Thursday, 2016-10-06

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winston-d_git complained about 'gerrit' branch doesn't have a 'master' branch, when I try to rebase Kendall change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290885/02:31
winston-d_Is it something wrong locally or 'gerrit' is not sane at the moment?02:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Misleading logging on portgroups.  https://review.openstack.org/38254603:14
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openstackgerritTommyLike proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Add volume type filter to Get-Pools  https://review.openstack.org/36274707:10
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/38275007:11
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openstackgerritTommyLike proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume type filter to API Get-Pools  https://review.openstack.org/36711008:09
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openstackgerritTommyLike proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Add volume type filter to Get-Pools  https://review.openstack.org/36274708:45
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m3m0hello everyone, could anyone point me to the docs about cinder-backup?08:52
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smcginnism3m0: This has some basic information: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide/blockstorage-volume-backups.html08:57
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openstackgerritTommyLike proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Add volume type filter to Get-Pools  https://review.openstack.org/36274708:58
m3m0smcginnis: thanks :)09:00
smcginnism3m0: No problem.09:01
smcginnism3m0: Looks like someone did a nice deep dive presentation on it that might have a little more details here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiBsrbG6MXPAhUJ7oMKHfXGBekQFggtMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snia.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2FSDCIndia%2F2016%2FPresentations%2FUsing%2520Object%2520Storage%2520to%2520store%2520and%2520restore%2520Cinder%2520Volume%2520backups.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEtAr4ZZnC09:01
smcginnism3m0: Sorry, bad link. Just a second.09:01
smcginnism3m0: http://www.snia.org/sites/default/files/SDCIndia/2016/Presentations/Using%20Object%20Storage%20to%20store%20and%20restore%20Cinder%20Volume%20backups.pdf09:02
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smcginnisSome good references at the end of that as well.09:02
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e0nesmcginnis: hi. is it too late in your timezone?09:02
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smcginnise0ne: Too early. :)09:02
m3m0smcginnis: wow, thanks a lot, let me take a look09:02
smcginnise0ne: Woke up way too early and finally decided to just go to work. ;)09:03
e0nesmcginnis: what timezone are you live now?09:03
smcginnise0ne: US central time. So it's just past 4 AM here now.09:03
e0ne:)09:03
smcginnisWoke up around 1:30 and by 2:45 decided I might as well just get up and get going.09:04
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duleksmcginnis: Maaan, it's 11 AM here and people in the office are still asking me why do I look tired. ;)09:09
smcginnis:)09:09
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smcginnisI'm always amazed by how late you guys work. If I did that, I probably wouldn't get to work until 11 AM. :)09:10
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dulekOh, right. After finishing my masters thesis I was left with noting to do in the evening, so I've found out doing reviews can fill that gap a little.09:13
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duleksmcginnis: Oh and as you're already here… I've addressed Gorka's comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371447/ and  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372405/09:27
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duleksmcginnis: Very minor changes since your +2.09:27
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smcginnisdulek: Cool, I'll take a look.09:31
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duleksmcginnis: Thanks!09:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/38275009:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Remove support for 2.x volume RPC API  https://review.openstack.org/37240510:50
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smcginnisDuncanT: You around?11:23
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openstackgerritBartek Żurawski proposed openstack/cinder: Add backup notification to cinder-volume-usage-audit  https://review.openstack.org/37954612:04
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DuncanTsmcginnis: Hi13:03
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smcginnisDuncanT: Oh, nevermind. Was going to have you take a look at a backport, but it's done now.13:04
DuncanTsmcginnis: Ok, sorry, was deep in the guts of ceph13:05
smcginnisDuncanT: No worries.13:05
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dulekDuncanT: Ceph-Jonah?13:06
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smcginnisHah!13:06
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smcginnisNewton is out! https://github.com/openstack/cinder/releases/tag/9.0.013:31
smcginnisThanks everyone for a great release.13:31
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openstackgerritMaxim Nestratov proposed openstack/cinder: use 'ploop' disk format name instead of 'parallels'  https://review.openstack.org/35767913:33
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sbezverk_jgriffith: ping13:33
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e0ne_smcginnis: congrats!13:34
smcginnise0ne_: Break out the champagne. :)13:35
e0ne_:)13:35
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jgriffithsbezverk_: hey13:49
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jgriffithcongrats smcginnis and everyone!!13:49
smcginnisNot me, everyone else. :)13:50
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jgriffithsmcginnis: *everyone* including you :)13:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Add version to ibm_storage driver  https://review.openstack.org/38221413:51
smcginnis:)13:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Remove support for 2.x scheduler RPC API  https://review.openstack.org/37144714:07
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openstackgerritTommyLike proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add util function to build dict from key value pairs  https://review.openstack.org/38298414:21
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Add VERSION to ZTE driver class  https://review.openstack.org/38300414:44
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pawHi, I'm seeing an issue on an older version of python cinderclient (1.1.1) where a nonadmin user creates a volume, the admin user creates a snapshot of that volume and the nonadmin is able to delete the volume and then the admin user cannot delete the snapshot. I see that this is fixed in 1.6 (the nonadmin user cannot delete the volume since there's a snapshot avail), I'm trying to identify the changes made to fix this.... (git log15:03
paw's not giving me anything obvious so far...)15:03
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jgriffithpaw: not sure, it would seem that would be a result of a change in the API and not the client.... looking to see if I can spot anything15:22
jgriffithpaw: hmm... I don't even see any changes in volume create/delete or snapshot create/delete between 1.1 and current version :(15:24
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pawjgriffith: yeah, I'm digging around and whatever the change is it's not obvious :(15:37
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ildikovsmcginnis: hi15:44
smcginnisildikov: Hi!15:45
ildikovsmcginnis: I added a comment on the micro bug fix patch15:45
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smcginnisildikov: Which one?15:45
smcginnisildikov: Oh, I see the email now.15:45
ildikovsmcginnis: this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339692/715:45
ildikovsorry, too many tabs in my browser... :)15:46
smcginnisildikov: I know the feeling. ;)15:46
smcginnisildikov: Yeah, that comment makes sense. I think that's a good plan.15:46
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ildikovsmcginnis: cool, then I'll do that and add you to the review15:47
smcginnisildikov: Perfect, thanks!15:47
ildikovsmcginnis: tnx!15:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Fix typos in documentation  https://review.openstack.org/38150515:55
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hemnamep16:28
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Cascade + force volume delete parameters  https://review.openstack.org/33781416:28
hemnapatrickeast, so I've been chatting with Ronnie (guy who makes libiscsi)16:29
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hemnaand he recently added some changes for me :)16:29
hemnapatrickeast, https://github.com/sahlberg/libiscsi/commit/72eedbb726adcb177f48a3185e7734cb9293281d16:29
hemnawhich was needed for doing discovery from python16:29
smcginnissweet16:30
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hemnastill need to figure out how to get canonical, redhate, etc to update their packages to use the latest16:30
smcginnishemna: Yeah, good luck with that. :)16:30
hemnathe ubuntu package for it is very old and the python wrapper won't build against it16:30
hemnamy plan is to see if we can get the latest version update16:31
hemnathen put the wrapper in pypi16:31
hemnaif we can do that16:31
hemnathen we can start using it in cinder and brick16:31
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patrickeasthemna: awesome!16:31
hemnabut at this point, I'm not sure who's arms to twist to help make that happen16:31
patrickeastbest bet, find a customer who wants it16:32
patrickeasthave them do arm twisting of their distro16:32
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hemnahe also added support for it in the python wrapper16:32
hemna:)16:32
hemnahttps://github.com/sahlberg/libiscsi-python/commit/40a1eb10384f3ddf8a53c7eab37950c6401f63c416:32
hemnaI'm going to try it out and see16:33
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openstackgerritMike Perez proposed openstack/cinder: Remove deprecated cinder.middleware.sizelimit  https://review.openstack.org/38086616:43
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openstackgerritMike Perez proposed openstack/cinder: Remove deprecated host option  https://review.openstack.org/38085416:47
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/38310716:54
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openstackgerritErlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: Fix Cinder migrate_volume_completion  https://review.openstack.org/37794516:57
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hemnapatrickeast, smcginnis https://gist.github.com/hemna/e5210dafc59c0482150363028e6248b218:04
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hemnajgriffith, ^18:05
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/cinder: Enable release notes translation  https://review.openstack.org/38320618:25
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patrickeasthemna: that looks pretty simple18:31
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smcginnishemna: Yeah, that looks pretty nice.18:40
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jgriffithhemna: that's handy18:50
jgriffithhemna: so they use swig to translate c bindings from the native libiscsi?18:53
jgriffithhemna: nm.. found the github :)18:53
jgriffithneat18:53
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jgriffithhemna: how does the "Lesser GPL" mix with Apache2 license?18:54
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smcginnisjgriffith: From what little I know, that should be fine to use it. We just wouldn't be able to package it in our code.19:01
eharneyyou can do "grep LGPL requirements/global-requirements.txt", there are plenty of those used in OpenStack already19:03
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jgriffithsmcginnis: eharney yeah.. DERP19:07
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jgriffitheharney: have you ever looked at this:  https://github.com/xzased/lvm2py/tree/master/lvm2py19:09
jgriffitheharney: there's a couple variants I've seen in the past but never stumbled across this dead one before19:10
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thingeehey I'm finally going to spend time on moving type manage and extra spec contrib code into v3. Would people prefer this be done in the same micro version bump or separate?19:38
thingeeI'm actually just about done (I think)19:38
thingeeI still need doc/tempest changes tho19:39
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thingeebut unit tests are happy19:39
thingeescottda: ^19:40
smcginnisthingee: I'm hoping it's easier to just do it all in one. That would be my preference, but interested in what scottda has to say as well.19:40
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thingeeyeah I've just done git mv's with some minor changes, so it's not a huge patch set.19:41
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thingeeI guess I could do other modules while I'm at it19:41
thingeelike all this volume_* stuff19:42
thingeein contrib19:42
thingeejgriffith: can I deprecate qos specs in favor of just using volume type specs?19:42
thingeeI listened to this openstack days presentation in stockholm and this guy was using qos specs for things other than qos stuff19:43
patrickeastlol19:44
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patrickeastthingee: we probably should deprecate them, nows as good a time as any19:45
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thingeehey if patrickeast endorses it, that's good enough for me19:47
patrickeast\o/19:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Fix for Tegile driver failing to establish volume connection  https://review.openstack.org/38134119:49
jgriffiththingee: I most certainly wouldn't object to that19:51
jgriffiththingee: but might be good to get input from folks that drove that19:51
jgriffiththingee: I don't see much value in it19:52
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thingeewinston-d I think?19:53
jgriffiththingee: yeah, for sure19:54
jgriffiththingee: I thought the 3par folks had some activity there as well but not sure about that19:54
jgriffithkmartin and hemna maybe?19:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Enable release notes translation  https://review.openstack.org/38320619:55
xyangthingee, jgriffith: we have just done the other way around because it is the "cinder" way to do Qos, changing from extra_specs to QoS specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370816/.  So this will be like a joke if we keep deprecating back and forth19:56
thingeewho said it's the cinder way?19:56
jgriffithxyang: I feel your pain, but I'm curious *who* said that was the "cinder way" ?19:57
xyangthingee: QoS specs is in cinder19:57
jgriffithxyang: and BTW, you know you have to support both currently right?19:57
xyangjgriffith: this patch will remove it19:57
thingeexyang: I think you're going the right direction there.19:57
thingeeso yeah I'll deprecate it and cc winston-d19:58
xyangthingee: which direction?19:58
thingeexyang: removing qos specs support19:58
xyangthingee: no, the title is miss leading19:58
thingeeoh, yeah don't use it19:58
eharneydoes anyone know if the enable_v2_api option works?19:58
xyangthingee: it should be "deprecating QoS definition in extra_specs"19:58
thingeeeharney: worked when I added it ;)19:58
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eharneythingee: promising start :)19:59
xyangthingee: what did that guy say in presentation?  any link?19:59
xyangwhy should we make such a big change just because that guy gave a presentation and said something wrong20:00
thingeexyang: he was using qos specs for defining things like replication.20:00
xyangthingee: well, we shouldn't merge his patch if it is submitted20:00
xyangthingee: is it in tree20:01
thingeexyang: I just gave that as an example. he's not the main reason for driving this change. it just doesn't really add value. volume type extra specs can do everything already20:01
jgriffiththingee: ummm, yeah, curious what you're referring to now?20:01
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thingeejgriffith: what?20:01
thingeexyang: qos specs just means people look for qos settings in two possible places now. take the solid fire driver as example.20:02
thingeeor datera20:02
xyangthingee: Agree extra_specs can do the job.  that was how we implemented it earlier.  however, since QoS specs is in Cinder, our drivers try to implement it the way Cinder defines it20:03
xyangjgriffith: maybe it has to do with the front end definition?  there's a front end and back end20:04
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scottdathingee: I think same microversion bump is best. The less, the better.20:04
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thingeescottda: thanks20:05
jgriffiththingee: sorry... you and xyang were talking about "somebody said something"20:05
jgriffiththingee: xyang personally I prefer just one way to do it and that one way being extra-specs, that's all I know20:05
xyangjgriffith: I refer to thingee's comments about a presentation20:05
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xyangjgriffith: on OpenStack Days20:05
jgriffiththingee: xyang having both has done little else than add confusion for users IME20:05
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jgriffithxyang: ok, that's kinda what I was asking.. "who said what" :)20:06
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xyangonly thingee knows:)20:06
thingeemy only point of bring up the presentation was because that person was clearly confused and giving people bad information.20:06
xyangI was asking for a link20:06
thingeexyang: don't have a link. it was at openstack days stockholm20:06
thingeebut besides the point. it creates confusion, and things can evolve :)20:07
jgriffithbummer, I wasn't in Stockholm :(20:07
jgriffithSweden's a nice place20:07
xyangjgriffith: well, if you guys brought this up before we made this change, I won't have this problem.  Now we are making customer confused by changing it back and forth20:07
jgriffith"you guys" ?20:07
thingeeso I would say deprecate and work with drivers to update that, and migrating people to use volume type extra specs for the qos spec needs20:07
jgriffithxyang: leave me out of it20:07
jgriffith:)20:07
smcginnisthingee: +120:08
jgriffithxyang: I'm just saying I use/recommend extra-specs, I don' t care what the rest of you do20:08
xyangjgriffith: alright, thingee brought this up.  I thought he was joking at first20:08
jgriffithxyang: I support both and will continue to do so if I have to20:08
jgriffithxyang: :)  yeah, sorry I don't know20:08
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thingeexyang: blame openstack then?20:09
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thingeeI said there can be a deprecation period. customers who don't like inconsistency shouldn't work with computers.20:10
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xyang:)20:10
thingee¯\_(ツ)_/¯20:11
smcginnis!!20:12
openstacksmcginnis: Error: "!" is not a valid command.20:12
smcginnisStill no table flip.20:12
xyangthingee: removing a table will take at least 3 releases to complete20:12
thingeeno table flip needed, yet20:12
thingeexyang: ok, as long as it's deprecated I'm happy20:12
xyangthingee: I mean table in db, not the table you drew20:13
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thingeexyang: yeah sorry have two different conversations. table flip was to smcginnis20:14
smcginnisToo many tables.20:14
xyangthingee: So OpenStack Days presentation is not recorded like the summit presentation?20:15
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thingeexyang: maybe? I dunno look up the nordic openstack days. they might have released something20:18
smcginnisxyang: The ones I've been to were not. Sometimes they might publish the slides though.20:19
thingeeit was about hedvig anyways, which I feel like is a cinder clone but on the data path. not even an upstream driver.20:19
thingeebut they're claiming to be a cinder driver20:19
smcginnishemna: ping20:19
smcginnisthingee: Oh nice.20:19
smcginnisSeems everyone is these days.20:19
* thingee might've been an obnoxious audience member20:20
smcginnis:)20:20
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Cascade + force volume delete parameters  https://review.openstack.org/33781420:21
thingeeI only presented there to tell people OpenStack is inconsistent.20:21
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Tempest tests for cascade delete  https://review.openstack.org/38343620:21
xyangthingee: well, they can claim whatever if it is not even upstream.20:21
thingeeI reported it to the foundation since they are calling it an OpenStack compatible driver.20:21
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xyangthingee: are they on market place with a driver log entry?20:22
thingeeno, but they can't even claim that on their marketing stuff20:22
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xyangthingee: they should be fined so they won't do false claim next time20:23
thingeeI leave that up to the legal people. :)20:23
thingeeI did my part in reporting it20:23
* smcginnis gets out the pitchforks20:24
xyang:)20:24
thingeebut to have the openstack compat driver license you have to either been grandfathered in or have gone through what the community has already set as a driver requirement.20:24
thingeehttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/075532.html20:25
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xyangthingee: thanks20:32
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thingeeshould I get rid of all these os- prefix things in the endpoint? like os-reset-status just becomes reset-status?20:38
thingeeI think yes20:38
thingeewho needs to be reminded they're using openstack?20:38
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thingeere: moving stuff out of contrib ^20:39
smcginnisthingee: Yeah, if they're not contrib stuff now I think that should be removed.20:40
thingeei'm actually wondering what we should leave in contrib20:40
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openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/cinder: Replace retrying with tenacity  https://review.openstack.org/36823520:41
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Print backtrace for exception when in debug mode  https://review.openstack.org/38344920:41
openstackgerritChris M proposed openstack/cinder: Merge changes from kilo version of the dothill driver  https://review.openstack.org/38345220:45
hemnajgriffith, hey,  sorry I was busy drinking some beer20:46
jgriffithhemna: LOL... now you're talkin!!!20:47
jgriffithThat's what I like to hear20:47
hemna:)20:47
hemnasmcginnis, sup20:47
jgriffithhemna: nothing really... just had some questions before  looked at the source of that lib; seems like it could greatly simplify things20:47
jgriffithhemna: got me wondering about something similar for the LVM stuff20:47
hemnajgriffith, yah I'd like to see if we can migrate other things to that kind of model eventually20:48
jgriffithhemna: no doubt20:48
hemnathe trick now is to get the distributions to pick up the version of the lib that works20:48
smcginnishemna: Assigned a bug to you to get your input while you still might care about an HPE driver. :)20:48
hemnaqemu is really the only 'customer' of libiscsi currently20:48
hemnaat least according to the maintainer20:49
hemnasmcginnis, heh someone complained about the LUN being 0 for every volume?  lolz.20:49
hemnasmh20:49
SwansonSometimes active_backed_id is None and sometimes it is '' when it might wanna be None. Neato.20:49
smcginnishemna: Thats normal, right?20:49
hemnayes20:50
hemnathe IQN's change and the LUN's are always 020:50
jgriffithhemna: :)20:50
hemnaeven shows that in the bug details that he posted20:50
smcginnishemna: Cool, I was going to just close it saying that, but figured I should check first.20:50
jgriffithsmcginnis: I used to have a comment in the code that said "LVM volumes are ALWAYS at Lun 0"20:51
jgriffithsmcginnis: doesn't look like that's there any more though20:51
jgriffithsmcginnis: that's not true any longer for thin btw20:52
smcginnisjgriffith: os_brick: if lun == 0: LOG.info("THese are always 0!!")20:52
jgriffithsmcginnis: thin is lun1 because the thin pool is at lun 020:52
jgriffithsmcginnis: haha!  Nice!20:52
smcginnisjgriffith: Ah, good to know. Didn't realize that.20:52
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smcginnisThat will be the next bug: LVM used to always be LUN 0 but now it's 1.20:52
jgriffithsmcginnis: :)  Just for thin anyway20:53
jgriffithanyway20:53
jgriffithwhatevers20:53
hemnahttps://github.com/xzased/lvm2py20:54
hemnalast commit was 2012 though20:54
jgriffithhemna: lulz, I was looking at that20:54
jgriffithhemna: there's a couple others out there, but most of them use cmd-line executors20:54
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jgriffithhemna: that's the only one I saw that actually used a c-binding20:55
hemnais there a liblvm ?20:55
jgriffithor seemed like it20:55
hemnawhere you can swig bind to the APIs ?20:55
jgriffithhmm... I dunno20:55
jgriffithwhy yes, yes there is!20:55
hemnasweet!20:55
hemnamaybe my next employer can fund me to do this stuffs20:55
jgriffithhttps://www.redhat.com/archives/lvm-devel/2011-January/msg00138.html20:56
jgriffithhemna: you should be your next employer, and pay yourself handsomely to work on this20:56
hemnawhoa20:56
smcginnishemna: If they can decide what they're doing.20:56
smcginnisOops, did I write that out loud?20:57
jgriffithsmcginnis: haah!20:57
hemnasmcginnis, shh!20:57
jgriffithhemna: smcginnis I'm Shultz... "I Know Nothhhhing!"20:57
hemna:)20:57
smcginnis:)20:57
hemnaso did that thread from Lars turn into anything?20:58
smcginnishemna: Which one was that?20:58
hemnasmcginnis, the redhat url above ^^20:59
eharneythere's a python API that's built from the lvm sources iirc20:59
hemnaeharney, url ?21:00
eharneyuhh well there's this url https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/lvm2.git/tree/python/liblvm.c  (not the best starting point)21:00
eharneyubuntu seems to ship a python-lvm2 package, presumably that's what that is21:01
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hemnahttps://www.openhub.net/p/python-lvm ?21:02
eharneyhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/python-lvm221:02
eharneyit's probably like the libvirt python bindings used to be some time ago where they aren't shipped on pypi or anything, just built from the C libs21:03
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openstackgerritTom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Can incorrectly identify if it is failed over  https://review.openstack.org/38347321:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: NetApp cDOT: Fix model update for cheesecake volumes  https://review.openstack.org/36962022:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Replace "SLO" tag with "ServiceLevel" tag  https://review.openstack.org/36572623:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: [Trivial] Refactor the using of dict.get() in the test assertion  https://review.openstack.org/35532323:14
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