Friday, 2016-11-04

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Qinghi02:03
QingI see cinder online migration volume will rename the volume name after nova/libvirt using BlockRebase to the destination.02:03
QingAfter the first online migration if I do a migration again, nova/libvirt will use the pre-rename volume file name to do a bcckfile chain check, this will cause the second migration fail.02:03
QingDo you meet this issue? Should I open a bug for this?02:04
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Add dev doc for generic volume groups  https://review.openstack.org/39357003:09
openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Add dev doc for generic volume groups  https://review.openstack.org/39357003:13
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openstackgerritxianming.mao proposed openstack/cinder: cors: update default configuration  https://review.openstack.org/39357703:20
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Add API Reference for groups  https://review.openstack.org/37052603:47
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Add dev doc for generic volume groups  https://review.openstack.org/39357004:00
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/cinder: Fix wrong usage of config opiton gpfs_images_share_mode  https://review.openstack.org/33486805:13
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/cinder: test: fix wrong usage of config option in test_window  https://review.openstack.org/33487705:13
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-brick: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/39280206:01
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/39281606:02
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openstackgerritDinesh Bhor proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Move old oslo-incubator code out of openstack/common  https://review.openstack.org/39361006:18
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circ-user-co9JL    hi all, i am getting the following error in horizon related to cinder.. pls guide.. http://paste.openstack.org/show/587859/07:45
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openstackgerritSoffie Huang proposed openstack/cinder: FalconStor: Restore option "san_secondary_ip"  https://review.openstack.org/35583608:09
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circ-user-co9JLthis is my scheduler log.. any error in this?? http://paste.openstack.org/show/587868/08:25
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openstackgerritSzymon Borkowski proposed openstack/cinder: Clean _get_cctxt method signatures  https://review.openstack.org/39177609:12
openstackgerritSzymon Borkowski proposed openstack/cinder: Convert backup_device to OVO  https://review.openstack.org/32933209:12
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dulekAm I the only one who has "RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in cmp" when running tox -e docs?09:26
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openstackgerritSoffie Huang proposed openstack/cinder: FalconStor: Restore option "san_secondary_ip"  https://review.openstack.org/35583610:02
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e0nedulek: it's something with dependencies10:25
duleke0ne: Yup, I've pruned everything in my repo and it worked.10:25
e0nedulek: there was a similar issue with unit tests10:25
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openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Fix config generator issue with OVO decorators  https://review.openstack.org/39369310:38
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openstackgerritErlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: Introduce Hitachi VSP driver  https://review.openstack.org/38937711:27
openstackgerritErlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: Introduce Hitachi VSP driver  https://review.openstack.org/38937711:32
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Add dev doc for generic volume groups  https://review.openstack.org/39357012:55
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: Add API Reference for groups  https://review.openstack.org/37052613:02
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Rolling upgrade procedure documentation  https://review.openstack.org/39339513:08
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Rolling upgrade procedure documentation  https://review.openstack.org/39339513:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-brick: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/39280213:09
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Dinesh_Bhorsmcginnis: Hi, do you have some time? want to get your opinion about this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/json-schema-validation13:11
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smcginnisDinesh_Bhor: Hmm, on first quick read through I guess it sound reasonable.13:22
smcginnisDinesh_Bhor: I'm not aware of what nova is doing there, but would be interested in taking a look at their code to understand it better if I can get around to it.13:22
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Dinesh_Bhorsmcginnis: ok, so should we start working on this?13:26
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smcginnisDinesh_Bhor: Sure, I think that would be OK.13:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Fix config generator issue with OVO decorators  https://review.openstack.org/39369313:27
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Dinesh_Bhorsmcginnis: ok, thank you for your time. I will push a base schema layer patch soon.13:28
smcginnisDinesh_Bhor: Thanks. I may have a different story after actually seeing the code, but probably not. ;)13:28
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/39378914:06
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openstackgerritYves-Zhang proposed openstack/cinder: Ceph backup driver:delete the 'backup snapshot' for target volume  https://review.openstack.org/39264614:09
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sudipto_Hi all, since cinder does not support multi-attach of the same Volume to multiple virtual machine, can someone share how we can achieve HA of two virtual machines which write data to a SAN volume managed through openstack?14:48
jgriffithsudipto_: you don't14:51
jgriffithsudipto_: if you want to set up an NFS share and do something like that you can14:51
sudipto_jgriffith, oh hmm...the14:51
jgriffithsudipto_: of if you know your san can handle it and you use the right file system you can just comment out the attach check and do multi-attach14:52
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jgriffithOr you could use VMware14:52
sudipto_jgriffith, no not on vmware...also is it safe to just remove that check?14:52
jgriffithsudipto_: if you know your san can support it and you run a multi access aware FS then yes, it's *kinda* safe14:53
sudipto_jgriffith, Ok.14:54
jgriffithsudipto_: but your'e on your own, it's a custom hack to do things you're not supposed to be able to do :)14:54
sudipto_jgriffith, yeah - esp in production.14:54
sudipto_But wondering why this has never been a priority?14:54
jgriffithsudipto_: and to be honest I haven't tried it on any "newer" version of OpenStack so there may be other things that get checked now14:55
sudipto_that made me think, if there are other ways of doing it14:55
jgriffithsudipto_: if you're in production I would advise that you don't do it14:55
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jgriffithsudipto_: If A/A Instance HA is a requirement you'll need to look at NFS and Nova and see if there are things you can do, but I'm not sure even that works.14:56
jgriffithsudipto_: really you're better off just accepting the concept of ephemeral instances and embracing it rather than trying to force in A/A constructs that don't really fit14:56
sudipto_jgriffith, hmm, you mean treat them as battles...14:57
sudipto_castles14:57
sudipto_my god - auto correct.14:57
jgriffithsudipto_: yeah, I personally don't like that analogy but yes, you have the right idea14:57
jgriffithhaha :)14:57
jgriffithsudipto_: auto correct isn't always so correct :)14:57
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sudipto_jgriffith, lol - too much intelligence can be fatal...14:58
jgriffithsudipto_: indeed!!14:58
sudipto_but just philosophically trying to understand - so we have to embrace everything that openstack does is to deal with ephemeral instances - i wonder if a production grade enterprise workload would be happy with that...14:58
jgriffithsudipto_: well you probably don't want to hear my philosophical rant on this :)14:59
sudipto_jgriffith, :D14:59
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jgriffithsudipto_: these false assertions around enterprise requirements will ruin a good thing15:00
jgriffiths/will ruin/are ruining/15:01
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jgriffithsudipto_: anyway, I bet you can get what you want using NFS but it's not something I have much experience with or ever tried to do myself15:02
sudipto_jgriffith, you mean - they shouldn't really need these HA kinda stuff?15:02
jgriffithsudipto_: yep15:02
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sudipto_just thinking, how you would make a high available application available all the time which writes data to a SAN storage...wondering if you mean design that using load balancers etc..15:04
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jgriffithsudipto_: yeah, that's the problem... and most wouldn't agree with my feelings on this, so eventually we'll have multi-attach finally in Cinder and everybody can do their A/A HA15:06
sudipto_jgriffith, no no, please don't get me wrong. i am definitely not fighting over it...I am just trying to understand, and happy with a work around...15:07
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jgriffithsudipto_: nah, not saying you are.  I'm just saying that OpenStack in general over the last few years has been trying more and more to add these types of capabilities.15:09
jgriffithsudipto_: it's a common theme, and vendors want to sell their features so here we are15:09
jgriffithsudipto_: anyway, we probably shouldn't be jamming up the dev channel with this conversation :)15:09
sudipto_jgriffith, alrite :)15:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-cinderclient: Move old oslo-incubator code out of openstack/common  https://review.openstack.org/39361015:10
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jungleboyjsmcginnis: Got the storwize CI issue resolved.15:34
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smcginnisjungleboyj: Awesome.15:37
* smcginnis abandons removal patch15:37
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diablo_rojosmcginnis: BINGO!15:49
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smcginnisdiablo_rojo: :D15:50
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jungleboyj:-)  Bingo via IRC.15:50
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/39281615:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-brick: Enable release notes translation  https://review.openstack.org/38330816:00
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Migrate consistency groups to groups  https://review.openstack.org/35035016:08
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openstackgerritmichaeldovgal proposed openstack/cinder: Add check if volume type has access for the project  https://review.openstack.org/39384016:30
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Fix compatibility with decorator < 4.0.x  https://review.openstack.org/39384116:32
openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Attach and detach snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/39384216:33
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xinlidulek: I am very new in OVO component, could you help to provide doc links for me to speed up in OVO?16:59
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erlon-airlongscottda: ping17:13
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erlon-airlongsmcginnis: ping17:14
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new_userI want to contribute to openstack and I have recently seen this link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Internship_ideas and I want to work on the Ceph's RBD incremental backups for Cinder so can anyone tell me how can I apply for this..??17:23
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smcginniserlon-airlong: pong17:24
smcginnisnew_user: Not sure on that. geguileo is listed as the mentor for that one. I would start by speaking to him.17:24
erlon-airlongsmcginnis: hmm, I was asking a question, but have figured out :)17:24
erlon-airlongsmcginnis: thanks!17:24
smcginniserlon-airlong: Great!17:24
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scottdaerlon-airlong: Did I answer your question as well ? :)17:27
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new_usersmcginnis:ok...thnx...or if there is no problem then can you give his email or something so I can contact him.17:27
erlon-airlongscottda: yes, I would ask for you, as you did the migration of volumes17:27
erlon-airlongscottda: just to confirm that migration where an admin only action17:28
smcginnisnew_user: I'm not sure what it is. But he's usually in this IRC channel.17:28
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smcginnisnew_user: He's in Spain, so it's late Friday afternoon there. Hopefully he has started his weekend already. ;)17:29
smcginnisnew_user: Maybe try Monday during the day.17:29
scottdaerlon-airlong: Yes, I'd think on most deployments. Although you could change it in policy.json if you wanted.17:29
new_userok.....Thnx17:29
erlon-airlongscottda: mhm17:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Minor cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/39345617:36
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openstackgerritSamantha Blanco proposed openstack/cinder: Fixes hpelefthandclient AttributeError  https://review.openstack.org/39389418:28
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mtaninoerlon-airlong: That's right!18:30
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waj334The cinder client is going to be deprecated soon, right?19:34
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smcginniswaj334: No official plan yet to deprecate it. First we want the openstack client to support the existing functionality before we consider deprecating the cinderclient.19:35
waj334I'm going through some of the Openstack client code and I noticed that it uses some cinder client stuff19:37
smcginniswaj334: The CLI part is the part of it that might be deprecated.19:37
smcginniswaj334: It will always exist as a python library to use for writing code to interact with cinder.19:38
waj334Good. Now things make more sense19:38
smcginniswaj334: And at least for the near term, the openstack client will use cinderclient to do everything.19:38
smcginniswaj334: Great! ;)19:38
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jgriffithhemna: patrickeast would you guys do me a favor and quit breaking the multipath stuff :)20:08
patrickeastLol20:08
patrickeastjgriffith: what's wrong now?20:09
jgriffithpatrickeast: well it looks like my fix for multipath=True being set for devices that don't do multipath is gone again :(20:09
jgriffithconfirming now20:09
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patrickeastDoh, nothing quite like fixing the same bug twice20:10
jgriffithyeah... it's borked again20:10
jgriffithpatrickeast: :)20:11
patrickeastjgriffith: where was the fix before?20:12
jgriffithpatrickeast: I had a try/except around the multipath scanning part, so if it wasn't multipath capable it would just revert back to the "normal" case20:12
patrickeastoh, it should still do that20:13
jgriffithpatrickeast: come to think of it though, I may not have pushed that since things moved out of Nova20:13
patrickeasthmm20:13
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jgriffithpatrickeast: oh?20:13
jgriffithwonder if this is something else then20:13
jgriffithwould be nice if it's not the same problem :)20:13
patrickeastjgriffith: so like, i run a test periodically with single-path pure and its configured to use multipathing20:13
patrickeastit just falls back to the single-path behavior20:14
patrickeastor did20:14
jgriffithpatrickeast: yeah, exactly20:14
jgriffithwonder if it's a different problem maybe.  This is with LVM FWIW20:14
patrickeastdoes it just fail to attach?20:14
patrickeasts/attach/find the volume path/20:14
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jgriffithpatrickeast: http://paste.openstack.org/show/587939/20:15
jgriffithpatrickeast: which is different20:16
patrickeastoh20:16
jgriffithpatrickeast: but still no beuano20:16
patrickeastso there is like a 'force multipath to be there or fail' option somewhere i thought20:16
jgriffithpatrickeast: yup, exactly20:16
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jgriffithpatrickeast: and it looks like the default for who knows why is True20:17
jgriffithWTF?20:17
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jgriffiththat seems dumb20:17
jgriffithpatrickeast: it's in the Nova side20:19
jgriffithso never mind :)20:19
patrickeasttypical20:19
patrickeastlol20:19
jgriffithThat's what I was thinking :)20:19
patrickeastthats just where they create the connector?20:19
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jgriffithyeah20:19
jgriffithvirt/libvirt/driver.py20:19
patrickeastouch yea20:21
patrickeastso thats not good20:21
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patrickeasti guess i don't hit this on my test because i do have the multipath daemon there and running20:22
patrickeastit just doesn't end up with multiple paths20:22
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jgriffithpatrickeast: I hate it when it's stuff like this.20:26
jgriffithpatrickeast: the nova side is such a tangled mess it's never easy to just *fix* it20:26
patrickeastjgriffith: just change that True to fa False and call it good? XD20:27
patrickeasta*20:27
jgriffithpatrickeast: :)  Yup20:28
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jgriffithbut I'm sure shit will hit the fan20:28
patrickeastmeh, we can only hand hold so much20:28
jgriffithpatrickeast: and I don't have a multipath dev to test... so, umm, "hey budyy, how ya doing" :)20:28
patrickeastif someone is running and needs multipathing, they should probably have started multipathd20:28
jgriffithpatrickeast: seems reasonable to me :)20:29
patrickeastjgriffith: hah, don't worry, my ci will catch it (if its running..)20:29
jgriffithpatrickeast: cool, I'll file a bug and submit a patch, and I'll shout when it's up20:29
jgriffithpatrickeast: maybe around March or so :)20:29
patrickeastlol20:29
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mriedemjgriffith: replied in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/163935021:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1639350 in os-brick "Use of iscsi_multipath should not be mandatory" [Undecided,New]21:47
mriedemjgriffith: not sure what your thoughts were there on how to handle that21:47
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jgriffithmriedem: I think have a solution that we don't have to change anything on the Nova side.21:54
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jgriffithmriedem: turns out it's not really Nova's problem, depending on how this test goes I'll probably note that and remove nova from the bug21:55
jgriffithmriedem: thanks for looking at the bug21:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-brick: Stop calling multipath -r when attaching/detaching iSCSI volumes  https://review.openstack.org/37442121:55
mriedemsure21:56
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mriedemunrelated, does anyone know if ISER is supported with s390?21:56
mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/163923921:56
openstackLaunchpad bug 1639239 in os-brick "ValueError for Invalid InitiatorConnector in s390" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:56
mriedemapparently nova fails to start....21:56
mriedem*nova-compute21:56
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jgriffithmriedem: I don't know.. maybe jungleboyj ?  But I do think that brick should do things better than that21:59
mriedemi was going to at least raise a more specific exception than ValueError like UnsupportedConnectorMapping or something...so at least nova could handle it and ignore21:59
mriedemi could add ISER to the s390x mapping, but don't know if that's right either22:00
jgriffithmriedem: yeah I don't know if it's apropriate to add that or not; but a specific exception with a handler certainly seems like the right thing to do22:00
mriedemthat's what i'm going to work on22:01
jungleboyjmriedem: Yuck!  I don't know that iSER is supported but it obviously should handle things more gracefully.22:01
jgriffithhehe... now that we're all saying the same thing :)22:01
jgriffithmust be right based on quorum22:01
jungleboyj:-)  Trying to remember of the person to talk to about that internally and drawing a complete blank.  Names are not my thing today.22:02
mriedemmarkus_z22:03
mriedemor andreas22:03
mriedemor stefan amann22:03
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mriedemeither way, nova shouldn't shart and fall over on this22:03
mriedemso i'm going to tighten it up22:03
jungleboyjjgriffith: Better than a quarrel.22:04
jgriffithjungleboyj: TrueDat22:04
mriedemthem's are fightin' wurds22:04
jungleboyjThank you Stefan.22:06
jungleboyjmriedem: Sharting is bad.22:06
jgriffithYou and you're uppity citified ways... you think you're better an us!22:06
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/os-brick: Raise specific exception for an invalid protocol connector  https://review.openstack.org/39394122:08
mriedemthar she blar22:08
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/39378923:48
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