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| _cjones_ | mf: Sweet. Will do, if not, it can wait until tomorrow. | 00:00 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: got a minute? | 00:00 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, always | 00:00 |
| bknudson | take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64587/2/keystone/identity/backends/kvs.py | 00:00 |
| morganfainberg | ok | 00:01 |
| bknudson | dolphm has a comment on 100... | 00:01 |
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| bknudson | so we're in the kvs backend, updating user | 00:01 |
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| bknudson | the user dict doesn't have domain_id set. | 00:01 |
| morganfainberg | correct. | 00:01 |
| bknudson | so we don't know what domain they're in. | 00:01 |
| morganfainberg | i thought the user _must_ have a domain_id? | 00:01 |
| morganfainberg | to create the user | 00:02 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: it does not, and I've verified in the debugger. | 00:02 |
| morganfainberg | or it's defaulted to default | 00:02 |
| morganfainberg | "default domain" | 00:02 |
| bknudson | and this is keystone.tests.test_keystoneclient.KcMasterTestCase.test_user_create_update_delete | 00:02 |
| morganfainberg | hm. | 00:02 |
| bknudson | so this is a user coming from client, not a test thing. | 00:02 |
| morganfainberg | ooh | 00:02 |
| morganfainberg | how does SQL handle this? | 00:03 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: so check the caller: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/identity/core.py#n372 | 00:03 |
| bknudson | it does know the domain_id | 00:03 |
| bknudson | but it doesn't pass it on. | 00:03 |
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| morganfainberg | sec | 00:04 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: this is kind of why I was asking you, seems related to what we've seen before. | 00:04 |
| morganfainberg | it is very related | 00:04 |
| morganfainberg | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/identity/backends/sql.py#n31 | 00:04 |
| bknudson | for sql, I'm guessing ID is unique across all domains in the backend so doesn't really care | 00:04 |
| morganfainberg | according to SQL domain_id is _not_ optional | 00:04 |
| bknudson | but the kvs backend is looking up by name. | 00:04 |
| morganfainberg | i'd enforce that in KVS | 00:04 |
| morganfainberg | so you cannot create a user w/o a domain id. | 00:05 |
| morganfainberg | and user_id is globally unique, so you can look it up and get the domain id | 00:05 |
| morganfainberg | lookup by user_name requires a domain_id to do so. | 00:05 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: then the identity manager would have to add domain ID? | 00:05 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: maybe kvs backend needs a lookup of user_id->domain? | 00:05 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, yeah | 00:06 |
| bknudson | user_id->domain_id | 00:06 |
| morganfainberg | that sounds right | 00:06 |
| bknudson | let me look into that. | 00:06 |
| morganfainberg | ldap is not domain aware, and SQL requires domain_id | 00:06 |
| morganfainberg | so i think we need to follow SQL's basic premise in this case (e.g. user_id->domain_id) | 00:06 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: kvs has "user_list" -- I could split that up by domain. | 00:08 |
| morganfainberg | hm. | 00:08 |
| bknudson | the user_id->domain_id lookup would take forever... anything to make kvs more useless. | 00:09 |
| morganfainberg | or make the key the user_id? | 00:09 |
| morganfainberg | in the kvs store | 00:09 |
| morganfainberg | oh | 00:09 |
| morganfainberg | damn it | 00:09 |
| morganfainberg | ... | 00:09 |
| morganfainberg | uhm | 00:09 |
| bknudson | I think it will be self.db.set('user_domain_%s' % user_id, domain_id) | 00:10 |
| morganfainberg | perhaps make a domain set of users in the domain? | 00:10 |
| bknudson | then can get user's domain ID with self.db.get('user_domain_%s' % user_id) | 00:10 |
| morganfainberg | domain = set([user_id, user_id]) | 00:10 |
| morganfainberg | oh that might work as well | 00:10 |
| morganfainberg | yeah, either approach i think would be fine | 00:10 |
| morganfainberg | kvs is pretty useless for identity/assignment though | 00:11 |
| bknudson | I thought you were fixing that? | 00:11 |
| bknudson | keep your users in memcache | 00:11 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i want to convert over to the dogpile backend | 00:12 |
| morganfainberg | but that can occur after I2 | 00:12 |
| morganfainberg | then could use redis.. or a file... or memcache | 00:12 |
| morganfainberg | or whatever | 00:12 |
| morganfainberg | mongo | 00:12 |
| bknudson | sql? | 00:13 |
| morganfainberg | SQL and LDAP i think will always be a separate driver | 00:13 |
| morganfainberg | there are just too many optimisations that can occur outside of a key-value context with them | 00:13 |
| bknudson | mongo db is web scale | 00:13 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, "web scale" heh | 00:13 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs | 00:14 |
| morganfainberg | is that the xtranormal? | 00:14 |
| bknudson | yes | 00:14 |
| morganfainberg | hehehe | 00:14 |
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| Anticimex | bknudson: couldn't your problem above be solved by modifying the SQL query - or is that kept outside of code you can modify? | 00:24 |
| Anticimex | (always good to complicate queries to avoid client round trips) | 00:25 |
| bknudson | Anticimex: this is not using SQL. | 00:25 |
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| * Anticimex has done fair share of pgsql | 00:25 | |
| Anticimex | oh, ok | 00:25 |
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| Anticimex | bknudson: kvs - key value store? | 00:26 |
| bknudson | Anticimex: yes... I think it's just a dict. | 00:27 |
| Anticimex | k | 00:27 |
| bknudson | for testing | 00:27 |
| Anticimex | ah | 00:27 |
| _cjones_ | morganfainberg, you around now for a not so quick q & a? | 00:28 |
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| vahidh | Hi, does anyone know where debug messages of python-cinderclient project are written? | 00:32 |
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| jgriffith | vahidh: You need to run cinderclient with the deubg flag on | 00:38 |
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| jgriffith | vahidh: ie: "cinder --deubg list" | 00:38 |
| vahidh | jgriffith: thanks. I'll try that. | 00:40 |
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| morganfainberg | _cjones_, sortof | 01:03 |
| _cjones_ | morganfainberg, know much about multiple domains? | 01:03 |
| morganfainberg | _cjones_, as in the multiple domain construct in SQL? | 01:04 |
| morganfainberg | or... as in the per-domain-identtity code that is not finished | 01:04 |
| _cjones_ | morganfainberg, I'll try and make it quick. (SQL and its relation to keystone) | 01:04 |
| _cjones_ | morganfainberg, talking with ayoung, he indicated that what i needed was complete. | 01:05 |
| morganfainberg | ok | 01:05 |
| _cjones_ | Scenario is as follows: I have a default domain set up, with a 2nd domain foo. | 01:05 |
| morganfainberg | ok | 01:05 |
| _cjones_ | I have added the 2nd domain to sql as well. | 01:06 |
| _cjones_ | (via keystone) | 01:06 |
| morganfainberg | ok, that makes sense | 01:06 |
| _cjones_ | Now, if I add a new project to the 2nd domain (foo), where would I expect that DB entry to appear? | 01:07 |
| morganfainberg | in the assingment project table | 01:07 |
| _cjones_ | In the default (keystone) sql db, or in my (foo) (keystone) sql db? | 01:07 |
| morganfainberg | wait, you... can't have multiple dbs | 01:07 |
| _cjones_ | What? | 01:07 |
| morganfainberg | for keystone | 01:08 |
| _cjones_ | No? | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | no | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | well. | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | maaaybe a different assignment and identity one? | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | don't think so though | 01:08 |
| _cjones_ | I thought if I added this to my keystone.foo.conf: | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | sorry, i'm confused | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | waht is the architecture you're trying to do? | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | have Keystone {db} and then have a separate DB for the foo domain? | 01:09 |
| _cjones_ | connection = mysql://root:stackdb@W.X.Y.Z/keystone?charset=utf8 | 01:09 |
| ayoung | nope only one db | 01:09 |
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| _cjones_ | Oh. Hmm. | 01:09 |
| ayoung | there is a BP for multiple, but not yet approved | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | even the per-domain-ideneity stuff couldn't really support multiple sql dbs | 01:09 |
| _cjones_ | I really wanted segregated data, so that each domain contained it's own users, groups, and projects. | 01:10 |
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| _cjones_ | "Domain silos" if you will. | 01:10 |
| ayoung | actually, dolphm might have axed the multi DB BP | 01:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think so | 01:11 |
| ayoung | _cjones_, not in different DBs. The end uses don't get access to the RDBMS | 01:11 |
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| _cjones_ | ayoung, understood. | 01:11 |
| _cjones_ | So, multidomain support is in, however, with only the one db. | 01:12 |
| morganfainberg | _cjones_, correct | 01:12 |
| _cjones_ | what about user name collision? | 01:12 |
| _cjones_ | Is there any fear of that? | 01:12 |
| morganfainberg | any name lookup looks up w/ the domain_id | 01:12 |
| morganfainberg | (required) | 01:12 |
| morganfainberg | user_ids are globally unique | 01:12 |
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| _cjones_ | morganfainberg, understood. was more concerned about name, not id. | 01:13 |
| ayoung | _cjones_, nope. but we were discussing that earlier today..userid collision | 01:13 |
| morganfainberg | _cjones_, when it comes to external (or multiple) sources of identity it becomes important to avoid the collision | 01:13 |
| _cjones_ | ayoung, what about userid collision? How would that happen? | 01:14 |
| morganfainberg | _cjones_, today, we only have one source of identity, so no collisions | 01:14 |
| _cjones_ | ayoung, like ldap? | 01:14 |
| ayoung | _cjones_, Federation. Or multi LDAP | 01:14 |
| ayoung | yep | 01:14 |
| _cjones_ | ayoung, read you loud and clear. | 01:14 |
| ayoung | _Lost 3 this is lost 1. Are you lost 2? | 01:14 |
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| _cjones_ | :) | 01:15 |
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| _cjones_ | Thanks guys! I'll get back at it and see what damage I can do. | 01:15 |
| _cjones_ | One more quick one. | 01:15 |
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| _cjones_ | No support, yet, for domains via horizon, correct? | 01:16 |
| morganfainberg | _cjones_, i think there might be some | 01:16 |
| morganfainberg | _cjones_, have not looked recently though at how complete it is | 01:16 |
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| _cjones_ | morganfainberg, thanks. I'll cross that bridge when I get there. | 01:16 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, so, wondering how your V3 controller change and this are going to coexist/conflict https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65428/1 | 01:19 |
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| morganfainberg | blink | 01:20 |
| morganfainberg | i'm not... sure i'm understanding that change | 01:20 |
| morganfainberg | might be a lack of knowing pecan atm | 01:20 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i don't know if it would really impact much | 01:22 |
| morganfainberg | might require lifting a few extra methods up to the v3controller | 01:22 |
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| morganfainberg | and perhaps an @dependency change or two | 01:22 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, OH | 01:24 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i don't think that will have any impact | 01:24 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, it's namespaced to keystone.controllers which is used only in keystone.routers and keystone.service | 01:26 |
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| morganfainberg | my guess is it shouldn't actually conflict with anything | 01:26 |
| morganfainberg | (and if it would have conflicted, it would have conflicted even w/o my change to keystone.common.controllers) | 01:26 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62809/1 what I was thinking is that our current approach to XML/JSON is broken. It should not be two different pipeline components, but something like this: https://github.com/admiyo/keystone/blob/html/keystone/contrib/html/html.py#L32 | 01:47 |
| ayoung | But not sure if that address the discussion you and dolphm were having in it | 01:48 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: completely agree with it being broken - If we move it to WSME then this gets handled for us automatically | 01:48 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, ++ | 01:48 |
| jamielennox | then i guess we would need some way of opting-out of the middleware | 01:48 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, I just was looking at the change that depends on that | 01:49 |
| jamielennox | then that could get deprecated along with the V2 API | 01:49 |
| ayoung | WSME handles X509? | 01:49 |
| ayoung | PEM | 01:49 |
| jamielennox | no | 01:49 |
| jamielennox | but you can add handlers for custom formates | 01:49 |
| jamielennox | i don't think that'd be a WSME thing - more likely a pecan thing | 01:49 |
| jamielennox | means that you could return a raw certificate and have both a PEM and DER handler that just work automatically | 01:50 |
| jamielennox | i know that dolphm disagrees but IMO if the code doesn't work without certain middleware installed - it's not really middleware (or it's not middleware that should be in the paste config file) | 01:50 |
| ayoung | ++ | 01:51 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, and I wnat to be able to throw HTML rendering in there eventually... | 01:51 |
| ayoung | but that is a different battle | 01:51 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: yes, i know :) | 01:51 |
| ayoung | just easier with WSME/Pecan | 01:51 |
| ayoung | so...what to do about that abandonded patch?> | 01:51 |
| jamielennox | the xml rendering one? | 01:52 |
| ayoung | yeha | 01:52 |
| ayoung | yee Ha! | 01:52 |
| ayoung | Yes | 01:52 |
| jamielennox | it's only really a problem because i tend to hit the endpoint with my browser for testing and it has an accept: xml | 01:53 |
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| jamielennox | it's probably a good thing to fix though so i can bring it back | 01:53 |
| jamielennox | i found it though doing the simple cert extension and with that i had gone the opposite route - having routes offload to pecan | 01:54 |
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| jamielennox | which is what made me start looking into if the reverse would be easier | 01:54 |
| jamielennox | so i want to see the results of the pecan patch before i continue with the extension | 01:54 |
| jamielennox | then i can use that one to start figuring out how pecan extensions are loaded | 01:55 |
| jamielennox | offtopic: i though install_venv.py came from oslo? | 01:55 |
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| ayoung | no idea...I've tended to use the run_tests.sh way of setting up the venv, but haven't looked deeper into it | 01:56 |
| jamielennox | i'm pretty sure that depends on the install_venv | 01:56 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, let me know when you want to talk kvs | 01:57 |
| ayoung | now! morganfainberg | 01:57 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hehe ok | 01:57 |
| ayoung | let me swap | 01:57 |
| morganfainberg | sure | 01:57 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60742/15/keystone/token/backends/kvs.py | 01:57 |
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| ayoung | why is this so big? | 01:58 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 01:58 |
| morganfainberg | it's a complete refactor of all kvs to use dogpile for tokens | 01:58 |
| ayoung | is this the default one? Cuz I see the delete behvior calling parent | 01:58 |
| ayoung | so all of the dogpile ones descend from this one | 01:58 |
| morganfainberg | yes | 01:58 |
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| bknudson | even changed the vim line to # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- | 01:58 |
| morganfainberg | it currently implements the in-memory kvs | 01:58 |
| ayoung | line 245 | 01:58 |
| morganfainberg | and the super is to call the abc class | 01:58 |
| morganfainberg | since we implement a base functionality | 01:59 |
| morganfainberg | rather than raise NotImplemented | 01:59 |
| ayoung | how does that move tokens to the revoked list? | 01:59 |
| morganfainberg | huh, wait a sec. | 01:59 |
| ayoung | wait..what? | 02:00 |
| ayoung | delete_tokens...what is that for? Is that the cleanup call? | 02:00 |
| morganfainberg | hold on | 02:00 |
| ayoung | no that is flush | 02:00 |
| morganfainberg | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/token/core.py#n324 | 02:00 |
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| ayoung | betch super calls delete token one at a time | 02:00 |
| morganfainberg | it does the loop and calls .delete_token per token | 02:01 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 02:01 |
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| morganfainberg | welcome to key-value-stores | 02:01 |
| ayoung | OK...cool | 02:01 |
| morganfainberg | i like abcmeta because you can define code on the abstract class, and super call it | 02:01 |
| morganfainberg | you're required to define the method, but if the superclass implements everything you need, why re-implement | 02:01 |
| ayoung | damnit, I am having trrouble coming up with things to object to in patches. bknudson is making me feel incompetent | 02:01 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i know :( | 02:02 |
| morganfainberg | i've been feeling the same way for a while | 02:02 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, if gerrit wouldn't detect "changes" this, imo, qualifies (in reality) as a "new" file | 02:02 |
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| ayoung | still there is a lot here....the internal functions add a lot of code | 02:02 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, there is. | 02:02 |
| morganfainberg | it's because i'm reworking to encompass a lot of what the memcache driver does | 02:03 |
| morganfainberg | remember in a couple patchsets the memcache driver is just a subclass that changes an instance variable and sets one option | 02:03 |
| ayoung | so, you need to eal explicitly with expriation...KVS didn't do that in the past | 02:03 |
| ayoung | yeah | 02:03 |
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| morganfainberg | kvs beforehand said "oh i have access to the in-mem dict, let me muck with things" | 02:03 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, would this look less different if it were changes to the memcached driver instead? | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | it would still be changing a lot of things | 02:04 |
| ayoung | plus you do locking | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | especially some optimisations since we can't do compare-and-set magic | 02:04 |
| ayoung | any chances of dead lock? | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | (in fact, i need to make a fix to havana because that code is so bad) | 02:04 |
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| morganfainberg | the locks (in memcache) auto-expire | 02:05 |
| bknudson | did kvs not handle trusts before? | 02:05 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, kvs did, memcache did it poorly | 02:05 |
| bknudson | this is the only use of CONF. : CONF.trust.enabled | 02:05 |
| morganfainberg | i had to fix an issue oh. probably should be in the commit message | 02:05 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, shh | 02:05 |
| bknudson | ayoung: see, that's how you find problems. | 02:05 |
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| morganfainberg | bug... uhm 1260080 | 02:06 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, I've been through this code a few times. Part of the problem is each time I need to remember all the earlier conversations | 02:06 |
| bknudson | ayoung: I agree at some point you have to hand it off. | 02:06 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, likely this would be less painful as a modification of the memcache driver | 02:06 |
| morganfainberg | unfortunately, this is .. legitimately a single change set. | 02:06 |
| morganfainberg | this one really is doing only one thing, moving kvs to use the dogpile backend for token | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | *cough* token backend | 02:07 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, is memcached changed in an earlier or later patch> | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, later | 02:07 |
| ayoung | OK. | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, there is still the work to fix the non-expiring keys | 02:07 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: you could as well create a new file rather than changing existing | 02:07 |
| bknudson | and then do a rename | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think gerrit still shows it like this | 02:07 |
| bknudson | kvs2 or something | 02:07 |
| ayoung | this is OK | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | oh in two patches? | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i'm happy to do that if you'd like :) | 02:08 |
| ayoung | no | 02:08 |
| morganfainberg | proceedurally i don't mind things like that if it makes it easier to review | 02:08 |
| ayoung | this is OK...so long as we can map to the origianl memcached logic. I'll just do that outside of the patch review | 02:08 |
| bknudson | well, the changes really aren't helpful here. | 02:08 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, aye, it's best to look at it as new code, ignore the green/red parts | 02:08 |
| morganfainberg | assume it's all a nice light-green color | 02:09 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, not a bad comment to put in to other reviewers: compare with the memcached driver | 02:09 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, the biggest change is storing the expiry time in the user-index behind the scenes | 02:09 |
| morganfainberg | i have it open will add now. | 02:09 |
| ayoung | yep | 02:09 |
| ayoung | this looks good. | 02:09 |
| morganfainberg | but that is to avoid the compare-and-set uglyness | 02:09 |
| morganfainberg | that i need to fix in havana | 02:09 |
| morganfainberg | that "keystone uses 100% cpu issue" | 02:10 |
| ayoung | needed? | 02:10 |
| ayoung | is fixed now, right | 02:10 |
| morganfainberg | yeah, if you have high token issuance, cas causes excessive cpu | 02:10 |
| morganfainberg | with this patchset, it should be fixed because we don't do cas | 02:10 |
| bknudson | systems using neutron have high token issuance | 02:10 |
| bknudson | unless they've fixed that. | 02:10 |
| morganfainberg | we don't need to ask the memcache store each time for each token | 02:10 |
| morganfainberg | we just pull things out of the lists if the expiry says to | 02:10 |
| morganfainberg | much much better | 02:11 |
| morganfainberg | for loop > for loop and asking memcache for N items one at a time | 02:11 |
| morganfainberg | and if the cas fails, you have to do that loop again because "things changed" | 02:11 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, don't change it now, but it probably would have been better to A) make the changes to the memcached driver, and then rename it to the KVS driver, with the memcached driver inheriting from it. I'm guessing that was your origianly plan, but decided not to due to the expiring key issue? | 02:11 |
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| ayoung | no CAS either | 02:12 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, actually, the plan was hit kvs first because memcache is actually used. | 02:12 |
| ayoung | that uses the lock now, right> | 02:12 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, correct | 02:12 |
| ayoung | true | 02:12 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, kvs is really only testing | 02:12 |
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| morganfainberg | so, fix kvs, then once we are sure it's good, move memcache to it. | 02:12 |
| ayoung | change the one that is really used and you find the bugs sooner. | 02:12 |
| morganfainberg | next time i'll make it "dogpile_kvs" or some such | 02:12 |
| morganfainberg | except, we don't test the memcache one very well | 02:13 |
| ayoung | yeah, so this is probably better, as it is used in all the unit tests | 02:13 |
| bknudson | do we need a tempest scenario for memcache? | 02:13 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, likely it would be good. but once we move to dogpile the code (except the back end) is all the same | 02:13 |
| morganfainberg | backend = memcache client | 02:14 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, can-o-worms there | 02:14 |
| ayoung | we plkan on using the kvs as the code for multipe bakcends, memcached is just one | 02:14 |
| ayoung | Cassandra is the big other one, as it actually persists | 02:14 |
| morganfainberg | ^ | 02:14 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, at the hackathon i need to discuss some magic code for things like cassandra | 02:14 |
| ayoung | kewl | 02:14 |
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| morganfainberg | but.. that can be Juno specific things (for implementation) | 02:15 |
| morganfainberg | just plant seeds now | 02:15 |
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| morganfainberg | omg, it's next week isn't it! | 02:15 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, also in the commit message i said as much about memcache driver vs. kvs driver | 02:17 |
| ayoung | yeah...I need to make a hotel reservation | 02:17 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i just did at the mariott courtyard | 02:17 |
| morganfainberg | i think i found a couple nights were $89 | 02:17 |
| morganfainberg | and the others were $109 | 02:18 |
| morganfainberg | or so | 02:18 |
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| morganfainberg | (no "group discount", just reail) | 02:18 |
| morganfainberg | retail* | 02:18 |
| ayoung | yeah...I have 2 other RHers coming, and was seeing if we needed a suite or something. GOing to reserve now | 02:18 |
| ayoung | I thought there was a rackspace rate? | 02:18 |
| morganfainberg | might be | 02:18 |
| morganfainberg | but it was like $10/night off some nights. | 02:19 |
| morganfainberg | i didn't bother. | 02:19 |
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| morganfainberg | would have saved $20 for my booking i think | 02:19 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, wow, lots of merging happneded. | 02:19 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah, 99 a night, ask when you check in, or call | 02:28 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah i'd save $20 | 02:28 |
| morganfainberg | mine was all prepaid | 02:28 |
| ayoung | that was $20 worth of beer, dagnabit! | 02:28 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, eh, | 02:29 |
| morganfainberg | i think i spilled more beer than that (sigh, good beer is expensive) this month | 02:29 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, +2ed that patch. If there are only trivial changes, and you get a +2 from another core, feel free to approve | 02:31 |
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| morganfainberg | nod. | 02:32 |
| morganfainberg | will do. | 02:32 |
| morganfainberg | likely i'll be out soon and will need to pickup tomorrow. | 02:32 |
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| rushiagr | jgriffith: wow, the milestone page is sooo good :) | 09:10 |
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| rushiagr | jgriffith: ^^ https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 09:10 |
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| ekarlso | jamielennox: around dude ? | 10:18 |
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| ekarlso | or anyone that knows how it goes with the apiclient stuff | 10:18 |
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| rushiagr2 | ekarlso: a little bit | 10:30 |
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| ekarlso | rushiagr2: is it "stable" to use ? | 10:31 |
| rushiagr2 | ekarlso: are you talking about any specific client? I've worked only on the Cinder one | 10:32 |
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| ekarlso | rushiagr2: I mean the oslo-incubator apiclient code | 10:35 |
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| rushiagr2 | ekarlso: awh. sorry! | 10:35 |
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| jamielennox | ekarlso: just a little - what are you looking for? | 11:01 |
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| florentflament | jammielennox: have you written some doc with dolph about how we could manage the transition towards better endpoints management (allowing users to choose which API version to use)? | 11:08 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: sorry, just having a couple of conversations at once | 11:08 |
| ekarlso | jamielennox: wondering if it's usable for a client :) | 11:09 |
| florentflament | jamielennox: ok, so how can we do to start working in that direction ? | 11:10 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: ok there isn't a doc that has been written up that i know of and there are still some problems with it | 11:10 |
| jamielennox | the main problem is that we have to keep compatability with what we have and that's been a real pain | 11:10 |
| jamielennox | the thought is to that if you provide an unversioned endpoint in the service catalog then we can leave it up to the individual clients to deal with which versions are available | 11:11 |
| florentflament | yes, ideally we should provide a way for a smooth transition | 11:11 |
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| jamielennox | they should be doing some sort of available version checking anyway | 11:11 |
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| jamielennox | ekarlso: i know we've talked about this before :) if what you're looking for is the base managers and resources then you may as well | 11:11 |
| florentflament | Yes, some kind of discovery mechanism, which would have to be implemented in each client | 11:11 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: so i think i can make it work without being done in every client | 11:13 |
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| jamielennox | florentflament: so we've been working towards making a common communication object that all clients would share | 11:14 |
| florentflament | jamielennox: mmh that would ease the transition | 11:14 |
| jamielennox | the point of this is to re-use the tokens and communication parameters (certs etc) amongst all the clients | 11:14 |
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| jamielennox | the basics of this has been done in keystoneclient | 11:14 |
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| jamielennox | the next step will be auth plugins, it's here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60751/ and will mean that we can get rid of nova and the individual client's authentication | 11:15 |
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| ekarlso | jamielennox: I may as well what ? | 11:16 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: and then this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60752/ which asks the auth plugin for the url to use talking to a server | 11:16 |
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| jamielennox | ekarlso: I want to rip out the session basic work but i guess by now i will have to put that into oslo anyway | 11:16 |
| ekarlso | jamielennox: rip it out how ? | 11:17 |
| jamielennox | ekarlso: so there are some auth plugins work in apiclient that i think will be replaced soon | 11:17 |
| florentflament | jamielennox: I don't know much about the auth plugins. I'll have to check that. Thanks for the links | 11:17 |
| florentflament | Is there a way I can contribute to help you ? | 11:18 |
| jamielennox | ekarlso: however what's in base.py with regards to the managers and resources isn't going to change much for now | 11:18 |
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| jamielennox | ekarlso: i think you may as well just use it, yours wont be the only client we will have to change soon | 11:19 |
| jamielennox | ekarlso: which client are you looking for? | 11:19 |
| ekarlso | jamielennox: just looking for common api helpers : | 11:19 |
| ekarlso | other words apiclienjt code | 11:19 |
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| jamielennox | florentflament: ok, so what i'm thinking with that last review - once we have the auth plugin being asked for where the client should talk to we can move all that discovery into the one place | 11:20 |
| jamielennox | if you look at how that last one works what it means will be that a v3 nova client will only need to say session.get('/path/to', service='compute', version='v3') | 11:21 |
| jamielennox | ekarlso: so an established client? | 11:21 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: so no discovery required for the nova client | 11:22 |
| florentflament | jamielennox: Sounds good | 11:22 |
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| jamielennox | so at least we can then handle the service catalog and talking to an unversioned endpoint and finding out what is available from one centralized place (that also knows how to use the service catalog) | 11:23 |
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| jamielennox | florentflament: so the first thing will be the auth plugins | 11:24 |
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| jamielennox | unfortunately this is a little bit of longer term planning (though i'm hoping for the majority for icehouse) | 11:25 |
| florentflament | jamielennox: I agree with this approach. I'll have to have a look at this auth plugin to go further | 11:25 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: it's mostly based around the auth plugin stuff from nova if you want to look there | 11:25 |
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| jamielennox | it doesn't need to be compatible because it's a new way of doing things | 11:25 |
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| jamielennox | florentflament: it will be good to have someone else working in this space | 11:26 |
| florentflament | jamielennox: Mmh, haven't seen nova's auth plugin neither. I may look there too | 11:26 |
| jamielennox | the auth plugin review can be a little confusing because most of that review is figuring out how we can hack the existing code into the new method | 11:26 |
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| jamielennox | the problem with working client side is that we aren't allowed to break compatability at all | 11:28 |
| jamielennox | and there is a lot of crap code that really needs to be ripped out | 11:28 |
| florentflament | jamielennox: sure | 11:28 |
| florentflament | Anyway, if going towards the auth plugin, each client will have to be updated to use the plugin. | 11:29 |
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| florentflament | Maybe we can do a transition in 2 steps: | 11:30 |
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| florentflament | First, by maintaining current version API endpoints, and updating clients to use the auth pluging - that way compatibility will be kept during the transition | 11:31 |
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| florentflament | Second, once every client use the auth plugin, just update the plugin so that it can use unversionned API endpoints | 11:31 |
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| florentflament | jamielennox: Does it sound reasonable ? | 11:32 |
| jamielennox | florent yes and no | 11:32 |
| jamielennox | hmm didn't press tab there | 11:32 |
| florentflament | ;) | 11:32 |
| jamielennox | each client won't need to support the auth token but they will need to support the session object | 11:32 |
| jamielennox | but it's more or less the same problem | 11:33 |
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| jamielennox | florentflament: from most of what i've seen keystone is the main service really trying to push to a new api version | 11:33 |
| jamielennox | i know there are new ones coming but is there anyone else really wanting it now? | 11:34 |
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| florentflament | jamielennox, don't know much about other project's api versions, but clearly the identity v3 API provides many very interesting features | 11:36 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: yep, we have the issue for the time being at least that auth_token (the token verification middleware) requires the v2 api being up | 11:36 |
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| jamielennox | florentflament: are you looking to use the API or hack around it in your own project? | 11:37 |
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| florentflament | We are thinking about using the v3 API, mostly to benefit from the domain feature, in a near future. | 11:39 |
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| florentflament | jamielennox, so I understand that the auth_token requiring the v2 api may be an issue. | 11:41 |
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| jamielennox | florentflament: so you are always able to just run the V3 client directly and it will work just fine | 11:43 |
| jamielennox | it just requires knowing the url where it will be | 11:43 |
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| florentflament | jamielennox, still the v3 client gets its admin endpoint from the catalog | 11:45 |
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| jamielennox | oh right, yea forgot about that - getting late here | 11:46 |
| jamielennox | so if you set client.management_url then it will override what you get from the service catalog | 11:47 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, BTW, i'm not mistaking the distinction between admin and public endpoint doesn't make much sense with the v3 API. So maybe the client doesn't need to get its endpoint from the catalog | 11:47 |
| jamielennox | its not a good long term solution, but there are ways of getting around it for the time being | 11:47 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: yea, we're trying to ditch the concept of admin endpoints altogether | 11:48 |
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| jamielennox | keystone is the only one that uses it and it was something that was left around from the v2 api | 11:48 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, True that there are ways of getting around, but I would prefer not too ; ) | 11:48 |
| jamielennox | for V3 admin/public is the sam e | 11:48 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: yep i understand | 11:49 |
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| florentflament | jamielennox, so a way to deal with the v2/v3 issue (at least in keystoneclient) would be to not use the catalog since the auth url is already provided and can be used both as public and admin endpoint ? | 11:50 |
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| florentflament | don't know if this is the best way to go | 11:52 |
| jamielennox | somewhat, we're trying to keep using the catalog endpoints - there are times like if you have a different endpoint for a project or domain you might want to change that | 11:52 |
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| jamielennox | florentflament: nobody does that yet | 11:52 |
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| florentflament | jamielennox, using the catalog endpoints seems a better approach | 11:55 |
| florentflament | (in the long run) | 11:55 |
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| jamielennox | yep | 11:56 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, so there's no obvious solution right now. | 11:56 |
| jamielennox | no :( | 11:56 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, in the end I like my approach there ; ) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64834/ | 11:56 |
| jamielennox | you can make certain situations work by hacking it in | 11:56 |
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| jamielennox | that's why i never said no - it's not good for long term but it might save some problems for certain people | 11:57 |
| jamielennox | though you would have to hard code catalog entries so it's not that much better | 11:57 |
| jamielennox | (you can do the same thing by just asking the service catalog for that name) | 11:58 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, In the mean time, I'll have a look at the auth plugin. And try and propose better long term solutions. | 11:58 |
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| jamielennox | dolph (me too) aren't a fan of adding things that will have to be supported later - but i'm not sure if that one is something we don't mind supporting anyway | 11:58 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, Yes but anyway we have to fill endpoints in the catalog | 11:58 |
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| florentflament | jamespage, maybe I misunderstood .. Where would I to hardcode catalog entries ? | 11:59 |
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| florentflament | jamielennox, look at chmouel comment, I think that anyway the patch may be useful | 12:00 |
| jamielennox | you would need to add your identiyv3 and then create the client with the right endpoint name | 12:01 |
| jamielennox | so it would be a very solution endpoint implementation | 12:01 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, I was thinking about adding a --service_type option to the CLI client, that would allow the user to specify the name of the service type | 12:01 |
| jamielennox | so the CLI is v2 only | 12:02 |
| jamielennox | we aren't supporting v3 by CLI | 12:02 |
| jamielennox | it is moving towards openstack-client | 12:02 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, python-openstackclient begins to support API v3 | 12:02 |
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| florentflament | jamielennox, that's were I was hoping to add the option | 12:03 |
| florentflament | s/were/where/ | 12:03 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: oh, ok - run it by dtroyer and co there as well to see if they are ok with supporting that | 12:03 |
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| jamielennox | again if they are willing to support it there they really don't need our help | 12:04 |
| jamielennox | but it would be a good reason to have it added to the client | 12:04 |
| jamielennox | good reason/stronger incentive | 12:05 |
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| florentflament | Well, the openstack-client uses the keystoneclient library | 12:05 |
| jamielennox | it does, it uses a bunch of them - and i think it has hacks around most of them to get them to work correctly | 12:05 |
| florentflament | So to make it work on openstackclient, the feature has to be added to the keystoneclient library | 12:05 |
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| florentflament | Well, I was also thinking about having Horizon working with the Identity v3 API ; ) | 12:06 |
| florentflament | as a next step ... | 12:06 |
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| jamielennox | hmm, yea i can see how you could add i there that way... | 12:08 |
| jamielennox | i don't know - it's not a good long term strategy and i don't know if it's a wise thing to promote because people will jump on something like that | 12:08 |
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| jamielennox | but if you can clear the idea with dolphm then that's really all you need | 12:09 |
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| jamielennox | (it actually may become easier to support a service_type option with session object anyway) | 12:09 |
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| florentflament | jamielennox, ; ) I've seen some patches about session objects | 12:11 |
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| jamielennox | florentflament: anyway i'm out for the night, have a chat to dolphm (west coast US) and try to convince him, it won't affect my plans at all i think and i can see your reasoning | 12:12 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, ok I'll try and catch dolphm to talk about that stuff | 12:12 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, thanks for the info | 12:13 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, I'm gmt+1 | 12:13 |
| jamielennox | florentflament: any time | 12:13 |
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| jamielennox | gmt+10 so this time is unusual for me | 12:13 |
| florentflament | jamielennox, ok .. I'll manage to find reasonable hours to talk to dolphm and you .. | 12:14 |
| jamielennox | heh, yep they just won't overlap | 12:14 |
| florentflament | ;) | 12:15 |
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| akrivoka | hmm, nova and cinder are giving me different info on availability zones | 12:41 |
| akrivoka | http://paste.openstack.org/show/60874/ | 12:41 |
| akrivoka | is this expected? | 12:41 |
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| antigluk | I have some strange issue, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65665/ on Zuul status is successfully checked bug no +1 | 13:06 |
| antigluk | and recheck doesn't work | 13:06 |
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| dolphm | florentflament: jamielennox: o/ | 13:14 |
| florentflament | dolphm, hi | 13:14 |
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| florentflament | dolphm, I think jamielennox is sleeping | 13:15 |
| dolphm | yeah, i'm catching up on the conversation | 13:16 |
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| florentflament | dolphm, ok | 13:17 |
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| antigluk | nevermind. all works | 13:18 |
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| dolphm | florentflament: alright, i'm caught up, but lost on what exactly you wanted to ask me | 13:18 |
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| dolphm | florentflament: or wanted to convince me of? | 13:18 |
| florentflament | dolphm, ok ... basically I wanted to convince you that the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64834/ wasn't bad | 13:19 |
| dolphm | florentflament: the whole thing or just a slice of it? | 13:20 |
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| florentflament | dolphm, I discussed with jamielennox about the auth plugin that would allow better endpoints management. | 13:21 |
| dolphm | florentflament: full stop- do not version the service type. | 13:22 |
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| dolphm | florentflament: IMO other projects have made a terrible UX choice in adopting a bunch of versioned service types. unfortunately, keystone should have been the first project to lead with a better solution but we fell behind on that front when versioning our own api. we need to provide a better solution, not adopt the same hack | 13:22 |
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| dolphm | florentflament: i haven't done a full review of your patch, so if there's something worth pulling out -- i'd be interested | 13:23 |
| dolphm | but end users should not be specifying service types that their client should be looking for. the entire goal of service types is to facilitate automated discovery | 13:24 |
| florentflament | Well. I understand. I won't advocate for versioned service type. I'll try and help jamielennox in supporting unversionned service types. | 13:24 |
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| florentflament | However, the patch only adds an argument the Client constructor | 13:25 |
| florentflament | allowing to specify the name of the service type (versus harcoded 'identity' name) | 13:26 |
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| florentflament | dolphm, somehow there is nothing wrong in letting the user set the names of his services. | 13:27 |
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| dolphm | florentflament: right, that's the other half of my objection-- is not a "name" at all | 13:28 |
| dolphm | it's not user-defined | 13:28 |
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| dolphm | florentflament: your deployment is *broken* if you use an unexpected service type, and you shouldn't be putting the burden on your users to fix it | 13:31 |
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| florentflament | dolphm, ok I give up. We shall keep hardcoded service types | 13:32 |
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| florentflament | dolphm, I understand. I'll look at how I can help jamielennox in managing different versions of service APIs. | 13:34 |
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| ayoung | kwss, Federationg things are looking good. Anything you are stuck on? | 14:45 |
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| kwss | ayoung: not right now, just coding up the changes to my plugin at the moment | 14:46 |
| ayoung | kwss, cool. JUst checking | 14:46 |
| kwss | ayoung, thanks :) | 14:46 |
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| marekd | kwss: did you chck the libs to be used instead of pysaml ? | 15:09 |
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| kwss | marekd, I'm using pyxmlsec in my latest implementation but I'll have to double check if it has any other dependencies | 15:11 |
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| marekd | kwss: but that's just for the XML, right? | 15:12 |
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| kwss | marekd, pyxmlsec does the signature verification, libxml2 is used to parse the XML | 15:14 |
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| marekd | kwss: so, in other words you are going to build SAML assertions by yourself and not depend on libraries like pysaml. | 15:16 |
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| kwss | marekd, yes, but I only build authnrequests, the authn/attribute assertions are assumed to be passed to the plugin by the client | 15:17 |
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| marekd | kwss: so you trust the client passes valid SAML response, and the only thing you do is check it's signature. | 15:18 |
| marekd | so at least we know it was issued by a trusted IDP. | 15:19 |
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| kwss | marekd, yes, but after the attributes are extracted they are verified according to the issuing/mapping rules as well | 15:20 |
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| marekd | you are talking about mapping engine now (attributes -> keystone groups), or something else? | 15:22 |
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| kwss | marekd, the mapping is part of it, but we'd ideally like to have another stage of verification which checks that the idp is trusted to issue the given attributes | 15:24 |
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| marekd | kwss: there was one proposal from David about that, I remember now. | 15:25 |
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| kwss | yea, I've got a simple file based issuing policy class in my plugin but we'd like to add an API for it | 15:26 |
| marekd | kwss: i don't know that well SAML, but does the signature mean also guarantess that no values were changed (mitm attack)? | 15:26 |
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| kwss | marekd, yea, the digest value of the signature can prove that the assertion is unchanged | 15:27 |
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| marekd | kwss: ok, no more questions. | 15:27 |
| kwss | marekd, ok, feel free to buzz me again if any more pop up :) | 15:28 |
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| rpodolyaka | bnemec: ping | 15:35 |
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| bnemec | rpodolyaka: ack | 15:37 |
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| rpodolyaka | bnemec: hey! May I ask to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63782/ when you have a free minute? it's kind of a blocker for oslo.db | 15:37 |
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| bnemec | rpodolyaka: Sure, I'll take a look | 15:39 |
| rpodolyaka | bnemec: thanks a lot! | 15:39 |
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| stevemar | marekd ping | 15:52 |
| marekd | stevemar: hey | 15:52 |
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| stevemar | marekd, i missed your ping last night, i think you were asking about reviewing my patches | 15:53 |
| marekd | stevemar: no problem | 15:53 |
| stevemar | marekd, if you could, please do :D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60424/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59848/ | 15:53 |
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| marekd | stevemar: so basically this is the lateset version of the mapping engine, or just a rebase so it also contains IdP CRUD code? | 15:54 |
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| stevemar | just a rebase | 15:55 |
| stevemar | the engine will be in another patch | 15:55 |
| chmouel | bugsduggan: ping | 15:55 |
| stevemar | different patch, not a new one | 15:55 |
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| marekd | stevemar: this what i was asking about :-) cause didn't know whether you are almost ready to upload new code and my comments would not be relevant. | 15:56 |
| stevemar | marekd, ... the mapping engine will be in another change set, that will depend on this one | 15:56 |
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| stevemar | don't wait, just comment :D | 15:56 |
| marekd | stevemar: ok | 15:56 |
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| bugsduggan | chmouel: pong | 16:04 |
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| chmouel | bugsduggan: hello, | 16:04 |
| bugsduggan | chmouel: hi | 16:05 |
| ayoung | chmouel, so...I see you are taking an interest in the SSL patch, and I was wondering if you could help drive Swift toward using the requests library. | 16:05 |
| chmouel | bugsduggan: I have updated the reviews directly since I have logged a feature request on requests | 16:05 |
| bugsduggan | chmouel: thanks, do you still need me to link that PDF for the requests folks? | 16:06 |
| chmouel | ayoung: yep, down the line i think everybody would be happy with request if we can have this implemented https://github.com/kennethreitz/requests/issues/1853 | 16:06 |
| ayoung | chmouel, looking | 16:06 |
| chmouel | bugsduggan: that wold be good if you can link it in that review, I am looking at the code and it does not seem too hard to add it | 16:06 |
| bugsduggan | chmouel: will do | 16:06 |
| chmouel | but stepping in a non openstack project is weird these days :) | 16:07 |
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| bugsduggan | chmouel: I have a vague recollection of looking into requests before and finding that the library its relying on (urllib2 iirc) doesn't have the ability to turn SSL compression off either, hence the decision to use raw(ish) openssl stuff | 16:07 |
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| chmouel | bugsduggan: yeah this may be have to be done inside urllib3 | 16:09 |
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| bugsduggan | chmouel: yes, I backed off at that point as it looked like it might take a while to land in urllib3 | 16:10 |
| chmouel | bugsduggan: i.e: here https://github.com/shazow/urllib3/blob/master/urllib3/util.py#L610 | 16:10 |
| chmouel | bugsduggan: why? seems like they have updates like three days ago | 16:11 |
| ayoung | bugsduggan, does that mean we need to modify both librarires? urllib to support the option, and requests to pass it on through? | 16:11 |
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| bugsduggan | chmouel: ah, they didn't last time I checked (although in fairness that was a long time ago now) | 16:11 |
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| bugsduggan | ayoung: I think that is the RightThing™ to do, yes | 16:12 |
| chmouel | ayoung, bugsduggan: it would seem like it | 16:12 |
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| chmouel | bugsduggan: is it yours? https://github.com/shazow/urllib3/pull/309 | 16:12 |
| chmouel | bugsduggan: well anyway the dude sent patch like 5 hours ago | 16:13 |
| chmouel | hooray for the timing 8-) | 16:13 |
| bugsduggan | chmouel: no, although that looks like it might save us all a lot of headaches! | 16:13 |
| chmouel | bugsduggan: yeah :) | 16:13 |
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| bugsduggan | chmouel: (fyi, I'm bugsduggan on github) | 16:13 |
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| tristanC | bugsduggan: hello! | 16:15 |
| bugsduggan | tristanC: hi | 16:15 |
| sileht | markmc, hi | 16:15 |
| tristanC | bugsduggan: chmouel: ok, but then, how long will it takes for request to have the required feature ? | 16:16 |
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| tristanC | bugsduggan: maybe we can premptively switch to request module before it allow compression disabling | 16:16 |
| chmouel | tristanC: may take a bit of a while ideally if we can have this review passing properly to have the security folks appeased it would be great working in the meantime on the requests/urllib3 addition | 16:17 |
| markmc | sileht, hey | 16:17 |
| sileht | markmc, did you find some times to take a look into the notification subscriber reviews ? | 16:17 |
| markmc | sileht, I'm just catching up on things today, hoping to get back to oslo.messaging tomorrow | 16:17 |
| sileht | markmc, cool, good news :) | 16:18 |
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| tristanC | chmouel: i agree we should fix this issue as soon as possible | 16:20 |
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| tristanC | bugsduggan: if you have some time, we should share our test setting... maybe I can help you reproduce the issue more easily | 16:26 |
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| bugsduggan | tristanC: that would be great, I'm having trouble replicating what you guys are seeing at the moment | 16:28 |
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| david-lyle | dolphm: ping | 16:33 |
| dolphm | david-lyle: pong (but in a meeting) | 16:33 |
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| david-lyle | dolphm: looking at your project update slides (missed the talk) I saw deprecating the v2 api in i-2 as a possibility | 16:34 |
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| david-lyle | is that correct? | 16:34 |
| dolphm | david-lyle: yes, that's done | 16:35 |
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| david-lyle | dolphm: what's the planned timeframe for obsolescence? | 16:36 |
| david-lyle | or tbd | 16:36 |
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| ijw | fungi: ping | 17:50 |
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| fungi | ijw: hi there | 17:52 |
| ijw | fungi: I think in certain twisty situations you could probably trigger that ipv6 issue, but you may require a warped mind | 17:52 |
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| ijw | Specifically, any hypervisor that isn't libvirt, and ipv6 support turned off in Openstack | 17:53 |
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| fungi | ijw: thanks | 17:55 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, ping | 18:01 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg hola | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, looking for a quick pair of eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65377/ | 18:02 |
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| morganfainberg | super simple cleanup stuff. | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | but don't want it to get lost. | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | if its worth splitting into multiple patches i can do that today | 18:03 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg - yeah its a bunch of random stuff :) | 18:06 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg but very trivial | 18:06 |
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| stevemar | does it need a rebase? | 18:07 |
| morganfainberg | it was actually meant to be additions to the business logic patchset | 18:07 |
| stevemar | last update as on the 7th | 18:07 |
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| morganfainberg | but that one was approved before i could upload a new one | 18:07 |
| morganfainberg | nah, it should not require a rebase | 18:07 |
| morganfainberg | it's parent was my assignment first class one | 18:07 |
| morganfainberg | the one that removes the disable user logic from delete_domain | 18:08 |
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| stevemar | approved | 18:08 |
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| stevemar | yay | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | cool | 18:08 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, I'm super happy that code is all in now. | 18:08 |
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| morganfainberg | so much cleanup in Icehouse for keystone so far | 18:08 |
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| stevemar | cleanup is good | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | yes. | 18:09 |
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| morganfainberg | if the rest of the cleanup gets done, i think working on Keystone in Juno is going to start becoming easier | 18:09 |
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| morganfainberg | generally speaking, things look better and better | 18:10 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, also, OMG merge rebase craziness | 18:13 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, ugh i know | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, sorry :( | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | a lot of that is my fault | 18:13 |
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| morganfainberg | the assignment first class + deletion logic changes touched a ton of things | 18:14 |
| morganfainberg | oh my, look at the time | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | i need to head into the office! | 18:15 |
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| morganfainberg | uhm... be back in a few | 18:15 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, work from home day | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, work from bed? :P nah, need to chat w/ people @ office | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | and... i'm lacking good quality caffination at home | 18:16 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, and we're back to normal typing... all the pizza i was eating is done | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, and i _might_ be a coffee snob | 18:17 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, i know full well that you are ^_- | 18:17 |
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| needscoffee | stevemar, i know | 18:18 |
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| ayoung | *might*? | 18:23 |
| needscoffee | ayoung, lol | 18:24 |
| ayoung | any Nova devs: can one user view another user's keypairs? | 18:25 |
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| needscoffee | ayoung, the ssh keypairs? | 18:25 |
| ayoung | needscoffee, yeah | 18:25 |
| needscoffee | ayoung, i believe so, since iirc you can select a keypair. | 18:25 |
| needscoffee | ayoung, but... i might be confusing it with aws | 18:26 |
| ayoung | needscoffee, I can only seem to see my own on our internal OS system | 18:26 |
| needscoffee | i'll look once i'm in the office if you don't have an aswer (have a dev system setup there) | 18:26 |
| needscoffee | answer before i'm there | 18:26 |
| ayoung | needscoffee, I'll find out | 18:26 |
| needscoffee | k | 18:26 |
| needscoffee | yeah, i might be confusing it w/ AWS. | 18:26 |
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| ayoung | russellb, do you know if it is possible for one user to see another users keypairs in Nova? If I want to create a vm, and have another team member be able to log in to it, what is the usual approach? Manual Keypair management, or is there some way to use the Nova keypairs? | 18:40 |
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| russellb | ayoung: keypairs in nova are owned by individual users | 18:43 |
| russellb | so, you can only see your own | 18:43 |
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| russellb | also, nova only lets you specify a single key | 18:43 |
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| russellb | so i guess you'd get it set up with 1 automatically, and add the rest some other way | 18:43 |
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| russellb | whether that's custom user data stuff to cloud init, or some other means | 18:44 |
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| russellb | puppet, chef, etc | 18:44 |
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| ayoung | russellb, that is what I thought. Would it make sense to do something like expose some keypairs per (user/project) and then all members of the project could view them and, potenaitlly add them to an image? | 18:45 |
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| russellb | yeah, might make sense to expose a keypair to a whole project instead of just a user | 18:45 |
| russellb | just not supported right now AFAIK | 18:45 |
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| russellb | also i'm not sure if nova is the right long term place for storing these keys anyway | 18:46 |
| russellb | just there for historical reasons | 18:46 |
| ayoung | right, just that Nova needs to be aware of them regardless of where they are stored | 18:46 |
| russellb | yeah | 18:46 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, is the Credentials API the appropriate replacement for having KeyPairs directly in Nova? Should Nova query Keystone for the Keypairs for a user? | 19:26 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: had a couple questions for you on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63570/ if you have a moment. thx in advance! | 19:27 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, lemme pull that up | 19:28 |
| jaypipes | cheers man | 19:28 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, fire 'way | 19:28 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: FYI, I def think the credentials API is the perfect place for keypair management. | 19:28 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: questions are in the review inline :) | 19:28 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, so..if we use the cred api, should keys be exposer per project? | 19:28 |
| ayoung | exposed | 19:28 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: per project, yes. | 19:29 |
| ayoung | ie: I want everyone in my "IdM" project to be able to inject my keys into VMs that they spin up? | 19:29 |
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| ayoung | So we would need to be able to query credential based on some project association | 19:29 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: yes. | 19:30 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: GET /$tenant/keypairs | 19:30 |
| ayoung | $project dude! | 19:30 |
| jaypipes | sorry, $project :) old habits die hard... | 19:30 |
| ayoung | heheh | 19:30 |
| jaypipes | :) | 19:30 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, your comment on the review is correct | 19:31 |
| ayoung | the sql upgrade tests you point out are the right idea | 19:31 |
| ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/tests/test_sql_upgrade.py#L609 | 19:31 |
| jaypipes | k, great. just wanted to verify with you before I went further.. | 19:31 |
| ayoung | yous can be pretty minimalistic, just confirm the column names after upgrade | 19:31 |
| ayoung | sorry, 'yous' should read 'youses' | 19:32 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: I got yous. | 19:32 |
| ayoung | Wikked Awesome | 19:32 |
| jaypipes | lol. | 19:32 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: on the other question? | 19:32 |
| ayoung | looking now | 19:32 |
| jaypipes | kk | 19:32 |
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| ayoung | the nesting thing was answered by you in IRC: we don't query by region yet. Addthe SQL tests and this is good by me | 19:33 |
| jaypipes | ok dokey, will do. many thx! | 19:34 |
| ayoung | be nice to put this one to bed | 19:34 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: yup. more patches related to regions will build on it (like how to deal with the endpoint.region mappings that already exist in a deploy) | 19:34 |
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| ayoung | jaypipes, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/project-scoped-credentials | 19:44 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: ++ | 19:45 |
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| ayoung | jaypipes, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/credentials-from-keystone | 19:53 |
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| morganfainberg | chmouel, ping | 19:56 |
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| morganfainberg | chmouel, i know you're not US time, but... wanted to bug you about a devstack review if you have a moment | 19:56 |
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| morganfainberg | chmouel, and i se you responding to emails every now and again ;) | 19:57 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: "Nova only has maintains a store" :) | 20:02 |
| ayoung | Did I write that? | 20:02 |
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| jaypipes | yup :) | 20:02 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: lmao. | 20:02 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: very Yoda-esque. | 20:03 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, glad I am here to entertain you. | 20:03 |
| jaypipes | :) | 20:03 |
| ayoung | Joe Pesci style | 20:03 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, what no nick change for that? | 20:03 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, anything else you need from me blocking the revocation event stuff (tokens or what have you)? | 20:04 |
| morganfainberg | tommy-devito, before i start working on memcache, hmac/encrypt, etc for it | 20:04 |
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| morganfainberg | or other things, want to ensure i'm not holding you up | 20:05 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, nope | 20:05 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ok good. | 20:05 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, cause, revocation events = win | 20:05 |
| ekarlso | horizon folks here ? | 20:05 |
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| ayoung | no pressure on nothin | 20:05 |
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| morganfainberg | phsaw, | 20:05 |
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| morganfainberg | you got that | 20:05 |
| morganfainberg | no problem. | 20:05 |
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| KataiKou | Do we have the draft of the Installation Guide for Icehouse posted anywhere? | 20:46 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, when do you fly into SAT? next week? | 21:42 |
| morganfainberg | of course... he logs out just as i ask a question | 21:43 |
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| paulczar | I made a srewup with a review and merged in some changes from head with my updates … is there a way to nuke out a specific patch set from gerrit ? | 21:47 |
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| morganfainberg | paulczar, in waht way the whole review? or just a single item? | 21:57 |
| morganfainberg | paulczar, if you just push a "new" fixed change over the top, the latest patchset in a review wins | 21:58 |
| paulczar | morganfainberg: cool, that's what I was planning on doing … just didn't want to start pushing more bad review on top of bad reviews if that wasn't the right way to go | 21:58 |
| morganfainberg | in some cases with drafts you can delete patchsets but... i don't remember the specific rules gerrit applies to that. | 21:58 |
| morganfainberg | paulczar, we've all done it :) | 21:59 |
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| morganfainberg | paulczar, it happens to the best of us. don't worry about it too much. heck i've accidently pushed a patchset i forgot to fix a merge conflict in a few times | 22:00 |
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| morganfainberg | paulczar, yes, i was embarassed by that :P | 22:00 |
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| paulczar | morganfainberg: it's hard enough to distinguish my work from that of a cat running across a keyboard in the first place, so I try not to add silly mistakes to the mix :) | 22:02 |
| morganfainberg | paulczar, hmm, maybe i should hire a cat then. my code might become clearer. :P | 22:03 |
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| mriedem | got a sqlalchemy question if someone has any tips - trying to update each row in a table where column x's value is y, but i need to set the new value to something unique, | 22:25 |
| mriedem | doing this in a db migration, so not sure if i need to use the model query stuff like in the nova db apis, or if i can do this with sql expression API | 22:26 |
| mriedem | i.e. i don't think table.update().values(x=z).where(x=y) will work since z needs to be unique for each result of x | 22:26 |
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| lifeless | fungi: any chance you can review 65414? solum folk feeling blocked by it | 22:45 |
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| nkinder | dolphm: have a minute to discuss https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1254619 ? | 22:55 |
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| fungi | lifeless: sure, bumping 65414 up in priority | 23:07 |
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| sdague | harlowja: how is the taskflow release coming? | 23:44 |
| harlowja | sdague ok, just a few reviews that need to get approve, hopefully by tommoro | 23:44 |
| sdague | ok | 23:45 |
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| sdague | please let me know when it gets to the pip mirrors so I can recheck that review and see what else is broken | 23:45 |
| harlowja | np | 23:45 |
| harlowja | will do | 23:46 |
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| bknudson | is it too late to move kds from keystone to its own repository? | 23:57 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, likely for Icehouse | 23:58 |
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| bknudson | "tox -r -e py27" is giving me an error -- Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement netifaces>=0.5 | 23:58 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, doesn't mean it hurts to ask | 23:58 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: have you seen that one? | 23:59 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, no. | 23:59 |
| morganfainberg | checkout of a specific review? | 23:59 |
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| morganfainberg | or current head? | 23:59 |
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