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| lifeless | jaypipes: hi | 04:30 |
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| jaypipes | lifeless: hey :) just following your request now. | 04:32 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: gimme a few :) | 04:32 |
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| jaypipes | lifeless: so this is in setup.cfg: | 04:34 |
| jaypipes | [extras] | 04:34 |
| jaypipes | fixtures = | 04:34 |
| jaypipes | mock>=1.2 | 04:34 |
| jaypipes | fixtures>=1.3.1 | 04:34 |
| jaypipes | anything wrong with that? | 04:34 |
| lifeless | nope | 04:35 |
| lifeless | it means the thing is real | 04:35 |
| lifeless | I suspect I know the problem btw | 04:35 |
| lifeless | you didn't purge and replace tox | 04:35 |
| lifeless | and on your distro tox is being run in a python3 environment | 04:35 |
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| lifeless | and so you need to be purging python3-virtualenv and replacing it | 04:36 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: http://pastebin.com/mBentEY2 | 04:36 |
| lifeless | (or just run everything from a user virtualenv like my blog post does) | 04:36 |
| jaypipes | lemme blow away python3-virtualenv... | 04:36 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: well; first the .tox activate stuff | 04:37 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: that will let us confirm that it is indeed a faulty pip version | 04:37 |
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| jaypipes | lifeless: :( yep, looks like it was still using an old setuptools: | 04:38 |
| jaypipes | jaypipes@minty:~/repos/oslo.versionedobjects$ source .tox/py34/bin/activate | 04:38 |
| jaypipes | (py34)jaypipes@minty:~/repos/oslo.versionedobjects$ pip list | 04:38 |
| jaypipes | pip (1.5.6) | 04:38 |
| jaypipes | setuptools (12.2) | 04:38 |
| lifeless | (its actually pip that matters here, but yeah) | 04:38 |
| jaypipes | k, so I apt-get remove'd python3-virtualenv | 04:39 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: grrr... | 04:40 |
| jaypipes | jaypipes@minty:~/repos/oslo.versionedobjects$ sudo -H pip install -U virtualenv | 04:40 |
| jaypipes | [sudo] password for jaypipes: | 04:40 |
| jaypipes | Requirement already up-to-date: virtualenv in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages | 04:40 |
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| lifeless | sudo -H python3 -m pip install -U virtualenv | 04:40 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: note that I'm not a fan of butchering the OS maintained things like this | 04:40 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: I *much* prefer to just run all my tools out of a virtualenv | 04:41 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: right, but you first need virtualenv, right? :) | 04:41 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: yeah, but you can bootstrap with the system virtualenv | 04:41 |
| lifeless | virtualenv tools; activate it; pip install -U pip virtualenv wheel tox pbr | 04:41 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: jaypipes@minty:~/repos/oslo.versionedobjects$ sudo -H python3 -m pip install -U virtualenv | 04:41 |
| jaypipes | /usr/bin/python3: No module named pip | 04:41 |
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| lifeless | jaypipes: hahahahahah :) | 04:41 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: either use get-pip, or instal python3-pip | 04:42 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: the version of pip outside the virtualenv doesn't matter | 04:42 |
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| jaypipes | hmm, I already used get-pip.py though.. | 04:42 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: or use that | 04:42 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: sudo -H python3 get-pip.py | 04:42 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: how should I install tox? apt-get? or pip? or python3 pip install? | 04:43 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: my preference is pip installing it, since that eliminates distro variance etc | 04:44 |
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| lifeless | jaypipes: it doesn't truely matter though | 04:44 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: BTW, just to rant a little bit... but why did this crap suddenly just stop working? :( everything was working just fine in my dev environments until recently (not entirely sure exactly when, though) | 04:44 |
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| lifeless | jaypipes: Ubuntu moved tox to be a python3 script not a python2.7 script | 04:45 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: this meant that all the muscle memory folk have for working around old versions of tools suddenly became obsolete | 04:45 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: fun | 04:45 |
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| lifeless | jaypipes: and this is why my blog post says 'don't use any distro versions of any of these tools at all ever' | 04:46 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: (perhaps less bluntly) | 04:46 |
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| jaypipes | lifeless: :) | 04:46 |
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| lifeless | jaypipes: (and to avoid breakage on new releases of the distro, don't sudo install them either) | 04:46 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: \o/ you are a life-saver, my friend. | 04:47 |
| lifeless | de nada :) | 04:47 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: ty so much. made my night. | 04:47 |
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| geguileo | Hi, any way in Tempest to skip a test only in Juno and Kilo? | 10:49 |
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| geguileo | Something like @decorators.skip_because(bug='1455043', condition=CONF.version in ('juno', 'kilo')) | 10:50 |
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| sdague | annegentle: question on wadl changes like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246383/ - would it be good to make an docs-api-core that is also +2 on that repo | 14:15 |
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| sdague | so that some of the api focussed folks could make sure things move through quickly | 14:16 |
| sdague | not that I have any complaints with your speed here, but it might spread things out a bit | 14:16 |
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| annegentle | sdague: we do have so few reviewers there, like less than five? Not a bad idea. I'm working on something like that for the fairy-slipper import. So could be same team. | 14:18 |
| sdague | yeh, I think a dedicated gerrit acl for something like docs-api-core, and then add that where you think appropriate | 14:18 |
| sdague | annegentle: it looks like it just defaults to docs-core for that repo | 14:19 |
| sdague | so it's a bunch of people, but I don't know if it's people that really are looking at that | 14:19 |
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| annegentle | sdague: yeah it's definitely a sub group :) and I would like to lift up another group for sure | 14:21 |
| annegentle | sdague: esp. the nova API folks and the API working group | 14:21 |
| sdague | yeh | 14:21 |
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| sdague | anyway, a thought, and something that came up in the nova-api meeting today | 14:21 |
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| annegentle | sdague: thanks. I am reading the notes now | 14:27 |
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| ttx | etoews: around ? | 15:08 |
| ttx | etoews: re: chairing the cross-project meeting later today | 15:08 |
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| etoews | ttx: i'm in another meeting right now but i can say that i wouldn't be able to make they CP meeting today. feel free to remove those items from the agenda. they're just a highlight for CPLs and we already add them to the reviews explicitly. | 15:09 |
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| ttx | etoews: ok noted | 15:11 |
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| dulek | dhellmann: Quick question - what is the policy we should use to determine when bug is worth a release note added using reno? | 15:19 |
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| dhellmann | dulek : good question. The keystone folks had a good writeup in their docs, but I'm not finding it. stevemar_ , bknudson_ do you have a link to that handy? | 15:26 |
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| dhellmann | dulek : here it is: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/developing.html#building-the-documentation | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | actually http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/developing.html#release-notes | 15:28 |
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| dulek | dhellmann: Thanks, that's very helpful! We'll come up with something similar for Cinder. | 15:31 |
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| dhellmann | dulek : I'm going to add something to the project team guide, maybe the cinder docs can just point there | 15:32 |
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| dhellmann | that way we only have to worry about updating it in one place if the instructions change | 15:33 |
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| dulek | dhellmann: We'll probably add some specific items to our list due to our drivers policies. But in general - that would be useful. | 15:33 |
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| bknudson_ | we'll likely still have some specific instructions for keystone... e.g., "The backend driver interface changes" | 15:34 |
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| dulek | bknudson_: Yup, but common part can be extracted easily. :) | 15:35 |
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| stevemar_ | dhellmann: dulek bknudson_ ideally it could go under http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ but that's just going to have a point to the projects - like: http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/neutron | 15:36 |
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| dhellmann | stevemar_ : actually we're going to link to the release notes from the docs.openstack.org/releases | 15:37 |
| stevemar_ | dhellmann: ah neat | 15:38 |
| stevemar_ | i really like that link :) | 15:38 |
| stevemar_ | well maybe instructions for releasenotes should go there | 15:38 |
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| dhellmann | stevemar_ : that's where people will consume them, though, it's not where developers should be looking for directions | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | dulek , stevemar_, bknudson_ : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246455/1 | 15:42 |
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| stevemar_ | dhellmann: i'm ashamed to say that i didn't know http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/ existed | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | stevemar_ : yeah, it's fairly new | 15:44 |
| stevemar_ | *phew* | 15:44 |
| stevemar_ | it's pretty awesome | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | we're trying to move some of the stuff from the wiki there, where it's easier to review changes | 15:44 |
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| stevemar_ | ++ | 15:46 |
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| stevemar_ | dhellmann: i think there should be a 'deprecations' section to the template | 15:52 |
| stevemar_ | i lumped those into 'other' | 15:52 |
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| dhellmann | stevemar_ : makes sense. it would require code changes to reno, but they should be pretty simple if you want to take a stab. | 16:02 |
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| annegentle | sdague: what about "appdev-site-core" as in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245352/6/gerrit/acls/openstack/fairy-slipper.config for a group that can approve API changes? | 16:17 |
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| sdague | annegentle: sure, naming isn't a big deal as long as we could get api subteam members from nova into it | 16:21 |
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| annegentle | sdague: yah. I am working on a blueprint / spec for the overall conceptual doc problem. Really the API reference info is just a chapter in a larger guide. We have the pieces, just have to glue it all together. | 16:23 |
| annegentle | "chapter"/"article" whatever | 16:23 |
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| sdague | annegentle: great, thanks | 16:29 |
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| annegentle | sdague: and I really have to stop using "just" -- it's way more work than that qualifier would have you believe ha haha | 16:30 |
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| hdaniel | ajo, do you have a spare second tomorrow for some qos-rbac rant ? | 18:40 |
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| hdaniel | ajo, no more than 10 min | 18:40 |
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| ajo | hdaniel hi | 18:47 |
| ajo | sorry, I'm on another meeting | 18:47 |
| hdaniel | ajo, np. | 18:47 |
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| ajo | hdaniel , can you tomorrow morning? | 18:47 |
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| ayoung | sdague, you still against the fix in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187346/ ? I don't think there is a a Service Catlog approach that will fix it. | 18:53 |
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| hdaniel | ajo, yeah. anytime after your 9:00 | 18:56 |
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| ajo | hdaniel, ack, my 9:30 probably works | 18:56 |
| hdaniel | ajo, cool. I'll ping you upfront | 18:56 |
| hdaniel | ajo, 10x | 18:56 |
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| sdague | ayoung: I thought that there was a middleware fix to make that not required | 19:31 |
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| ayoung | sdague, for devstack? | 19:32 |
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| sdague | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/075239.html | 19:32 |
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| sdague | then if you specify the service catalog correctly, even today, you should stay on ssl hosts | 19:32 |
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| ayoung | sdague, " the <base> information is not provided in the headers " | 19:33 |
| ayoung | that is still the case. | 19:33 |
| sdague | ok, well I've got a few other threads going on right now, so I can't context switch into this | 19:34 |
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| ayoung | sdague, NP | 19:34 |
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| ayoung | sdague, just please see if you can drop the -1 and accept the devstack fix, pedning a longer fix for doing it "right" across all services | 19:34 |
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| sdague | we definitely need some new test results on that | 19:37 |
| ayoung | sdague, agreed | 19:38 |
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| ayoung | that is why we are pushing for it. | 19:38 |
| sdague | right, I mean the current patch, the test results are from August | 19:38 |
| sdague | I just ran recheck on it | 19:38 |
| ayoung | yeah, I was going to rebase etc | 19:39 |
| sdague | yeh, rebase | 19:39 |
| sdague | I can live with it for now | 19:39 |
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| sdague | so rebase it, and I'll +2 it | 19:39 |
| ayoung | didn't want to work on it if you were dead set against it | 19:39 |
| ayoung | Cool | 19:39 |
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| sdague | ok, yay for continuing | 21:01 |
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| sdague | what's the process for setting up the new meeting room? | 21:02 |
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| annegentle | sdague: I think it's all infra stuff | 21:03 |
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| sdague | ok, we were continuing the conversation here, right jeblair :) | 21:03 |
| annegentle | sdague: :) I'll look for a similar patch | 21:04 |
| annegentle | sdague: did I ever point out http://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/compute/general_info.html? | 21:04 |
| annegentle | it's alive! | 21:04 |
| sdague | annegentle: nice | 21:04 |
| jeblair | oh hi! | 21:04 |
| jeblair | sdague: yeah, add it to project-config | 21:04 |
| ttx | sdague: so would we go for a specialized meeting room or a common one ? | 21:04 |
| ttx | we seemed to go back and forth during the meeting | 21:05 |
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| sdague | ttx: I think that if we want to have cross project efforts that spring up and go away, we need a reserve space where they can have a meeting at a convenient time | 21:05 |
| jeblair | i like the idea of a specialized cp meeting room | 21:05 |
| ttx | jeblair: I'm fine with that being created now | 21:05 |
| sdague | otherwise there is massive bias and advantage to things that have been around longer | 21:05 |
| ttx | we'll need to clearly specify the criteria thouhg | 21:06 |
| sdague | sure | 21:06 |
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| ttx | since I know a lot of things consider themselves cross-project | 21:06 |
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| jeblair | tc seems a no brainer. i do not know if docs, infra, rm, stable, security, etc... should be. | 21:06 |
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| ttx | Maybe "TC meeting and discussion of cross-project specs" ? | 21:06 |
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| jeblair | we could fill it up pretty quickly if we open to all horizontal teams. | 21:06 |
| sdague | cross-project should be something the tc blesses as such I would think. This is really a workgroup | 21:06 |
| ttx | jeblair: it feels like that would suddenly become crowded. Although I guess preventing overlap there is actually a good idea | 21:07 |
| sdague | yeh, if we just fill it all with horizontal teams it defeats the idea of having a workgroup spring up for 2 releases and go away | 21:07 |
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| ttx | the irc-meetings reviewers will need a pretty clear rule that they can objectively apply | 21:08 |
| jeblair | yeah, i mean the conflicts are real regardless of the technology. but especially if we're thinking tc-based ephemeral things, then we don't necessarily need all horizontal teams all the time. so i'm okay keeping it small. | 21:08 |
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| ttx | I'll still do the cleanup of unused slots, but maybe it's less urgent | 21:09 |
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| sdague | yeh, ok, I'll propose in the morning. I need to do farm pickup | 21:09 |
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| annegentle | sdague does farm pickup? | 21:11 |
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| jeblair | annegentle: got to pay the bills | 21:14 |
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| dolphm | stevemar_: o/ | 21:15 |
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| tonyb | I'm happy to create the channel and as long as we set out the guidlines for what is appropriate in that channel I can watch it in irc-meetings reviews | 21:16 |
| annegentle | tonyb: makes sense | 21:16 |
| tonyb | ddi y'all pick a name? | 21:16 |
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| tonyb | that's the hardest part | 21:16 |
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| annegentle | tonyb: srsly.... | 21:16 |
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| stevemar_ | dolphm: yes sir! | 21:17 |
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| dolphm | stevemar_: one sec | 21:17 |
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| dolphm | stevemar_: ntata is wondering what 'openstack configuration list' would look like relative to 'openstack configuration show' per https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1479400 | 21:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479400 in python-openstackclient "Add configuration list command" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Nandini (nandini-tata) | 21:18 |
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| stevemar_ | ntata: oh hai | 21:20 |
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| stevemar_ | let me find terry | 21:20 |
| stevemar_ | can you both go to #openstack-sdks? | 21:20 |
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| ntata | @stevemar_: hello! sure, will go there | 21:21 |
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| tonyb | annegentle: you suggested #openstack-cross-project so I'll just do that thing unless there is a halt order while I'm dropping the kids off at school | 21:21 |
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| annegentle | tonyb: thanks | 21:23 |
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| stevemar_ | dolphm: still around? | 21:29 |
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| stevemar_ | dolphm: this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246145/ and it's dependent | 21:30 |
| stevemar_ | for stable/maint ^ | 21:30 |
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| shaleh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203211/ <-- What would people like to see me do with this? Is a spec really needed? | 21:32 |
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| stevemar_ | shaleh: no spec, osc doesn't do specs :) | 21:34 |
| stevemar_ | just a bug for tracking | 21:34 |
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| shaleh | stevemar_: so I open a ticket saying "OSC should let me specify a path", assign it to myself, update the commit message with the bug ID and a DocImpact tag? | 21:36 |
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| stevemar_ | shaleh: don't bother with docimpact, i don't read those for osc | 21:36 |
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| shaleh | stevemar_: so the only good advice in the reviews was to open a ticket? :-) | 21:37 |
| stevemar_ | shaleh: it's just so i can create release notes for when we cut a new release, without a bug, i will forget that this feature exists | 21:37 |
| stevemar_ | shaleh: yep! << my advice | 21:37 |
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| stevemar_ | don't listen to gyee, he's always leading you in the wrong direction | 21:37 |
| shaleh | stevemar_: Yeah. But often fun and educational. | 21:38 |
| stevemar_ | he has it's merits | 21:38 |
| stevemar_ | his* | 21:38 |
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| shaleh | stevemar_: now that my other patches are settling down I will get this one moved through. I really like clouds.yaml. | 21:39 |
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| shaleh | stevemar_: I am super grumpy they-want-it-to-be-a-million-chars-long but oh well | 21:39 |
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| shaleh | stevemar_: nothing like ensuring no one will use the handy features you give them | 21:39 |
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| gyee | stevemar_, say what? :) | 21:45 |
| stevemar_ | gyee: umm nothing | 21:46 |
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