Wednesday, 2015-02-11

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pwacHey... does anyone know what's the status of nova-docker driver in kilo? Will it be officially added to openstack?13:39
dims__pwac: when kilo is out, there will be a branch and tag cut that works with that version of nova etc.13:47
pwacso in other words, nova docker driver will not become part of openstack as of kilo?13:48
dims__pwac: Do you want to use nova-docker or is this a business strategy kind of question? (need some context)13:51
pwacdims__: business strategy. We wont to support in our openstack flavor. I want to know what are the plans for this driver. According to 'https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Docker',   nova-docker driver was schedule to become part of mainline nova in kilo, but if I understand you correctly, that's not the case (which would mean the webpage could use an update..). Is that correct?13:53
pwacdims__: basically, our customer want to do HPC on OpenStack, and it would be best to use docker for that (no virt overhead). And we were hoping to use nova-docker driver for that.13:53
dims__pwac: there's a nova-specs review in progress - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128753/ for going from stackforge/ namespace back into openstack/13:57
dims__pwac: having said that there is a fully functional driver with a CI to verify issues keeping up with nova trunk all the time. So you can be sure there will be a driver that works with docker13:58
dims__whether or not it is part of mainline nova13:58
dims__if you see neutron, they are breaking apart drivers as well. same thing may or may not happen to nova as well13:59
dims__if you ask me, you should try to see if nova-docker has the features you need and evaluate based on that rather than which namespace it belongs to14:00
dims__my 2 cents :)14:00
pwacdims__: sure, that makes sense, thanks. So, the nova-specs, you sent. Does that mean there is still a chance nova will become part of mainaline openstack as of kilo? Or is it already too late to make it for kilo, and there's a chance of doing that for L?14:00
pwacdims__: yup, I completely agree on that.14:00
dims__since we missed Milestone-2. will not make it in kilo14:01
pwacdims__: ok, in that case we will give it a go with that kilo tag/brach from stackforge14:02
dims__pwac: check the bugs too, i've some bugs filed already that show some short comings,14:02
dims__pwac: nova core folks have to define a criteria about which driver features are absolute must. been pending for a bit14:03
pwacdims__: I see...14:03
dims__pwac: end of day if nova-docker does not do what you want (say mount cinder volume), then you can't use it14:03
dims__note that for mounting cinder volumes it's a docker deficiency that is being worked on though :)14:04
dims__so anyway, you need to make sure your features required for your customer are there14:04
pwacdims__: yeah, sure14:05
pwacdims__: and what are you thoughts on  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum  , in the context of nova-docker ?14:05
dims__pwac: it's a young project, in M1, we used kubernetes and built infrastructure around how best to deploy and run K8 using the openstack infrastructure. in addition to https://github.com/stackforge/magnum/blob/master/doc/source/dev/dev-quickstart.rst i'd recommend reading https://github.com/stackforge/magnum/blob/master/specs/containers-service.rst to get a sense of where the project is headed14:09
pwacdims__: thanks, will have a look14:10
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sdake__morning15:15
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sdake__hey hongbin16:06
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openstackgerritAndrew Melton proposed stackforge/magnum: Create heat template for docker-swarm bay  https://review.openstack.org/15367122:22
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