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| morganfainberg | jogo that dependency img is looking better and better | 00:08 |
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| jogo | morganfainberg: thanks | 00:14 |
| jogo | anything else missing or wrong? | 00:14 |
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| bknudson | it might be interesting to have what uses keystonemiddleware only and what talks to keystone directly | 00:40 |
| bknudson | heat will talk to keystone directly | 00:40 |
| bknudson | glance probably only uses auth token middleware | 00:40 |
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| jogo | bknudson: that data is in the yaml file | 00:49 |
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| SpamapS | jogo: dentist appointment took me away early. Still have that question? | 02:07 |
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| jogo | SpamapS: no I think they were answered | 02:15 |
| jogo | SpamapS: mainly about the accuracy of the heat part of http://i.imgur.com/z6ulvW8.png | 02:15 |
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| SpamapS | jogo: ah fun | 02:16 |
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| jogo | SpamapS: and the source https://github.com/jogo/graphing-openstack/blob/master/openstack.yaml | 02:33 |
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| larsbutler | Hi everyone, I've got a devstack question. I'm configuring a devstack environment with Vagrant and a small shell script. The script runs ./stack.sh, etc. Is there a way I can inject custom settings into the proxy-server.conf prior to running ./stack.sh (so I don't have restart devstack manually using rejoin_stack.sh)? | 13:46 |
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| larsbutler | Hmm, okay, I think I figured it out. You can write custom scripts and put them in extras.d to do additional stuff throughout the devstack installation: http://devstack.org/plugins.html | 14:20 |
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| arosen1 | Hi, I have a question about soft_delete in oslo.db; why does it insert the id value instead of true/false for deleted? https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/blob/master/oslo/db/sqlalchemy/session.py#L562 | 18:03 |
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| arosen1 | zzzeek: ^ any idea? | 18:05 |
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| zzzeek | arosen1: actually no, I havent dealt with how soft delete is supposed to work | 18:13 |
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| arosen1 | zzzeek: its vish in the nova-channel pointed out the reason why is to lever INDEX's since mysql doesn't let you do that on deleted=0/1 | 18:24 |
| zzzeek | arosen1: that sounds very fishy | 18:24 |
| zzzeek | arosen1: and it probably not true, i did some experimentation with that some weeks ago | 18:25 |
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| zzzeek | arosen1: the EXPLAIN PLAN allows a deleted 1/0 to act on the index | 18:25 |
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| dhellmann | zzzeek, arosen1 : could it have something to do with unique constraints? | 18:48 |
| zzzeek | dhellmann: it does | 18:48 |
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| zzzeek | dhellmann: exacmple is, row contains (user, name), which they’d like to make unique | 18:48 |
| zzzeek | dhellmann: to make it unique including previous rows taht were soft deleted, thje index is (user, name, deleted), so deleted has to be unique outside of the value “false" | 18:48 |
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| zzzeek | dhellmann: in PG the index would be UNIQUE INDEX ON (user, name) WHERE deleted=0 but MySQL does not offer this | 18:49 |
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| dhellmann | zzzeek: makes sense | 18:49 |
| zzzeek | dhellmann: i never use soft delete so i never even had the chance to be aware of this blindingly obvious reason to never use soft delete | 18:50 |
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| dhellmann | zzzeek: "eventually consistent" | 18:50 |
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| arosen1 | zzzeek: if you have a sec would you mind looking at this? http://paste.openstack.org/show/119990/ I'm not sure if this is a bug in sqlalchemy or something i'm doing wrong. The query that's being made to mysql is fine. | 19:32 |
| arosen1 | in sqlalchemy it's trying to use: policy_rules.deleted as a index which is an error as that's not an int | 19:33 |
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| zzzeek | arosen1: what change caused this to happen ? | 19:33 |
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| zzzeek | arosen1: Oh, youre saying fails in Postgrresql, right? | 19:34 |
| arosen1 | zzzeek: i'm using mysql as the backend. | 19:34 |
| zzzeek | arosen1: .deleted is not an int ? | 19:34 |
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| zzzeek | arosen1: if we are putting the PK into .deleted, it can’t be Boolean in any case since even on MySQL it comes out as TINYINY | 19:35 |
| zzzeek | TINYINT | 19:35 |
| zzzeek | arosen1: it needs to be a new class that is a boolean wrapped around an int | 19:35 |
| zzzeek | arosen1: and…this should have been worked out | 19:35 |
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| arosen1 | zzzeek: nope deleted is a string because of oslo.db | 19:35 |
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| arosen1 | and soft_delete() | 19:35 |
| zzzeek | arosen1: OK in http://paste.openstack.org/show/119990/ I see deleted = sa.Column(sa.Boolean(), default=False, nullable=False) | 19:36 |
| zzzeek | arosen1: if the column is a stirng then that is wrong | 19:36 |
| notmyname | ttx: FYI http://d.not.mn/monthly_active_swift_contribs-Oct-09-2014.png | 19:36 |
| zzzeek | arosen1: not to mention the mixin already has a different “deleted” definition | 19:37 |
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| zzzeek | arosen1: also i’ve no idae what oslo.db has to do with this but im nowhere into all the issues with models | 19:37 |
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| arosen1 | zzzeek: ah crap sorry i didn't notice that. | 19:38 |
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| arosen1 | zzzeek: yea the deleted in the base class was the problem . Sorry about that dumb mistake. | 19:39 |
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| * zzzeek hopes soft delete is soft enough that we can squish its little head to death | 19:39 | |
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| ttx | notmyname: nice | 19:55 |
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| mriedem | jogo: can i get you to take a look at this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108129/ been sitting awhile. | 20:19 |
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| jogo | mriedem: guh I don't want to be sqla-migrate core | 20:22 |
| jogo | I am removing myself | 20:22 |
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| jogo | I don't really know the code atall | 20:22 |
| mriedem | ha | 20:23 |
| mriedem | we should just make the oslo.db core team the sqla-migrate core team | 20:23 |
| jogo | wonderful, I cannot remove myself | 20:23 |
| mriedem | make me core and i'll approve it myself | 20:23 |
| jogo | I can't even do that | 20:24 |
| mriedem | jogo: i was joking | 20:24 |
| mriedem | i'll find someone, one of the oslo.db guys | 20:24 |
| mriedem | whatever happened to dripton? | 20:24 |
| jogo | mriedem: I am no longer core | 20:25 |
| mriedem | ha | 20:25 |
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| mriedem | russellb: hey you're sqla-migrate core and i'm sure super active in there, mind looking at this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108129/ | 20:26 |
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| mriedem | jogo: sent an email to the ML about just making oslo.db core own sqlalchemy-migrate, i think it's time | 20:30 |
| jogo | ++ | 20:31 |
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| dhellmann | mriedem, jogo : we've resisted that because we want people to stop using it in favor of alembic (not to say that decision can't be reversed, but that's why it isn't the case now) | 20:46 |
| jogo | dhellmann: I don't really see why that is relevant | 20:47 |
| dhellmann | jogo: we don't want changes to sqlalchemy-migrate | 20:47 |
| jogo | also it gives the oslo.db team more incentive to make people drop it, so they have less to maintain | 20:47 |
| dhellmann | they don't really need more incentive | 20:48 |
| jogo | dhellmann: well I am now off the sqla-migrate core team | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | jogo: congratulations! :-) | 20:48 |
| jogo | dhellmann: it was harder then I thought to do | 20:48 |
| mriedem | i think the oslo.db team could do a better job of rejecting things then | 20:48 |
| mriedem | if we should push to alembic | 20:49 |
| jogo | dhellmann: I agree with mriedem | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: ? | 20:49 |
| mriedem | but for like bug fixes, which my patch is, it seems fair to say we have to review sqla-migrate changes | 20:49 |
| mriedem | b/c nova isn't going to alembic anytime soon as far as i know | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | mriedem: I don't disagree that we should fix bugs, just that we should automatically make all of oslo.db core on some project those people might not want to maintain | 20:51 |
| mriedem | then i guess we need a different core team? | 20:52 |
| mriedem | http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/sqlalchemy-migrate/90 | 20:52 |
| mriedem | there are cores in there that haven't reviewed code in over 90 days | 20:53 |
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| dhellmann | mriedem: yeah, if we need a core team for that we should get people to volunteer or whatever, but not just assign it to people working on something similar | 20:53 |
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| mriedem | ok, i nominate myself :) | 20:53 |
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| jogo | mriedem: I second the nomination for !me | 20:55 |
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| mwhudson | i'm trying to sign the agreement at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/new-agreement | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | it just says | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/new-agreement | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | no | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/new-agreement | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | Code Review - Error | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | Server Error | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | Cannot store contact information | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | though | 22:45 |
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