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| sumanth1991 | Hi | 00:34 |
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| sumanth1991 | I am trying to install openstack from the master branch , using devstack | 00:34 |
| sumanth1991 | everytime I try to install during loading of the images into glance the installation fails with error message not able authenticate | 00:35 |
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| sumanth1991 | how to solve this problem any help would be greatly appreciated | 00:36 |
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| mriedem | stevemar: you know how gd angry i am right now? | 17:55 |
| mriedem | bknudson: ^ :) | 17:55 |
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| bknudson | mriedem: I don't notice it's any different than you are usually. | 17:56 |
| mriedem | :( | 17:56 |
| stevemar | mriedem, why so mad sir | 17:58 |
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| mriedem | the usual | 17:58 |
| stevemar | mriedem, ec2? or other usual | 17:58 |
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| mriedem | other usual | 17:59 |
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| rajinir_r | Anyone installed devstack recently, I see this problem. Invalid input for operation: Gateway is not valid on subnet. | 18:58 |
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| clarkb | rajinir_r: yes I think that means the gateway IP is not in the subnets IP range | 18:59 |
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| rajinir_r | should I define the NETWORK_GATEWAY in the local.conf | 19:02 |
| rajinir_r | I think it is using the default 10.0.0.1 | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | rajinir_r: I think there was a recent switch to neutron by deault maybe this is fallout? | 19:03 |
| clarkb | rajinir_r: but I would check what the network range is then adjust accordingly and file/fix bugs if needed | 19:03 |
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| rajinir_r | clarkb: thanks | 19:04 |
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| lifeless | notmyname: it has a registry of endpoints; which isn't the same thing :) | 22:01 |
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| morganfainberg | sdague, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152337/ worked to fix passive voice | 22:02 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: FWIW I think a spool that can be run along by projects would be ideal | 22:02 |
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| notmyname | well, what Imean is that it knows the services for each user. and perhaps even how those users are related | 22:02 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, ++ | 22:02 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: (think kafka) | 22:02 |
| morganfainberg | i need to go get food | 22:02 |
| morganfainberg | back later, sorry need to run ;) | 22:02 |
| sdague | morganfainberg: cool, will look tomorrow | 22:03 |
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| notmyname | I'd imagine some keystone daemon looking at an identity marked "deleted" and calling the appropriate delete endpoint for each registered service in that identity's catalog | 22:04 |
| morganfainberg | notmyname, i uh.. i don't like that at all. | 22:04 |
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| morganfainberg | its the opposite direction i'd like to see. keystone emits an event, listeners to what they want with it | 22:05 |
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| morganfainberg | fanout works great for that stuff | 22:05 |
| morganfainberg | anyway back in a birt | 22:05 |
| jogo | notmyname: did you see this http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/055841.html | 22:05 |
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| notmyname | jogo: what does "middleware" mean there? wsgi middlewware? | 22:07 |
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| jogo | notmyname: having a single service/script/team that is responsible for cleaning up all of a project's resources won't scale well on a human level as OpenStack scales | 22:07 |
| notmyname | jogo: except for the word "middleware", I think I'm trying to describe what's in that email. or something close | 22:07 |
| jogo | notmyname: the middleware is just a suggested library where we can put this -- but maybe not the right one | 22:07 |
| morganfainberg | Sure. A different package is fine. | 22:08 |
| jogo | s/middleware/library/g | 22:08 |
| notmyname | but what is the middleware? is it a filter factory on a wsgi server? another daemon? ...ah ok | 22:08 |
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| notmyname | well, maybe ok :-) | 22:08 |
| notmyname | where is it running? is it it's own process? | 22:08 |
| mriedem | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystonemiddleware/ | 22:09 |
| morganfainberg | It could be. Just a filter that spawns a listener. Or a separate service. | 22:09 |
| jogo | another daemon of sorts ... own process vs. greenlet is an implimentation detail | 22:09 |
| morganfainberg | Lots of impl options there. | 22:09 |
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| notmyname | I think we're mostly in agreement. | 22:09 |
| mriedem | would this thing need an ack back from the function that it got the message and processed it? | 22:10 |
| notmyname | but a few of the words you're using are scaring me :-) | 22:10 |
| morganfainberg | mriedem: not back to keystone. | 22:10 |
| notmyname | I really really really do not want a message queue listener in swift | 22:10 |
| jogo | I think the important part is keystone should not have to know how to delete arbitrary resources, and projects should have a nice python API they can use | 22:10 |
| notmyname | (for this) | 22:10 |
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| mriedem | so i'm not sure why we are registering things to keystone middleware if nova can aleady register a listener for keystone events today | 22:11 |
| mriedem | and get an event on a deleted project | 22:11 |
| morganfainberg | notmyname: again impl details. I'm not tied to it being anything specific. Just the concept of a listener that a project can register a hook with | 22:11 |
| jogo | notmyname: oh right swift doesn't use oslo.messaging ... which is smart | 22:11 |
| notmyname | jogo: right now in swift (and for the past 5 years in swift), a privileged identity can send a DELETE to an account in swift and swift will async clean it up (recursively delete all the data) | 22:11 |
| morganfainberg | That we pass specific days back to that function. | 22:11 |
| notmyname | what I want is for keystone to get a DELETE request and send a DELETE to swift. that's it :-) | 22:11 |
| morganfainberg | notmyname: no | 22:12 |
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| jogo | notmyname: your callback can do that | 22:12 |
| notmyname | morganfainberg: well, the "listener" in the case of swift is the api endpoint | 22:12 |
| morganfainberg | I don't want keystone to be responsible to tell every endpojnt of every action directly | 22:12 |
| notmyname | perhaps on a unique/special host or ip | 22:12 |
| jogo | and be a separate service etc. | 22:12 |
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| morganfainberg | Your callback could do that. | 22:12 |
| jogo | this sounds like a good discussion for the ML | 22:12 |
| morganfainberg | What we are describing. | 22:12 |
| morganfainberg | jogo: ++ | 22:12 |
| notmyname | jogo: this is terrible for the mailing list. we're here right now and we all get hundreds of emails a day we ignore :-) | 22:13 |
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| morganfainberg | I'm walking to lunch. So I'm dropping off soon ;) | 22:13 |
| jogo | notmyname: there appears to be context you have in your head that we dont and vice versa | 22:13 |
| jogo | doing a level set on context isn't always easy in IRC | 22:13 |
| notmyname | jogo: right. I want to get that straightened out | 22:13 |
| mriedem | should we dump ideas into the ML and pick this up when morganfainberg is around again? | 22:14 |
| mriedem | if nothing comes up, we talk about it in next week's cross project meeting | 22:14 |
| morganfainberg | mriedem: was just going to say that. Or an etherpad? | 22:14 |
| notmyname | the other word (besides middleware) that I'm confused on is what you mean by callback | 22:14 |
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| morganfainberg | notmyname: you have a function defined in a config (entry point) that the daemon keystone provides calls. | 22:15 |
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| jogo | notmyname: the wikipedia definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callback_%28computer_programming%29 | 22:15 |
| morganfainberg | You tell the daemon when to callback to that function. | 22:15 |
| notmyname | jogo: I know what a callback is in general. | 22:15 |
| jogo | or this one maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callback_%28comedy%29 | 22:15 |
| morganfainberg | Eg on delete. | 22:15 |
| morganfainberg | Wether this is in-process or a separate service. In he case of swift you'd call delete on the endpoint for asynchronous delete | 22:16 |
| * jogo is clearly missing something here | 22:16 | |
| morganfainberg | jogo: I think I'm on the same page as you? | 22:16 |
| jogo | morganfainberg: I think so yes | 22:16 |
| morganfainberg | And this sounds like the framework will be really easy (oh no I said it) to put together. Letting the projects act on any of the events however they need to. | 22:17 |
| notmyname | so a new piece of code that registers itself with keystone that also listens to events emitted by keystone so that it can in turn act on those events | 22:18 |
| morganfainberg | Doesn't register with keystone. Listens for the events. | 22:18 |
| morganfainberg | Events are on the bus already. | 22:18 |
| notmyname | instead of keystone knowing the a provision/cleanup call for each service that's registered there | 22:18 |
| morganfainberg | notmyname: but yes. | 22:18 |
| morganfainberg | And you can run this code as many times wherever you need with different ℅ figs. | 22:19 |
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| morganfainberg | Config* | 22:19 |
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| morganfainberg | so swift may have a different process than nova becaus it runs in a different network segment. | 22:19 |
| notmyname | morganfainberg: to abuse the metaphor... but my point is that I don't even have a street, much less the bus stop or a bus by which to get the messages | 22:19 |
| morganfainberg | This code would do that part is the point | 22:20 |
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| notmyname | and each project is responsible for building that part of their infrastructure? | 22:20 |
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| morganfainberg | And then your function would just do what is needed. | 22:21 |
| notmyname | there's already an API for removing stuff. why are we making another one to be a glue layer to call the one that already exists? | 22:21 |
| morganfainberg | Yes so swift would say do delete to the endpoint. | 22:21 |
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| morganfainberg | Because swift does this and nova doesn't. | 22:22 |
| morganfainberg | And we should solve it consistently. | 22:22 |
| notmyname | nova doesn't have an api for deleting instances in a project? | 22:22 |
| notmyname | ie deleting all instances in a project | 22:23 |
| morganfainberg | It might be swift function is just the delete. But asking keystone to tell all endpoint a event happened is bad. Why does keystone need to call this vs emit something on the bus | 22:23 |
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| morganfainberg | Since swift doesn't have a bus I am trying to solve this for you and nova I. A nice way. | 22:24 |
| morganfainberg | Anyway food /me drops. | 22:24 |
| notmyname | morganfainberg: sorry to keep you. thanks for talking it out | 22:24 |
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| ahale | notmyname: it gives swift the chance to act differently as well, like restrict access by deleting caches rather than just nuke everything | 22:27 |
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| notmyname | ahale: ya, that's a different API that swift should have had a long time ago too | 22:28 |
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