Wednesday, 2013-10-09

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artomkiall_, you around?12:38
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed a change to stackforge/designate: Correct JSONSchemas for min/max TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/5063913:48
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betsykiall: you around?14:49
kiall_betsy: heya14:51
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betsyHi. I was just wondering what prompted the change you made in the json from "min" to "minimum"14:53
betsyAnything in particular?14:53
betsyIt looks good. i was just curious14:54
artomAh, Kiall! If you have scrollback from yesterday, mind reading my questions re submitting some tools I wrote.14:55
artom?14:55
KiallSure .. Just about to join a call, will brb14:55
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Kiallbetsy heya, as it turns out.. We've been accepting negative TTLs past the validations :(15:09
KiallJSON-Schema's minimum validator is "minimum" rather than "min"15:09
betsyAhh. I noticed the case and I was wondering about it. So it does make a difference15:09
betsyNice to know so I don't make the same mistake in the future15:09
KiallYea :)15:09
betsyI'm gonna approve it then15:10
betsyI'm assuming it's read to merge?15:10
betsy*ready"15:10
KiallYep - ready to go :)15:11
Kiallartom: lots and lots of Part/Join scrolback .. Not seeing any Q's from you!15:12
artomhttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fb25zRqh15:14
artomBecause I'm a lazy bugger and I don't feel like re-typing everything ;)15:15
KiallHumm.. I wonder if "contrib" is a better/more traditional name for that kinda stuff?15:16
artomSure.15:16
artomI don't really care what it's called, just wondering if there's a place for it upstream.15:16
KiallI think a "contrib" folder works15:17
artomOk, I can submit for review then/15:18
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/designate: Correct JSONSchemas for min/max TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/5063915:29
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KiallHey guys, We've been pretty full on with ops work the last week or so, not much "new" to share at the meet :(. I'm thinking we pass?16:30
artomAcquiescence through silence.16:44
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Kiallvinodmr: C+P from earlier .. <Kiall> Hey guys, We've been pretty full on with ops work the last week or so, not much "new" to share at the meet :(. I'm thinking we pass?16:51
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vinodmrSure that should be fine16:52
eankutseThat works16:52
eankutseI do have a question for mugsie on serial numbers16:52
Kiallcool - He's sitting on the other side of the table to me.. Ask away ;)16:53
mugsieeankutse: hey16:53
mugsieshoot16:53
eankutseis there any way to make the generation of serial numbers configurable to an installation16:53
eankutsesay, you seed the function in some way16:54
eankutseand then generate based on that16:54
mugsienot currently...16:54
mugsiewhow would you see it being used?16:54
eankutsethis could allow use of epoc time by some installation16:54
eankutsewe use epoc time of the last mod when we generate bind9 files16:55
mugsieyeah, we needed a incrementing number for the async pools stuff, and we were planning to use the serial16:56
mugsiebut if people need that to be a certain format, we can look at adding a new column on the domains table in the db16:56
mugsiewe can look at creating a congif option for it16:57
mugsieconfig*16:57
eankutsefor the number of the async pools, is it necessary to tie it to serial numbers?16:57
mugsieno, we can add another column, I just thought it was a nice way fo doing it16:58
mugsiebut  didnt consider that people might need a certain format16:58
eankutseok. Thx.16:58
mugsieI can adjust the current method back to how we did it (YYYYMMDDHHMM<num>)16:59
mugsieand then we can log a blueprint for the plugable serail numbers (if that suits)16:59
eankutseactually, that would not scale as well as epoc time like so..16:59
eankutsenow  =  datetime.datetime.now()16:59
eankutseseed =  calendar.timegm(now.utctimetuple())16:59
eankutsewhere seed is just a var17:00
eankutsenot necesarily the starting point17:00
mugsieyeah, I wont add that into the server-pools blueprint17:00
mugsie /work17:00
eankutsethx17:01
mugsieI will log that bluwbrint, and we can have a disscusion on that in there....17:01
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eankutsecool17:01
mugsiehave you read throught the rest of the change?17:01
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eankutseMost of it.17:02
eankutseI hope to wrap up today17:02
eankutseI am trying to read it in the order in which things will be called17:03
eankutseso I fetched the code17:03
eankutseand moved to the HEAD17:03
eankutseand trying to step through it17:03
mugsiecool17:05
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mugsieeankutse: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/plugable-serial-number-format17:06
mugsieadd comments to that wiki page :)17:07
eankutsewill do. Thx17:07
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed a change to stackforge/designate: Contributing standalone tools  https://review.openstack.org/5069017:38
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed a change to stackforge/designate: Contributing standalone tools  https://review.openstack.org/5069017:47
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artommugsie, designate-nsd-glue?17:57
artomOr something more punny, like nsdesignate, or designsd? ;)18:02
artomI suck at names :(18:02
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mugsieartom: designate-nsd- something19:58
mugsiethat sounds good19:58
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artomBleah, it might not even stick around.19:58
artomTalked with Chmouel (he's our lead dev here), and we revisited the "Why not just make a backend" debate...19:59
mugsiewhen the pools hit, it could be part of a backend easy enough19:59
artomHe mentioned Nova just SCPs files to remove hosts.20:00
mugsieit would get all those events20:00
mugsiereally?20:00
artomAnd getting zonefiles to NSD was one of the reasons on why a backend was not initially chosen.20:00
artomRemote hosts, sorry.20:01
mugsieah20:01
artomYeah, lethal typo ;)20:01
mugsiehave a look at how the bavkend work, there is skeleton ones there20:01
artomYou mentioned "when pools hit"...20:01
artomIs there something that would prevent a NSD backend now?20:02
mugsieyeah, i am waiting for feedback20:02
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mugsienope20:02
mugsieactually, its fibe now20:02
mugsieit still gets the events20:03
artomIt = designatehooks?20:03
mugsieno backebds20:04
mugsiebackends*20:04
mugsiei think the hooks could be useful in a more generic style though20:06
artomWell, I tried to keep them handler-agnostic.20:07
artomSomeone can code a new Handler and do whatever they want in handle().20:07
artomAha, it crystalized why we went the hooks route!20:11
artomThe whole point of NSD is for Designate to hide in an intranet somewhere, and NSD is exposed, handling queries.20:11
artomIt's Not A Good Thing to reload NSD upon every modification.20:14
artomAnd even with NSD4's remote control, that's still reloading every time.20:16
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artomSorry, I'm using this channel as my rubber duck.20:16
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mugsieno problem..  that does make sense20:23
mugsieyou could put some of that logic in the backend...20:23
mugsiebut the phase 2 of server pools would help that20:24
mugsieyou could send tge update, and when you do a periodic reload, mark it as active20:24
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