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artom | Heya | 20:50 |
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artom | I'm working on a few tools that, while technically standalone, might benefit other Designate users/dev. | 20:50 |
artom | Example: a Python script that extracts complete zonefiles from a named.conf (for importing), or a daemon that listens to Central's notifications on the MQ and does stuff. | 20:51 |
artom | Is there a place for them in the official Designate repos? | 20:52 |
artom | In a tools directory, for example? | 20:52 |
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artom | Heh, in *the* tools directory, actually. | 20:52 |
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ekarlso | artom: daemon to listen does what exactly ? | 20:54 |
artom | In our case it sends commands to a NSD slave. | 20:54 |
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artom | But I've tried to make it modular and pluggable and extensible and all that good stuff. | 20:55 |
ekarlso | NSD ? | 20:55 |
artom | http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/nsd/ | 20:55 |
ekarlso | artom: why not just make a backend plugin instead of sending commands ? | 20:56 |
ekarlso | would be the more "apropriate" way | 20:56 |
artom | It only needs commands for zone create and delete. | 20:57 |
artom | Everything else is handled automagically with NOTIFY and AXFR. | 20:57 |
artom | While I agree that a backend would be the more "correct" way, it's a lot of work to reimplement functionality that exists already. | 20:59 |
ekarlso | artom: I guess kiall_ is better to answer this ;p | 21:00 |
ekarlso | I haven't been doing designate for a looong while :p | 21:00 |
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ekarlso | artom: what's better with NSD then other servers ? | 21:04 |
artom | Hehe :) | 21:04 |
artom | I'll submit for review - that way there's a "paper trace" and worst case, it gets shut down. | 21:04 |
ekarlso | :o | 21:04 |
artom | ekarlso, it's supposed to be faster and more secure than BIND. | 21:04 |
ekarlso | artom: but basically i think your stuff should be a plugin | 21:04 |
ekarlso | which you could load in central basically | 21:05 |
ekarlso | meaning agentless | 21:05 |
artom | Hrmm. | 21:05 |
artom | Sounds indeed better than an external daemon. | 21:06 |
artom | Though I haven't really groked how plugins work. | 21:06 |
ekarlso | artom: it's pretty simple... | 21:06 |
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ekarlso | basically a plugin atm at least can be loaded in a agent which receives it's commands from central via rpc | 21:07 |
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ekarlso | or the plugin can be loaded in the central process itself | 21:07 |
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artom | Where are they added/called in central? | 21:09 |
ekarlso | le tme look | 21:11 |
artom | Thanks :) | 21:11 |
artom | Clearly I have to extend Plugin... | 21:13 |
ekarlso | https://github.com/stackforge/designate/blob/master/designate/central/service.py#L49-L50 | 21:14 |
ekarlso | the standard is for central to just load up a RPC driver that does commands to agents | 21:14 |
ekarlso | https://github.com/stackforge/designate/tree/master/designate/backend | 21:14 |
ekarlso | see here for drivers | 21:14 |
artom | Those are just the backends... | 21:15 |
artom | I still want the PowerDNS backend to run. | 21:15 |
ekarlso | ?! | 21:15 |
ekarlso | you want to use 2 diff backends ? | 21:15 |
artom | No no. | 21:16 |
artom | Some context: a requirement for this project I'm on is that Designate and the DNS servers that actually handle queries can't be on the same server. | 21:17 |
ekarlso | write a plugin, have the plugin send commands to the nsd daemons ? | 21:17 |
ekarlso | that's loaded into central | 21:17 |
artom | Well, yes, except NSD doesn't have a 'add record' command, for example. | 21:18 |
artom | If it's a slave for a zone, it uses AXFR. | 21:18 |
artom | So a NSD backend would have to either implement AXFR, or... | 21:19 |
artom | Or do what the BIND backend does now, and write zonefiles and reload the server. | 21:19 |
artom | Except writing zonefiles to a remote NSD server is tricky. | 21:19 |
artom | If not tricky, at least non-trivial. | 21:19 |
artom | If we use the PowerDNS backend, it handles AXFR for us. | 21:20 |
artom | We just need to let the NSD server know of zone additions and deletions, because AXFR doesn't do that. | 21:20 |
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eankutse | "either way the end is near. ;)" LOL :-)! | 22:26 |
eankutse | Sorry - wrong IRC | 22:26 |
ekarlso | eankutse: which end ? :p | 22:27 |
eankutse | Sorry, sorry. I did not mean to be an alarmist :-) | 22:28 |
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