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| ttx | sdague: we did have that discussion in the "no longer hold the meeting" thread | 13:10 |
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| ttx | sdague: discussion on that is mostly driven by thingee and annegentle and they were away last week and this week, so I thought we should preserve the meeting as-is until that thread reaches a conclusion ? | 13:11 |
| ttx | especially since someone posted an agenda topic | 13:11 |
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| sdague | ttx: ok, so that was specifically about the "cross project meeting" | 13:14 |
| sdague | here is my dilemma | 13:14 |
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| sdague | anne and I are planning to do the service catalog tng with a weekly virtual standup. Virtual as in we expect most folks not to attend the meeting, but just stick something in the etherpad in advance. | 13:15 |
| sdague | and scope it to 30 minutes max to figure out if we've got a big hole | 13:15 |
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| sdague | given the proliferation of meetings, the time we want is already massively blocked out. Though not by anything that affects either of us. | 13:16 |
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| ttx | sounds fair game for #openstack-dev to me | 13:17 |
| sdague | ok | 13:17 |
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| sdague | here is the review - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245745/ - I figured it would either be allowed or not allowed there | 13:17 |
| ttx | I think the concept of reusing -dev for cross-project meetings was fairly consensual | 13:17 |
| ttx | will comment | 13:18 |
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| sdague | great | 13:24 |
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| annegentle | flaper87: around? | 16:16 |
| annegentle | flaper87: just wanted to check in on TC comms | 16:16 |
| annegentle | flaper87: though I don't have anything to report | 16:16 |
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| flaper87 | annegentle: here now | 16:44 |
| flaper87 | annegentle: yeah, same here. I think we'll have more this week | 16:44 |
| flaper87 | and we can work on something based on tomorrow's meeting | 16:44 |
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| annegentle | flaper87: ok sounds right then | 17:56 |
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| ansiwen | what's the reason gerrit uses "Merge if Necessary" instead of "Rebase if Necessary"? | 18:50 |
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| clarkb | ansiwen: gerrit does funny things when you don't merge if necessary like rewrite the commit | 18:53 |
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| clarkb | we tested alternate "merge" methods and decided that merging was actually the lest amount of trouble | 18:54 |
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| ansiwen | hmm... ok... because the git history really doesn't look nice with this, almost everything is a merge from a single-commit-branch... | 18:55 |
| clarkb | ansiwen: you can remove the merge commits... | 18:55 |
| clarkb | git log --no-merges | 18:56 |
| ansiwen | you mean I can hide them ;-) | 18:56 |
| clarkb | sure not remove from history, remove from whateve ryo uare looking at to view history | 18:56 |
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| ansiwen | I'm suprised that there was more trouble with rebase. for single-commits I always expected it is exactly the same merge algorithm, just that the merge commit copies the commit-message of the merged commit. | 19:00 |
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| ansiwen | (end of course doesn't reference it as parent then) | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | right I think that was ultimately the issue is that you lost the connection between the commits | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | so git branch -d stops working for example | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | I know with cherry pick it also rewrote the commit message which is not good | 19:02 |
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| ansiwen | git branch -d stopped working? we used "rebase if necessary" in my old company, and we had no such issues... | 19:05 |
| clarkb | yes because -d will only delete if the remote has merged and it can't determine that after a rebase iirc | 19:07 |
| clarkb | you have to -D | 19:07 |
| ansiwen | for us it detected that very reliably | 19:08 |
| clarkb | it was worse with cherry pick because the commit message changed too | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | (it adds the review notes to the commit message) | 19:09 |
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| ansiwen | oh, you can disable that... we wrote that into a special notes branch | 19:11 |
| clarkb | thats how its supposed to work | 19:12 |
| clarkb | but iirc isn't configurable on cherry pick? | 19:12 |
| clarkb | or maybe wasn't at the time | 19:12 |
| ansiwen | oh, chery-pick... not sure... i'm only talking about rebase | 19:12 |
| clarkb | its a similar issue though | 19:12 |
| clarkb | basically doing that is terrible and gerrit shouldn't do it | 19:12 |
| clarkb | it should write them to the notes refs like it does for merges | 19:13 |
| ansiwen | for rebase it does that... we used it that way | 19:13 |
| clarkb | cool (also note the last time anyone seriously looked at this we were on gerrit 2.4) | 19:13 |
| ansiwen | that might be the issue, we used 2.10 | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | ansiwen: note that 2.10 has a pretty serious bug in it where pack files are marked corrupt and ignored | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | we discovered that one the hard way and had to downgrade | 19:14 |
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| ansiwen | well, not my problem anymore, I left that company ;-) | 19:15 |
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| stevemar_ | sdague: so nova-manage commands are going into nova CLI? | 19:51 |
| stevemar_ | sdague: like the db migration ones? | 19:51 |
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| sdague | not db migration | 19:53 |
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| sdague | here is what's still in nova-manage | 19:54 |
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| sdague | http://paste.openstack.org/show/479034/ | 19:54 |
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| sdague | and here is the command set for the nova command: http://paste.openstack.org/show/479035/ | 19:56 |
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| stevemar_ | sdague: so things like 'network' and 'host' are now moved to network-create and host-list | 20:07 |
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| sdague | some have | 20:07 |
| sdague | I don't have all the matrix of the world | 20:07 |
| stevemar_ | thats fine | 20:08 |
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| stevemar_ | sdague: so as long as they use the python bindings of novaclient, then they can do in osc long term | 20:08 |
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| sdague | sure, as long as that is all being surfaced | 20:08 |
| sdague | though there is still the lack of microversion support in osc | 20:09 |
| stevemar_ | sdague: i think dtroyer_zz had a plan for that... | 20:09 |
| sdague | anyway, the point of the comment is, there is still a gulf here | 20:09 |
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| sdague | and we should probably plan for soft landing and not kick our users in the knees | 20:09 |
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| stevemar_ | true true, i'll add some comments to the patch about administrative bits | 20:13 |
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| mriedem | stevemar_: flaper87: how is this going to be handled for a version bump? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236021/ - 0.2.0? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | oh there is a 0.2.0 | 21:20 |
| stevemar_ | mriedem: flaper87, i was thinking 0.3.0 or mitaka and 0.2.1 for liberty | 21:20 |
| mriedem | so i guess 0.3.0 | 21:20 |
| stevemar_ | mriedem: i'm pretty sure it doesn't work on liberty right now :( | 21:21 |
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| mriedem | stevemar_: yeah, but as noted in the backport, upper-constraints on stable/liberty will probably just pick up 0.3.0 | 21:21 |
| mriedem | stevemar_: are you going to push the release request for 0.3.0 or will i? | 21:21 |
| stevemar_ | mriedem: UC for zaqar is 0.2.0 :( | 21:23 |
| stevemar_ | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/liberty/upper-constraints.txt#L272 | 21:23 |
| mriedem | yeah i know | 21:23 |
| mriedem | but that changes | 21:23 |
| stevemar_ | mriedem: i was just gonna, wanted to talk to you first | 21:23 |
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| stevemar_ | or someone | 21:23 |
| stevemar_ | ah cool | 21:23 |
| mriedem | there is a bot that proposes u-c changes | 21:23 |
| stevemar_ | i'll push 0.3.0 then | 21:23 |
| mriedem | if it passes tests, we approve | 21:23 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:23 |
| mriedem | add me to the review | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | you'll have to push the u-c change on master for 0.3.0 also in the reqs repo | 21:23 |
| mriedem | per the new process | 21:23 |
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| stevemar_ | mriedem: yep | 21:27 |
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| stevemar_ | mriedem: bump g-r to 0.3.0 too? | 21:30 |
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| mriedem | stevemar_: u-c | 21:34 |
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| stevemar_ | mriedem: thanks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245991/ | 21:40 |
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| stevemar_ | mriedem: shouldn't g-r be bumped too? since we don't want folks using <0.3.0 | 21:41 |
| mriedem | you could | 21:41 |
| mriedem | stevemar_: might as well | 21:42 |
| stevemar_ | mriedem: did that here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245994/ | 21:42 |
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| mriedem | +1s all around | 21:44 |
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