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| notmyname | ttx: mtaylor: we need to propose a backport to 1.5.0. How do we do that with gerrit? | 03:54 |
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| clarkb | does 1.5.0 have a branch? you could git review branch_name | 04:00 |
| clarkb | looks like it is a tag. In that case I don't know | 04:02 |
| gholt | Well, I did a 'git checkout -b milestone-proposed 1.5.0' then applied the patch and then 'git review milestone-proposed' might be what's wanted, not sure. | 04:02 |
| gholt | We'll see what folks say :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8467/ | 04:02 |
| gholt | I hate that Gerrit likes to rewrap my text comments. Ah well, it's mostly readable. | 04:06 |
| notmyname | gholt: ah ok. That works, but the local 1.5.0 branch you now have could be confusing later since it doesn't really have anything to do with the 1.5.0 tag | 04:06 |
| gholt | Yeah, I delete all local branches after a git review anyway, because it causes so much confusion [to me]. | 04:06 |
| notmyname | Me too :) | 04:07 |
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| jgriffith | does anybody here know how I push a changset to somebody elses gerrit Draft? | 04:30 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: I want to say keep the change Id the same and it should just work (tm) | 04:34 |
| clarkb | I can test it here shortly | 04:35 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: Cool... I tried that but something got bonked up | 04:35 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: I made my changes, did a "git commit --amend -a" and a "git review -D" | 04:35 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: I've done this with my own Drafts plenty of times, but never with somebody elses :( | 04:38 |
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| clarkb | jgriffith: so I got it to work | 04:40 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: What did I miss? | 04:41 |
| clarkb | `git review -d change_number` hack hack hack `git commit -a --amend` `git commit -D` | 04:41 |
| clarkb | where change number is not the change Id but the thing at the end of the gerrit URL | 04:41 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: dang it, that's what I did | 04:41 |
| clarkb | are you a reviewer on the draft? | 04:42 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: yep | 04:42 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: very odd | 04:42 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: Of course now I think I've got git in such a funk that I'll never unravel it | 04:43 |
| clarkb | er that second commit should be a review, but I think you understood | 04:43 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: hehe... yeah | 04:43 |
| jgriffith | Hmmm... | 04:43 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: oh I know | 04:43 |
| jgriffith | I think I may know what happened... | 04:43 |
| clarkb | is that draft against a branch other than master? | 04:43 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: Oh.. interesting, lemme check | 04:44 |
| clarkb | you may need to specify the branch otherwise rebasing tends to get nasty and scary | 04:44 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: So I think rebasing is infact the root of my trouble here | 04:44 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: It is off of master | 04:45 |
| jgriffith | but I think the rebase is what's causing me grief | 04:45 |
| jgriffith | It had a conflict and I screwed around to get the merge to go | 04:45 |
| jgriffith | and then I had a fast forward error | 04:45 |
| jgriffith | and now I think I'm screwed | 04:45 |
| clarkb | :( | 04:46 |
| jgriffith | I'm going to try and clone, pull the review and just change a single line as a test and see if I can get it to go | 04:46 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: Thanks for looking at it with me | 04:47 |
| clarkb | np and good luck | 04:47 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: thanks! | 04:47 |
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| asisin | howdy folks, how do I go about figuring out why my vm instance ends up in vm_state=error | 04:57 |
| asisin | i'm using nova boot | 04:58 |
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| jgriffith | asisin: The logs are probably the best place to start | 04:59 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: It was the stupid rebase... got it working now | 05:08 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: Thanks again | 05:08 |
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| GheRivero | morning people | 06:09 |
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| trapni | morning | 06:42 |
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| ttx | notmyname: To do so we'd have to do a stable/1.5.0 branch, while we are only supporting stable/<series> like stable/essex... so it's a bit of a problem | 07:18 |
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| ttx | notmyname: what would you do with that ? Release 1.5.0.1 ? | 07:19 |
| ttx | notmyname: alternatively, would hastening 1.5.1 work ? | 07:20 |
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| ttx | notmyname: what fix is this ? | 07:20 |
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| ttx | gholt: filing a bug to track that would probably be a good idea, if you haven't one already (no bug link on the proposed change) | 07:26 |
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| zykes- | ttx: do you know of any events in the summer in europe ? | 07:27 |
| ttx | europython early july, LSM mid-July... FROScon in August... must be Linux Foundation thing in August too | 07:28 |
| ttx | ah no. It's in November. | 07:29 |
| ttx | GUADEC end-July | 07:30 |
| ttx | zykes-: does that help ? | 07:30 |
| zykes- | openstack ? ;) | 07:31 |
| ttx | Nothing openstack-specific, but openstack is present ayT Europython, for example | 07:32 |
| vuntz | btw, are the dates for the fall summit known? | 07:32 |
| ttx | vuntz: should be the week of October 15. There should be more details starting next week | 07:32 |
| ttx | It's like 99.99% sure on the week of October 15. | 07:33 |
| ttx | and 80% sure on west coast :( | 07:33 |
| vuntz | phew, I was afraid it'd be on the last week of October, which would have been a nice conflict for me | 07:34 |
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| ttx | vuntz: (their west coast, not ours) | 07:34 |
| vuntz | heh | 07:34 |
| vuntz | let's go to Brest! | 07:34 |
| zykes- | ttx: location ? | 07:36 |
| zykes- | for the next summit ;p | 07:36 |
| ttx | zykes-: not confirmed yet. | 07:36 |
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| soren | ttx: What makes you suggest that virtualisation has been disabled? | 12:05 |
| soren | (Assuming context is obvious) | 12:05 |
| ttx | I'm trying to find something that have been changed at host-level without us knowing... and ISTR that disabling virt results in that uninformative error message... | 12:06 |
| ttx | soren: so it's a bit of a stab in the dark | 12:06 |
| soren | ttx: Which error message? | 12:07 |
| ttx | (I don't have access to those machines myself :) | 12:07 |
| soren | I'm just curious because I don't understand how "virtualisation has been disabled" makes sense at all. | 12:07 |
| ttx | the libvirt error posted in the bug | 12:07 |
| soren | These are cloud instances. They use QEmu, which is an entirely user-space thing. How can it be disabled? | 12:07 |
| ttx | oh, they don't use kvm-in-kvm ? | 12:07 |
| soren | I.. | 12:07 |
| soren | Err.. | 12:08 |
| soren | I guess they might be, but I didn't think so. | 12:08 |
| ttx | soren: ok, then probably wrong guess | 12:08 |
| ttx | but /something/ changed on hpcloud precise instances around 1900 UTC yesterday. | 12:08 |
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| soren | I have an instance on there that's older than that. | 12:12 |
| soren | Let me check if it allows kvm-in-kvm. | 12:12 |
| soren | Darn it, no kvm modules. | 12:13 |
| soren | I'll have to reboot (and potentially lose kvm-in-kvm if it were there before). | 12:14 |
| ttx | soren: bah, they can probably debug it by running the tests under a similar environment with a bit more libvirt debugging enabled | 12:15 |
| ttx | but it's not intermittent, it's a 100% fail at starting instances. | 12:15 |
| ttx | (and meanwhile a 100% success on rackspace-precise instances) | 12:16 |
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| soren | ttx: There's no way kvm works on Rackspace cloud. It's Xen. | 12:18 |
| danpb | ttx: soren : any libvirt errors I can help you understand /diagnose ? | 12:18 |
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| ttx | soren: it's probably all running qemu. hp and rax. | 12:19 |
| soren | danpb: Not really. Only "instance not found: blah". | 12:19 |
| ttx | danpb: we are looking into https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1012595 | 12:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1012595 in openstack-ci "Intermittent failure running new instances" [Critical,Confirmed] | 12:19 |
| ttx | but it's a bit of blackbox debugging. | 12:19 |
| ttx | We should wait for the CI guys with proper access :) | 12:20 |
| danpb | looking at the /var/log/libvirt/qemu/instance-0000001.log file is probably a good first step for whoever has access | 12:21 |
| ttx | danpb: indeed :) | 12:21 |
| ttx | LinuxJedi: ^ | 12:21 |
| * danpb would be surprised if any cloud had nested-KVM enabled, given how unreliable that code is | 12:22 | |
| soren | I have my doubts as to whether that file exsits at all. | 12:22 |
| ttx | soren: you think it fails to define the domain even before trying to start it ? | 12:22 |
| soren | ttx: I take back my statement. It's probably there. | 12:24 |
| soren | ttx: Although, to answer your question, that file doesn't come into existence until the domain has been run the first time. | 12:24 |
| soren | ttx: Just defining it doesn't do that. | 12:24 |
| LinuxJedi | danpb: I really wouldn't be surprised if we don't have it enabled | 12:25 |
| soren | Awesome. I think I've broken hpcloud. | 12:25 |
| LinuxJedi | soren: really? How? | 12:25 |
| soren | LinuxJedi: Well, not all of it (this time). | 12:25 |
| soren | Just one of the nodes. | 12:25 |
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| soren | I tried to kexec one of my instances. | 12:26 |
| soren | It never came back. | 12:26 |
| soren | Then I issued a reboot request. | 12:26 |
| soren | Now I can't even get a console-log. | 12:26 |
| LinuxJedi | soren: lol! :) | 12:26 |
| soren | ..which suggests that the node in question is stuck somewhere. | 12:26 |
| LinuxJedi | someone on our team got a node in a similar state yesterday | 12:27 |
| soren | I might be able to salvage it by deleting the instance, but I'm not inclined to do so right now. | 12:27 |
| soren | Oh! It's back. | 12:27 |
| soren | Gosh, took it long enough. | 12:27 |
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| * ttx will step back and let the people with access and/or knowledge fix it | 12:28 | |
| soren | danpb: Do you happen to know if there's any way I can tell (from inside a VM) whether I was booted with "kvm -kernel=.. -ramdisk=.." or whether Grub was involved at all? | 12:29 |
| soren | Hm.. I think I found my answer. | 12:30 |
| soren | And I like it. | 12:30 |
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| danpb | soren: afaik the guest shouldn't be able to figure that out in general | 12:32 |
| soren | danpb: There turned out to be a hint in the kernel command line. | 12:33 |
| danpb | ah right | 12:33 |
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| LinuxJedi | soren: does it help figure out why this isn't working on our cloud? | 12:37 |
| soren | LinuxJedi: Nope. | 12:37 |
| LinuxJedi | hehe :) | 12:37 |
| soren | Oh, I thnk I know why it fails. | 12:43 |
| soren | Give me one minute. | 12:43 |
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| soren | It doesn't seem to be virt related at all. | 12:44 |
| soren | The "instance not found" thing is perfectly normal. | 12:45 |
| soren | It happens before we start a new instance, because we (for some reason) check whether the name is already in use. | 12:45 |
| soren | https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/5038/artifact/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt shows, however, that it's followed by a failed request to nova-network. | 12:46 |
| soren | "failed" as in timed out. | 12:46 |
| soren | Search for "Timed out waiting for RPC response" | 12:46 |
| soren | Now, why that request never seems to reach nova-network... I can't say. | 12:46 |
| soren | Hmmm. I todes. | 12:47 |
| soren | It does. | 12:47 |
| soren | "I todes"? | 12:47 |
| soren | Wow. I blame my keyboard. | 12:47 |
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| smoser | markmc, are you able to +1 ? | 12:56 |
| smoser | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8126/ | 12:56 |
| smoser | sorry for not being usorry for jenkins ignorance, but 'code-review' for you says "check" rather than "+1". | 12:56 |
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| soren | Fascinating. The first u'get_instance_nw_info' call fails. nova-network seems to never respond. | 13:02 |
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| soren | Aha! | 13:04 |
| soren | 2012-06-12 20:11:12 ERROR nova.rpc.common [-] Returning exception Failed to add interface: sudo: unable to resolve host devstack-1339526523 | 13:05 |
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| markmc | smoser, yeah, the "check" is a +2 - you need another +2 | 13:05 |
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| markmc | smoser, from one of https://launchpad.net/~nova-core/+members#active | 13:06 |
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| smoser | ah. duh. sorry. i was thinking jaypipes +1 hould have counted. | 13:06 |
| smoser | markmc, thanks. | 13:07 |
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| soren | LinuxJedi: Why it would fail to lookup its own hostname... I can't say. But it does. | 13:12 |
| LinuxJedi | soren: that I can probably debug... | 13:13 |
| soren | LinuxJedi: The syslog seems incomplete. | 13:14 |
| soren | LinuxJedi: It seems to not include the stuff from the host? | 13:14 |
| soren | LinuxJedi: There's no mention of cloud-init, for instance. | 13:15 |
| soren | Oh, crap. I need to run. | 13:15 |
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| Vek | mtaylor / jeblair: I note I'm no longer getting email from review.openstack.org telling me when a new patch set has been pushed, neither for new reviews nor for new patch sets to reviews I've already commented on. | 14:11 |
| Vek | I am getting emails when new comments are made, but I'll typically only re-review a patch when I get that "new patch set has been pushed" email, and the lack of it means I don't know when to re-review a patch... | 14:12 |
| Vek | any idea what happened? | 14:12 |
| dprince | danpb: Okay. I just added a libvirt version check: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8474/ | 14:13 |
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| ttx | markmc: ping me when you have 5 min. to discuss Horizon 2012.1.1 | 14:17 |
| markmc | ttx, I don't really have 5 minutes, but I'm thinking I'll set aside a bunch of time tomorrow to figure out 2012.1.1 plans | 14:18 |
| markmc | ttx, we'd prefer to co-ordinate multiple 2012.1.1 releases together, right? | 14:18 |
| ttx | markmc: not necessarily. | 14:18 |
| markmc | ttx, there's been a bunch of stuff go into nova and glance too, at least | 14:18 |
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| markmc | ttx, well, I'd prefer ... but no, it's not absolutely necessary :) | 14:19 |
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| ttx | markmc: I want to keep the agility and not build false expectations that they would be released at the same time | 14:19 |
| ttx | markmc: let's talk about it tomorrow. In the meantime I'll fix the versioning for Horizon 2012.1.1 | 14:20 |
| ttx | (currently builds 2012.1~DATE tarballs, which is NOT good) | 14:20 |
| markmc | ttx, cool | 14:20 |
| zul | sandywalsh: ping one more thing | 14:20 |
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| notmyname | ttx: I don't know the details on the backport. gholt would know more on this. However, if it's a big deal, then 1.5.1 won't help since 1.5.0 was essex | 14:22 |
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| zul | ttx: wait you are release stable/essex tarballs? | 14:22 |
| ttx | zul: we did 2011.3.1, theer is no reason why we shouldn't do 2012.1.1 if that's useful | 14:23 |
| zul | ok | 14:23 |
| ttx | notmyname: doing 1.5.1 is a way to publish the fix. Haven't cornered mtaylor to discuss the possibilities yet. | 14:23 |
| ttx | notmyname: will sync with gholt when I have the info | 14:24 |
| notmyname | But 1.5.1 code won't be in an official openstack release for another 5 months | 14:24 |
| ttx | notmyname: 1.5.0 is not yet in an openstack release either... | 14:25 |
| ttx | notmyname: if the issue applies to 1.4.9 we could issue the fix in a stable/essex branch | 14:25 |
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| notmyname | Ah. My mistake. I was thinking it was Essex. Essex was 1.4.8 | 14:25 |
| ttx | right, 1.4.8 | 14:25 |
| notmyname | I'll blame jet lag. Ya, jet lag. That's it | 14:25 |
| eglynn | jaypipes: if you get a chance, can you give https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7842/ another look? | 14:26 |
| ttx | the issue is either a swift intermediary version issue in 1.5.0... then we could fix it in 1.5.1 | 14:26 |
| ttx | notmyname: or a openstack stable release issue, for which we have the stable/essex branch | 14:26 |
| ttx | notmyname: depending on what the issue affects we could do one or both | 14:26 |
| ttx | notmyname: but want to check with mtaylor first that's the only options | 14:27 |
| notmyname | Ya, I agree. I'll tend towards waiting to have it in 1.5.1. Not sure all the details though | 14:27 |
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| ttx | notmyname: the trick is I don't really want to start having one stable branch per swift release | 14:28 |
| notmyname | And I don't want to have to support that many stable branches either :) | 14:28 |
| ttx | and our tools probably don't support that yet (they support series stable-branches) | 14:28 |
| ttx | notmyname: do you know if the issue affects Essex/1.4.8 | 14:29 |
| ttx | as well? | 14:29 |
| notmyname | It does not. All I know is that it's in code that was added in 1.5.0 | 14:30 |
| notmyname | Essex is unaffected | 14:30 |
| ttx | hmm, then I'd lean towards fixing it in 1.5.1 | 14:30 |
| notmyname | Depends how broken 1.5.0 is | 14:30 |
| jaypipes | eglynn: yuppers | 14:32 |
| ttx | there are other options, like tagging 1.5.1 from a branch that is cut from 1.5.0 and bumping master to 1.5.2... but that's a bit funky. | 14:32 |
| eglynn | jaypipes: thank you sir! | 14:32 |
| Daviey | ttx / markmc: Horizon 2012.1.1 plans? | 14:32 |
| ttx | Daviey: devcamcar has been proposing that at yesterday's meeting. Will forward you both his email. | 14:33 |
| Daviey | ttx: please do.. | 14:34 |
| Daviey | ttx: FWIW, we've just uploaded a full set of stable/essex uploads to precise-proposed, for all projects. | 14:35 |
| ttx | Daviey, markmc: forwarded | 14:35 |
| apevec | ttx, what's this Swift 1.5.0 issue you were just discussing? | 14:35 |
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| ttx | apevec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8467/ -- no bug linked | 14:37 |
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| segfault923 | morning folks, i'm looking to start contributing to nova, can anyone point me to some easy bugs that i can get started with? | 14:38 |
| ttx | segfault923: Bugs tagged with "low-hanging-fruit" are supposed to be easy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit | 14:42 |
| segfault923 | ttx, coolbeans, i'll take a look at those thanks | 14:42 |
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| gholt | ttx: notmyname: It's a bug not a security issue, so a 1.5.1 seems right to me. It is a bug that sucks badly :P (5xx when it shouldn't be) so we had to patch it here at Rackspace. | 15:05 |
| gholt | ttx: I'll make a bug entry for that in just a bit here. | 15:06 |
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| ttx | gholt: awesome. Want to make sure we track that correctly. | 15:06 |
| notmyname | gholt: thanks | 15:07 |
| ttx | gholt/notmyname: plans to speed up 1.5.1 to push the fix for that one ? | 15:07 |
| notmyname | Depends on what else has been merged or is waiting to be merged. I haven't been looking at the reviews this week. I'll take a look now | 15:09 |
| ttx | notmyname: I think the biggest tjing is the python-swiftclient split | 15:10 |
| notmyname | Ya. And it looks like there are some changes that are pretty close to being merged | 15:11 |
| notmyname | ttx: I don't want to do it, for example, this week if it can be helped | 15:12 |
| ttx | notmyname: your call. | 15:12 |
| notmyname | Let's wait until at least next week | 15:14 |
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| gholt | notmyname: ttx: I haven't heard anyone else complaining about the 1.5.0 5xx thing, so I'm guessing we're the first deployers. | 15:15 |
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| gholt | We can always wait and provide the quick patch for those who can't wait. | 15:15 |
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| gholt | It just kinda sucks 1.5.0 has that bug in it [forever!] :P I would love if we actually got a successful production rollout of a version before releasing it. But I'm happy we at least get to run it through our QE first. :) | 15:17 |
| gholt | Kinda chicken-and-egg eh? Prod release? Not before prod release! But anyway... | 15:18 |
| ttx | gholt: the bug will lead to the fix commitid... so prioritizing the bug as critical should give it a bit of exposure | 15:18 |
| jeblair | soren: thanks for that debugging, ping me when you're back | 15:19 |
| ayoung | devstack gurus: running stack is giving an error trying to download the swift client http://fpaste.org/dueQ/ | 15:19 |
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| ayoung | I thought this was because of the latest changes committed, but when I set my repo back to pre-rebase, it still happens. | 15:20 |
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| mtaylor | ayoung: ah, pip vs. distutils. | 15:30 |
| mtaylor | we really need to stop using git urls in all of our projects and use github zipball urls instead | 15:30 |
| ayoung | mtaylor, is there a work around? | 15:30 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: yeah, aren't we broken if we dont | 15:30 |
| mtaylor | turns out there are crazy differences between when the git urls work and when they don't | 15:30 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: like, we can't run setup.py | 15:30 |
| mtaylor | workaround is to pip install the git://github.com/openstack/python-swiftclient.git@dec11f6ec9#egg=python-swiftclient into the virtualenv | 15:31 |
| mtaylor | then setup.py will work | 15:31 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: https://review.openstack.org/8479 | 15:34 |
| Vek | mtaylor / jeblair: I note I'm no longer getting email from review.openstack.org telling me when a new patch set has been pushed, neither for new reviews nor for new patch sets to reviews I've already commented on. | 15:39 |
| Vek | I am getting emails when new comments are made, but I'll typically only re-review a patch when I get that "new patch set has been pushed" email, and the lack of it means I don't know when to re-review a patch... | 15:39 |
| Vek | any idea what happened? | 15:39 |
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| ayoung | mtaylor, but how do I get git://github.com/openstack/python-swiftclient.git@dec11f6ec9#egg=python-swiftclient? | 15:49 |
| ayoung | I have that commit checked out in my local git repo | 15:49 |
| ayoung | ah disregard | 15:51 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: you disappoint | 15:57 |
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| andrewbogott | jkoelker: Little help with the openstack-common test framework? Is it possible to run a single test vs. running the whole suite? | 15:58 |
| andrewbogott | (I get a hang when I run the whole set, so that's not ideal.) | 15:58 |
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| mtaylor | bcwaldon: I do? | 16:00 |
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| mtaylor | bcwaldon: what did I do this time? it's not my fault that pip and distutils use different code bases and different of them are called at different times for different reasons | 16:01 |
| mtaylor | honestly, the distutils/distribute/setuptools/pip situation in python is an embarrasing joke | 16:01 |
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| jk0 | s1rp: mind having another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8476/ pls? | 16:08 |
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| s1rp | jk0: sure thing | 16:10 |
| jkoelker | andrewbogott: i think the tox.ini needs updating to support selecting individual tests | 16:11 |
| jkoelker | andrewbogott: on line 8 change it to : commands = nosetests [] | 16:11 |
| jkoelker | andrewbogott: then you can do : tox tests.unit.test_importutils:ImportUtilsTest | 16:12 |
| jkoelker | andrewbogott: just like you are passing the commands right to nose | 16:12 |
| andrewbogott | jkoelker: That seems to help! I will experiment a bit more... | 16:12 |
| mtaylor | jkoelker: I've been using {posargs} in the other projects instead of [] = any thoughts? | 16:12 |
| andrewbogott | jkoelker: Would you also expect to be able to do something like 'nosetests tests.unit.test_importutils:ImportUtilsTest'? | 16:13 |
| jkoelker | mtaylor: no idea really ;) i just yanked that out of another project i had cloned | 16:13 |
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| jkoelker | i think either works | 16:13 |
| andrewbogott | The latter seems to not set up the pythonpath correctly. | 16:13 |
| andrewbogott | But, I can probably live with just using tox. | 16:13 |
| jkoelker | andrewbogott: it should work, let me try in a new venv | 16:14 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: see my inline comment here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8479/ | 16:14 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: gah | 16:14 |
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| jkoelker | andrewbogott: ah, yes, this is another sympom of bug 951197 | 16:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 951197 in openstack-common "openstack namespace does not play nicely with checkedout repos" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/951197 | 16:19 |
| jkoelker | andrewbogott: run python setup.py develop prior to running nosetests that will make sure that common is defined in the openstack namespace | 16:20 |
| andrewbogott | jkoelker: ok, thanks! | 16:20 |
| andrewbogott | works | 16:21 |
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| jkoelker | yea, worst decision I ever made with os-common was to put it under a namespace package ;) | 16:22 |
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| jeblair | mtaylor: still disappointing. :) | 16:24 |
| mtaylor | wow | 16:26 |
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| mtaylor | ah! setup.py is out of date in glance | 16:27 |
| mtaylor | fixing | 16:28 |
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| andrewbogott | sandywalsh: What do you think about moving nova notifications into openstack-common? | 16:33 |
| andrewbogott | (That is, do you think it would be useful for me to move it?) | 16:34 |
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| winston-d | any nova-core mind help review this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8228/ | 16:39 |
| eglynn | vishy: quick question about an old commit of yours? | 16:41 |
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| eglynn | vishy: I'm wondering about https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/a433dded | 16:43 |
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| eglynn | vishy: was the intention that glance *fully* replaces the direct use of S3 as an image store in the EC2 style? | 16:44 |
| eglynn | vishy: so I'm struggling with the remaining S3 dependency, specifically: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/image/s3.py#L269 | 16:44 |
| eglynn | vishy: seems like a throw-back to me, broken by the fact that the source image is now in glance so the image_location prop and grabbing the S3-style manifest directly no longer makes sense | 16:45 |
| eglynn | vishy: am I missing something? | 16:45 |
| vishy | eglynn: i don't understand the question | 16:45 |
| jaypipes | mtaylor: "because python is a pile of steaming turds". you have SUCH a way with words. :) | 16:45 |
| vishy | eglynn: that code is only there to support registering through the ec2 api | 16:46 |
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| eglynn | vishy: so say we're creating an image from a running instance | 16:47 |
| eglynn | vishy: (via the EC2 API ...) | 16:47 |
| vishy | eglynn: it isn't for that | 16:47 |
| vishy | eglynn: well ok nm continue | 16:47 |
| eglynn | vishy: well it calls on that codepath as things stand | 16:48 |
| jaypipes | eglynn: unfortunately, that code is there because of the way that euca2ools and the EC2 API for images expects things ... for instance, that the manifest part files are stored in an S3 store during uncompressing/decrypting | 16:48 |
| jaypipes | eglynn: and we don't want to store the part files in glance, only the final decmpressed, decrypted image file. | 16:48 |
| vishy | eglynn: the 'standard' way to create an image in ec2 is to upload a bundle to s3 | 16:48 |
| vishy | and then call register_image | 16:48 |
| vishy | eglynn: all that code is to support that one path | 16:49 |
| jaypipes | worst "standard" evar! :) | 16:49 |
| mtaylor | jaypipes: :) | 16:49 |
| eglynn | vishy, jaypipes: ok the gap in my understanding is what happens when its create_image that's called | 16:49 |
| mtaylor | jaypipes: I'm SO FAR past annoyed at the pip/distutils situation | 16:49 |
| jaypipes | mtaylor: lol | 16:49 |
| eglynn | vishy: in that case the source image is in glance | 16:49 |
| vishy | eglynn: no it isn't | 16:49 |
| eglynn | vishy: so going to S3 to grab a manifest is not going to work | 16:49 |
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| reed | chmouel, can you help complete this page? http://wiki.openstack.org/Swift/APIFeatureComparison | 16:50 |
| vishy | eglynn: create image is called with an image_location which is an s3 bucket | 16:50 |
| reed | notmyname, can you help with this page? http://wiki.openstack.org/Swift/APIFeatureComparison | 16:51 |
| vishy | eglynn: * _s3_create ^^ | 16:51 |
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| eglynn | vishy: my reading of the code is that it uses the image_ref prop of the instance the image is being created from | 16:52 |
| eglynn | vishy: which I'd expect to reside in glance | 16:52 |
| harlowja | smoser: legal junk underway, hopefully won't take to long (be nice if once i get this WIP all done, then magically the legal people will be done also, haha) | 16:52 |
| eglynn | vishy: (with the usual glance UUID <--> ami-* ID translation going on ...) | 16:53 |
| vishy | eglynn: I don't know how you're comprehending the code | 16:53 |
| vishy | eglynn: the s3 stuff is only called via the ec2 api | 16:53 |
| vishy | eglynn: and that is not called on an instance | 16:53 |
| vishy | so ? | 16:53 |
| eglynn | vishy: see https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/ec2/cloud.py#L1659 | 16:54 |
| smoser | harlowja, woot. thanks. | 16:54 |
| vishy | eglynn: ah now i see where you are looking | 16:55 |
| eglynn | vishy: then scan to https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/ec2/cloud.py#L1716 | 16:55 |
| vishy | eglynn: I've never used that code tbh and I'm surprised that it works at all | 16:55 |
| eglynn | vishy: it doesn't ;) | 16:55 |
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| eglynn | vishy: (which is why I'm looking at it ...) | 16:55 |
| harlowja | qq, i forget but one of the keystone guys at the summit showed a log rainbow colorizer thingy, does anyone remember the pypi or util for that? | 16:56 |
| eglynn | vishy: so I guess conclusion is that the _register_image code-path is not appropriate in the create_image (from a running instance) case, right? | 16:57 |
| vishy | eglynn: yes, although it looks like that code is specifically to snapshot volumes | 16:57 |
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| vishy | eglynn: i don't see any part of the code that actually snapshots the instance backing file into an image | 16:58 |
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| vishy | eglynn: maybe we need to ask yamahata :) | 16:58 |
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| eglynn | vishy: cool, I will do ... | 16:59 |
| vishy | eglynn: if it were supposed to do that, you would think that it would need to call snapshot instance, wait for the snapshot and then return the id from the new snapshot | 16:59 |
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| sandywalsh | andrewbogott: yeah, I think that's a great idea. It would be nice to standardize those notifications. | 17:00 |
| eglynn | vishy: so here its snapshotting the individual volumes attached to the instance, or? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/ec2/cloud.py#L1685 | 17:00 |
| andrewbogott | sandywalsh: OK. I'm looking at it now... hopefully the notifier code won't turn out to depend on every single other nova module. | 17:01 |
| andrewbogott | I'll probably have to move the logger first. | 17:02 |
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| jaypipes | eglynn: ok, finally getting to your security group refactoring review... sorry for delay | 17:08 |
| eglynn | jaypipes: cool, thx Jay! | 17:08 |
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| vishy | eglynn: right, volumes, but not the instance | 17:14 |
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| jk0 | bcwaldon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8476/ pls :) | 17:16 |
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| bcwaldon | jk0: I'm not sure I understand the reasoning | 17:18 |
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| jk0 | bcwaldon: you commented on the bug... | 17:18 |
| jk0 | and marked it as Triaged | 17:18 |
| bcwaldon | jk0: I see that...hmm | 17:19 |
| jk0 | we don't need that env var because whoever comsumes that client code should/would set their own logging | 17:19 |
| bcwaldon | jk0: I guess it doesnt make sense to set an env var for something like this | 17:19 |
| jk0 | *consumes | 17:19 |
| bcwaldon | jk0: ok, I'm with it | 17:20 |
| bcwaldon | jk0: I'm him | 17:20 |
| bcwaldon | hip! | 17:20 |
| jk0 | thnx! | 17:20 |
| bcwaldon | jk0: any idea when the Piston-assigned bps in glance will start moving along? | 17:22 |
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| jk0 | bcwaldon: sorry, not offhand | 17:25 |
| bcwaldon | jk0: kk | 17:25 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: can you offer a review of this guy -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8360/ | 17:27 |
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| jeblair | bcwaldon: done. I think it's a Good Thing. | 17:30 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: that's basically one of a set of changes clarkb did for a bunch of projects to fix https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/python-glanceclient-docs/ | 17:30 |
| bcwaldon | I'm fine with the fix, I just wanted 2 +1's before I approve it | 17:31 |
| mtaylor | :) | 17:31 |
| mtaylor | yay. me will shut up then | 17:31 |
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| mtaylor | btw - we're down to the only broken post-merge jobs being a few doc building jobs ... I'm so happy | 17:32 |
| bcwaldon | excellent | 17:32 |
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| jgriffith | mtaylor: gerrit question... I "accidentally" approved a draft and it merged, can I do a revertchange to reopen the review? | 17:48 |
| jgriffith | I don't care about the merge so much, just would like to add changes to the review again :) | 17:49 |
| andrewbogott | jkoelker, do you have advice about how to handle flags when moving code from nova to common? | 17:49 |
| mtaylor | jgriffith: you can do revertchange, which will open a new review with a patch that will revert the change | 17:51 |
| mtaylor | jgriffith: you can approve that | 17:51 |
| jgriffith | Great.. thanks! | 17:51 |
| mtaylor | jgriffith: then you can revert _that_ change, and then edit that change as normal | 17:51 |
| mtaylor | :) | 17:51 |
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| jgriffith | mtaylor: Excelleeeent!!! | 17:52 |
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| reed | why can't I find Johannes Erdfelt on http://wiki.openstack.org/Contributors? | 18:02 |
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| * jk0 always suspected jerdfelt wasn't real | 18:06 | |
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| jk0 | check his alias, Danny Tanner | 18:08 |
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| jeblair | Vek: ping | 18:18 |
| jeblair | Vek: first thing, is "New Changes" checked for the projects you want at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/projects | 18:19 |
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| dprince | mtaylor: on the zipball thing. I think my memory was failing me earlier... | 18:30 |
| dprince | mtaylor: I was using Github tarballs for Chef cookbooks a while ago. And I had quite a bit of trouble with those URLs with downtime. | 18:30 |
| mtaylor | dprince: oh, yeah. totally. | 18:31 |
| dprince | mtaylor: What I found was that GitHub git: URL's are almost always up.... but the https:// zipball/tarball URLs were flaky. | 18:31 |
| mtaylor | dprince: github has TERRIBLE uptime from the perspective of automated tools and such | 18:31 |
| mtaylor | dprince: well, we find that even cloning from github fails a surprising amount ... but I totally believe that the zipball urls are flakier | 18:32 |
| dprince | mtaylor: Well. The git:// URL's are rock solid in comparison to the zipball/tarball ones. That was my point. | 18:32 |
| mtaylor | dprince: they are definitely only a short-term solution | 18:32 |
| mtaylor | dprince: the real solution here is to, you know, actually release our client libs properly :) | 18:32 |
| dprince | mtaylor: So I hate to see us step off of the git: ones. But if we need this short term I'm not opposed to it I guess. | 18:32 |
| mtaylor | dprince: purely short term ... omg, if distutils and pip didn't actually work differently with requirements files it would be so great! | 18:32 |
| mtaylor | dprince: I'm hoping to have better solution in place by next week | 18:33 |
| dprince | mtaylor: sure. Anyway. Got my +2. | 18:33 |
| dprince | mtaylor: Brings up another question.... I'm actually pulling source from GitHub right now for SmokeStack. Well I was until I disabled it this week due to this libvirt version thing. | 18:35 |
| * mtaylor sighs | 18:35 | |
| mtaylor | :) | 18:35 |
| dprince | mtaylor: Would you consider directly pulling from Gerrit to provide better uptime? I'm actually not having any issues as is but wanted to ask. | 18:36 |
| mtaylor | we pull source from github for devstack tests as well, actually | 18:36 |
| dprince | mtaylor: well then. Good to know. | 18:37 |
| mtaylor | dprince: I'm looking in to adding a read-only pure-apache url to serve out the git repos on the gerrit server so that one could clone directly from the source without causing a java thread to get spawned (have I mentioned I had java?) | 18:37 |
| mtaylor | dprince: if that works, then cloning from that would probably be more solid, so I'll let you know if we get that | 18:38 |
| dprince | mtaylor: Sure. | 18:38 |
| dprince | mtaylor: Thanks. | 18:38 |
| mtaylor | dprince: any time! | 18:38 |
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| zykes- | jk0: ping | 20:20 |
| jk0 | zykes-: | 20:20 |
| zykes- | jk0: gotten bosh to work ? | 20:21 |
| jk0 | zykes-: ferdy did | 20:21 |
| jk0 | I haven't had a chance to play with it yet this week | 20:21 |
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| jk0 | he posted an update doc yesterday | 20:22 |
| jk0 | *updated | 20:22 |
| zykes- | checking it out | 20:22 |
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| mtaylor | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/8499 | 20:41 |
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| tr3buchet | i can't figure out what is happening with unit tests right now | 20:47 |
| tr3buchet | i run tox | 20:47 |
| tr3buchet | there are a a crapton of failures | 20:47 |
| tr3buchet | and the result is "OK" | 20:47 |
| tr3buchet | and it never tells me anything went wrong | 20:47 |
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| tr3buchet | and i can't see any way to even figure out what the errors were... | 20:47 |
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| mtaylor | tr3buchet: in the 2.6 runner? | 20:50 |
| tr3buchet | mtaylor: correct | 20:50 |
| mtaylor | tr3buchet: that's apparently a bug in unittests aiui, and all of those that show error but don't actually fail SHOULD be showing SKIP | 20:50 |
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| mtaylor | tr3buchet: jkoelker knows more about it - (he was trying to explain it to me yesterday) | 20:50 |
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| tr3buchet | mtaylor: alright, that's a bit weird, i'll poke him. he'll be delighted you threw him under this bus :D | 20:51 |
| mtaylor | tr3buchet: apparently the fix is to migrate to unittest2 I think | 20:51 |
| mtaylor | tr3buchet: yup. he loves it when I do that :) | 20:51 |
| mtaylor | tr3buchet: I was trying to blame it on his openstack.nose_plugin module the other day ... | 20:51 |
| tr3buchet | haha | 20:51 |
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| tr3buchet | mtaylor: just so i'm on the same page, you mean nova needs to use unittest2 right? | 20:53 |
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| mtaylor | tr3buchet: I _think_ | 20:55 |
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| mtaylor | tr3buchet: honestly, I'm parroting right now. jkoelker has the real information | 20:55 |
| tr3buchet | mtaylor: kk, jkoelker is being hassled at the moment | 20:55 |
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| jeblair | Gerrit will be automatically upgraded some time in the next 15 minutes. | 21:25 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: I know I brought this up last time | 21:26 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: but could you consider pushing your upgrades back to something closer to COB | 21:26 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: not that I doubt it will be seamless and perfect in every way :) | 21:26 |
| jeblair | COB is a surprisingly busy time for gerrit. | 21:27 |
| jeblair | right now, it's quiet. :) | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | hmm | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | well fine! | 21:28 |
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| * jeblair tries to distract bcwaldon so he doesn't go approve a bunch of changes. | 21:28 | |
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| mtaylor | hey bcwaldon ! | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: hey mtaylor | 21:28 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: I'm just trying to distract you | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | all of my stuff landed this afternoon already | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | thanks to markwash! | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | so this doesnt affect me | 21:29 |
| mtaylor | hehe | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | carry on | 21:29 |
| mtaylor | and there it goes... | 21:30 |
| mtaylor | and it's back | 21:31 |
| mtaylor | yay! | 21:31 |
| mtaylor | https://review.openstack.org/#/mine/important/ looks so much better now | 21:31 |
| bcwaldon | whew | 21:31 |
| jeblair | you should probably hit the reload button | 21:31 |
| mtaylor | good work clarkb | 21:31 |
| jeblair | what with gerrit being 95% javascript and all | 21:31 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yay! thanks! | 21:31 |
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| mtaylor | yeah - dude. important changes is 1000% more useful | 21:32 |
| clarkb | yaty | 21:32 |
| clarkb | *yay | 21:32 |
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| vishy | jeblair, mtaylor: might want to merge this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8160/ in case https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8069/ merges | 21:41 |
| jeblair | vishy: i've got those both starred so i can watch them... | 21:42 |
| vishy | jeblair: ok, I don't think the ci change will hurt anything if it goes first | 21:42 |
| jeblair | vishy: i was thiking of merging 8160 right after 8069, so i can see if the ansi colorizor would apply to the artifacts | 21:42 |
| jeblair | (i doubt it, but i thought it'd be nice to test) | 21:42 |
| vishy | jeblair: ah ok well would be neat to see :) | 21:42 |
| jeblair | vishy: i should probably, like, leave a comment to that effect in the code review system though, eh? :) | 21:43 |
| vishy | I'm hoping the color logs will inspire people to improve the horrendous logging that we have. | 21:43 |
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| jeblair | vishy: I've installed the colorizer plugin. we just need to change the jobs to start using it (should be easy) | 21:44 |
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| jeblair | bcwaldon: http://paste.openstack.org/show/18518/ | 21:48 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: that mean something to you? | 21:48 |
| jeblair | it seems to be showing up a lot, in both successful and failed devstack-gate builds | 21:48 |
| jeblair | i noticed it in a failed build triggered by mtaylor by a doc change: | 21:48 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: it means go yell at vishy | 21:48 |
| jeblair | https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/5118/ | 21:48 |
| jeblair | vishy: YAAA! | 21:49 |
| vishy | jeblair: gates are running on precise now? | 21:49 |
| vishy | jeblair: this will fix it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8004/ | 21:51 |
| vishy | bcwaldon: approve? ^^ | 21:51 |
| zykes- | jk0: i'm trying it now | 21:54 |
| zykes- | will let you know how it goes | 21:54 |
| jk0 | cool | 21:54 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8497/ ? | 21:54 |
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| zykes- | jk0: been working on a app that i'm gonna demo on CloudFoundry and OpenShift | 21:55 |
| zykes- | @ OpenStack | 21:55 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: I dont like it | 21:55 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: no? | 21:55 |
| * mtaylor is sad face | 21:56 | |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: thats massive! | 21:56 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: 1300 lines of bootstrappy code? | 21:56 |
| bcwaldon | barf | 21:56 |
| bcwaldon | thats bigger than the project! | 21:56 |
| mtaylor | I think most of those lines are in the css files | 21:57 |
| bcwaldon | yes | 21:57 |
| bcwaldon | that doesnt make it better | 21:57 |
| mtaylor | I can remove the css files | 21:57 |
| bcwaldon | haha | 21:57 |
| bcwaldon | forever? | 21:57 |
| mtaylor | sure? I dunno. I don't personally need them | 21:57 |
| bcwaldon | why are they there in the first place? | 21:58 |
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| bcwaldon | i really dont want to write *any* manual docs for python-glanceclient | 21:58 |
| bcwaldon | I would love for it to be all autogenerated | 21:58 |
| mtaylor | yeah, that's what that all is | 21:58 |
| mtaylor | if that's there, they're all auto generated | 21:58 |
| bcwaldon | I'll poke at it at some point | 21:59 |
| mtaylor | ok | 21:59 |
| mtaylor | I'll re-submit with less static files | 21:59 |
| bcwaldon | as long as that doesnt cripplet he docs | 22:00 |
| bcwaldon | I would love to just get the standard pydocs | 22:00 |
| mtaylor | I don't think it should - doesn't look like we have them everywhere | 22:00 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: standard pydocs? you has pointer? | 22:00 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: docs.python.org | 22:00 |
| clarkb | I believe that sphinx gives you some default _static files when you run the build if you dont have them | 22:01 |
| clarkb | there will be a warning about it when you build | 22:01 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: I'm just referring to the standard python docs | 22:01 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: gotcha | 22:02 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: well, the thing is - there's only two projects that don't have sphinx docs right now - glanceclient and quantumclient. everybody else has something | 22:02 |
| ijw | Does anyone deal with libvirt/connection.py much? | 22:02 |
| mtaylor | and you know how I get about special-casing things | 22:02 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: I'm in no way *against* docs | 22:02 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: but I don't like blanket process that inflates my codebase without good reason | 22:03 |
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| mtaylor | that's fair | 22:03 |
| ijw | bcwaldon: docs are hardly 'for no reason', you know. | 22:03 |
| bcwaldon | ijw: I'm not against docs | 22:03 |
| bcwaldon | ijw: I think you're missing some context here - I'm just not ready to accept this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8497/2 without more reasoning | 22:04 |
| ijw | Sorry, relates to me cursing connection.py ;) | 22:04 |
| bcwaldon | ijw: and 1300 lines is ridiculous | 22:04 |
| bcwaldon | ijw: thats my main complaint :) | 22:04 |
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| mtaylor | bcwaldon: updated. it's 300 now | 22:04 |
| jk0 | the only thing you need in that is the conf and rsts, everything else is auto-generated | 22:04 |
| mtaylor | most of which is conf.py | 22:04 |
| jk0 | (well, in _static) | 22:05 |
| jk0 | yeah, that's much better | 22:05 |
| mtaylor | yup. that was my bad | 22:05 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: how much of that review is autogen'd? | 22:06 |
| bcwaldon | the latest patchset | 22:06 |
| annegentle | bcwaldon: ok, whew, because I thought this line of thought was inline with yours for autodoc | 22:06 |
| bcwaldon | nobody panic! | 22:06 |
| ijw | AAAARGH WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE | 22:06 |
| bcwaldon | keep calm | 22:06 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: conf.py is the only thing that's truly boilerplate | 22:06 |
| ijw | *flail* | 22:06 |
| bcwaldon | ijw: hold yourself together! | 22:06 |
| zykes- | 2:p | 22:06 |
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| mtaylor | bcwaldon: the scripts to do the autodoc generation are copied/stolen from nova - but I think I can go back through and re-factor that so that we can remove them from both glanceclient and nova | 22:07 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: can we do anything about the versioning? | 22:07 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: that would be preferred, as long as we can still build the docs within each project | 22:07 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: the version numbers in conf.py? yeah - as soon as I get the new version patches up and going for client libs | 22:08 |
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| bcwaldon | mtaylor:by versioning I mean pasting 2012.2 in conf.py | 22:08 |
| mtaylor | I think we can put that into conf.py too | 22:08 |
| mtaylor | I will work on both of those things | 22:08 |
| jk0 | versioning in the conf? you should be able to import the glance version stuff | 22:08 |
| mtaylor | yeah | 22:08 |
| mtaylor | oh, good point | 22:08 |
| jk0 | https://github.com/jk0/pyhole/blob/master/docs/conf.py <-- that's how I do it in pyhole | 22:08 |
| annegentle | you guys crack me up | 22:08 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: ALSO, couldn't we just minimize conf.py to just the attributes we want to explicitly set? | 22:09 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: most of it is commented out garbage | 22:09 |
| mtaylor | jk0: yup. totally agree | 22:09 |
| bcwaldon | annegentle: watch your mouth, young lady | 22:09 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: you know what, just because I like you, I will do that, and I will get the other thing installable | 22:09 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: to be fair, most of conf.py is _comments_, and some commented out defaults.... :) | 22:09 |
| bcwaldon | bcwaldon: 'other thing installable'? | 22:10 |
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| bcwaldon | jeblair: garbage...comments...same thing | 22:10 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: one does not simply walk into mordor | 22:10 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: the autodoc generation stuff ... a few changes and I'm pretty sure it can be generalized | 22:10 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: we're doing electronic typesetting here, we aren't going to run out of lead type. :) | 22:10 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: MY MEMORY IS MY PRECIOUS | 22:11 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: not true! my laptop ran out of lead earlier today | 22:11 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: cool cool | 22:11 |
| vishy | jeblair: won't be able to see if color works, as the option is incompatible with syslog | 22:11 |
| clarkb | that reminds me. I should check on my new lead | 22:11 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: I've been meaning to get around to cleaning up some of the conf.py crap in the projects for a while ... I will take this as the shove to do so | 22:11 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: ("not with 10,000 letters could you do this") | 22:11 |
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| mtaylor | s/a while/two years/ | 22:11 |
| vishy | jeblair: abandoning the ci change, it will be disabled since ci uses SYLOG=True | 22:12 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: ಠ_ಠ | 22:12 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: thats the second one today | 22:12 |
| jeblair | vishy: fair enough | 22:12 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: I'm thrilled that we're at the point where I actually have time to fix some of these things... | 22:13 |
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| bcwaldon | mtaylor: yeah, this is massive progress | 22:13 |
| jeblair | mtaylor: stop feeling smug. get back to work. | 22:14 |
| annegentle | does anyone have instructions for putting devstack on a usb stick? or an already-made live iso? | 22:14 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: s/work/beer/ | 22:14 |
| ijw | annegentle: I'm sure there's something about that on devstack.org | 22:14 |
| ijw | As to whether anyone's followed the instructions recently... | 22:14 |
| annegentle | ijw: there's Stack-in-a-Box | 22:15 |
| ijw | http://devstack.org/tools/build_usb_boot.sh.html | 22:15 |
| annegentle | and we talked about stack on a stick a while ago (years) | 22:15 |
| annegentle | ijw: whoohoo!!!! | 22:15 |
| annegentle | hm wonder how big a stick I need? | 22:15 |
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| ijw | Well, given the size of the VM I have running I reckon you'd get somewhere with 8GB | 22:16 |
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| annegentle | yeah that's what I was afraid of | 22:17 |
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| ijw | annegentle: given it's a script, you can always start small and work up. But I don't know where it stores its images (whether it co-opts the local HDD or it's all on the USB stick) | 22:30 |
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| ijw | Er, not so much images as root disks, really. | 22:30 |
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| bcwaldon | jeblair: what makes a change 'Important' | 22:43 |
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| jeblair | bcwaldon: Open changes you have watched or starred or been requested to review, less changes whose latest patchset you have already reviewed. | 22:45 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: clarkb wrote it to try to get a useful "to-do" list in gerrit. | 22:45 |
| jeblair | it's a local patch we'll try to upstream, so it's something we can tweak to try to make better. | 22:45 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: hmm, doesnt seem useful for me | 22:45 |
| jeblair | (adding a score that we can hook up to bug priority, etc, is a to-do item, but is a bit more complex) | 22:46 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: my 'reviewable' section is about a hundred long | 22:46 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: is that because of my watched projects? | 22:46 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: most likely. | 22:46 |
| bcwaldon | dang | 22:46 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: is there a class of changes there you'd rather not see? | 22:47 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: most of them :/ | 22:47 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: (if we can't reduce the number of changes there, it's possible it may not be useful until we can score them) | 22:48 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: are you watching projects whose changes you don't intend to review? | 22:48 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: I bet I could just stop 'watch'ing nova | 22:48 |
| bcwaldon | yes | 22:48 |
| jeblair | that would do it. | 22:48 |
| bcwaldon | lemme give it a go | 22:48 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: so consider this experimental; suggestions on how to make it more useful are welcome | 22:49 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ^ | 22:49 |
| bcwaldon | kk | 22:49 |
| bcwaldon | hmm, well I want to keep getting emails about nova | 22:50 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon: a key aspect of that list is that when you do review a change, it moves from "reviewable" to "previously reviewed", in keeping with the "to-list" idea. | 22:50 |
| bcwaldon | but I dont necessarily need to do every review | 22:50 |
| bcwaldon | I can definitely see how this is useful | 22:51 |
| bcwaldon | but its that one fact that kills it | 22:51 |
| clarkb | hmm might be able to add a column to the project watch options | 22:51 |
| jeblair | bcwaldon, clarkb, mtaylor: i wonder if we should consider not overloading watched projects for this... | 22:51 |
| jeblair | or that | 22:51 |
| clarkb | eg add_to_review_list | 22:51 |
| clarkb | then only include those | 22:51 |
| bcwaldon | I just need a way to get email but not have the project show up in Important | 22:51 |
| clarkb | jeblair: initially I wasnt going to include watched projects :) | 22:51 |
| bcwaldon | once that happens, I woill ove this | 22:51 |
| jeblair | clarkb: only review requests? | 22:52 |
| clarkb | jeblair: and starred requests | 22:52 |
| bcwaldon | and reviews with new patchsets that you've commented on? | 22:52 |
| clarkb | bcwaldon: in the mean time you should be able to do something like status:reviewable AND -project:nova | 22:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb: but that means that some action needs to happen (either someone proposing a change needs to add you, or you need to seek it out) | 22:52 |
| bcwaldon | er, that you commented on that now have new patchets | 22:52 |
| clarkb | bcwaldon: yes | 22:52 |
| bcwaldon | ok | 22:53 |
| jeblair | -project:openstack/nova | 22:53 |
| clarkb | status:reviewable will give you that big nasty list then you can trim it down | 22:54 |
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| mikal | Who the what now? What makes a patch "reviewable"? | 23:03 |
| clarkb | mikal: an open change (but not draft or WIP) that you have watched, starred, or been requested to review or have previously reviewed less those whose latest patchset you have reviewed | 23:06 |
| clarkb | with the hope that it will help cut through the clutter and show you what you should be reviewing | 23:07 |
| mikal | Ahhh, so it wont get me "totally random reviews which no one else has looked at yet", which is my core review technique | 23:07 |
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| bcwaldon | mikal: also all reviews for watched projects afaict | 23:29 |
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