Tuesday, 2015-02-10

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yuanying_morning00:48
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sdakehey yuanying_01:38
sdakeare you on fedora 21?01:38
sdakeif so, I found one possible cause of your problem01:38
yuanying_yes, I use Fedora-Cloud-Atomic-20141203-21.x86_64.qcow201:40
sdakeI mean your host os01:41
yuanying_no, I uses ubuntu 14.0401:41
sdakehmm01:41
sdakewhat version of syslinux package do you have01:41
sdakeversion 6 splits pxelinux.0 into separate modules01:41
sdakeversion 4 does not (where I originally tested)01:42
sdakef21 has version 601:42
sdakeI haven' tquite booted it yet, because I need to inspect the image to see the ostree flag01:42
sdakebut I get pas tthe deploy to the imaged boot01:43
sdakeand then atomic complains it can't switch to the ostree location because it doesn't exist01:43
yuanying_ubuntu 14.04 said syslinux Version: 3:4.05+dfsg-6+deb8u101:45
yuanying_I try to boot atomic again.01:46
yuanying_I think no differenc between provious environment to current my environment..01:47
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sdakewhat is the actual error you get, I couldn't see from the last paste you posted01:48
sdakeit had a bunch of ansi in it01:48
yuanying_wait a moment, I start my ironic environment01:51
yuanying_"Boot Device Not Found"01:56
yuanying_Now my environment seems broken. current log is strange.01:59
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sdakenever seen boot device not found02:16
sdake_my localrc: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/183572/4235346302:17
sdake_Note if you boot all your ironic nodes (I have 4) and they fail in some way, ironic gets jammed up02:17
sdake_have to unstack/restack02:17
yuanying_Thanks I re-create my env now.02:18
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sdakeanyone know about rabbit ha in here?02:25
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yuanying_sdake_: screen shot is here. http://www.fraction.jp/tmp/baremetalbrbm_0.png03:25
yuanying_I have same issue.03:26
yuanying_previous env.03:26
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sdakeyuanying_ any luck?04:03
yuanying_I take screen shot.  http://www.fraction.jp/tmp/baremetalbrbm_0.png04:04
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yuanying_I can't boot atomic, Shoud I use fedora 20?04:04
sdakeis that thte first boot or the second?04:04
sdakef21 with a yum update would do the job04:05
sdakecan you try booting cirros with ironic?04:05
sdake(it should auto-register correctly)04:05
yuanying_cirros image can start, so I guess this is second boot. but I didn't check it.04:06
sdakeif cirros image boots then your in good shape04:06
sdakewhich image are you using?04:06
sdakejust atomic release?04:06
sdakeok - lets just table the atomic booting for now04:06
sdakeand focus on f21 with a yum update saved to a new image04:06
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sdakewe need changes to ironic to support atomic anyway04:07
yuanying_ya, I use ubuntu for host, so should I use fedora 20 for host?04:07
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yuanying_Now, I use Fedora-Cloud-Atomic-20141203-21.x86_64.qcow2 and use convert.sh to create raw image.04:08
sdakeuse f21 for the os image04:09
sdakenot the host, the guest04:09
sdakeafter running yum update on it04:10
sdakekeep your host the same04:10
sdakef21 and fedora cloud aotmic are exactly the same thing with slight variations on upgrade approaches04:10
sdakesame file bits iiuc :)04:11
yuanying_It means, I try to boot f21 on ironic?04:12
yuanying_And modify heat-template using f21?04:12
yuanying_OK04:13
yuanying_I see04:13
yuanying_I slightly confused, but now I understand.04:13
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sdakecool so ya boot f21 on ironic instead of atomic04:32
sdakebut make sure to update f21 using yum update  first and then save the image - then boot that saved image04:33
sdakewe can tackle fedora/rhel/centos atomic once we get the dependency blueprint fixed that is kicking around in a specification atm04:33
sdakei am a bit overloaded anddoubt I will be able to implement that ironic feature in kilo04:33
sdakeyuanying_04:34
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yuanying_ok04:34
yuanying_And my collegue will contribute to Magnum.04:35
yuanying_I intend to share some task to her04:36
sdakenice!04:37
sdakedoes she need suggested work items?04:37
sdakeor do you have stuff to put her on04:37
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yuanying_I don't know about her skill, so I test with some easy bug first.04:38
sdakeI am concerned python-k8sclient will not finish in milestone #2 because the upstream dependency we were planning to use was deleted from github04:39
sdakethat would be one area we could use more help with - prad is a bit overloaded for kilo-2 atm as well04:39
yuanying_hmm04:39
sdakeif we get the dependency undeleted it will need development04:39
sdakeif not, we can use swig to generate a python binding04:40
yuanying_OK, so I invite her this irc channel04:40
sdakei'd like somoene to try to see how well the swig approach would work04:40
sdakecool04:40
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yuanying_ok, madhuri04:44
yuanying_sdake: she is04:44
sdakemadhuri welcome to the party :)04:44
sdakeshe is what?04:44
madhuriThank you :)04:44
yuanying_my collegue04:44
sdakeoh04:45
sdakemadhuri ahve you had a chance to run through the quickstart guide of magnum?04:46
madhuriYes.04:47
sdakedid you have any questions about what has been done thus far?04:47
madhuriActually I am trying to have a hands-on on it.04:47
sdakesorry I didn't understand what you meant, could you clarify04:48
madhuriI am trying to install magnum now.04:48
sdakegot it04:48
sdakecool, if you nee dany help feel free to ping me04:49
sdakeor yuanying_ as well of course :)04:49
madhuriYes sure. Thank you!04:49
sdakethe quickstart is really well developed, so it shoudl be pretty straightforward04:49
madhuriYes. It is.04:50
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sdakehongbin ping04:54
hongbinsdake yes04:54
hongbinthe AUTO works very well04:54
sdakedid you test that replacement_policy: auto works correctly?04:54
sdakecool04:54
sdakeI'll go ahead and merge then04:55
hongbinHave sent a pull request04:55
hongbinthe review?04:55
sdakeyup I just merged it04:56
hongbinoh04:56
hongbinyou have the permission04:56
hongbin:)04:56
sdakeyup04:56
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hongbinsee you all04:58
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sdaketake care hongbin04:59
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sdakeadrian_otto happen to be around?05:59
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adrian_ottoI am06:03
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sdakehow does the remote participation work for the midcyle06:04
sdakeI remember you set that up at the solum kickoff06:05
sdakedaneyon had suggested we could use webex - not sure what system you used before since I was in person06:05
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sdakei'm off to bed, enjoy :)06:46
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yuanying_I think, ./rejoin-stack.sh is not worked for ironic.......10:19
yuanying_not worked correctly10:19
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openstackgerritMotohiro/Yuanying Otsuka proposed stackforge/magnum: WIP: Implement a Heat k8s template for Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/15443712:04
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed stackforge/magnum: Switch Documentation url to dev-quickstart  https://review.openstack.org/15449514:34
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sdake_morning15:42
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hongbinsdake morning sir15:48
sdake_hey hongbin15:53
hongbinhey15:53
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hongbindiga ping16:25
digahongbin: hi16:25
hongbinI want to ask you about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/141764216:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1417642 in Magnum "Pull in updates from larsks heat template repo" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Digambar (digambarpatil15)16:26
hongbinI need it to be landed soon. Do you mind I work on that.16:26
digayes16:26
digaI am going to commit it by today eod16:27
hongbink16:27
digaI was not feeling well since yesterday so I didn't work, I have listed out all the logs from larsks repo & i will commit all those by today16:28
hongbinSorry to hear that.16:29
digaNP16:30
hongbinYes, if you can do that, that will be great. I appreciate that.16:30
digaThanks16:33
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openstackgerritDigambar proposed stackforge/magnum: Pull in updates from larsks heat template repo  https://review.openstack.org/15298517:25
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sdakehey guys21:04
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed stackforge/magnum: WIP: Integrate kubernetes client apis with conductor  https://review.openstack.org/15467921:49
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adrian_ottoOur team meeting will begin in a few minutes in #openstack-meeting-alt21:56
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adrian_otto#startmeeting containers22:00
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adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-02-10_2200_UTC Our Agenda22:00
adrian_otto#topic Roll Call22:00
adrian_ottoAdrian Otto22:00
adrian_ottohahahah22:00
adrian_ottowrong channel!!22:00
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adrian_ottorepeated in #openstack-meeting-alt sorry about that.22:01
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wkharoldadrian_otto: I'm not sure getting different output depending on the backend is a good thing from a devops perspective23:01
adrian_ottothe question is if additional attributes on the bay resource should be there to support the union of all backends23:02
adrian_ottoor if some backends could cause additional attributes to show up23:02
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adrian_ottothe API endpoint is one thing23:02
wkharoldOK, so I guess my problem is that I don't see a ton of value in "agnosticism"23:03
adrian_ottobut consider for example the output of "docker-machine config…"23:03
wkharoldif I'm an OpenStack devops guy, I don't want to know about docker-machine23:04
wkharoldI just want to instantiate a bay from a bay model23:04
adrian_ottowhat you want is an easy way to connect the "docker" cli client to a container you created in Magnum23:05
wkharoldwhy wouldn't I just use the magnum cli to manipulate those containers?23:05
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adrian_ottoif you just wanted to do simple CROD management, you would23:06
adrian_ottobut each backend will continue to develop features in their own unique directions23:06
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wkharoldin my experience that approach usually ends in tears23:07
sdakeevery type of backend we end up with will be slightly different23:07
adrian_ottoso offering a way to access those different backends using a native interface frees us form keeping up with every feature of every backend and patching a leaky abstraction of them23:07
apmeltonadrian_otto: I think we've already started leaking backend features up through the magnum api23:07
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wkharoldwhat is the value in multiple backends?23:07
sdaketo support strongly emergent container systems23:08
sdakefor example, docker is off the hook23:08
adrian_ottothe same reason that virt drivers are pluggable in Nova23:08
sdakekubernetes is off teh hook23:08
wkharoldoff the hook?23:08
sdakebusy23:08
sdakelots of action23:08
sdakepeople have a desire to contribute and use them23:08
wkharoldright23:08
sdakethat is why we need to support multiple backends23:09
sdakebecause new hot tech will become strongly emergent imo23:09
sdakeI don't think there will be one winner23:09
adrian_ottonote that Nova with KVM and Nova with Xen are similar, but not exactly the same23:09
wkharoldthere will always be hot new tech23:09
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adrian_ottobut the Nova API is the union of both23:09
adrian_ottothat's not necessary23:10
sdakexen and kvm don't have different object models23:10
wkharoldper apmelton, the magnum architecture already adopts most of the core k8s concepts23:10
apmeltonI wasn't saying that was a good thing23:10
wkharoldpushing those onto, say, swarm seems a reach23:10
wkharoldmaybe not, but it's so regardless23:11
sdakei agree, which is why when you deploy a bay, you get features that match the backend23:11
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sdakeif you deploy swarmd, you dont get pods or rcs23:11
wkharoldthen what happens when you do magnum pod-list with a swarm backend?23:11
sdakei would like to adjust the api so there is no pod-list23:12
sdakebut instead "object-list"23:12
sdakeor something similar23:12
apmeltonsdake: interesting23:12
sdakethat is a generic way to access all of the objects of the backend that make up the scheduling and coordination23:12
sdakethis is a topic for the midcycle23:12
sdakeit solves a whole bunch of problems23:12
adrian_ottois t on the topic list already?23:13
sdakei added yesterday23:13
* apmelton is on the edge of my seat for the midcycle23:13
wkharoldsorry, I think it creates a whole bunch of problems23:13
adrian_ottoyeah, that will be a good discussion23:13
sdakeapmelton how much was your hotel rate23:13
apmelton299 D:23:13
sdakewkharold it is possible, that is why it is discussion rather then approved23:13
sdakewe need to have a high bandwidth discussion about it23:13
sdakei dont think irc is going to do the job :)23:13
adrian_otto:-)23:14
sdakebecause it is a significant change23:14
wkharoldyes, it is ...23:14
sdakewkharold are you making the midcycle?23:14
wkharoldtravel money, non-existent23:14
sdakebummer23:14
wkharoldsadness23:14
sdakewell you can be in remote23:14
sdakeiirc the problem with the remote last time is people in google hangouts couldn't speak in the room23:15
wkharoldyup, I'll connect as much as possible23:15
sdakethey had to type on irc23:15
apmeltonadrian_otto: our VC allows guests right?23:15
wkharold\groan23:15
sdakewhat does vc mean23:15
apmeltonvideo conference23:15
adrian_ottoI was thinkign of using my Vidyo room23:15
adrian_ottoso we can have as many remotes as we want23:15
sdakewe could use webex, although it doesn't work on linux23:15
sdakethen the whole schebang would be recorded as well23:16
wkharoldI have a Mac @ home23:16
wkharolddoesn't everyone?23:16
apmeltonhehe23:16
sdakeI didn't until I joined cisco ;-)23:16
adrian_ottowkharold: what city/town do you live in?23:16
sdakeI have an HP z82023:16
wkharoldAustin23:16
sdakerockin piece of equiment23:16
adrian_ottowkharold: ok23:16
adrian_ottoare you close enough to downtown to get the Google 1Gig internet service?23:17
adrian_ottoor Grande telecom has it too now I think23:17
adrian_ottosomething silly like $40/mo for a gig internet connection23:18
apmeltonT_T23:18
wkharoldI have T/W ultimate @ home ... where do you connect to google 1g downtown?23:18
apmeltonand I'm paying 110 for 25mbit23:18
wkharoldseems excessive23:18
adrian_ottomy co-worker Joe was talking about it. He is in our Austin office.23:19
sdakecox is rolling gig-e throughout phoenix23:19
sdakeI heard 6 months until they deliver in our area23:19
sdakei have 100mbit atm for 99$ /mo23:19
adrian_ottothat sounds great to me23:20
wkharoldgoogle is rolling out google fiber in Austin, but it's going to hipster-ville first23:20
wkharolddamn kids23:20
apmeltonmy company wants 200+ for 100mbit23:20
adrian_ottoI have FiOS with 25x2523:20
apmeltonO23:20
adrian_ottoI can get up to 500 Mb/sec in my office for like #375 or something23:20
wkharoldsdake: z820 looks nice, how loud are the fans?23:20
apmeltonha23:20
sdakereally quiet23:21
sdakecan't hear it at all23:21
sdakeI run ssds23:21
sdakewhen I ran with hard disks I could hear it all the time23:21
sdakeI'd pay up to 300$/mo for gige23:22
sdakemy upstream is only 25mbit - i want that part faster23:22
sdakeor uplink or whatever its called23:22
sdakecool thing about cox is they offer a boost for 10-15 seconds23:23
sdakeso downloads of smaller stuff is REALLY fast23:23
sdakelike a tarball is done immediately23:23
apmeltonI'm pretty jealous of fios' symmetric up/down23:23
apmeltonanyways, I need to hop off, y'all have a good evening23:24
wkharoldditto23:24
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnum: Pull in updates from larsks heat template repo  https://review.openstack.org/15298523:50
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