Wednesday, 2016-10-05

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: VMware: Skip setting vmdk UUID  https://review.openstack.org/37998402:04
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bjolo_morning05:11
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bjolo_sdake, still up?05:13
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bjolo_i have 2 bugs that are kinda showstoppers for us. please triage?05:14
bjolo_https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/162695805:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1626958 in kolla "neutron_server not working when lbaas enabled" [Undecided,New]05:14
sdakebjolo_ wound me05:14
sdakebjolo_ wrong channel perhaps?05:15
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bjolo_yes05:15
bjolo_sorry05:15
bjolo_too early :)05:15
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openstackgerritKarthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack/cinder: Switch service capabilities to ovo  https://review.openstack.org/31904005:21
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/38217207:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/38217208:09
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor volume RPC API test cases  https://review.openstack.org/37865809:01
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove support for 2.x volume RPC API  https://review.openstack.org/37240509:01
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Remove support for 2.x scheduler RPC API  https://review.openstack.org/37144709:02
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor scheduler RPC API test cases  https://review.openstack.org/37865909:02
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dulekgeguileo: Hi. Question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303020/28/cinder/service.py@125 - how will this play with multibackend configurations?09:24
geguileodulek: Not a problem09:24
dulekgeguileo: In such cases we have multiple instances of Service classes - won't there be a race condition with service_id and only last instance of it will write it?09:24
geguileodulek: I think, but let me check09:25
geguileodulek: Multibackend has multiple processes, therefore multiple interpreters09:25
geguileodulek: Each one will have it's own Service class and service_id class attribute09:25
geguileodulek: They don't share it09:26
geguileodulek: I'll add a comment to the code to clarify it09:26
dulekgeguileo: Yeah, buuut…09:27
dulekgeguileo: create is a classmethod.09:27
openstackgerritAlon Marx proposed openstack/cinder: Add version to ibm_storage driver  https://review.openstack.org/38221409:27
dulekgeguileo: And looking on the code it seems to be called multiple times from a single thread.09:27
geguileodulek: I don't follow what you mean...09:28
dulekgeguileo: So if I'm thinking correctly Service instances will be created in one thread, and then they will spawn the processes.09:28
dulekgeguileo: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/0d894a9e9627e05650b9b900e77ce0661cdc163c/cinder/cmd/volume.py#L96-L10009:28
dulekgeguileo: That's a single thread, right?09:28
geguileodulek: Yeah, but it's not a problem09:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Removing cinder-all binary  https://review.openstack.org/38086409:29
geguileodulek: You use a single thread, assign a value to service_id, spawn new process09:29
geguileodulek: Next service creation start with the old service_id value, but in __init__ corrects it09:30
geguileodulek: Then spawns with the right service_id09:30
geguileodulek: And so on09:30
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dulekgeguileo: Okay, __init__'s happen in a single thread *and* sequentially, so they will correct themselves, and then get forked into new process.09:33
geguileodulek: Yep09:33
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jsheerenhi all, quick question about the snapshot size.  Cinder reports the provisioned size for both volumes and snapshots. Is it possible to change this so snapshot size reported is the actual physical snapshot size?09:51
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openstackgerritAlon Marx proposed openstack/cinder: Add version to ibm_storage driver  https://review.openstack.org/38221410:00
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: set_metadata throws AttributeError: id  https://review.openstack.org/30847510:02
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Move volime drivers unit tests to tests.unit.volume.driver module  https://review.openstack.org/38226410:32
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder: Move volume drivers unit tests to tests.unit.volume.driver module  https://review.openstack.org/38226410:34
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erlonjsheeren: hey, yes, you have to set max_over_subscription_ratio=110:43
erlonjsheeren: what driver are you talking about? some backends uses a different parameter that overhides this one10:44
jsheerenerlon: we're using the netapp ontap nfs driver10:44
erlonjsheeren: lik lvm: lvm_max_over_subscription_ratio10:44
erlonjsheeren: NetAppNfsDriver?10:45
jsheerenyeah, https://netapp.github.io/openstack-deploy-ops-guide/mitaka/content/cinder.cdot.nfs.configuration.html10:46
jsheerenthat one10:46
erlonjsheeren: then is max_over_subscription_ratio10:46
erlonjsheeren: "A value of 1.0 will mean that the provisioned capacity will not be able to exceed the total capacity, "10:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Add cleanable base object and cleanup request VO  https://review.openstack.org/30302010:48
jsheerenerlon: does this mean the reported volume storage size is the actual physical size? with flexclone, snapshots are not 1-1 in size of the originating volume10:49
erlonjsheeren: flexclone is a tool you you to create manually in the storage I guess10:54
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jsheerenerlon: yes, if we create a snapshot in cinder, it talks to the netapp api, which uses flexclone to create the snapshot.10:54
jsheerena snapshot of a 2gb volume can take less space on the actual storage device.  but cinder does not report it as such, it reports the exact same 2gb10:55
erlonjsheeren: the default behaviour of NFS drivers are to report NFS snapshot as consuming the provisioned space10:56
erlonjsheeren: its like that fot my backend (HNAS)10:56
jschwarzgeguileo, heya :)10:56
jsheerenerlon: is this something that can be changed with a config option?10:57
erlonjsheeren: no, this is default for NFS drivers, it gets the 'apparent' size of the snapshot file10:58
jsheerenerlon: owkay, i thought so .. hmm10:58
jsheerenerlon: could it be that the ceph rbd driver does report the actual size, and not the apparent size?10:58
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erlonjsheeren: this can't be different because if Cinder report it hasn't provisioned that space, the original volume file can change, and then the snapshot file will start to consume space, and then consuming all space left10:59
jsheerenerlon: yea that sounds obvious :) .. thank you!11:01
erlonjsheeren: I can't say for those drivers, but the *right* behaviour is to report the apparent size, so, if they are not reporting, you should not rely on that as they should be fixed :)11:02
erlonjsheeren: no problem :)11:02
openstackgerritmelissaml proposed openstack/cinder: Fix typos in documentation  https://review.openstack.org/38150511:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Sheepdog: fix clone failure  https://review.openstack.org/37309211:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Added update-host for CGs in cinder-manage  https://review.openstack.org/33195211:16
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openstackgerritEvgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder: Unify ploop format names in OpenStack projects  https://review.openstack.org/35767911:44
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openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed openstack/cinder: Sort options in cinder.conf by module name  https://review.openstack.org/36471612:03
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: set_metadata throws AttributeError: id  https://review.openstack.org/30847512:18
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avishayHey all. I was wondering about config options to enable/disable multipath. Why would one want to disable?13:04
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avishayhemna: hey, any idea? ^^13:21
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Heat detach issue.  https://review.openstack.org/38242013:46
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avishayHey, does anyone know why we have the option to enable/disable multipath? Any reason to ever disable?14:18
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jgriffithsmcginnis: here's something i thought was interesting:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/584483/14:57
m3m0Hello everyone, I'm looking to backup my volumes and I found something call cinder-backup, could someone help me to find documentation around this? I want to know if this is only a snapshot14:58
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jgriffithsmcginnis: interesting in the fact that it's not really *that much* different14:58
jgriffithjust clean up14:58
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scottdaeharney, xyang1, gouthamr, akerr, smcginnis, cFouts, e0ne, geguileo, dulek, flip214, ntpttr patrickeast, _alastor_, DuncanT, erlon15:01
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xyang1hi15:01
scottdaAnyone want to talk about testing?15:01
scottda#startmeeting cinder_testing15:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  5 15:01:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is scottda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder_testing'15:01
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smcginnisjgriffith: Nice15:03
erlon      hey15:03
e0ne  hi15:04
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smcginnisscottda: In another meeting. Will try to pretend to be paying attention. :)15:04
scottdaI've pretty much given up on the idea of an agenda for test stuff....Anyone have anything to discuss?15:04
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erlon\o15:05
scottdaHi erlon15:05
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erlonhi15:05
erlonI have put some patches with the jobs for the migration tests15:06
erlonneed folks to review15:06
scottdaDo you have a link handy?15:06
erlonNFS Devstack plugin:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375103/15:06
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erlonCinder migration matrix: https://review.openstack.org/38173615:06
erlonJob config: https://review.openstack.org/38173715:07
scottdaerlon: Cool. And it looks like they are on the test etherpad in case anyone needs to find them.15:07
erlonJust a bit of context about the way I need to do15:07
erlonscottda: yes they are15:07
erlonThe guys from tempest don't like the idea of having a @ddt like test generator15:08
erlonwhich was my first idea to support running the migration tests multiple times15:08
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erlonso they suggested to do like nova, having some code in the project itself, and calling it from the job15:09
scottdaerlon: Are these good candidates for our in-tree tempest tests then?15:09
erlonscottda: the tests itself are in tempest, the patch in cinder is just a script that call then15:10
erlonscottda: so we can call multiple time and configure tempest acordingly15:10
erlonscottda: Im pushing the tempest test as well15:11
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erlonscottda: they needed to see that running anywhere in the gate, I arranged a dummy patch in devstack that run the tempest test test, so, soon we can get those merged15:12
scottdaerlon: OK. I'm not sure when I'll have time to test and review. My backlog is getting pretty long...15:12
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erlonscottda: ok, if you need any help to test just letme know15:14
scottdawill do15:14
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scottdaHopefully others can have a look. Anything else on this?15:16
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gaurangtjgriffith: hi15:17
erlonmhm, for me that's all15:17
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scottdaOK. I'll end the meeting if there's nothing else?15:18
jgriffithgaurangt: hey.. what's up?15:19
scottda#endmeeting15:19
openstackMeeting ended Wed Oct  5 15:19:48 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:19
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_testing/2016/cinder_testing.2016-10-05-15.01.txt15:19
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erlonscottda: do you know the status of the A-A testing and work?15:20
erlonscottda: is there any etherepad with the missing bits to have it fully supported?15:20
gaurangtjgriffith: I had put the topic "replication for shared filesystems" in the agenda for today's meeting. But I think we had reached to the conclusion that day. Do we need to still discuss it today?15:20
erlongeguileo: ^15:20
scottdaerlon: I think geguileo Has been rebasing and updating patches. Bp is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cinder-volume-active-active-support15:21
scottdaerlon: That BP has a list of patches and their status15:21
jgriffithgaurangt: well, that's up to you I think :)15:21
erlonscottda: mhm15:21
scottdaerlon: And possibly geguileo can update us at today's meeting at the top of the hour.15:21
jgriffithgaurangt: might be good for you to touch base with folks like eharney bswartz that also do NFS (or did)15:21
jgriffithgaurangt: also tbarron15:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-cinderclient: Volume detail support glance_metadata in CLI  https://review.openstack.org/32194815:22
erlonscottda:geguileo: it would be nice15:22
geguileoerlon: I've been making some changes and I will be creating remaining unit tests this week (as soon as I finish debugging multipath issues on Kilo)15:22
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gaurangtjgriffith: I think we're good for now. Let's discuss more after the release. I'll also rethink on my proposal and come back.15:23
geguileoBut I think I messed up in the latest scheduler changes, I have to look into what's wrong there15:23
jgriffithgaurangt: fair enough15:24
gaurangtjgriffith: But it would be good to check with other vendors with shared filesystem on how they support replication.15:24
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erlongeguileo: I heard someone talking about a guide to test your changes, did anyone do that?15:25
geguileoerlon: I did15:26
erlongeguileo: in your blog?15:26
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geguileoerlon: Yes, let me look for the link15:26
avishayHey, does anyone know why we have the option to enable/disable multipath? Any reason to ever disable?15:26
scottdaerlon: geguileo http://gorka.eguileor.com/manual-validation-of-cinder-aa-patches/15:27
erlonscottda: thanks15:27
scottdaavishay: I wish I could help you, but I don't know.15:27
geguileoerlon: But it's not up to date with Ubuntu issues and some small changes15:27
scottdaavishay: Maybe because multipath has been full of Bugs for Cinder.15:27
geguileoerlon: And I believe it's not using the latest patch series15:27
erlongeguileo: no problem, ill need to find a time to start testing that, when I do problems will come up and ill reach you15:28
geguileoerlon: Ok15:28
* geguileo wishes his days had more hours15:28
avishayscottda: it looks like when multipath was added to nova in grizzly it was probably for backwards compatibility, and never changed15:29
scottdaavishay: I know we've seen and fixed a few issues over time. hemna is the man with the answers, I think.15:29
scottdaavishay: So the changes I'm thinking of might be in os-brick15:30
avishayscottda: yep, too bad keeping it off by default means it matures less quickly. but i was asking more high level - assuming it works, any reason to disable?15:31
scottdaavishay: None that I can think of.15:31
avishayscottda: Nor I15:31
jgriffithavishay: I'm not certain but I think at one point it borked something up for non-multi-attach devices15:32
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jgriffithavishay: obviously a long time ago, so would be interested to test that with a standard devstack using LVM15:32
avishayjgriffith: :/15:32
hemnamorning15:37
hemnawhat'd I do now?15:38
scottdahemna: Morning15:38
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avishayhemna: hey :)15:38
avishayhemna: only good things15:38
scottdahemna: you fixed a lot of multipath bugs15:38
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hemnaoh phew15:38
avishayhemna: any reason (other than potential bugs) to have the option to enable/disable multipath? why not always on?15:39
hemnaso I had thought of that recently15:39
hemnaof just enabling it if it's installed and running15:40
hemnabut my experience on systems where there are 100+ volumes attached, is that udev -> multipathd gets really slow15:40
hemnaand unless you put blacklists in place, you'll get a mpath dev even for single volume attaches15:41
hemnathe daemon isn't the best IMHO15:41
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avishayhemna: i see15:41
hemnaand from what patrickeast and I have seen ubuntu 16.04 has a borked multpathd15:42
hemnaotherwise, yah, just have it on all the time :)15:42
avishaythough i guess i wouldn't expect far more than 100 attaches per node15:42
hemnafwiw, it seems to work better with FC based devices than iSCSI too.15:42
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avishaygotta love FC :)15:43
hemna:P15:43
avishayhemna: thanks, that was helpful15:43
hemnanp15:43
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sandanardf -kh .15:45
sandanarapologies for my previous message. went in wrong window15:46
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eharneyi started adding a new tempest test in Cinder here:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381287/   -- but it looks like the gate jobs don't actually execute the new test?15:47
jgriffithsandanar: happens to be at least a dozen times a day :)15:47
eharneywhich jobs are supposed to execute in-tree tests?15:48
smcginniseharney: Third party CI's _should_ be running with tox -e all-plugin, but I don't think we've done much to enforce that.15:49
smcginniseharney: Nothing in gate or check yet, as far as I know.15:50
eharneysmcginnis: hmm, should we investigate adding it to jobs like the LIO job that are non-voting?  we need it somewhere in infra15:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Sort options in cinder.conf by module name  https://review.openstack.org/36471615:52
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smcginniseharney: Probably. It would be good to get some coverage there.15:53
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bswartzjgriffith: thanks for the shout out16:00
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bswartzgaurangt: ping me if you want the historical view of the nfs driver16:00
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openstackgerritMike Perez proposed openstack/cinder: Remove deprecated host option  https://review.openstack.org/38085416:22
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Misleading logging on portgroups.  https://review.openstack.org/38254616:26
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openstackgerritMike Perez proposed openstack/cinder: Remove deprecated host option  https://review.openstack.org/38085417:02
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Detect if Fibre Channel support exists  https://review.openstack.org/38258317:34
hemnapatrickeast, ^^17:35
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prometheanfireupgraded to newton and vgs from cinder is returning unauthorized command17:37
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prometheanfireI see the filter in rootwrap.d so I don't get it17:38
hemnaprometheanfire, is that rootwrap filter in /etc/cinder ?17:38
hemnaif so, you'll need to bounce the services17:38
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hemnaalso might have to do the same with n-cpu17:39
prometheanfireya, it's in /etc/cinder/rootwrap.d17:39
prometheanfireI've bounced the service (cinder-volume) and am still getting the error17:39
prometheanfirefound it17:41
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prometheanfirehemna: there was a process that was causing it it looks like (untracked by the init script)17:41
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hemnaglad you found it17:45
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patrickeasthemna: oh what, we can do that?17:54
patrickeasthemna: it looks too easy17:54
hemnayuppers17:55
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hemnaI don't know why the f I didn't think of that earlier.17:55
* hemna is stupid.17:55
patrickeasthaha17:55
patrickeastno one else noticed17:55
patrickeasteven when everyone was complaining about it running and spewing warnings17:55
smcginnisI like it.17:55
hemnait's stupid simple17:55
* hemna is a dumbass17:56
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smcginnisI'm assuming all distros are the same there.17:56
hemnayah it's a kernel sysfs thing17:58
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hemnathe kernel folks say don't use libsysfs17:58
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hemnaas it's unreliable17:58
hemnabut to use the filesystem itself in /sys17:59
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hemnahttps://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sysfs-rules.txt#2017:59
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smcginnisCool17:59
hemnahttps://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sysfs-rules.txt#3017:59
hemnaso if a distro changes that location, then shame on them.18:00
eharneyyeah, if someone is moving /sys/, too bad for them18:00
hemnayup18:00
hemnapatrickeast, so it's possible to slurp almost all the fc hba information from the sysfs host directories18:01
hemnabypassing systool18:01
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hemnabut I'm not sure how much of a benefit there is to it18:02
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hemnaI had looked into a python wrapper for talking to libsysfs18:02
hemnabut libsysfs is frowned upon now so....nope.18:02
hemnaI just like the idea of doing almost everything in pure python if possible18:03
hemnare: puydev, info.multipathtools, etc18:03
patrickeasthemna: that would be the ideal way18:04
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hemnayah, that's what I'm looking into18:06
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openstackgerritAlan Pevec proposed openstack/cinder: Switch from tempest-lib to tempest  https://review.openstack.org/38166418:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-brick: Detect if Fibre Channel support exists  https://review.openstack.org/38258319:22
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patrickeastugh, somewhere in the last week or so my dib images for nodepool started sucking at installing openssh-server :(21:15
patrickeastcan't ssh into any of my ubuntu nodes without re-installing it21:15
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patrickeastanyone else seen that with their nodepool images?21:16
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SwansonI never got nodepool to install anything with a working network.21:32
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openstackgerritAleksey Ruban proposed openstack/cinder: Nexenta: Added cleanup for abandoned volumes in NexentaStor4 iSCSI driver  https://review.openstack.org/38267021:53
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anteayapatrickeast: talk to clarkb in infra, methinks we have encountered a recent ssh issue22:02
anteayabut as per usual I am foggy on the details22:02
patrickeastanteaya: sweet, thanks for the pointer22:03
anteayawelcome22:04
anteayamany it net you results22:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-cinderclient: Modify assertTrue  https://review.openstack.org/34729722:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Nexenta: Use base VolumeDriver migrate_volume  https://review.openstack.org/35882122:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Move volume drivers unit tests to tests.unit.volume.driver module  https://review.openstack.org/38226422:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Error message for image conversion failure  https://review.openstack.org/38127222:19
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vikshi, I want to add metadata filter to snapshot listing https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/156955423:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1569554 in Cinder "cinder snapshot listing does not work with metadata" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Vivek Agrawal (vivek-agrawal)23:13
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viksdo I necessarily need to add a new microversion for this?23:14
vikscan the chanes be part of default V3?23:15
vikschanges*23:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-cinderclient: Remove discover from test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/34557323:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-cinderclient: Replace 'MagicMock' with 'Mock'  https://review.openstack.org/37363623:35
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