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| ryu25 | yamamoto: hello | 07:35 |
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| yamamoto | ryu25: hi | 07:35 |
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| ryu25 | about https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-midonet/+bug/1513312 now that MNA-1108 is merged, was your hypothesis correct that it was the cause? | 07:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1513312 in networking-midonet "test_host_name_is_same_as_server_name failure for v1 job" [Medium,New] | 07:36 |
| ryu25 | if you don't know I'll check the latest CI tests to see | 07:36 |
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| yamamoto | ryu25: why this channel? | 07:40 |
| ryu25 | actually just found a job where this test failed | 07:40 |
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| yamamoto | ryu25: i don't think the patch is merged to the relevant branch. | 07:40 |
| yamamoto | ryu25: ie. https://review.gerrithub.io/#/c/253835/ | 07:41 |
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| Diplomat | Hey guys, I installed that catalog thing and now my horizon does not have any styles. Any ideas why ? | 10:51 |
| Diplomat | error log is fine | 10:51 |
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| mriedem | gordc: have you seen this? http://logs.openstack.org/periodic-stable/periodic-ceilometer-python27-liberty/a79e0ad/console.html#_2015-12-09_11_05_37_946 - ceilometer stable/liberty | 14:48 |
| mriedem | gordc: maybe broken on oslo.messaging 3.1.0? | 14:48 |
| gordc | mriedem: hm.. yeah. we patched it in master. | 14:49 |
| gordc | i'll backport it. | 14:49 |
| gordc | mriedem: getting right on to stable ptl duties eh? | 14:49 |
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| mriedem | gordc: not really | 14:50 |
| mriedem | looks like this was the breaking change https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/commit/33c1010c3281804456a22b769c4bac5ac6a7cca1 | 14:50 |
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| dims | mriedem : gordc : advance warning and patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252740/ | 14:50 |
| gordc | dims: yep | 14:51 |
| mriedem | dims: were the options deprecated before that? | 14:51 |
| mriedem | looks like deprecation started in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249508/ | 14:51 |
| dims | mriedem : take a look closer. you can't use conf.old_option when the old_option is in a library | 14:52 |
| gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255296/ | 14:52 |
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| mriedem | and we wouldn't see this on oslo.messaging gate i'm assuming b/c we don't test ceilometer in the o.m gate | 14:54 |
| dims | mriedem : yes | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | dims: at this point, i think you should probably say something in lifeless' spec about backward compat https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ | 14:55 |
| mriedem | because o.m 3.1.0 has broken stable/liberty in two separate projects for different reasons | 14:55 |
| mriedem | in the before times, we'd just cap o.m in stable/liberty at <3.0 | 14:56 |
| dims | mriedem : see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252088/ where we bend over backwards to support overrides (that prevented more projects from breaking) | 14:56 |
| mriedem | since major versions are when we can expect backwards incompatible changes | 14:56 |
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| dims | mriedem : talked to sdague about another situation and here's what we came up with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255245/ | 14:57 |
| dims | we should do the same for oslo.messaging | 14:57 |
| gordc | dims: yeah, we should definitely cap oslo.middleware in liberty. that was whole point of delaying namespace removal to Mitaka | 14:58 |
| dims | gordc : please +1 :) | 14:58 |
| gordc | dims: done | 14:59 |
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| dims | thanks gordc | 14:59 |
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| gordc | re: oslo.messaging liberty cap, i'm indifferent. we can either merge backport fix or cap. we probably won't use anything from >=3.0.0 in liberty | 15:01 |
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| dims | mriedem : at this point, i feel like we should just do a oslo.messaging-mitaka and oslo.messaging-n and so on...this is ridiculous | 15:01 |
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| dims | ranting of course | 15:01 |
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| mriedem | dims: well, that's what the major version is for, | 15:02 |
| mriedem | and that's what we'd cap around in stable in the past | 15:02 |
| mriedem | and i'm still sort of advocating for capping that way | 15:02 |
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| bknudson | if you cap you'll need a branch to backport fixes | 15:03 |
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| sdague | bknudson: you will, but this is one of those cases where this will break real people | 15:05 |
| gordc | i though we already had stable branches for oslo libs? | 15:06 |
| gordc | thought* | 15:06 |
| gordc | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/tree/stable/liberty | 15:06 |
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| sdague | gordc: we were trying to get away from that | 15:06 |
| gordc | sdague: ah, got it | 15:07 |
| gordc | yeah, it would've been nice. | 15:07 |
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| bknudson | if we cap one we'll wind up capping everything to keep from pulling in the newer version | 15:13 |
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| bknudson | and the newer version will probably still wind up getting mysteriously installed | 15:14 |
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| mriedem | bknudson: kind of depends on what's being capped and where it resides in the dep chain | 15:14 |
| gordc | bknudson: move everythin back under oslo-incubator? :) | 15:14 |
| mriedem | if it's something like oslo.utils, i agree | 15:14 |
| mriedem | gordc: ha! i said that in the ML i htink | 15:15 |
| mriedem | things were so much simpler then.... | 15:15 |
| gordc | mriedem: great minds | 15:15 |
| mriedem | gordc: but i'm not aware of other libs/clients that require oslo.messaging | 15:15 |
| mriedem | capping the lowest common libs was always the big issue | 15:15 |
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| gordc | mriedem: keystonemiddleware and ceilometermiddleware optionally use it | 15:15 |
| mriedem | oslo.messaing or oslo.middleware? | 15:16 |
| gordc | oslo.messaging | 15:16 |
| mriedem | bknudson: also, we released poorly in the past | 15:16 |
| gordc | they both send messages based on incoming requests | 15:16 |
| mriedem | i.e. we bumped the .z version when we should have been bumping .y or .x | 15:16 |
| gordc | if you use a specific middleware in the ilbs | 15:16 |
| gordc | libs* | 15:16 |
| dims | gordc : new library with new name and new namespace and new version every week | 15:16 |
| mriedem | dims: let the epoch sort them out | 15:16 |
| gordc | dims: cool with me. i'm not managing releases | 15:16 |
| dims | gordc : folks can choose what they want to use :) | 15:16 |
| bknudson | I don't see any libs using oslo.middleware... keystonemiddleware has it in test-requirements.txt | 15:17 |
| gordc | bknudson: oslo.messaging? | 15:17 |
| gordc | or middleware? | 15:17 |
| bknudson | yes, oslo.messaging | 15:17 |
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| gordc | kk yeah, it's definitely optional in both keystonemiddleware/ceiloemtermiddleware | 15:18 |
| gordc | (i think) | 15:18 |
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| bknudson | ./openstack/ceilometermiddleware/requirements.txt:oslo.messaging!=2.8.0,>2.6.1 # Apache-2.0 | 15:19 |
| bknudson | I didn't have a clone of ceilometermiddleware | 15:19 |
| gordc | bknudson: dammit | 15:19 |
| gordc | bknudson: yeah i guess there's only one middleawre in the lib and it uses oslo.messaging | 15:19 |
| gordc | it'll probably always use oslo.messaging since everything we do relies on MQ | 15:20 |
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| bknudson | nothing has ceilometermiddleware in requirements or test-requirements | 15:20 |
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| gordc | bknudson: nope. it's really only for swift right now... and nothing non-core gets into swift | 15:21 |
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| mriedem | bknudson: were you saying ceilometermiddleware or keystonemiddleware required oslo.middleware? b/c i don't see that | 15:25 |
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| bknudson | mriedem: keystonemiddleware has oslo.messaging in test-requirements. | 15:27 |
| bknudson | are we also concerned about oslo.middleware? | 15:27 |
| mriedem | yeah, i just care about oslo.middleware, since that's what we're talking about capping | 15:27 |
| mriedem | heh, yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255245/ | 15:27 |
| mriedem | capping oslo.messaging is a thought exercise | 15:27 |
| dims | mriedem : if you ask me, we just should do <3 for all oslo libs for liberty | 15:28 |
| bknudson | I <3 capping. | 15:28 |
| dims | that was unintended :) | 15:28 |
| dims | < 3 | 15:28 |
| dims | :) | 15:28 |
| bknudson | keystonemiddleware has no use for oslo.middleware | 15:29 |
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| dims | mriedem : official reason would be we are dropping python 2.6 support above 3 | 15:30 |
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| mriedem | dims: well, we didn't support py26 in the server projects in stable/liberty anyway | 15:32 |
| mriedem | but yeah, any client in stable/liberty that supported py26 and picks up uncapped oslo>=3 would be busted on py26 | 15:33 |
| mriedem | we just don't know about it since we test py27 in the stable periodic jobs, and the server projects don't test py26 in liberty | 15:33 |
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| mriedem | sdague: so if you update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255245/ to add a note in g-r.txt about why oslo.middleware is capped at <3, i'm +2 | 15:58 |
| mriedem | i think we have a rule somewhere in the requirements readme about adding notes in g-r when blacklisting or capping things | 15:58 |
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| mriedem | or i can just do it myself i guess | 15:59 |
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| sdague | mriedem: ok, cool, I'll circle in a few. I'm looking at logs on this multinode fail right now | 15:59 |
| mriedem | sdague: i'll update it, np | 15:59 |
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| stevemar | all hail mriedem - our new stable overlord | 18:21 |
| stevemar | as opposed to all of those unstable ones | 18:21 |
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| mriedem | god | 18:22 |
| mriedem | sort this out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255245/ | 18:22 |
| sdague | I totally want to be "unstable PTL" | 18:22 |
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| mriedem | lifeless: ^ you make a good point there | 18:22 |
| mriedem | sdague: ^ | 18:22 |
| mriedem | ooo no comments in the upper-constraints.txt file huh? http://logs.openstack.org/45/255245/2/check/gate-requirements-tox-validate/665bdf2/console.html#_2015-12-09_16_21_55_420 | 18:23 |
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| sdague | mriedem: apparently | 18:23 |
| mriedem | i guess we couldn't just strip those out.. | 18:23 |
| mriedem | oh wait, the test is looking for <= | 18:24 |
| mriedem | or something | 18:24 |
| mriedem | but it's not ignoring comments | 18:24 |
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| mriedem | i'll remove the comment and fix that separately | 18:24 |
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| sdague | lifeless: so, that's fine, upper-constraints.txt will never update until that's added | 18:26 |
| sdague | because grenade is correctly blocking the update | 18:26 |
| sdague | as it fails | 18:26 |
| sdague | I'm also ok with upper-constraints.txt for liberty being permanently frozen | 18:27 |
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| mriedem | sdague: me too | 18:29 |
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| lifeless | mriedem: upper-constraints.txt is machine generated | 18:34 |
| lifeless | mriedem: (but human editable) | 18:34 |
| lifeless | mriedem: sdague: I'm still in feed-the-child mode, I can't really stop and think for another 90m or so | 18:35 |
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| mriedem | that's fine, i don't want to fix this anyway now | 18:36 |
| mriedem | moving on | 18:36 |
| sdague | lifeless: yeh, that's fair, consider on your time table | 18:37 |
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| lifeless | sdague: ok so | 19:47 |
| lifeless | sdague: let me check I understand: o.middleware broke compat with liberty. | 19:48 |
| lifeless | sdague: can we restore compat ? | 19:48 |
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| sdague | lifeless: it broke compatibility with liberty code & kilo configs | 19:51 |
| sdague | the 3.0 release was done specifically to drop that compatibility | 19:51 |
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| lifeless | sdague: :( | 19:52 |
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| dulek | dhellmann: hi, quick question on http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/cinder/liberty.html | 20:45 |
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| dulek | dhellmann: If I haven't missed a stable branch release this shows a release not from not-yet-released master | 20:46 |
| dulek | dhellmann: Is this intentional? | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | dulek : the -56 in that version number means "56 commits after the 7.0.0" | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | yes, it's showing unreleased but fixed changes in cinder's liberty branch | 20:47 |
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| dulek | dhellmann: Okay, this seemed a little odd to me at first. Thanks for clarifying. | 20:48 |
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| lifeless | sdague: so if it was deliberately broken, does that mean we can't restore compat? | 21:20 |
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| lifeless | sdague: like, I get it was done on purpose, but I don't understand the implications vis-a-vis fixing it to restore compat until respectively kilo and liberty eol | 21:21 |
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| sdague | lifeless: this is the removal of the oslo.middleware namespace | 21:22 |
| sdague | it is the last oslo.foo namespace removal | 21:22 |
| sdague | it is a thing people wanted to do, which is good | 21:22 |
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| sdague | it just has upgrade implications because the full class names end up in paste.ini | 21:23 |
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| sdague | so are config | 21:23 |
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| sdague | anyway, if you want to ask dims about restoring it and not dropping till liberty eol, that's a thing you could do | 21:27 |
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| lifeless | its an awkward migration we've got here, as we bring in backwards compat testing :/ | 21:28 |
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| lifeless | sdague: I think the best thing I can do is stay out of folks way and work on the testing to avoid this sort of issue in future | 21:30 |
| sdague | right, so if we don't do the cap, we will potentially break people on the upgrade | 21:31 |
| sdague | in the kind of way we've promissed we won't | 21:31 |
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