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| aohuanxuan | erlon-airlong: Hey! | 02:45 |
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| aohuanxuan | erlon-airlong: I think we have met in the summit, I am the one doing cinder commands in OSC, my name is Huanxuan Ao, sorry to contact you late, I am a little busy these days. | 02:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Guy Kim proposed openstack/cinder: ITRI DISCO cinder volume driver https://review.openstack.org/347100 | 02:53 |
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| supamatt | So I have a problem here with devices coming back after a deletion, I think the SAN device I have isn't unmapping the devices fast enough and they come back during a rescan in os-brick | 03:10 |
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| aohuanxuan | erlon-airlong: I have read the list created by stevemar, it is a wonderful list, I think we can do our work follow it! | 03:37 |
| aohuanxuan | stevemar: Could you please add me in the doc?: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ZtWC75BNCwFqLfFpCGGJ9uPVBvUXX0xuXP1yYG0NDA/edit?usp=sharing | 03:39 |
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| aohuanxuan | stevermar: Maybe it need a gmail, my gmail is aohuanxuan@gmail.com | 03:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-cinderclient: Fix help message for 'type-list' command https://review.openstack.org/392110 | 04:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yves-Zhang proposed openstack/cinder: Ceph backup driver:delete the 'backup snapshot' for target volume https://review.openstack.org/392646 | 04:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: To fix miscellaneous bugs in OVOs https://review.openstack.org/391996 | 04:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Guy Kim proposed openstack/cinder: ITRI DISCO cinder volume driver https://review.openstack.org/347100 | 05:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Morrison proposed openstack/cinder: Remove authorisation checks at the DB level for quota operations https://review.openstack.org/393092 | 05:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Morrison proposed openstack/cinder: Remove authorisation checks at the DB level for quota operations https://review.openstack.org/393092 | 06:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Use method is_valid_boolstr from oslo_utils https://review.openstack.org/385721 | 07:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | xianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: Use method is_valid_boolstr from oslo_utils https://review.openstack.org/385721 | 07:58 |
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| markus_z | It looks like os-brick versino 1.7.0 doesn't pass some of the unit tests in cinder: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392244/1 | 08:58 |
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| markus_z | To be precise, these two: http://paste.openstack.org/show/587621/ | 08:59 |
| markus_z | os-brick 1.7.0 was supposed to resolve the blocking issue for the IBM s390x CI | 09:00 |
| markus_z | Could anyone from the Cinder folks maybe have a look at it? I'm at a workshop this week and have little time. | 09:00 |
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| xyzzyz_ | hello i am new here and want to contribute to openstack. I have recently seen that link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Internship_ideas so I want to know where to apply for these projects. | 09:24 |
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| xyzzyz_ | hello i am new here and want to contribute to openstack. I have recently seen that link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Internship_ideas so I want to know where to apply for these projects. | 09:37 |
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| markus_z | I summarized the issue I described 1 hour ago in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-brick/+bug/1638861 | 10:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638861 in os-brick "os-brick 1.7.0 breaks 2 unit tests in cinder" [Undecided,New] | 10:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Make Image Volume Cache cluster aware https://review.openstack.org/386186 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Make c-vol use workers table for cleanup https://review.openstack.org/303021 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Add more operations to cluster https://review.openstack.org/355968 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Support A/A on Scheduler operations https://review.openstack.org/344226 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: [PoC][Don't review] Testing delay https://review.openstack.org/353069 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Support A/A in attach/detach operations https://review.openstack.org/318573 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Allow triggering cleanup from API https://review.openstack.org/363010 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Support A/A in delete actions and get_capabilities https://review.openstack.org/344225 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Make Replication support Active-Active https://review.openstack.org/381835 | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Cosmetic changes to scheduler https://review.openstack.org/346041 | 10:33 |
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| sheel | geguileo: patch flood... :) | 10:48 |
| geguileo | lol | 10:48 |
| TommyLikeHu__ | waiting for the next wave | 10:48 |
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| circ-user-KkYYi | I have made openstack setup with glusterfs for cinder backend which is mounted in /var/lib/cinder/volumes.. When i tried to create volumes, volume is getting created. But when i checked in /var/lib/cinder/volumes. It shows two volumes with root:root permissions.. Is it not cinder:cinder | 11:10 |
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| circ-user-co9JL | I have made openstack setup with glusterfs for cinder backend which is mounted in /var/lib/cinder/volumes.. When i tried to create volumes, volume is getting created. But when i checked in /var/lib/cinder/volumes. It shows two volumes with root:root permissions.. Is it not cinder:cinder | 11:15 |
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| circ-user-co9JL | hi all, whether tgt is needed if i use gluster as backend for cinder??? | 11:16 |
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| circ-user-co9JL | hi all, whether tgt is needed if i use gluster as backend for cinder??? | 11:33 |
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| TommyLikeHu__ | circ-user-co9JL: what is tgt | 12:12 |
| circ-user-co9JL | Linux SCSI target framework (tgt) aims to simplify various SCSI target driver (iSCSI, Fibre Channel, SRP, etc) creation and maintenance. | 12:13 |
| TommyLikeHu__ | thanks~ | 12:13 |
| flip214 | CRITICAL nova ValueError: Invalid InitiatorConnector protocol specified DISCO | 12:15 |
| TommyLikeHu__ | hey any guys would like to take a look at the optimise patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379255/ ? | 12:15 |
| flip214 | is that something to do with brick? | 12:15 |
| flip214 | ERROR nova File "/opt/stack/os-brick/os_brick/initiator/connector.py", line 261, in factoryERROR nova File "/opt/stack/os-brick/os_brick/initiator/connector.py", line 261, in factory raise ValueError(msg) | 12:15 |
| TommyLikeHu__ | flip214: I bet you're right | 12:16 |
| flip214 | TommyLikeHu__: thanks. but is that a temporary openstack problem, a configuration error, a bug, ...? | 12:17 |
| flip214 | can't find DISCO in any configuration file | 12:18 |
| TommyLikeHu__ | flip214: sorry I am not familiar with this either :( | 12:19 |
| flip214 | oh, never mind. | 12:19 |
| flip214 | os-brick is too old | 12:19 |
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| TommyLikeHu__ | flip214: what's your time zone and full name? it seems quite quiet now | 12:23 |
| TommyLikeHu__ | if you don't mind | 12:23 |
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| circ-user-co9JL | cinder service-list results in following error ERROR: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'get' | 13:23 |
| circ-user-co9JL | pls guide | 13:23 |
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| circ-user-co9JL | cinder service-list results in following error ERROR: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'get' | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Fix releasenotes job https://review.openstack.org/393321 | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Cascade + force volume delete parameters https://review.openstack.org/337814 | 13:45 |
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| flip214 | hemna: do you have a hint for me? Nova dies for me with | 13:59 |
| flip214 | nova ValueError: Invalid InitiatorConnector protocol specified DISCO | 13:59 |
| flip214 | File "/opt/stack/os-brick/os_brick/initiator/connector.py", line 261, in factory | 13:59 |
| flip214 | devstack, checked that the git repos are uptodate | 13:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | flip214: any chance nova is looking for "disco"? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/ad695a2691abe2aaadbb29ee970de4ba8a74824d/nova/virt/libvirt/volume/disco.py#L48 | 14:03 |
| flip214 | johnthetubaguy: possibly, yes. But I wouldn't know why, "grep -ri DISCO /etc" comes up empty | 14:04 |
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| flip214 | johnthetubaguy: my nova checkout has a ./nova/virt/libvirt/volume/disco.py... does that interfere? | 14:06 |
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| dulek | smcginnis: Hi! What's the driver deadline for Ocata? I can't recall that being decided at the summit and I cannot see deadline in the recap email. | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | dulek: November 14th, the O-2 milestone: | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 14:13 |
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| TommyLikeHu__ | dulek: can you take a look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379255/ ? | 14:20 |
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| dulek | TommyLikeHu__: I don't think I'll be able to look right away, but tab open. | 14:26 |
| dulek | opened | 14:26 |
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| paw | Hi, can someone review this: https://review.openstack.org/391291 ? (thanks in advance) | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Mock volume create for LVM migration tests https://review.openstack.org/393344 | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/cinder: Fix unit tests for LVM migration with os-brick 1.7.0 https://review.openstack.org/393349 | 14:42 |
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| mdovgal | Hi, guys.Could somebody explain me. As i understood, for user, that has admin privileges, all operations with db api will be executed without checking his project_id? (for example, getting type-list. he will get all volume_types, even private, despite the fact that he doesn't relate to that project, which owns some private volume types). Is it normal behavior? | 14:44 |
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| markus_z | smcginnis: I've seen you also have a patch for bug 1638861. I wasn't aware of that when proposing my patch. I have no strong feelings which should be favored. Feel free to abandon my patch if it doesn't fit. | 14:46 |
| openstack | bug 1638861 in Cinder "os-brick 1.7.0 breaks 2 unit tests in cinder" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1638861 - Assigned to Markus Zoeller (markus_z) (mzoeller) | 14:46 |
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| TommyLikeHu__ | dulek: any time welcomed :) | 14:47 |
| smcginnis | markus_z: Oh, I didn't see you had something up. Do you have a link? | 14:47 |
| markus_z | smcginnis: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393349/ | 14:48 |
| markus_z | ^ to the best of my belief. I haven't done much in Cinder. | 14:48 |
| paw | smcginnis: Thanks for your review (391291), I just read your comment. So, in this case, if I'm not querying nova, in the case of a force delete and the volume is attached, I'm thinking of modifying it to drop the nova queries and log that the volume is attached and then delete is, does that sound reasonable? | 14:49 |
| markus_z | You were a few minutes faster than me :) | 14:49 |
| smcginnis | markus_z: That works too. I can just abandon mine. | 14:49 |
| markus_z | smcginnis: Whatever fits for Cinder (and merges fast) | 14:50 |
| smcginnis | markus_z: +1 ;) | 14:50 |
| markus_z | awesome, thanks :) | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | paw: That sounds better, thanks! | 14:51 |
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| markus_z | smcginnis: out of curiosity, is there a test job which tests cinder with os-brick master? I'm wondering how this bug could slip through. | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | markus_z: I think we have a gap there. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | markus_z: We have some third party CI's that run with os-brick master, but that's just tempest tests, not unit tests. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | markus_z: And since this was only a unit test failure, we only see it once raising u-c. | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | markus_z: Which is probably fine. The patch to raise that runs the unit tests, so we can see if anything needs to be updated before we actually raise it. | 15:19 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Should I +A that? | 15:20 |
| waj334 | Does anybody know whether or not v3 cinder api support is a priority for the Openstack client? | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yeah, I think that would be good to get that through. Thanks! | 15:21 |
| markus_z | smcginnis: I see. I had the assumption that there is a check before creating a new release of os-brick. | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Also need to figure out why storwize CI is failing. *Sigh* | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | markus_z: Apparently not for unit tests for consuming projects. :/ | 15:21 |
| markus_z | smcginnis: But as you explained, living with that gap is probably an acceptable thing. | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: CI's are fun! :) | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | Bingo! | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | waj334: I don't so yet, though it really should be. | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | waj334: That's now our officially supported API version, though most consumers using osc probably are not there yet. | 15:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Live Volumes not cleaned up https://review.openstack.org/384675 | 15:24 |
| waj334 | 10:22 AMÂ <@smcginnis> Maybe this is something us Cinder guys at OSIC can work on | 15:24 |
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| jungleboyj | Our CI is failing due to an SQLAlchemy requirement conflict? | 15:28 |
| jungleboyj | WTF. | 15:28 |
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| Swanson | Anyone want to take a peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392234/ One +2 already! Jenkins and (shockingly) the Dell CI have passed it! | 15:29 |
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| jungleboyj | Swanson: Are you coming out to play on Monday? | 15:30 |
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| Swanson | Nope. Mondays are for my manager to badger me. | 15:30 |
| jungleboyj | *Sigh* Then I am not looking. ;-) | 15:31 |
| Swanson | Damn. | 15:31 |
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| jungleboyj | Swanson: I suppose I will make an exception this time. | 15:32 |
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| Swanson | jungleboyj, Thanks! It's like two lines. :) | 15:32 |
| jungleboyj | I know. +A'd | 15:32 |
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| Swanson | jungleboyj, Excellent! Thanks! smcginnis: buy the man an espresso on monday. | 15:34 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Now you are talking! | 15:34 |
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| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj: Swanson doesn't want to come play with us because then we would all know that he's secretly a robot. | 15:40 |
| * jungleboyj is shocked | 15:40 | |
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| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: That explains so much! | 15:40 |
| Swanson | diablo_rojo, my other job is a twitter bot. | 15:40 |
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| diablo_rojo | Swanson, the truth comes out.. | 15:44 |
| xyang | diablo_rojo: robot can look like a human though, so you may still not be able to tell even if you see him:) | 15:44 |
| diablo_rojo | xyang, too true | 15:44 |
| diablo_rojo | Swanson, are you a cyborg?!? | 15:45 |
| Swanson | If I made an "other barry" joke here would anyone get it? | 15:45 |
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| jgriffith | Swanson: :) | 15:47 |
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| mdovgal | Guys, who have some free minutes me to help? | 15:51 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Note sent to storwize team on CI failing. | 15:58 |
| jungleboyj | mdovgal: What can we do? | 15:58 |
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| mdovgal | jungleboyj: I want to clarify for myself cinder's behavior for user with admin privileges | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | mdovgal: Ok, I can try to help. | 16:06 |
| mdovgal | Is it normal behavior, that for admin operations with db api will be executed without checking his project_id? (for example, getting type-list. he will get all volume_types, even private, despite the fact that he doesn't relate to that project, which owns some private volume types). | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | mdovgal: Yes, I believe that is normal. The admin is supposed to be able to see all of the volume_types and work with them. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | volume_types are designed to be managed by the administrator, so he needs to see all of them. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Users are scoped so that the admin can control who has access to what volume_types. | 16:09 |
| dulek | smcginnis: Hey, you've written Nov 14th, but it's actually Dec 14th. :D I've just realized that. | 16:10 |
| dulek | (talking about driver deadline for Ocata) | 16:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Fix releasenotes job https://review.openstack.org/393321 | 16:10 |
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| mdovgal | jungleboyj, and for some project admin can create volume with private type from other project? As i understood, the users will see volume with that type that the can't create by their own | 16:16 |
| mdovgal | sorry, maybe i misunderstand something in the logic of users and projects | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | dulek: Oops! Guess I'm trying to make this cycle even shorter than it already is. :) | 16:16 |
| dulek | smcginnis: I've terrified some people by passing that info. Fun thing to do. ;) | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | hehe | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | mdovgal: No, I think that is right. An admin can create a volume_type that is private from other projects. | 16:17 |
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| mdovgal | jungleboyj, so this bug even actually not a bug?) it's just a normal cinder's behavior https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1637549 | 16:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1637549 in Cinder "Private volume types are not working for multi tenancy" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Michael Dovgal (mdovgal) | 16:23 |
| mdovgal | jungleboyj, thank you | 16:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Upgrade procedure documentation https://review.openstack.org/393395 | 16:29 |
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| jungleboyj | mdovgal: Welcome. | 16:34 |
| hemna | doink | 16:38 |
| Swanson | holy hell a hemna sighting! | 16:38 |
| hemna | phew | 16:38 |
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| hemna | yes, I'm still alive | 16:38 |
| hemna | barely | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | Yay! | 16:39 |
| Swanson | Walmart greeter? | 16:39 |
| Swanson | Escaped the ex wife's basement? | 16:40 |
| Swanson | What great tales and new new jobs do you have? | 16:40 |
| hemna | I'm not exactly free from that troll yet, but soon..... | 16:43 |
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| waj334 | What's the difference between cinder v2 and v#? | 16:44 |
| waj334 | v3? | 16:44 |
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| scottda | waj334: There is no difference between v2 and v3 version 3.0, except that v3 3.0 is microversion aware... | 16:45 |
| hemna | I guess I should start doing reviews again | 16:45 |
| hemna | how's that 3PAR CI going.... ? | 16:45 |
| scottda | waj334: But as we added new features, they go to v3 and get a microversion | 16:45 |
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| scottda | waj334: The new changes are all in cinder/api/v3/* modules | 16:46 |
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| waj334 | Is there a list somewhere that details any new functionality that will be added in the future? | 16:47 |
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| hemna | waj334, cinder-specs is a good first start | 16:48 |
| scottda | waj334: cinder/api/openstack/rest_api_version_history.rst | 16:48 |
| hemna | waj334, also might look at the launchpad blueprints | 16:48 |
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| waj334 | Just to be clear, as features are added the microversion will just increase, right? | 16:53 |
| scottda | waj334: Yes, that's correct. | 16:54 |
| waj334 | Nevermind just re-read what scottda just said | 16:54 |
| scottda | waj334: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/api_microversion_dev.html | 16:54 |
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| scottda | waj334: Here's a presentation we gave on microversions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7KdNiuf2f9s | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Fix unit tests for LVM migration with os-brick 1.7.0 https://review.openstack.org/393349 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Error creating snapshots with live volume https://review.openstack.org/392234 | 17:20 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Did you see the e-mail about needing to use bindep now? | 17:46 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: No, not yet. On the ML? | 18:01 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah. | 18:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick: Multipath device keeps old size when extending volume https://review.openstack.org/353325 | 18:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Amy Fong proposed openstack/cinder: Modify force-delete to query nova for attachments https://review.openstack.org/391291 | 18:12 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: bindep looks like it could be pretty useful. | 18:14 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah ... seems like a decent change. | 18:14 |
| paw | smcginnis: updated https://review.openstack.org/391291 not to use nova, thanks! | 18:17 |
| smcginnis | paw: Great! | 18:17 |
| smcginnis | paw: Could you update the commit message? I don't think that's accurate now. | 18:17 |
| paw | smcginnis: d'oh | 18:18 |
| smcginnis | :) | 18:18 |
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| geguileo | smcginnis: Thanks for the +A on the AA patch | 18:27 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: I was wondering, should we prevent any driver from working in A/A until the maintainers confirm that driver is ready? | 18:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Amy Fong proposed openstack/cinder: Modify force-delete to query nova for attachments https://review.openstack.org/391291 | 18:28 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Hmm, that's not a bad idea. | 18:28 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: Otherwise we may end up with people deploying in A/A drivers that are not ready | 18:28 |
| paw | smcginnis: updated, sorry for the delay | 18:28 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: What are the driver dependencies? Just test validation? | 18:28 |
| geguileo | Ok, I'll write a patch for that, it should be simple enough | 18:30 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: Yeah, that they submit a patch changing an instance attribute and a release note | 18:30 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: It's mostly "self certification" | 18:30 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: At least it's what I was thinking | 18:30 |
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| smcginnis | geguileo: Want to add that to next weeks meeting agenda? Might be good for everyone to discuss. | 18:33 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: Ok | 18:33 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: And I'll prepare a patch so it's easier to follow what I mean | 18:33 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 18:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Amy Fong proposed openstack/cinder: Modify force-delete to delete attached volumes https://review.openstack.org/391291 | 18:36 |
| paw | smcginnis: sorry, now it's really updated (forgot the first line) | 18:37 |
| hemna | binder ? | 18:41 |
| hemna | bindep? | 18:41 |
| smcginnis | hemna: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/bindep/ | 18:44 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Sounds kind of good from my 2 second understanding of it. requirements.txt for distro binaries I think. | 18:45 |
| hemna | ah that would be nice | 18:45 |
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| hemna | os-brick has some | 18:45 |
| hemna | I'll have to look into adding that for brick | 18:45 |
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| hemna | smcginnis, since I wasn't at BCN, do we have any notes/videos on the discussion for supporting drivers for older releases? | 18:46 |
| hemna | I need to get caught back up | 18:46 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Funny you ask... | 18:47 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Just working on that now in infra and release channels. | 18:47 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 18:47 |
| hemna | ok | 18:47 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: I believe we had agreement on having branches side by side with stable/mitaka that we would keep around and allow driver bug fixes only. | 18:47 |
| hemna | I'm guessing at some point here, I'm going to be hacking on our drivers here at IBM, so I'm curious how it's all going to work | 18:48 |
| smcginnis | No guarantee that the whole thing will actually run. | 18:48 |
| smcginnis | Just somewhere to put the fixes. | 18:48 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 18:48 |
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| hemna | didn't we already try that idea w/ infra and they pooped on it ? | 18:48 |
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| smcginnis | Will need at least like a pep8 or a no-op job to run against the patches, but that's about it. | 18:48 |
| smcginnis | hemna: No, I think what I tried last time was to just open up stable/mitaka, and that definitely did not fly. | 18:49 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: I think part of getting this OK with everyone was making it very clear we were not trying to change stable policy. | 18:49 |
| hemna | ah ok | 18:49 |
| hemna | I thought we had proposed a stable/mitaka-fixes name or something like that | 18:50 |
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| hemna | anyway, I think we had many ideas floating around | 18:50 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Yeah, I think we're basically with what we had discussed in Ft Collins. Just finally able to explain our intentions a little better I think (hope). | 18:51 |
| hemna | sweet | 18:51 |
| hemna | man that really would be a huge win for a lot of reasons to get this blessed. | 18:51 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: +1 | 18:52 |
| smcginnis | hemna: I'll be really happy if we get this in place. And I'm sure there are quite a few others that will be too. | 18:52 |
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| hemna | yah, it's been a long time coming. | 18:53 |
| hemna | don't neutron drivers have the same problem? | 18:53 |
| hemna | or...not because they are out of tree | 18:53 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Yeah, they're basically all out of tree now. | 18:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adriano Freires Rosso proposed openstack/cinder: HNAS: Add list manageable volume/snapshots https://review.openstack.org/388203 | 19:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Make c-vol use workers table for cleanup https://review.openstack.org/303021 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/cinder: NetApp ONTAP: Deprecate 7-mode driver https://review.openstack.org/393450 | 19:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Minor cleanup https://review.openstack.org/393456 | 19:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: [PoC] Prevent Active-Active on drivers by default https://review.openstack.org/393460 | 19:25 |
| _MoonWolf_ | I have some trouble with cinder. In my setup i have 1 controller node and 1 windows compute/storage node with smbfs.WindowsSmbfsDriver. loaded. Now if i try to do "cinder create 1" on the controller the volume gets stuck in creating state and no logs what so ever shows up in cinder-scheduler.log nor on the cinder-volume logs. | 19:26 |
| _MoonWolf_ | If i do "cinder service-list" all shows ok and they are in the same zone. anyone has a clue of what i am doing wrong?. If i create a volume type with wrong backend errors show up in the cinder-scheduler.log | 19:26 |
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| paw | eharney, smcginnis: Hi, saw the comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391291/ (force-delete/attached volumes). So just to clarify, the preferred approach is to use - cinder reset-state --state .... ? | 19:37 |
| eharney | paw: you may have to use cinder reset-state --attach-status <...> but yes | 19:38 |
| eharney | s/yes/sort of/ | 19:39 |
| paw | eharney: k thanks. sorry, I should have asked after your first comment on the review | 19:39 |
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| rarora | Hi, found a potential security issue and would be happy to resolve. Is the best process to go ahead and create a launchpad defect first, or would you like to discuss it first? | 19:45 |
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| waj334 | Is the cinder v2 api microversion aware like v3 or just aware enough to detect a functionality in an unsupported version of the api? | 19:48 |
| eharney | rarora: please create a private security bug on launchpad, initial discussion will be in private there so the details aren't distributed publicly | 19:49 |
| scottda | waj334: /v2 api is not microversion aware | 19:49 |
| rarora | eharney: thanks, will do! | 19:50 |
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| waj334 | scottda: gotcha. I'm just trying understand as much as I can so I write up a blueprint to support cinder v3 in the openstack client. From my current understanding, all of v2 functionality should just be moved over to v3 | 19:52 |
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| scottda | waj334: Yes, that's about right. But the openstack client will have to be microversion aware to accommodate the new featrues beyond microversion 3.0 | 19:54 |
| scottda | waj334: It seems you've already observed that cinderclient v2 just imports from v3. | 19:55 |
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| andrein | Hello, are volume snapshots supported using the glusterfs backend? | 19:57 |
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| eharney | andrein: they were, but the glusterfs backend has been removed in Ocata | 19:58 |
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| andrein | eharney: is there an alternative? | 19:59 |
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| waj334 | scottda: Yes, I've taken a look at the v2 stuff. So the openstack client would pretty much need to know the minimum version at which a feature was implemented to include in the http header? | 20:01 |
| eharney | andrein: Cinder supports a lot of backends, it's hard to recommend an alternative in general without a lot more info | 20:02 |
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| scottda | waj334: Well, there are a couple of ways to do it. Currently in cinder we require the user to choose the server API microversion they want to use : | 20:03 |
| scottda | --os-volume-api-version 3.12 | 20:03 |
| scottda | waj334: Wheras manilaclient does an auto-negotiation between client and server to find the highest supported version of both. | 20:04 |
| andrein | eharney: basically, we need something that supports snapshots and HA, our storage needs are pretty modest (maybe a dozen TB?) | 20:04 |
| scottda | waj334: We don't currently have a mechanism where a particular feature automatically includes the proper api version when that feature is used. | 20:05 |
| scottda | waj334: And really, for OSC a broader conversation should be had for microversions, since they are used by several services, and each (nova, cinder, manila, ironic) are all used differently. | 20:06 |
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| scottda | waj334: I'd be happy to help with these conversations. And best to include other services representatives | 20:07 |
| imcsk8 | andrein: you can use ceph, in my experience it's more comfortable than gluster (it's easier to recover from a problem) | 20:07 |
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| andrein | imcsk8: It also requires more hardware than we have available for this :) | 20:08 |
| eharney | andrein: Ceph RBD is what we (at Red Hat) recommend our Gluster users move to | 20:08 |
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| eharney | (for Cinder usage) | 20:08 |
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| waj334 | scottda: Is there some sort of versioning api already in place to help figure out which microversion an api call may exist in? | 20:09 |
| andrein | thanks for the info eharney, I'll look into ceph | 20:09 |
| scottda | waj334: No, there isn't. The user would have to know when a feature/api was added | 20:09 |
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| scottda | waj334: There is code in cinderclient help so that you see the features available for the given version you input (with --os-volume-api-version <version>) | 20:11 |
| scottda | waj334: But that versioned help feature is controversial. | 20:11 |
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| scottda | waj334: There is an argument that the help should indicate which microversion is needed for a feature/api | 20:11 |
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| scottda | waj334: I think the entire subject should be brought up at a OSC meeting. There's a few different ways to do it, and likely to be some strong opinions | 20:13 |
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| waj334 | scottda: It would be nice to have that auto-negotiation feature so that things more easier to use with less confusion. | 20:14 |
| scottda | waj334: Yes, it seems like the way to go, and I'm planning on putting it in the cinderclient. But, that doesn't guarantee that a feature is available on the server, even if you ask for it... | 20:15 |
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| scottda | waj334: For example, if we added 'messages' api in Version 3.3 and the cinderclient/OSC supports up to 3.8, a user might try to use that API.... | 20:17 |
| scottda | waj334: But if the server only supported to version 3.2, it would auto-negotiate to 3.2 and the commands would not work. | 20:17 |
| waj334 | scottda: Unless I'm just underestimating the complexness of the subject, but if info about each command was stored somewhere in a database or whatever then the client could just query against it and find out the microversion | 20:18 |
| scottda | waj334: Sure, there are ways to store and get the info. But it's currently not being done by anyone to my knowledge... | 20:19 |
| scottda | waj334: And it probably will take some discussion to determine if and how this should be done. | 20:19 |
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| waj334 | scottda: Do you think this should be supported by each project individually or should some new mechanism that could be used by all services be put in place? | 20:28 |
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| scottda | waj334: I believe it would be good for the OSC to have one mechanism for using microversions, as well as how the version was chosen (auto-negotiate, user input, or both), as well as how the "help" worked, etc | 20:35 |
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| waj334 | scottda: I can see it being very easy implement this in the OSC by just version info to each command. The OSC can just check to see which version of a service is running and then compare that to the version number set in the command to see if can be called or not. | 20:44 |
| waj334 | scottda: I don't know how this could be done for curl api calls tho | 20:47 |
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| eharney | smcginnis: i thought at the summit we decided we needed pep8 and unit tests for the driverfixes branch? (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393481/) | 20:48 |
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| smcginnis | eharney: We had talked about the need of having something run in order for things to work. | 20:51 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Talking through on infra, we were just going to start with a noop job. | 20:51 |
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| eharney | smcginnis: hmm, is just pep8 not noop enough? | 20:52 |
| smcginnis | eharney: It's a bit more overhead. | 20:52 |
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| hemna | finally got a packer repo working that stands up 16.04 correctly and installs devstack and all it's deps. | 23:24 |
| hemna | https://github.com/hemna/packer-devstack-vagrant | 23:24 |
| hemna | for anyone interested | 23:24 |
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