Wednesday, 2014-11-19

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digahi dims16:54
digasdake16:54
digaI am not able to push my changes to the gerrit16:54
digagit review -s , is also working16:55
dimscheck "git remote -v"16:55
digahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/134842/16:56
digathis is my commit mesg with log16:57
digaroot@containers:~/Magnum_Fixes/magnum/magnum# git remote -v gerritssh://digambar@review.openstack.org:29418/stackforge/magnum.git (fetch) gerritssh://digambar@review.openstack.org:29418/stackforge/magnum.git (push) originhttps://github.com/dims/magnum.git (fetch) originhttps://github.com/dims/magnum.git (push)16:58
digathis is the output after "git review -v"16:59
dimsdiga, your origin is bad - git://git.openstack.org/stackforge/magnum17:01
digaok17:01
dimsbest to do a fresh checkout "git clone git://git.openstack.org/stackforge/magnum"17:01
digaohh17:02
digalet me do that17:02
openstackgerritDigambar proposed stackforge/magnum: Replaces Solum with Magnum.  https://review.openstack.org/13565817:04
digayes17:05
digaThanks dims17:05
Slowermaybe we can call magnum mammatus? :)17:06
digahahah17:07
dimsSlower: i am hoping Magnum refers to the ice cream :)17:08
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Slowermmmm, ice cream17:13
Slowerthere's magnum ice cream?17:13
digayes, there is17:16
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digaguys17:16
digarest client + rest server + db + container create/delete/list/sho17:16
digathis is the line from yesterdays meeting17:16
Slowerright17:16
SlowerI think we need an image in there..17:16
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digacan we discuss the fields for the db17:16
Slowerand keystone integration?17:17
* dims invoking sdake17:17
digaok17:17
Slowerwe need to decide if we are really going to do nested or not I guess17:17
digayes, that is also a important part17:17
dimsi just want get *something* working first :)17:18
Sloweryeah I agree17:18
Slowerit's usually pretty easy to change it up later17:18
Slowerhence the simplistic thing above I guess?17:19
dimsright Slower17:19
Slowerare we even going to have this tie into openstack for M1?17:19
diganeed to check with Adrian about this17:20
dimsSlower: if you ask me, we can do Nova API to kick off VM(s) with an OS with docker. then be able to call API's that can kick off a container in docker17:21
dimsas a min17:21
Slowerif we make our service in a docker container17:22
Slowerwe could do it without OS for now17:22
dimstrue.17:22
Slowerbecause really, how that container gets started could be orthogonol for M117:22
dimsyep17:23
Slowerorthogonal17:23
SlowerI think that makes sense for now17:24
Slowerthen we can expand the API, integrate with OS for M217:24
Sloweror something like that17:24
dimssounds good17:25
dimsBTW, the acl(s) are already setup from what i can tell, so +2 away!17:25
Slowercool17:25
dimsthere's a bunch from sdake and one from diga17:25
digayes17:26
digaI will soon commit many changes to this17:26
digaI think we should structured plan for M117:29
Slowerdims: sdake already has a keystone patch up for review17:30
digawhat is the end date of milestone #1 ?17:30
Slowerdiga: I think someone mentioned dec 8th17:30
Slowerbut I think it's just a guess :)17:30
digaok17:30
Slowerdims: ah and you +2'd it already .. :)17:31
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dims18th - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule17:34
dimsSlower: :)17:34
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sdakemorning17:47
digaVery good Morning17:48
sdakei mentioned dec 8th as a day that makes sense on the calendar17:48
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed stackforge/magnum: Add initial conductor API and service  https://review.openstack.org/13568117:55
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sdakediga ^18:00
Slowersdake: do we care about solum references? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135412/18:01
sdakeoh ya i'll fix that18:01
sdakewe care18:01
Slowerfigured it might be good to do it now..18:01
sdakeso I've been jacking some solum code :)18:01
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sdakeno sense rewriting18:01
Slowerya, that's good :)18:01
Slowerindeed18:02
digahi18:02
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sdakediga there is the review I am working on18:02
digaok18:02
sdakegive me another 20 mins and I'll have it in shape so you can take on the layer of the db18:02
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digasure18:03
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openstackgerritDigambar proposed stackforge/magnum: Replaces Solum with Magnum. Added doc string for the Magnum API.  https://review.openstack.org/13565818:04
openstackgerritDigambar proposed stackforge/magnum: Added a doc string for Magnum API.  https://review.openstack.org/13568218:04
digayes18:05
sdakeslower can you ack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135409/1 so I can fix that keystone patch18:06
Slowersdake: just did18:09
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnum: Import oslo-incubator's logging library  https://review.openstack.org/13540918:09
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnum: Add H302 to the ignored hacking rules list  https://review.openstack.org/13542518:10
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnum: Create a ReST API entrypoint  https://review.openstack.org/13541018:10
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnum: Add context base module from oslo-incubator  https://review.openstack.org/13541118:10
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digasdake: have decided 9511 port for magnum ??18:14
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnum: Replaces Solum with Magnum. Added doc string for the Magnum API.  https://review.openstack.org/13565818:15
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sdake9511= randomly made up port - change ifyou like :)18:17
Slowernothing in /etc/services for that18:17
Slowerprobably a good choice18:18
Sloweras good as any18:18
digaok18:23
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed stackforge/magnum: Add Keystone authentication to rest API  https://review.openstack.org/13541218:24
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Slowerdims: ^ :)18:27
dimsman tough crowd :)18:28
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dimssdake: auth.py is from where?18:31
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sdakei jacked it from solum18:32
dimscool. Done18:32
sdakepretty sure asalkeld wrote it18:32
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnum: Add Keystone authentication to rest API  https://review.openstack.org/13541218:33
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digaHey, Its late night here18:35
digasee you on tomorrow18:35
dimsbye diga18:36
digaHave a nice day  :)18:36
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openstackgerritAbhishek Chanda proposed stackforge/magnum: Do not say we support py3  https://review.openstack.org/13569618:59
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Slowerdid adrian send an email re magnum M1 yet?  If so I haven't seen it..19:11
achandadon't think so19:12
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed stackforge/magnum: Add initial conductor API and service  https://review.openstack.org/13568119:23
sdakeslower that conductor code is essentially a database proxy19:25
sdakethat sits on the amqp network and does the right thing19:25
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Slowersdake: yeah I don't have a lot of experience with how the backends are arranged19:30
sdakethis model will be pretty good19:31
sdakeI think nova does this as well19:31
sdakeyou remember heat engine wrote to the db19:31
sdakein this case all the db code is in one process19:31
sdake(the conductor)19:31
sdakeand writes and reads happen via rpc19:32
sdakesince we could have thousands of machines wanting to read/write the database this model works well :)19:32
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnum: Do not say we support py3  https://review.openstack.org/13569619:35
sdakeI think we need some type of objects file19:35
sdakewith the four objects in our system19:35
sdakei'd get cracking on that,but I'm unclear whta should go in the bay19:36
sdakeI guess we can make them separatee files19:37
sdakewell diga indicated he was planning to crack the db19:40
sdakeso I guess I'll work on something else :)19:40
Slowersdake: ok cool19:40
sdakeclient it is !19:41
Slowersdake: we get a client repo?19:41
sdakehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/135436/19:43
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sdakedaneyon around?19:48
daneyon sdake: hey19:48
sdakeI've been thinking about how to implement service in a multi-tenant environment19:48
sdakeI was thinking what could happen is you ask for a specific port when you register the service19:49
sdakeyou get back an "external port" which you can then communicate to directly19:49
sdakeand that external port is somehow managed by neutron automagically19:49
sdakewould something like that work?19:49
daneyonhave you seen the k8s proposal with the ambassador stuff?19:50
sdakeno19:50
daneyonlet me find the PR... one min19:50
sdakethanks19:50
daneyonhttps://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/kubernetes/issues/110719:51
daneyonlet me review it again. ping me when you have looked at it.19:51
sdakeFor these reasons, I think we can do better.19:53
sdakelol ;)19:53
daneyonseems pretty complex to me.19:54
sdakewell I am slow reader19:54
sdakehaven't even got to their solution yet19:54
sdakeThe Ambassador is how clients access a Service (kubernetes-native apps may choose to link or implement an Ambassador directly into their app).19:55
sdakethat is a complete nonstarter imo19:55
daneyonwhy is that?19:57
sdakewell if its mandatory linking, that seems ugh19:57
sdakebut I guess they are using the api already19:57
sdakeso maybe its ok19:57
daneyoni think the key word there is may. i don't believe it's required19:58
sdakeright19:58
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daneyonI think option 1 would be a no-go for us due to the shared ambassador.20:00
sdakei just got through readin g the options20:00
sdakeagree re option 120:00
sdakeoption #3 is somethign like what I was trying to explain to you earlier :)20:01
sdakei like option #2 tho - 1 ip per service20:01
sdakerather then 1 ip per pod20:02
sdakerather, 1 ip per service, 1 ip per pod, link em together20:02
sdakeis that possible?20:02
sdakeboy I wish I knew more about networking magic20:02
daneyonlet me look at option 2 again20:03
daneyonlooks like option 2 still has a single kube-proxy. do you think that's an issue for multi-tenancy?20:04
daneyonwell, I guess kube-proxy is not multi-tenant in any of the options.20:05
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daneyonsdake: I think we may be able to accomplish something similar using the nova or neutron code for floating-ip's.20:12
daneyonsdake: With floating-ip's, we have a pool of IP's similar to the k8s portal concept.20:13
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daneyonsdake: floating-ip's map a public ip to a neutron/nova port that connects to an instance that already has a private ip.20:14
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daneyonsdake: In our use-case, instead of associating a floating-ip to a neutron/nova port. we would need to associate the flaoting-ip ID to a service ID. The service should then program IP tables on each pod with a label that matches the label selector of the service. This will provide connectivity end-to-end.20:19
daneyonsdake: The other aspect here is opening the correct network port for the service. Magnum would need a mechanism to use the port definition in the service definition to update IPtables firewall rules on the associated pods with labels that match the lableSelector within the service definition.20:23
daneyonsdake: thoughts?20:24
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* dims back20:28
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sdakedaneyon cool thanks20:55
sdakeslower was there a call at 2pm?20:55
sdakeetg, 5mins20:55
Sloweryeah21:00
Slowerright now :)21:00
SlowerI think we were going to do g+21:00
Slowerdims?21:00
dimsam here21:00
Slowersdake: you ok with g+?21:01
sdakei dont have that setup21:01
sdakebut I guess I could try21:01
sdakeor we could use a phone bridge21:01
dimsi have one we can use21:02
Slowereither is fine21:02
sdakecool let me try to find a phone tho :)21:02
dimssdake: hehe21:02
sdakeall my phones including cell are out of juice21:03
sdakecan we wait 15 mins?21:03
sdakethen my cell will be charged enough for a call21:03
Slowersure21:03
dimssure21:03
sdakesorry for inconvience21:03
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* sdake fires wife for never putting phone on charger!21:04
dimsPM'ed both of you with the bridge info21:04
dimsanyone else interested, let me know21:04
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dimssdake: i'll start when you are ready :)21:04
sdakecool lets start at 20 after that should give my phone enough time to charge21:05
dimsack21:07
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sdakedims slower phone only at 7% that wont last more then 10 mins :(21:26
sdakeand I hvae to pick my kid up at 3:1521:26
sdakeits 2:27 atm21:27
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Slowersdake: want to try setting up g+?21:31
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sdakephone is charged lets try bridge21:31
Slowerwe're on21:31
Slowerdims: do you know pecan?21:57
dimsSlower: not yet :)21:57
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Slowersame :)22:04
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achandaso, the client got merged22:21
Slowercool22:31
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