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| mugsie | are people up for doing a google hangout for the discussion on the abstracts? | 16:32 |
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| eankutse | sure | 16:33 |
| richm | yes | 16:41 |
| artom | Random talk idea (somewhat related to my, err, tribulations in getting Designate traction internally): demonstrate the problem that it solves. | 16:44 |
| artom | Not "Here's what it can do" but "Here's how much harder/more complex/more annoying it is without Designate" | 16:44 |
| mugsie | artom: thats a good idea | 16:45 |
| mugsie | for talk 2 especially | 16:45 |
| mugsie | (adding record automatically etc) | 16:45 |
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| betsy | Are y'all doing the discussion here or in google hangouts? I was going to listen in | 16:48 |
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| eankutse | mugsie: my google id is eankutse | 16:54 |
| mugsie | not sure, whatever peopl think | 16:54 |
| mugsie | brb | 16:54 |
| eankutse | k | 16:55 |
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| jmcbride | I'm down with whichever (IRC/hangout) | 16:57 |
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| jmcbride | artom: +1 | 16:58 |
| mugsie | right... whos here? | 17:01 |
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| rjrjr | here | 17:02 |
| richm | here | 17:02 |
| mugsie | whats peoples preference, hongout / irc ? I can do either | 17:02 |
| mugsie | hangout* | 17:02 |
| rjrjr | hangout | 17:02 |
| richm | no preference | 17:02 |
| mugsie | ok, going with hangout | 17:03 |
| eankutse | cool | 17:04 |
| mugsie | did everyone get that invite? | 17:05 |
| richm | no | 17:05 |
| richm | do I need to add you to my circles? | 17:06 |
| mugsie | richm: nope... just need an email for ya | 17:06 |
| eankutse | no | 17:06 |
| richm | rmeggins@redhat.com or rich.megginson@gmail.com | 17:06 |
| mugsie | eankutse: wahts your gmail? | 17:07 |
| eankutse | eankutse@gmail.com | 17:07 |
| mugsie | re sent the invite | 17:08 |
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| eankutse | got it. thx | 17:09 |
| eankutse | mugsie: you see me on there? | 17:11 |
| kiall | Moved to conf room - connectivity issues :/ | 17:11 |
| mugsie | eankutse: cant see you | 17:16 |
| eankutse | k. I'll keep trying | 17:17 |
| eankutse | but maybe you all can start | 17:18 |
| eankutse | without me | 17:18 |
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| eankutse | mugsie: In abstract 1 | 17:37 |
| eankutse | should we hyphenate "DNS as a service" ==> DNS-as-a-service | 17:37 |
| eankutse | ? | 17:37 |
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| mugsie | eh... i think it is ok with spaces | 17:39 |
| mugsie | It looks a bit wierd with hyphens | 17:39 |
| eankutse | k | 17:39 |
| mugsie | we are editing the workshop atm, if you want to have a look | 17:40 |
| eankutse | k | 17:41 |
| richm | eankutse: in case you need the link - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Atlanta/Workshop_1 | 17:42 |
| eankutse | thx | 17:43 |
| vinod | after finishing revising the abstracts - who will be submitting the abstracts to openstack - http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-atlanta-2014/call-for-speakers/ | 17:44 |
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| richm | Rich Megginson rmeggins@redhat.com IRC:richm | 17:49 |
| jmcbride | Joe McBride, Rackspace (IRC:jmcbride, twitter:mejoe, email:jmcbride@rackspace.com) | 17:49 |
| richm | Red Hat | 17:49 |
| jmcbride | vinod: kiall is submitting workshop, I'm submitting talk 1, Graham is submitting talk 2 | 17:50 |
| kiall | richm / jmcbride / anyone else involved in the workshop.. "Speaker's Title" title (i.e. Job Title, or whatever you want to call yourself..) | 17:51 |
| richm | Software Engineer | 17:51 |
| mugsie | rjrjr: what details you want in your info? | 17:52 |
| kiall | jmcbride: Job Title - something like "Cloud DNS Development Manager @ RackSpace" ? | 17:53 |
| rjrjr | Cloud Engineer - Ebay Inc. | 17:53 |
| kiall | I put down | 17:53 |
| kiall | Cloud DNS Technical Lead @ HP Cloud for me, Software Engineer @ Red Hat for Rick | 17:53 |
| jmcbride | kiall: sounds good. | 17:53 |
| richm | yes | 17:54 |
| vinod | Software Developer @ Rackspace | 17:56 |
| kiall | rjrjr: email address? | 17:56 |
| kiall | vinod: email address? | 17:57 |
| vinod | vinod.mang@rackspace.com | 17:58 |
| kiall | Also.. Is it RackSpace or Rackspace ? | 17:59 |
| rjrjr | rrickard@ebaysf.com | 17:59 |
| kiall | small s .. fixed | 17:59 |
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| kiall | Okay.. For Workshop, I've got these names so far: http://s3.amazonaws.com/awesome_screenshot/3947370?AWSAccessKeyId=0R7FMW7AXRVCYMAPTPR2&Expires=1392314711&Signature=r0XdiXH3rynlf0Xj8I849agbq4A%3D | 18:01 |
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| kiall | (99% sure this is editable after ..) | 18:01 |
| kiall | Any other names I should add/remove? | 18:01 |
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| kiall | brb | 18:02 |
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| jmcbride | Rackspace | 18:07 |
| jmcbride | kiall: the s3 link you provided gave me an access denied error. | 18:08 |
| kiall | grr.. expired | 18:10 |
| kiall | me, rich, joe, graham, ron, vinod | 18:10 |
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| eankutse | Kiall: regarding miniDNS POC | 18:20 |
| eankutse | can we sync up in one hour? | 18:20 |
| eankutse | around 19:30 UTC? | 18:20 |
| mugsie | eankutse: he has just left the office | 18:25 |
| artom | Huh, looks like we hired one of you HP dudes. | 18:29 |
| artom | Sandro... | 18:30 |
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| betsy | Hey guys - I wrote up my notes from meeting with Anne re her thoughts on Designate incubation and put them on the wiki here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Incubation_Discussion/Feb.10.2014 | 19:38 |
| eankutse | Betsy: good info & feedback. Thx | 19:46 |
| artom | Conclusion seems to be: ask after Icehouse... | 19:48 |
| betsy | Yep, but probably not until we get v2 completely finished | 19:50 |
| betsy | It was kind of "the sooner the better" as the line is getting long | 19:50 |
| artom | Eh? I understood it as "As long as you let everyone know it's coming, you can incubate sooner" | 19:51 |
| betsy | Right. Don't wait until v2 is finished | 19:51 |
| artom | OpenStack projects seem to be changing API versions like underwear, so I figured it shouldn't be a problem ;) | 19:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed a change to stackforge/designate: Update notification_driver documentation https://review.openstack.org/73395 | 20:22 |
| mugsie | artom: that is the best description I have heard in a while | 20:28 |
| artom | mugsie, i's fairly common around here :) | 20:29 |
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| artom | "Aussi souvent qu'on change de bobettes" in French :) | 20:32 |
| harmw | ERROR [designate.api.middleware] Unknown backend failure: OSError(13, 'Permission denied') | 20:35 |
| harmw | is that something with rabbitmq or bind9 ? | 20:36 |
| harmw | (I'm trying to create my first domain btw) | 20:36 |
| artom | If you're using the bind backend, it looks like it doens't have permissions to some files... | 20:37 |
| artom | I would say to make sure the user Designate is running as has write permissions to the BIND zonefiles directory... | 20:38 |
| harmw | ok, thanks | 20:39 |
| harmw | lets see | 20:39 |
| artom | I forget how that directory is defined tough :S | 20:39 |
| harmw | np, as long as I know its a bind9 thing :) | 20:39 |
| artom | Yeah ok, it's the bind9 directory in the state_patch folder. | 20:40 |
| artom | *path | 20:40 |
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| harmw | oh ok | 20:41 |
| artom | Also, the designate log should have the full stacktrace (you may need to turn on debugging), that should tell you the exact line of code that's failing. | 20:42 |
| tsimmons | It may be failing on an rndc calls, i got a lot of permission errors doing that originally | 20:43 |
| harmw | my var/lib/designate folder is empty... | 20:43 |
| harmw | i've verified rndc working ok by using su - designate -s /bin/bash -c "rndc status" | 20:44 |
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| harmw | ah, not settings an explicit value for state_path left me with DEBUG [designate.backend.impl_bind9] output_folder: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/bind9 | 21:23 |
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| harmw | and thats obviously a problem :) | 21:23 |
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| artom | Hrmm, that could actually be a bug... | 21:25 |
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| artom | There should probably be a sane default value... | 21:25 |
| harmw | well, I havent checked with trunk | 21:25 |
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| harmw | thats true, ofcourse | 21:26 |
| tsimmons | I was under the impression that state_path was set by default... | 21:27 |
| artom | https://github.com/stackforge/designate/blob/master/designate/__init__.py#L32 | 21:28 |
| artom | Apparently not. | 21:28 |
| artom | Oh wait. | 21:28 |
| tsimmons | http://designate.readthedocs.org/en/latest/configuration.html | 21:29 |
| tsimmons | This says 'currentdir' | 21:29 |
| tsimmons | Which would make sense with $pybasedir | 21:30 |
| harmw | indeed, but even then it's of no good | 21:30 |
| artom | It ends up being wherever Designate is installed... | 21:31 |
| tsimmons | But why not just set the state_path in the config file? | 21:31 |
| artom | Which is indeed weird for real-word situations. | 21:31 |
| harmw | true tsimmons , but things should work with some sane default | 21:32 |
| tsimmons | Oh wait are we you talking about for bind zone files? | 21:32 |
| harmw | the code is specifying output_folder per the above | 21:33 |
| harmw | which fails, since doing (writing) anything under /usr/lib/python/bla is not desirable | 21:33 |
| artom | Not unless you're root, and definitely not to keep the state of a running daemon. | 21:34 |
| harmw | keeping state in /usr/lib/? | 21:34 |
| artom | Yeah. | 21:34 |
| tsimmons | Oh did you install with the packages? And that's where it's trying to put zone files? | 21:34 |
| harmw | yes tsimmons | 21:34 |
| tsimmons | OHHH | 21:34 |
| harmw | I'm running as user designate btw | 21:35 |
| tsimmons | I'm here now. Sorry guys. | 21:35 |
| tsimmons | Jesus. | 21:35 |
| artom | tsimmons, welcome back, we missed you ;) | 21:35 |
| harmw | anyway, I've just set a state_path of /data/bla with proper permissions and it works :) | 21:35 |
| tsimmons | Ok yeah the bind9 zone files directory goes under state | 21:35 |
| tsimmons | state_path because kiall wanted to keep it under the designate root directory. | 21:35 |
| tsimmons | The zone files directory, I mean. | 21:36 |
| harmw | but that should be somewhere below /var then, not /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ | 21:36 |
| harmw | rndc now fails: sudo: sorry, you must have a tty to run sudo | 21:37 |
| harmw | though thats an easy fixable issue | 21:37 |
| tsimmons | Yeah in the case that its installed via the package and puts zone files in there instead of in /var/ that's a problem. For sure. | 21:38 |
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| artom | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1279989 | 21:40 |
| artom | Thanks harmw :) | 21:41 |
| harmw | meh, taking my points :( | 21:41 |
| harmw | or karma | 21:41 |
| harmw | whatever :) | 21:41 |
| artom | Aww, didn't mean to. Should I delete? | 21:41 |
| artom | (Can I even delete?) | 21:42 |
| harmw | haha | 21:42 |
| artom | I'll let you submit the fix if you want :) | 21:42 |
| harmw | don't know, actually | 21:42 |
| harmw | nope, I only submit patches for bugs a create myself :p | 21:43 |
| artom | Haha - it's been a slow afternoon at work, and I felt like doing something productive. While debate was raging here, I ninja-ed the bug report ;) | 21:43 |
| mugsie | harmw: if you create a bug, I will mark artom as a duplicate of yours ;) | 21:43 |
| harmw | haha | 21:44 |
| harmw | lol | 21:44 |
| mugsie | artom's * | 21:44 |
| tsimmons | haha burn. | 21:44 |
| harmw | +1 on that | 21:44 |
| mugsie | cant have karma being robbed ;) | 21:44 |
| artom | That'll be a first - an earlier bug is a duplicate of a later one. | 21:44 |
| harmw | afternoon? you guys are west coast? | 21:44 |
| artom | The mind boggles :D | 21:44 |
| mugsie | harmw: I am GMT ;) | 21:45 |
| artom | I'm EST - the only one here on EST AFAIK. | 21:45 |
| tsimmons | CST :) | 21:45 |
| harmw | ah :) | 21:45 |
| harmw | 22:45 here | 21:45 |
| harmw | a lot easier then thinking about timezones :p | 21:45 |
| mugsie | so your the same as ekarlso | 21:46 |
| artom | I've classified you as German, because that's the first country I found that matches. | 21:46 |
| harmw | fail | 21:46 |
| artom | Too late, already classified. | 21:46 |
| harmw | interesting way of classifying | 21:47 |
| mugsie | harmw: dutch? | 21:47 |
| harmw | damn right :) | 21:47 |
| mugsie | good old whois :D | 21:47 |
| tsimmons | I was going to guess Nigeria | 21:47 |
| harmw | :p | 21:48 |
| * artom reclassifies for the funny. | 21:48 | |
| mugsie | harmw: you looking at using designate in production? | 21:50 |
| harmw | yea, mainly to have instances and rdns in a zone | 21:51 |
| mugsie | cool | 21:51 |
| harmw | regarding rdns, I noticed some .arpa. in blacklist regex - any reason for that? (haven't checked it though) | 21:52 |
| mugsie | not really... just was one of the defaults we added as an example | 21:53 |
| betsy | Yeah. it's just an example | 21:53 |
| harmw | ah, so out of the box its impossible to create and rdns zone :p | 21:53 |
| mugsie | if you are using the neutron stuff, it won't matter | 21:53 |
| mugsie | oh, your using packages? - that wont be there yet | 21:53 |
| betsy | I recently removed it from the config file | 21:53 |
| betsy | You may be looking at an older version | 21:53 |
| harmw | btw, I also notice my sql password beeing logged to file | 21:54 |
| harmw | betsy: I am indeed, 2013.2 | 21:54 |
| mugsie | harmw: really? | 21:54 |
| mugsie | hum... log that as a security bug | 21:54 |
| artom | harmw, quickly, explain where and how so I can submit a bug report ;) | 21:54 |
| mugsie | :D | 21:54 |
| harmw | :> | 21:54 |
| tsimmons | hahaha | 21:54 |
| betsy | harmw: Yeah. Some changes to blacklist just got merged in this week | 21:54 |
| harmw | 2014-02-13 22:28:28 DEBUG [designate.openstack.common.service] storage:sqlalchemy.database_connection = mysql://designate:mypassword@bla | 21:54 |
| harmw | while booting up the central service | 21:54 |
| betsy | Never seen people fighting over getting to fix bugs before. :) | 21:55 |
| betsy | Fighting over who HAS to fix them, yets | 21:55 |
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| betsy | *yes | 21:55 |
| harmw | mugsie: should I file this as a security issue? | 21:57 |
| mugsie | yeah, i think so | 21:59 |
| mugsie | do it, and if its not, it is still a bug | 21:59 |
| mugsie | so we can convert it back if we want | 21:59 |
| harmw | security bugs have better karma, so to make up for the points I've lost earlier (yes you artom) :> | 22:00 |
| harmw | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1280001 | 22:00 |
| harmw | cool, a public disclosure option | 22:00 |
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| harmw | mugsie: which packages where you refering to? I've built my own rpms from the available sources, plus some patches to play nice on CentOS/RDO | 22:04 |
| mugsie | oh... sorry, I though you were using pre build havana debs ;) | 22:05 |
| mugsie | forgot you ewere on centos | 22:05 |
| harmw | ah | 22:05 |
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| jammer4774 | can anyone point a dns/dhcp beginner to a howto or give a lil help? I'm trying to get dhcp to talk to dns. forward lookups work, reverse give error: host 192.168.1.10 | 22:21 |
| jammer4774 | 10.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa has no PTR record | 22:21 |
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