x iscsi support enablement  https://review.openstack.org/37541506:39
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openstackgerritCao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack/os-brick: Replace 'assertTrue(a not in b)' with 'assertNotIn(a, b)'  https://review.openstack.org/37828306:47
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/37829207:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/37829208:00
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openstackgerritTommyLike proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Add new admin actions to reset cg and cg snapshots status  https://review.openstack.org/37836408:23
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openstackgerritTuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/cinder: Avoid Forcing the Translation of Translatable Variables  https://review.openstack.org/37843709:01
openstackgerritLujin Luo proposed openstack/cinder: Add 'replication_targets' and 'display_name' in API docs  https://review.openstack.org/37816309:06
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openstackgerritCao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack/cinder: Files with no code must be left completely empty  https://review.openstack.org/37846909:32
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openstackgerritxianming.mao proposed openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext: Drop directory openstack/common in flake8 exclude list.  https://review.openstack.org/37598110:45
openstackgerritxianming.mao proposed openstack/os-brick: Delete deprecated Hacking in tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/37402510:46
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openstackgerritmichaeldovgal proposed openstack/cinder: Speed up ibm storwize svc driver's tests  https://review.openstack.org/37633610:55
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openstackgerritxianming.mao proposed openstack/os-brick: Add developer docs url in README.rst(trivial)  https://review.openstack.org/37609111:49
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Cleanup lintstack exceptions related to objects  https://review.openstack.org/37857912:32
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor backup RPC API test cases  https://review.openstack.org/37858512:37
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor backup RPC API test cases  https://review.openstack.org/37858513:10
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor backup RPC API test cases  https://review.openstack.org/37858513:12
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xinlihemna: Could you please help to review these two patches:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378231/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378236/ which are the same improvement as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338542/13:34
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dulekhemna, jgriffith, ildikov, scottda: Had you seen Nova Ops feedback etherpad (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-Nova)?14:05
dulekI loved that part:14:05
dulekWill/Does nova support multi-attach cinder volumes yet?14:05
dulekM? No.14:05
dulekN? Working on it. It's within shot.14:05
dulekO? If it isn't here, riot.14:05
smcginnis:)14:06
guitarza1that's awesome14:06
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scottdahaha14:06
scottdasmcginnis: Well, that does lead to some questions about priorities in O14:07
dulekWe don't want any riots, do we? ;)14:07
scottdaShort release, and focus on testing/stability, but we've in-flight AA/HA, multi-attach, and cinder-nova API changes. Hopefully, that's not too much.14:07
smcginnisscottda: I consider the attach/detach stuff work in progress that we need to finish up. As part of the "stabilization" part. ;)14:08
guitarzanI'm just waiting for the data corruption riots myself :)14:08
smcginnisguitarzan: That will come next. :D14:08
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dulekHey, on the other side ops state that most of them are still on Liberty, so we probably have a year between Ocata release and it being deployed.14:10
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* dulek wonders if that isn't actually sad…14:10
smcginnisTrue14:10
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove support for 2.x volume RPC API  https://review.openstack.org/37240514:12
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactore volume RPC API test cases  https://review.openstack.org/37865814:12
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scottdadulek: Looks like the average release is Kilo14:13
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove support for 2.x scheduler RPC API  https://review.openstack.org/37144714:13
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor scheduler RPC API test cases  https://review.openstack.org/37865914:13
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor backup RPC API test cases  https://review.openstack.org/37858514:13
scottda3 votes on Kilo, 4 before kilo (I&J) 4 after kilo (L)14:13
dulek^ Yesterday I've spent 6 hours on a train without access to the Internet. Most productive time this week. :)14:14
scottdaFrom that etherpad L#47 "Problem: states are hard. attached-->attaching-->attached ;; detaching-->attached"14:15
scottdaLooks like that is confirmed from our lengthy conversations yesterday.14:15
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msnoHi Guyz14:19
msnoin an openstack mitaka based setup.. i am not able to create a snaphot of an instance which is booted from volume14:19
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msnoits gives error .. snapshot size is zero14:20
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/os-brick: test  https://review.openstack.org/37866514:20
eharneywell that wasn't supposed to go there...14:20
smcginniseharney: Hah14:21
smcginnismsno: What are you using for your backend storage? Any logs to look at?14:21
msnosmcginnis, backend storage is VSA14:22
msnoi wanted to know igf its a expected behavior14:22
msnoi am not taking an volume snapshot of the boot from volume .. volume14:22
msnoinstead a instance snapshot14:22
smcginnismsno: Oh? Might want to ask on #openstack-nova then. But I believe that's expected to work.14:23
msnosmcginnis, ok.. i checked in openstack-nova though14:23
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johnthetubaguythat sounds correct btw, the glance snapshot just references the volume snapshot14:24
johnthetubaguyyou would have to do a volume export into glance to get the data bits into glance14:24
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johnthetubaguyyou should be able to boot another nova instance from that snapshot, and it does boot from volume, but I don't 100% remember14:25
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johnthetubaguymsno: in case that info helps ^14:25
smcginnisjohnthetubaguy: Thanks. I know I've done that at some point.14:26
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msnojohnthetubaguy, hmm.. interesting .. here the snapshot is not even getting created ..14:26
johnthetubaguyglance v2 actually gets a bit confusing around that, as we have to give it a fake container and volume type to keep their schema checking happy14:26
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johnthetubaguymsno: what errors are you seeing?14:27
msnonot in cinder snapshot-list and in nova snapshot-list14:27
msnolet me check.. but what i wanted to know is..14:27
johnthetubaguynova snapshot-list is probably not what you think it is14:27
msnoits suppose o work .. right?14:27
johnthetubaguyit should appear in glance image-list14:27
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johnthetubaguymsno: more info in here on the current state of that snapshot API: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#volume-extension-os-volumes-os-snapshots-deprecated14:28
msnojohnthetubaguy, yes.. you are right.. in glance image-list its showing this snapshot .. and its zero size14:29
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johnthetubaguythats expected14:29
msnobut i will be still able to launch an instance .. right?14:29
johnthetubaguyit should have metadata that points to the cinder snapshot14:29
johnthetubaguyand that gets used by nova a boot time to create your disk14:29
msnogot it.. ok.. so if i want to take a backup of this .. can i just try doing a glance image download of this snapshot14:30
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msnoi guess .. it wont work14:30
johnthetubaguyright, you can't use glance to download those snapshots14:31
johnthetubaguybut it should tell you what the cinder snapshot uuid is, so you can export it from cinder14:31
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msnojohnthetubaguy, in that case.. i have to detach this volume from nova .. since its in attached-state .. take a cinder volume snapshot..which adds it to glance .. then download it from glance ?14:32
msnoafaik14:33
johnthetubaguyit shouldn't need all that14:33
msnoelse .. just take the lun backup of the volume from VSA and use it in another cloud14:33
johnthetubaguythe snapshot should have already been taken14:33
msnooh ok..14:33
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johnthetubaguyits uuid should be attached to the glance image as metadata14:34
msnoyes.. now i can see the cinder snapshot which matches the UUID .. to glance image-list data of snapshot14:35
msnoso what should i do with the conder volume .. which is a snapshot14:35
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johnthetubaguythats what smcginnis can help you with better than me, I thought there was a way to export that or something14:38
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smcginnismsno: So you want to create a backup of this snapshot to import into another cloud?14:38
msnosmcginnis, exactly14:39
msnofor a boot from volume instance14:39
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smcginnismsno: So you should be able to create a backup of the snapshot with cinder backup-create $snapshot_id14:40
smcginnishttp://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide/blockstorage-volume-backups.html14:40
msnook..14:40
msnoperfect.. i will check the documents14:40
smcginnismsno: Then export/import: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide/blockstorage-volume-backups-export-import.html14:40
msnosmcginnis, johnthetubaguy thanks a lot guyz14:41
smcginnismsno: Then restore after importing to your other cloud.14:41
smcginnismsno: No problem. Good luck.14:41
msnook14:41
johnthetubaguyno worries14:41
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xinli@smcginnis: could you please help to review this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378220/14:45
smcginnisxinli: I'll try to take a look later.14:46
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove ovo[fixtures] dependency from tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/33945514:46
dulekgeguileo: Should I +W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290885/? I would feel pity to do that without asking as it conflicts with 6 of your patches. :(14:48
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xinli@smcginnis: thx14:50
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geguileodulek: thanks for the consideration14:53
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eharneydulek: i just added a question there anyway to conveniently slow it down :)14:55
geguileodulek: You can go ahead, I'll just go through another rebase hell with the A/A patches  XD14:55
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dulekeharney: Ha, a good one. Thanks for stopping me from making a difficult decision. ;)14:59
dulekgeguileo: I'm still afraid to take a look at RequestSpec object patches after the introduction of generic volume groups.15:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Allow attribute lazy loading in VolumeType OVO  https://review.openstack.org/36760515:02
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Add VolumeAttachStatus Enum  https://review.openstack.org/29088515:02
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scottdaeharney, xyang1, gouthamr, akerr, smcginnis, cFouts, e0ne, geguileo, dulek, flip214, ntpttr patrickeast, _alastor_, DuncanT, erlon15:03
scottdaTest Talk15:03
scottda#startmeeting cinder_testing15:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder_testing'15:03
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geguileodulek: Yeah, I had to make some changes to A/A for that as well  :-(15:03
dulekhi!15:03
geguileoHi!15:03
eharneyhi15:04
eharney!15:04
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scottdaAs usual, we've no agenda.15:04
scottdaSo, feel free to speak up about any test efforts/issues/info15:04
scottdaIt's be nice to figure out what we'd like to talk about at the Summit...15:05
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scottda#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cinder-designsummit-planning15:06
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scottdaI put a Subject for Test on the agenda. Feel free to put stuff there.15:06
dulekIf we're going to make Ocata a stabilization release (BTW - when we'll decide that? Was it already decided?), then this will be important working session.15:07
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scottdadulek: Agreed. That's why It'd be nice to start capturing ideas and details, prior to the scheduling of the sessions.15:07
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scottdadulek: I think it was decided when we re-elected smcginnis , who campaigned saying that's what he envisioned for O?15:08
smcginnisdulek: Decided. ;)15:08
scottdaSee? What Great Leader said^^15:08
smcginnisscottda: And yes, that will be important. I'm hoping to add some plans there.15:08
* smcginnis is in another meeting as usual right now...15:09
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dulekOh, is voting for smcginnis in TC elections a vote to make O a stabilization release for whole OpenStack? I'm convinced then. :D15:09
smcginnisLOl15:09
scottdageguileo: I think test efforts for AA/HA are important for getting it all merged into O.15:09
geguileoscottda: I agree15:09
geguileoscottda: I'm now banging my head against my desk to make replication work in A/A environments15:10
scottdaouch15:10
geguileoscottda: Because I somehow forgot about it  :'-(15:10
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geguileoscottda: I'll try to get it fixed this week and update the post15:11
geguileoscottda: But we have to decide how we want to test this15:11
geguileoOn a conceptual level I mean15:11
scottdageguileo: We had great success merging a bunch of a/a patches at the midcycle. I think we should be prepared for another round of that at the summit.15:11
geguileoscottda: That would definitely make me happy  :-)15:11
dulekscottda: +1!15:12
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scottdaYeah, testing A/A has proven to be tricky. Your manual steps are great, but we need efforts to do more of the automation, etc.15:12
* scottda is guilty of not spending time on A/A tests.15:12
geguileoscottda: Yeah, automation is key15:12
geguileoscottda: But we have to decide to what level we want to test it15:13
scottdageguileo: Well some things are probably out of scope, like the idea of error-injection.15:13
geguileoscottda: Out of the scope of the initial tests or in general?15:13
scottdaThat will probably have to come later, and start in someone's lab.15:14
scottdaJust outside initial tests.15:14
scottdaI think if we gate the merge of AA patches on those tests, we won't get it in O15:14
scottdajust my opinion.15:14
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scottdaIt seems within reach to create basic functional tests, running in a multi-node cinder devstack.15:15
scottdaI would guess start with the experimental jobs.15:16
geguileoscottda: Sounds reasonable to me15:16
geguileoscottda: So we should create test cases we'll cover initially15:17
geguileoscottda: But I'm not so sure how we'll test that the A/A part is actually working15:17
scottdayeah, that is tricky...15:18
scottdaOf course some of the testing is that normal operations don't get broken. We get that for free just having the A/A code running.15:20
dulekWhy don't we get same tactic like with rolling upgrades? It's experimental until we've set up CI testing it?15:21
scottdaI think the worrisome parts are around failure cases and cleanup. i.e. could we accidentally have a volume attached to 2 instances.15:21
openstackgerritDavid Sariel proposed openstack/cinder: Hacking checks for H105  https://review.openstack.org/37771415:21
scottdadulek: Yes, that seems like the right path.15:21
openstackgerritDavid Sariel proposed openstack/cinder: Hacking checks for H105  https://review.openstack.org/37771415:21
dulekThe only problem would be that it can break something that's working already, but well… This means our Tempest tests set is too narrow.15:22
openstackgerritBartek Å»urawski proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume type name into volume notification  https://review.openstack.org/37870015:22
scottdadulek: Right. IF our tempest coverage were complete, we'd at least know that we hadn't broken anything.15:22
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scottdaBut what about the idea of what worries people have? Is there anything besides the data corruption case where a mistake in cleanup of 'attaching' or 'detaching' volumes results in an unwanted multi-attach?15:24
dulekYeah, but what I mean is that we're breaking stuff that's not tempest-tested all the time anyway. Getting A/A early in Ocata is the best course of action for us.15:24
scottdaI've had a hard time thinking of other bad scenarios.15:24
scottdadulek: +1 to getting it in early15:24
openstackgerritDavid Sariel proposed openstack/cinder: Hacking checks for H105  https://review.openstack.org/37771415:24
smcginnisdulek: +115:24
scottdaI'm for planning a big Merge-Fest for this Friday :)15:24
erlondulek: +115:25
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scottdaMaybe we should bring this subject up at the main Cinder meeting? Seems like there's only a few of us here ATM.15:26
DuncanTscottda: Definitely15:26
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scottdaI'll just put it on the agenda now. You OK with that geguileo ?15:26
geguileoscottda: Having a merge-fest this Friday?15:27
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openstackgerritDavid Sariel proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37870515:27
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scottdahaha...no, I meant OK with discussing the state of A/A and getting it in soon and what's left and maybe the Merge Fest ; all at today's Cinder meeting.15:27
scottdaBasically this discussion we're having here and now.15:28
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scottdaI don't want to wait for Barcelona to start this discussion with the wider community.15:28
geguileoscottda: Yes, I think it's a great idea15:28
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scottdaAnd, yes, I think if, as a community, we were committed to getting this in the O release, we should get it in soon. Like, before the Summit.15:29
geguileoscottda: I agree, we want it asap so we can detect bugs, corner cases, etc.15:29
geguileoOtherwise it's only going to get half in15:29
DuncanTIf we merge very early in the cycle, we've plenty of time to fix things up. Hopefully we'll have some initial testiing results for the summit.... those are far more interesting than reitterating plans15:29
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scottdaOK, I'm putting it on the agenda now.15:30
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dulekNext topic?15:32
scottdadulek: Sure15:32
dulekhttps://goo.gl/Vmwifv - multinode grenade job is voting quite consistently for ~a month now.15:32
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dulekBig red bar is the moment when scheduling of typeless volumes was broken - this job creates typeless volumes actually.15:33
scottdadulek: Looks good. Are you proposing making it voting?15:33
dulekscottda: Yup, I'll send an email to openstack-dev soon unless someone has an objection.15:34
erlondulek: is it possible to add other jenkins jobs in the graph to compare?15:34
dulekSo - is anything wrong that I don't know about? :)15:34
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dulekerlon: Yeah, I need to sit down and get friendly with Graphite before posting on ML.15:35
erlondulek: nice15:35
scottdadulek: There don't seem to be any objections.15:36
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: extract_host: Handle empty host string input  https://review.openstack.org/37871915:36
dulekI'll just write the email tomorrow and get more broad feedback. Thanks!15:37
scottdaNext subject? or is there another subject?15:37
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scottdaOK, talk again in 20 minutes15:39
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scottda#endmeeting15:39
openstackMeeting ended Wed Sep 28 15:39:33 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:39
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geguileoThanks!15:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: OPTIONAL_FIELDS should be inside OVO object group_snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/37823115:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: OVO: OPTIONAL_FIELDS should be moved inside the OVO  https://review.openstack.org/37823615:42
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msnosmcginnis, does 'cinder snapshot-unmanage ' and 'cinder snapshot-manage' work for copying a cinder snapshot to another setup?15:49
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smcginnismsno: No, those are for bringing in a snapshot created outside of cinder to have it now managed by cinder and vice versa.15:52
DuncanTmsno: Only if both cinders share the same storage backend (not the backend type, the same single physical array)15:52
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DuncanTmsno: You can use backup and backup export / import to move volumes between installations, but the performance might leave something to be desired15:54
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msnoDuncanT, i just tried 'cinder backup-create ' on a cinder snapshot  and it failed.. but when i did it in a actual volume .. its working .. expected?15:55
DuncanTmsno: What version of cinder? Backing up snapshots should work15:55
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msnoDuncanT, ok.. i will check it .. let me try the export stuff.. which i should do after the 'cinder create-backup' .. right?15:56
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DuncanTmsno: When the backup is listed as available, yes15:57
msnook.. thankyou DuncanT15:57
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: extract_host: Handle empty host string input  https://review.openstack.org/37871916:07
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ildikovdulek: I was attending that meet up and answered multi attach questions16:10
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dulekildikov: I guess it was fun. :)16:10
ildikovdulek: we had a nostalgic, it is still needed moment with TWC guys...16:11
scottdaildikov: We just discussed in-flight features for O release. Some (hemna ) thought multi-attach might not make it, whereas others (jgriffith ) thought it might.16:11
ildikovI think it came up or was in the air to get priority for this thing in Nova16:12
hemnaif jgriffith thinks he can get it in, then cool16:12
dulekI think we should just make sure we'll do everything to merge it in O.16:12
hemnaIt seems like a lot for a 'stabilization' release16:12
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jgriffithi don't know why multi-attach seems so hard.  Once you fix the broken API's it should be pretty easy16:13
ildikovSo I think if we don't do anything with the new API plans in O, then it will never happen16:13
scottdahemna: Agreed, but I think Sean's definition of stablization includes getting in-flight multi-release stuff done, and holding off on any new proposals16:13
ildikovAnd if we have the new API multi attach is kind of there out of the box16:13
hemnajgriffith, well, considering that I've tried 5 releases to get it working......16:13
hemnaanyway, I'm all for it getting in.16:14
ildikovIt needs extensive testing, but the code part is not an issue, I mean no huge code change needed16:14
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ildikovjgriffith: +1, I completely agree16:15
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove ovo[fixtures] dependency from tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/33945516:32
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smcginnisWow, next meeting is October already.16:43
scottdaYeah man. This is going to go by really fast.16:44
jgriffithscottda: unlike my middle seat in the back of the plane to Barcelona16:44
jgriffithscottda: that's not going to go by really fast :(16:44
smcginnisjgriffith: Hah, really?16:44
jgriffithsmcginnis: sigh... yes :(16:45
openstackgerritAlyson proposed openstack/cinder: Fix HNAS Driver KeyError exception in volume manage  https://review.openstack.org/37861616:45
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smcginnisjgriffith: First time I went to Japan, there and back, last row, middle seat, limited recline, with a vent box blocking under the seat in front of me.16:45
smcginnis== hell16:45
jgriffithsmcginnis: I was at least able to upgrade to eco-plus on the leg out, but coming back is full full full16:45
jgriffithsmcginnis: haha!  I think I have had that same seat a couple times on United to London :)16:46
smcginnisjgriffith: Just call them up and say "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!!!?" I heard that works. :P16:46
erlonjungleboyj: ping16:46
scottdajgriffith: Tell them you are bringing a baby.16:46
jgriffithI hope there's a VERY large turn out of European and Asian folks at the summit to justify the continued international tour16:46
jungleboyjerlon: Pong.16:47
jgriffithscottda: LOL... I don't think they care if the baby sits in my lap16:47
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erlonjungleboyj: hey Jay16:47
jgriffithfull flight is a full flight16:47
erlonjungleboyj: you pinged me another day16:47
SwansonSo, swim.16:47
jgriffithsmcginnis: I should've expected a comment like that from you :)16:47
jgriffitherrr... Swanson16:47
smcginnis;)16:48
jgriffithit's alright, I'll likely just sleep anyway.  At least I get to go16:48
smcginnisjgriffith: True16:48
jungleboyjerlon: Oh, was letting you know that I had added a dependency upon the patch in Nova that I found fixes the timeout on delete of snapshots associated with an instance.16:48
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winston-d_Sadly I think I will miss the coming summit this time.16:49
jungleboyjNow the gate job passes.16:49
erlonjungleboyj: hmm, ok, I saw that16:49
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smcginniswinston-d_: Oh no, that's a bummer. No chance it will work out yet?16:49
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erlonjungleboyj: but, the job gate runs in a ubuntu 14.04, that has libvirt 1.2.216:50
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SwansonThe more packed the plane and the longer the flight the more likely I am to have to be subdued by the flight crew. Or mixing medication with alcohol. Which, so long as I keep breathing is probably the flight crew's preference.16:50
erlonjungleboyj: I had passed sometimes with me too, but that does not make much sense16:50
winston-d_We have very tight budget control in Q4, I fought but didn't get approval.16:50
smcginnisSwanson: I can't imagine you stuck on a plane for several hours.16:51
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37879316:51
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erlonjungleboyj: http://logs.openstack.org/86/147186/39/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-plugin-nfs-nv/6f620bc/logs/dpkg-l.txt.gz16:52
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erlonjungleboyj: hmmmmm, maybe the test is not exercising both commit/rebase??16:53
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jungleboyjerlon: What do you mean?16:55
erlonjungleboyj: there are 2 situations that happen when you delete a snapshot of an attached volume16:57
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jungleboyjerlon: Right.  I tried both of them by hand and they worked once the patch for NOva is applied.16:58
erlonjungleboyj: 1 is you delete the first snapshot, and the other is when you delete the last snapshot16:58
jungleboyjerlon: Yep.16:58
erlonjungleboyj: using libvirt 1.2.216:59
jungleboyjerlon: This was on libvirt 1.2.1216:59
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erlonhmm, do you have a easy way to downgrade that to 1.2.2 and test again17:01
jungleboyjI could do it on a VM where I didn't upgrade.17:01
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erlonjungleboyj: ok, then we can assure that is not working (it should not), then, if you run tempest test test_snapshot_create_with_volume_in_use and it PASS, the test should be improved17:04
erlonjungleboyj: Ill add some changes on this test to cover that paths anyways, but good to be sure17:05
jungleboyjerlon: Fair enough.17:05
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winston-d_I got a './cinder/tests/unit/test_volume.py:422:9: F841 local variable 'vol2' is assigned to but never used' in my change, but this vol2 is actually useful and should stay in the change.  How can I stop pep8 from complaining/17:10
winston-d_put a '#noqa' right after the 'vol2' line?17:11
eharneywinston-d: i think that you can prefix it with "_" to say "i don't care that it's unused"17:11
eharneywinston-d: i.e. rename it to "_vol2"17:11
winston-d_eharney: ah, will try that. thx!17:13
eharneybut in my quick test, maybe that no longer works (or i'm misremembering)17:14
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winston-d_eharney: it's working for me locally, i'll submit a new patchset and see how it works with Jenkins pep8.17:18
winston-d_wait, it is not.  hmm, have to figure another way.17:22
eharneywinston-d: it didn't for me either, but, i'm about 99.9% sure i've used this before in Cinder17:23
eharneywinston-d: #noqa should work, was just hoping for the less-messy option17:24
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openstackgerritHuang Zhiteng proposed openstack/cinder: Fix IndexError in volume manager  https://review.openstack.org/37817517:30
eharneynice solution :)17:32
winston-d_eharney: ;)17:32
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR use OSLO versioned Object for volume  https://review.openstack.org/33914717:35
SwansonNeato...  stderr=iscsiadm: invalid error code 6528017:40
hemnaSwanson, ?17:40
SwansonOh, just looking at the oddities when I get a volume attach failure.17:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Ceph doesn't save a container name for volume backup  https://review.openstack.org/34541117:49
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openstackgerritCheng Li proposed openstack/os-brick: Close connection to ceph after cinder bakcup  https://review.openstack.org/37894518:05
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Add VolumeAttachStatus Enum  https://review.openstack.org/29088518:11
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patrickeasthemna: fun update with that multipath thing, still tinkering around with figuring out where exactly things go sideways, but found the point where things are definitely wrong: http://paste.openstack.org/show/583361/18:49
patrickeasthemna: check out the mpath id not matching the wwn we grab from page 8318:49
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hemnalooking18:50
patrickeasthemna: when it switches from the new direct to id to the slower multipath -ll call18:50
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hemnathis is a different volume ?18:50
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patrickeastwell18:50
patrickeastits the same as far as cinder/nova is concerned18:50
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patrickeastbut apparently mpathd and linux have something else to say about it18:50
hemnawtf18:51
patrickeasti know right18:51
hemnahow the hell is that happening?18:51
hemnadid we ask the right volume for the page 83 wwn ?18:51
patrickeasthopefully i'll have more time this afternoon to dig in more18:51
hemnamultipath gets the wwn from page 8318:52
patrickeasti think so, lemmie check more of the log...18:52
patrickeastyea18:52
* hemna wonders if there is a stale cached entry internally to the mpath devmap18:52
patrickeasti'm wondering if maybe some other dm-X device or dangling sdx device broke things18:52
patrickeasthaha yea18:52
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hemnawhat was the old /dev/sdf wwn ?18:52
* patrickeast looking18:53
hemnathis would be a really shitty multipath bug18:53
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patrickeasthrm18:55
patrickeastso we check page 83 on /dev/disk/by-path/ip-10.0.1.10:3260-iscsi-iqn.2010-06.com.purestorage:flasharray.3adbe40b49bac873-lun-218:55
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patrickeastto get that first one18:55
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hemnais that the bf93 wwn ?  or the bf2618:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext: Add oslo.concurrency to requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37724718:57
patrickeastthe bf3a one18:57
hemnauhh18:57
patrickeasthere one sec lemmie just start a tmate thing again, probably easier than live tweeting as i grep18:57
hemnaoh yah sorry18:57
hemnaok18:57
patrickeastso i just saw something interesting if i grep for the mapper id that it falls back to and tries to use18:58
patrickeastthat one was the mapper from the encrypted volume test18:58
patrickeastand there is no way it should be the same wwn as the volume from the advanced ops test19:00
hemnathe wwn should be unique and created by the array and stuffed into page 83 of the device19:00
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Re-use RBDImageMetadata and RBDVolumeIOWrapper from os-brick  https://review.openstack.org/32699919:01
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hemnawow19:01
hemnaso yah brick says scsi_wwn: ....bf3a   but /dev/mapper/....bf2619:01
hemnaw i t f19:01
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xinlie0ne: I will abandon this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378028/19:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext: Drop MANIFEST.in  https://review.openstack.org/37521419:19
e0nexinli: it's up to you. I just want to clarify if any openstack guideline exists for such changes19:20
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xinlie0ne: It's to follow up Michal's comment that "It missing a comma", I agree it not a problem, I will add it combine with other patch.19:22
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xinlie0ne: I will verify with dulek.19:23
e0nexinli: ok, thanks19:23
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xinlie0ne: thank you very much for your code reviewing19:23
e0nexinli: you're welcome! thanks for the contribution19:24
openstackgerritKarthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack/cinder: Switch service capabilities to ovo  https://review.openstack.org/31904019:24
openstackgerritKarthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack/cinder: Refactoring total_capacity_gb & free_capacity_gb in capabilities  https://review.openstack.org/37497119:24
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alonmarxcan someone help review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360394 ?19:39
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openstackgerritErlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: NFS snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/14718619:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Remove ovo[fixtures] dependency from tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/33945520:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-cinderclient: AttributeError when print service object  https://review.openstack.org/33159620:03
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/os-brick: linuxfc: log path when HBA not found  https://review.openstack.org/37898820:13
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hemnapatrickeast, any luck ?20:19
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patrickeasthemna: nothing groundbreaking, keep getting pulled away for other things20:19
hemnaok20:20
patrickeasthemna: i did see some improvements by turning off the encrypted volume tests... they seem to trigger something bad with multipathd20:20
hemnathat's quite odd20:20
hemnaI'm really concerned about the scsi_id thing20:20
patrickeasthemna: sorta, they are both using dev mapper devices20:21
patrickeastyea20:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-brick: s390x iscsi support enablement  https://review.openstack.org/37541520:21
patrickeasti'm pretty sure it used the cm crypt device with the old scsi_id20:21
patrickeastdm*20:21
patrickeasthow/why is still a mystery20:22
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hemnado you have the log of it finding the scsi_id and then looking for the /dev/mapper/<id> and then the fallback to calling multipath -l <device>20:22
patrickeastyea somewhere20:24
* patrickeast digs around20:24
hemnaok20:24
patrickeastmost of its in the paste earlier, iirc that started just after it does the scsi_id call20:24
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patrickeasthemna: hrm guess i don't have the original log, but i've got this output in my notes http://paste.openstack.org/show/583380/20:29
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patrickeastits got teh scsi_id call20:30
patrickeastand then it failing to find a device, falling back to a different dev/mapper20:30
hemnaok I see it getting a wwn20:31
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patrickeastthere some debug output missing where it does multipath -l /dev/sdf and grabs that other id20:31
hemnathen going through it's attempt to find the mpath device20:31
hemnawhich fails20:31
patrickeastyea the paths aren't showing up20:32
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hemnahttps://github.com/openstack/os-brick/blob/master/os_brick/initiator/connectors/base.py#L9020:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Add 'replication_targets' and 'display_name' in API docs  https://review.openstack.org/37816320:34
hemnaso that's the code that does the discovery20:34
hemnathe wwn is passed in20:34
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hemnahttps://github.com/openstack/os-brick/blob/master/os_brick/initiator/connectors/iscsi.py#L43320:36
hemnahmmm20:36
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hemnamaybe there is a bug there20:36
patrickeasthmm yea, could be20:37
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hemnaso the first thing we do is rescan_iscsi20:37
patrickeastdoesn't make sense why it works on all the other os's though20:37
hemnayah that part I dunno20:39
hemnabut we build the list of possible paths that might show up20:39
hemnahttps://github.com/openstack/os-brick/blob/master/os_brick/initiator/connectors/iscsi.py#L54320:39
hemnabasically there20:39
hemnaand the first path that we find in that list, we eject and say we found it.20:40
hemnathen we try and find a mpath device associated with that volume.....20:40
hemnawhich is first via the scsi wwn of that discovered path.20:40
hemnawhich fails20:40
hemnaand we fallback to multipath -d <realpath of the first path in the list>20:41
hemnaerr multipath -l20:41
patrickeastyea20:41
hemnaso....20:42
hemnaI think host_devices contains all of the possible paths20:42
hemnawhen we do the https://github.com/openstack/os-brick/blob/master/os_brick/initiator/connectors/iscsi.py#L433 call20:42
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hemnawhich I believe will just give us the first one that passes the os.path.exists(dev)20:43
hemnawhich theoretically could be an old volume with the same iqn lun combo20:43
patrickeasthmm true20:44
hemnabut an incorrect wwn20:44
hemnain the case of the race20:44
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patrickeastim adding in a bunch of a debug info we've been talking about, maybe i'll add in a dump of all the scsi ids20:44
patrickeastcheck each one and log em20:44
mriedemsmcginnis: so!20:44
mriedemsmcginnis: summit sessions20:44
hemnaso for the 3PAR I can get the wwn from the array at the time I create the volume/export20:44
patrickeastyea we can do that too20:45
mriedemsmcginnis: sdague suggested we do a nova/cinder multiattach session as a cross-project session in barcelona,20:45
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mriedemso we don't eat up design summit slots20:45
patrickeasti was thinking of adding it to be part of the initialize connection dict20:45
mriedemsmcginnis: what do you think?20:45
patrickeastand in os-brick raise an error if it doesn't match20:45
hemnapatrickeast, ok yah dump out all of the host_devices and their scsi_id's  prior to line 43320:45
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hemnapatrickeast, yah that's kinda what I'm thinking20:45
hemnawe can validate the volume paths based on that.20:45
smcginnismriedem: That makes sense.20:45
patrickeasthemna: definitely seems like the safe thing20:45
smcginnismriedem: Are there enough cross project slots available thought...20:46
hemnayah I think so20:46
patrickeasthemna: rather than some connection using a bad path20:46
smcginnis*though20:46
hemnathat can be used for both FC and iSCSI20:46
patrickeastyep, probably any volume attachment really20:46
patrickeastwell20:47
patrickeastblock volume attachment, none of the nfs business20:47
mriedemsmcginnis: yeah20:49
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mriedemso i'll add something20:49
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* hemna is also playing with pyudev.....20:50
scottdamriedem: smcginnis Should multi-attach session include or be encompassed by cinder-nova APi changes? The two are pretty tightly coupled.20:51
smcginnisscottda: At least it would have to be after that discussion if they were separate, but I agree it should be part of the same conversation.20:52
mriedemso, the cinder api rework is a pre-req for multiattach20:52
mriedemso given the schedule it seems to make sense to do the xp session on the cinder api rework20:53
mriedemand then another design summit session for follow up if needed20:53
mriedemnova probably has more slots than we need so we could pencil that is20:53
mriedem*in20:53
scottdaThat sounds right.20:53
smcginnisOkey dokey20:53
mriedemsdague: i thought you said there were 18 xp slots? i only see 6 here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cross-project-sessions20:55
sdaguemriedem: 6 time blocks20:55
sdaguethere can be 2 - 4 tracks at a time20:55
mriedemah20:55
sdagueunless that changed again20:55
mriedem"Slots (6), we can use up to 4 parallel fishbowl rooms (but probably should not)"20:55
smcginnisAh, makes sense.20:55
sdaguewe were running 3x in the last 3 summits20:56
smcginnisThat could quickly turn into a nightmare.20:56
mriedemyeah i guess the point of the xp sessions is you want the actual projects to show up right?20:56
sdagueso I would assume that 18 is going to be the final number20:56
sdaguemriedem: some appropriate representation at least20:56
smcginnismriedem: We can always follow up on the work sessions, but half a day for that isn't going to give us a lot of time either.20:57
sdaguebut a ton of people just skip, or are bored with meta conversations without concrete outcomes, so putting some more focussed things up for consideration would be a good call20:57
sdaguethe worst thing that can happen is people say "no, you have to put it in your own track"20:57
sdaguebut at this point people weren't proposing things largely because they were told not to in the past20:58
smcginnissdague: I think that has been our problem the last couple times as far as making progress. Hopefully we've gotten concrete enough to make progress now.20:58
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sdaguealso realize the work sessions are going to all be at the same time, like 34 running in parallel on the Friday afternoon from 2 - 6 (iirc)20:59
sdagueso... I would not anticipate that to be a great time to work on cross project issues20:59
smcginnisyikes. Good point20:59
mriedemnova won't get much done friday afternoon21:00
sdaguesome substantial # of folks will have left, lots of people will be super burnt out21:00
mriedemall of the red hat people from the eu are leaving21:00
smcginnisOK, scratch that idea. We'll have to try to get as much done as we can in a xp session.21:00
patrickeasthemna: ok, re-running to try and repro with all the extra logging21:06
hemnaok21:06
patrickeastsent a new tmate session if you wanna poke anything21:06
patrickeasti gotta run to more meetings :*(21:07
hemnaI have a beating at 2:30 as well21:07
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hemnapatrickeast, ok so I found another way to do volume discovery21:08
hemnaand fetching the scsi wwn21:08
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mriedemsdague: smcginnis: ildikov: jgriffith: hemna: L177 here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cross-project-sessions21:10
jgriffithmriedem: we need a few more "leaders" :)21:10
jgriffithmriedem: might be good to have <=3 moderators or something there21:11
mriedemi know21:11
mriedemjgriffith: i'll be glad to remove myself21:11
mriedemthere21:11
hemnamriedem, jgriffith well I won't be in BCN :(21:11
mriedemall cinder peeps21:11
mriedemoh21:11
jgriffithmriedem: I was just going to say the same for myself :)21:11
ildikovjgriffith: I think having the names involved there is still ok and then we can pick who moderates the session21:11
jgriffithildikov: yeah, I was mostly joking21:12
mriedemthere21:12
mriedemupdated21:12
jgriffithmriedem: :)21:12
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ildikovjgriffith: I thought, but wasn't sure :)21:12
jgriffithhard to tell over IRC21:12
ildikovjgriffith: as we're getting closer to the summit it's harder and harder to just take things easy ;)21:12
jgriffithildikov: haha.. yeah, don't stress21:13
ildikovmriedem: is tat etherpad a list of possible sessions and you'll decide based on votes?21:13
mriedemildikov: the TC decides21:14
ildikovjgriffith: yeah, I'm repeating myself that a few times every day by now :)21:14
smcginnisildikov: This is for all cross project sessions.21:14
smcginnisildikov: We'll have to see where we end up.21:14
ildikovmriedem: ah, ok so this is the "official" cross-project session list21:14
mriedemildikov: this is the proposed list21:14
mriedemthe TC decides next week21:14
ildikovmriedem: if this one does not make it, can we do something in an overlapping session?21:15
mriedemif this doesn't make it then we move it to a design summit session21:15
openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add new attach/detach API calls  https://review.openstack.org/32740821:15
mriedemildikov: yes21:15
scottdaMight want to link Cinder changes from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-nova-api-changes L#20-22 for context21:15
mriedemscottda: it's in the dev ML link in there21:15
ildikovmriedem: cool, I got it now, sorry for the dumb question :)21:15
scottdamriedem: ahh, ok21:15
jgriffithsmcginnis: ^^ gets things slightly better and fixes attach shelved, still need to update re-attach shelved21:15
jgriffiththen make all the compatability shims, verify live-migration and I'll add the multi-attach back in21:16
smcginnisjgriffith: Cool, I'll get that on my list to update my lab system.21:16
smcginnisjgriffith: No doubt a lot of work to do yet, but it's progress at least.21:16
jgriffithsmcginnis: I won't be pushing much more on it for the next day or so FYI21:16
smcginnisjgriffith: I'll try it out and let you know how it goes.21:16
jgriffithsmcginnis: yeah, I'm still shooting to have it ready/functional by Summit21:17
jgriffithsmcginnis: mriedem hopefully we can just spend our group time reviewing and enhancing at that point21:17
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smcginnisjgriffith: That would be ideal if possible.21:17
jgriffithin the meantime, I'm going to get my last slalom session in for the season while it's sooo nice outside :)21:18
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jgriffithclouds can wait :)21:18
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smcginnisjgriffith: Nice!21:18
angela-ssmcginnis: wanted to let you  know that Brocade CI is currently down.  Our IT made some change(unknown to us) to infra this past weekend and devstack install currently hangs.  We are actively working on this and hope to have it back up ASAP21:20
smcginnisangela-s: Thanks for letting me know! I appreciate that.21:20
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smcginnisangela-s: Good luck getting it sorted out.21:20
angela-ssmginnis: Thanks, I'll need it...21:21
smcginnis:)21:21
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hemnaangela-s, whoa!  she lives!21:24
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hemna:)21:24
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angela-shemna: haha, yes, i'm still here.  AND I'll be in Barcelona too!21:28
hemnaawesome.  good for you :)21:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Remove dead code - replication RPC APIs  https://review.openstack.org/36562021:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: extract_host: Handle empty host string input  https://review.openstack.org/37871922:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Cleanup lintstack exceptions related to objects  https://review.openstack.org/37857922:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Switch StrOpt to URIOpt for URL config options  https://review.openstack.org/35141422:02
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patrickeasthemna: oh what, how is ass.py doing that?22:18
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patrickeasthemna: pyudev magic?22:19
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hemnayah22:21
hemnaI have another script....even more magics....22:21
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patrickeasthttp://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mgc.gif22:23
smcginnislol22:23
hemnapatrickeast, http://paste.openstack.org/show/583401/22:24
hemnayes!  that22:25
hemnaall done in python22:25
hemnafetching the udev devices and the multipath devices for the volume based on wwn22:25
patrickeastmmm22:26
patrickeastthats pretty sweet22:26
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patrickeastdoes the python code need to be running as root?22:27
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patrickeasti'm wondering how hard it would be to just stick it in os-brick instead of the cli calls22:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Moving the OPTIONAL_FIELDS inside the OVO object group  https://review.openstack.org/37822022:31
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hemnaI didn't run any of that as root22:33
patrickeastoh man, thats soo good then22:33
patrickeastnew goal, eliminate needing privsep when attaching :p22:33
hemnayah, bypass privsep22:33
hemnaso I may look at how much of what we have that I can rework22:34
patrickeastsounds good22:35
patrickeasti'm definitely interested in helping, so if theres a clean way to like split up some of this lemme know22:36
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hemnaI'd really like to see if we can do something with adding bindings to libiscsi22:40
patrickeastsurely someone has already done it22:44
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patrickeasthttps://github.com/sahlberg/libiscsi-python22:44
hemnayah, I tried that the other day22:45
hemnaI think it's too old for the current version of libiscsi22:45
patrickeastoh is that the one that failed to install?22:45
hemnalots of pukes trying to build it22:45
hemnayah22:45
patrickeasthrm, well thats maybe not too big of a blocker22:45
hemnayah22:45
patrickeastmaybe fun weekend project22:45
hemnathe question I have is, if we use that for discovery and sessions, does that still create the udev devices ?22:45
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patrickeastmm22:46
patrickeasti dunno22:46
patrickeasti only have a vague idea of how the event stuff happens to trigger udev doing its thing22:46
hemnabut there are cinder drivers that use iscsiadm to discover iqns22:46
patrickeastnot sure if we have to poke it, or if there are hooks in the kernel for it22:46
hemnawe could bypass all of that, if we had python bindings to libiscsi22:46
patrickeastyep22:46
patrickeastwould be good stuff22:46
hemnayah I think so22:47
patrickeastwe could probably do neat things like detecting error states and doing smarter things there too22:47
hemnait might be worth spending some time just to get a limited binding set to work22:47
hemnahttps://github.com/sahlberg/libiscsi-python22:47
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hemnapatrickeast, looks like that libiscsi-python was generated by SWIG22:49
* hemna wonders if we can re-generate it22:49
patrickeastprobably22:49
* hemna is unfamiliar with SWIG22:49
patrickeastall i know is folks complaining about it the other day22:49
hemnaoh ?22:50
hemna(apt install swig)22:50
patrickeasti forget, was it jgriffith? smcginnis? ^^22:50
patrickeastsomeone mentioned using it before22:50
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hemnadamn22:53
hemnaso yah, I think libiscsi.i is the magic sauce22:53
hemnathat swig consumes to generate the .py and .c bindings22:53
smcginnispatrickeast: Yeah, jgriffith warned us away from it. :)22:53
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hemnaman this is pain23:00
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hemnamight be quicker to ping Ronnie about it23:07
hemnaah yah23:08
hemnathere is an issue of the API being out of date23:08
hemnalooking at the headers23:08
hemnabah23:08
* hemna hacks away23:10
hemnaboom!23:10
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hemnahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONBAMgTC4dw23:11
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hemnahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/583402/23:13
hemnadamnit23:13
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hemnaok I'll hack on this a bit more laters....23:15
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