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| reed | good day all | 16:47 |
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| mrmartin | reed, are you around? | 19:58 |
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| reed | mrmartin, i m | 20:59 |
| mrmartin | so | 21:00 |
| mrmartin | I'll write an email | 21:00 |
| mrmartin | but shortly, this importerror issue we experienced with askbot deployment related to askbot | 21:00 |
| mrmartin | I did the virtualenv deployment both on precise and trusty | 21:00 |
| mrmartin | with python 2.7.3 and 2.7.6 | 21:00 |
| mrmartin | and askbot 0.7.50 and 0.7.53 | 21:00 |
| mrmartin | and 0.7.50 works well everywhere (it is the version we use for actual ask.openstack.org site) | 21:01 |
| mrmartin | so the conclusion is, that askbot broke somewhere between 0.7.50 and 0.7.53 (and the current git HEAD) | 21:02 |
| mrmartin | and this error type is not related to os environment, (trusty or precise) or python version | 21:02 |
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| reed | awesome | 21:08 |
| reed | so the error persists in venv with version 0.7.53? | 21:08 |
| mrmartin | yes | 21:09 |
| mrmartin | and it is the same without venv | 21:09 |
| mrmartin | because it depends on askbot version, not the environment type | 21:10 |
| reed | damn it | 21:10 |
| reed | so basically we have no way to upgrade until Evgeny finds the source of the issue? | 21:10 |
| mrmartin | so it is a lot of patch, maybe Evgeny knows better what could cause that, because now we have a point that works well | 21:10 |
| mrmartin | and can identify one that brake | 21:11 |
| mrmartin | we can go on, because patch approval required time | 21:11 |
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| reed | what combination works well? | 21:11 |
| mrmartin | everything works well with askbot 0.7.50 | 21:12 |
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| mrmartin | but I guess it not contains your g+ improvements | 21:12 |
| reed | which is the old version we run now, correct? | 21:12 |
| mrmartin | yes | 21:12 |
| reed | crap | 21:13 |
| mrmartin | the background of the problem I guess relies in the development model, because we are not running automated tests against a well-specified environment | 21:13 |
| reed | right | 21:13 |
| mrmartin | and I've tried to debug this with pdb and python behaviour was very strange | 21:13 |
| reed | the dependencies are not specified strictly enough? | 21:14 |
| mrmartin | it simply cannot find packages which was on the python path | 21:14 |
| mrmartin | the dependencies is ok | 21:14 |
| mrmartin | something happens inside askbot | 21:14 |
| reed | ok | 21:14 |
| mrmartin | or an askbot / django related thing | 21:14 |
| reed | so please write a summary of what you found | 21:14 |
| mrmartin | because basically it breaks deeply inside django | 21:14 |
| mrmartin | yeah, I write an email | 21:15 |
| mrmartin | it is not trivial to find what is wrong, but with rolling back git commits it is possible | 21:15 |
| reed | right | 21:15 |
| mrmartin | specially if we know the commit hash of the 0.7.50 | 21:15 |
| reed | write the email in a way that Evgeny can setup the venv you've been working with and trace back what breaks | 21:16 |
| mrmartin | ok | 21:16 |
| mrmartin | I'was looking around on the net to find different askbot deployment models, but most description is missing the proper environment definition | 21:17 |
| mrmartin | the ideal way could be to build apps against stable os packages | 21:18 |
| reed | yeah | 21:19 |
| mrmartin | it's hard to teach to devs | 21:19 |
| reed | django's promise breaks somewhere :) | 21:19 |
| mrmartin | every modern CMS has its own weak point | 21:19 |
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