Thursday, 2017-06-22

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openstackgerritlan proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Enable some off-by-default checks  https://review.openstack.org/47630802:04
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warlord77asettle , Hi05:20
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warlord77asettle, can i help out in migration of documentation ?05:45
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asettlewarlord77: heya09:02
asettleYou can help out in the migration, if you'd like :)09:02
asettleHave you had a chance to look through and review the specification to understand what we are trying to achieve?09:02
asettlehttps://review.openstack.org/47227509:02
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chasonasettle: Hi Alex09:12
chasonasettle: one question09:12
chasonasettle: about Networking Guide migration09:13
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chasonasettle: Is it enough to migrate just Ocata branch of Networking Guide and Ignore the Master branch?09:14
chason*ignore09:15
asettlechason: hey hey09:16
asettleI did think about that09:16
chasonasettle: OK09:16
asettleI would say yes, for now.09:16
asettleBut we do have to ensure that even though the patch is blocked, before that stuff is migrated out we merge it.09:17
chasonasettle: To the Ocata branch of Neutron project?09:17
asettleYes :)09:17
asettleWait, no09:17
asettleTo the master branch of the Neutron project09:17
asettleBecause we merged the change into the networking guide into ocata already09:17
chasonGet it!09:18
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chasonasettle: Is it time for us to do this migration?09:38
chasonasettle: Or I just need wait still?09:39
asettlechason: parts of it are already happening. As the spec said, the project teams are in charge of migrating their own docs to their repo09:39
asettleWe are looking after what is happening in the openstack-manuals repo09:39
asettlehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking09:40
asettleIf you scroll down to our docs09:40
asettleYou will see "TODO" items09:40
asettleAny of those items that haven't already been undertaken by dhellmann you are welcome to start09:40
asettlehttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-manuals+branch:master+topic:doc-migration09:40
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chasonasettle: I see.09:44
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warlord77asettle:is there any place where i can help out in migration ?10:13
asettlewarlord77: what I said to Chason above is where I recommend you start :)10:14
asettleHave a look through the list, ensure you read the spec to make sure you understand what is happening, and then dive in10:14
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warlord77asettle:all the things in this list has to be done by docs team ?10:21
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asettlewarlord77: no, so, as i said, read the specification I linked to you above. This one: https://review.openstack.org/47227510:21
asettleThis will tell you that the project teams are responsible for their documentation migration10:22
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/47647111:14
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/47647311:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/47647312:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/47647112:19
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dhellmannasettle : o/12:56
asettleMorning dhellmann !12:57
asettleLook at you, sleeping in12:57
dhellmannmeeting cancelled!12:57
dhellmannwoot12:57
asettleWhaaaat12:57
asettleOutrageous12:57
* dhellmann has learned not to ask questions12:58
asettleCompletely agree12:58
asettleCarryo on12:58
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asettledhellmann or annegentle now you're both here13:00
asettleCould you one of you do me a favour and review this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475555/13:00
annegentleo/13:00
asettleWe've been deprecated to the 'free' google search, so we have ads13:00
dhellmannlooking13:00
asettleWould like to remove asap13:00
annegentleasettle we'll also need a release of the theme13:01
asettleannegentle: we do, we do13:01
dhellmannasettle, annegentle : speaking of search, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476262/ will redirect docs.o.o/search to the searchlight project docs. dunno if that's what we want for service-type redirects.13:01
asettleannegentle: do you want to wait for this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468021/13:02
annegentleasettle nah13:02
asettleIt'd be good to only have to do one release, but if you need more time...13:02
asettleOkay.13:02
asettleRELEASE THE KRAKEN13:02
annegentleasettle I was out sick yesterday and feeling ughhhhh today13:02
asettleannegentle: oh no :( rest up yo13:02
annegentleasettle so no way I can it all done, heh13:02
annegentleone release is fine13:03
asettleIs pkovar around? :) I wonder if he'd like to get started as release manager and learn some fun things... :P13:03
annegentleasettle and, it'll get rid of the 404 bug13:03
annegentleasettle good thinking13:03
asettleannegentle: true dat13:03
annegentleasettle always nice to practice13:03
asettlePreciselyyy ;)13:03
asettleannegentle: do we have release instructions for the theme?13:03
asettleOther than: https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/release/release-tools.html13:04
annegentledhellmann well... it's okay since we never had a search landing13:04
annegentleasettle same, same, ayup13:04
dhellmannannegentle : ok, just wanted to highlight that one because it jumped out at me as odd13:04
asettleannegentle: that's it, huh?13:04
annegentledhellmann yeah, but there's going to be plenty of real world use13:04
dhellmannok, wfm13:04
annegentledhellmann funny that /search 404s today13:05
dhellmannannegentle : how do you search for a search page?!13:06
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annegentledhellmann heh, uhh...13:08
dhellmannasettle : what are your thoughts on how long to wait to approve the migration spec and balancing the need to have publicity with the desire to start the move?13:08
dhellmannannegentle : sorry, it's too early in the morning for philosophy13:08
asettledhellmann: hmm good question13:08
asettleOn one hand, we need to get started asap. On the other hand, we really need to make sure people know and understand what is about to happen and how this affects them.13:09
asettleBut, we have emailed, and emailed, and I don't know how much more we can make it clear. The spec has been up for a few weeks.13:09
asettleSo, how much more publicity would you think is required?13:09
asettleWhat is 'adequate' publicity?13:09
asettleDo we have any guidelines on that for major changes?13:10
annegentledhellmann docs.openstack.org/cats also 404s13:10
annegentleasettle I think we approve it13:10
annegentleasettle I almost did yesterday13:10
annegentleasettle it's fine, it's already more than adequate13:11
asettleannegentle: I'm happy for you to do so. That's a lot of +1s, we're on the final iteration13:11
asettleWe might as well press the button at some point or we'll end up debating hte meaning of life at some point13:11
annegentleasettle ok cool. I figured you probably didn't want to self-approve13:11
annegentleyep13:11
dhellmannasettle, annegentle : I was going to suggest early next week, but don't let me hold you back :-)13:11
annegentledhellmann heh13:11
asettleannegentle: yeah that'd look a bit tacky :p13:11
asettledhellmann: we are movers and shakers13:11
annegentledhellmann definitely before first week of July hits in the stats13:11
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annegentlestates I mean13:11
asettleannegentle: actually that's a seriously good point13:11
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asettleMERGE NOW13:11
dhellmannoh, good point, I wasn't thinking about what next week was13:11
asettleWHILE I HAVE PEOPLE13:12
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annegentleasettle can be Monday, that's fine13:12
asettleHow about we give it until COB Friday?13:12
asettleClose it out for the week13:12
annegentleasettle that's cool, dhellmann get your +1 on there! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275 :)13:12
dhellmanndone13:13
asettleannegentle: ace13:13
asettlenice dhellmann :D13:13
asettle24 hours for people to spit chips13:13
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pkovarasettle: i'm around :)13:23
asettlepkovar: hi pal!13:23
asettleWanna get hands on?13:23
pkovarasettle: sure thing. is this about doing a release?13:25
asettleHaha yep.13:25
pkovar/me is new to this13:25
asettleOnce this is merged into the source code https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475555/13:25
asettleWe need a openstackdocstheme release :)13:25
asettlev13:25
asettlehttps://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/release/release-tools.html13:25
asettleGood copy paste, Alex13:25
asettleYou're a star.13:25
pkovarasettle: okay. is there an example gerrit review i could use?13:26
asettleGood question13:27
asettleUno momento por favor13:27
asettlehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/448891/13:28
pkovarasettle: great, thank you. that change seems pretty straightforward13:31
asettlepkovar: should be :)13:31
asettle(er, if it's not, I"m not here)13:31
pkovarhaha13:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update Site Search  https://review.openstack.org/47555513:31
asettleOkay!13:31
asettleIt's merged13:31
asettle^13:31
pkovarokay, let me try!13:32
asettle\o/ go go go13:32
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dhellmannasettle : you should have just received an email I sent to all ptls about the spec13:37
asettledhellmann: lgtm!13:38
dhellmannpkovar : have a look at the readme in the releases repo, there are some tools there to make the process easy, too. I usually do something like "tox -e venv -- new-release pike my-project bugfix"13:38
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pkovarasettle: dhellmann: does this look good to you?13:59
pkovarhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/476525/13:59
dhellmannpkovar : looks good, let's see what the bots have to say13:59
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pkovardhellmann: is my understanding correct in that i only need to update that yaml file?14:01
pkovareverything else is done by the release team?14:01
dhellmannpkovar : that's right. keep an eye on the review in case there are comments, but otherwise when the patch is approved the infra systems will do the release14:03
pkovarcool14:03
asettlepkovar: sweet as :)14:03
asettlelgtm14:03
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pkovarasettle: the readme says i need your +1 :)14:05
asettlepkovar: it's cause i'm powerful and important14:05
asettle(and an imposter, help)14:05
asettle+1 for you14:05
pkovarmuch appreciated :)14:06
asettleHappy to assist14:06
asettleThanks for diving in :)14:06
openstackgerritPetr Kovar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [contributor] Point to example review for new package release  https://review.openstack.org/47653614:27
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dhellmannpkovar : if you're the liaison, just put your name on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons and you won't need asettle to +114:41
asettledhellmann: not quite the same thing :)14:42
dhellmann?14:42
asettledhellmann: pkovar is our release manager for this cycle.14:42
asettleWhich, we change up, each release.14:42
dhellmannright, if he's the liaison to the release team we don't need you to +1 releases that he submits14:42
asettleAH sorry sorry14:42
asettleYou're right14:42
asettleI misread that entirely14:43
dhellmannliaisoning the other way14:43
dhellmannpkovar : now you just need to remove the WIP :-)14:43
pkovardhellmann: will do :)14:43
pkovarasettle: so i guess i will add my name to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Release_management14:43
asettlepkovar: please do :) ignore me before, i'm a looney14:44
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pkovarnw :)14:47
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dhellmannpkovar : that release is approved. if you could set up your irc client to join #openstack-release that will help make sure the release team can reach you for urgent decisions14:54
asettledhellmann: you sure know how to rock up a crowd on a spec14:55
asettleJeez14:55
asettleSo popular14:55
dhellmannsome teams wanted to rip it out to avoid confusion, but I expect it to linger for a while14:55
pkovardhellmann: done. and thanks14:56
dhellmannoops, wrong window14:56
asettledhellmann: oh now we know how you really feel :p14:56
dhellmannheh, no, that was about something completely unrelated14:56
dhellmannbut yeah, emailing the ptls directly on a thursday seems to be the magic trick14:56
asettledhellmann: yeah dang.14:58
* asettle writes that down14:58
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annegentleI see how to build PDF, but how can I build HTML only locally?15:54
annegentleLooking at https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/docs-builds.html15:55
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sfinucanannegentle: What are you trying to build?16:10
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annegentlesfinucan I can't build PDF on my mac16:10
annegentlesfinucan working on the theme currently16:10
ianychoiannegentle, theorically (sorry for typo) without --pdf should generate just html locallyl...16:10
annegentleianychoi hm, do I need to change tox.ini then?16:10
ianychoiannegentle, for contributor guide?16:11
annegentleianychoi for openstackdocstheme16:11
sfinucanannegentle: I just do 'tox -e build contributor-guide'16:11
sfinucanfor example...16:11
annegentleI'll compare to the openstack-manuals tox.ini16:11
sfinucanohh, I get you now16:11
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sfinucanfor openstackdocstheme it looks like you need 'tox -e docs'?16:12
ianychoiannegentle, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/tools/build-all-rst.sh#n30 this line should be related with build16:12
annegentlesfinucan right, but now the openstackdocstheme tox.ini contains a make command in the docs enviro16:12
annegentleianychoi yeah the openstackdocstheme doesn't have those scripts... I'll adjust16:13
ianychoiannegentle, thanks a lot for this. Actually I was confused with adjusting between checkbuild, docs, and publishdocs builds in Jenkins and I discussed it with Andreas yesterday to deal with openstackthemes pdf build16:14
sfinucanOut of curiosity, why do we even need pdf? Do folks use it?16:14
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ianychoiannegentle, and I think importing openstack-doc-tools for both index and pdf in landing page for Jenkins would be helpful but I am not sure whether this idea would be good or not16:15
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ianychoisfinucan, pdf build was implemented with the rationale: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/ocata/build-pdf-from-rst-guides.html16:16
sfinucanianychoi: Aha, thanks for the context :)16:17
ianychoisfinucan, no problem :)16:18
AJaegerhow are we going to handle PDF builds with the new spec, asettle and dhellmann? I think we loose that with the split manuals, won't we?16:19
asettleAJaeger: we do indee.d16:19
asettleAJaeger: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-future-problems16:19
asettleSee point 316:20
asettleIn essence, no plan.16:21
asettleI wonder if we can integrate the PDF build to happen after the collective build16:21
ianychoiNo plan.... :) haha asettle sorry for following up for me slowly16:21
AJaegerasettle: understood16:27
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dhellmannAJaeger, asettle : yeah, we need to add pdf to the regular jobs. We can, I think, tell pbr which builders to use but I need to investigate more16:42
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openstackgerritEric Berglund proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [WIP] Add PowerVM compute driver config reference  https://review.openstack.org/47663617:17
openstackgerritEric Berglund proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [WIP] Add PowerVM compute driver config reference  https://review.openstack.org/47663617:18
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Working on integrating options from oslosphinx theme  https://review.openstack.org/46802118:04
setuidasettle: You about? Weird issue with building the docs on a host behind a proxy. I've cloned the repo, patched it, configured maven for the proxy, it successfully downloads the dependent jars, etc. but then times out trying to pull one of the cinder resources.18:07
setuidI can use curl and pull that resource instantly, but maven seems to time out on it after ~60 seconds18:07
setuiderror pastebin coming in a moment18:08
asettlesetuid: that's weird18:09
asettleContinue18:09
asettlesetuid: are you building master or one of the branches/tags?18:11
setuidasettle: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a79cb2cf/18:13
setuidbuilding from liberty-eol tag18:13
asettleHmm I will say, this is murky ground for me18:13
asettleLemme look18:14
setuidI'll rerun with -e -X18:14
asettleThat's pretty much the same error as yesterday, no? We needed to file a bug for that one and comment out the config ref until we could find the right trace to the cinder tag18:14
setuidNo no, different18:15
setuidI've resolved the issue with upstream referring to stable/liberty, by pointing to specific versions18:15
asettleOh hmm18:16
asettleTo be completely honest, I genuinely have no idea. I've never gone this far :(18:16
asettleAJaeger: are you around?18:16
setuidHad a thought proposed yesterday too, from one of my peers: Using gzip on the resulting html, and serving up Content-Type tar/gzip so they are compresed on local disk, but uncompressed by the browser (back to backend storage savings, that is)18:17
setuidAnother attempt with maven debug enabled: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/54559d32/18:19
setuidCaused by: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out (Connection timed out)18:19
setuidSeems like it's a proxy issue, but I've also added JAVA_FLAGS="-Dhttp.proxyHost=..." etc.18:19
asettleYeah hm, can you get off the host behind the proxy?18:20
setuidNope, no way to get to it without jumping through a jumphost, no way to pull data off of it, or inject data into it18:20
asettleBugger. Okay.18:20
asettleI admit I"m probably no help because I tunnel out of our networks *anything*18:21
setuidI have a local clone on my laptop, same tree + git patch which builds fine, clean, no issues. So it's definitely related to something to do with the proxy.18:21
asettleHmmm I'd say so18:21
setuidYeah, openvpn, ssh tunnels, etc. are all terminated at session connect time18:21
asettleMight be worth checking ask.openstack.org see if anyone else has all managed it18:21
asettleFor real!?18:21
asettleWhy?!18:21
setuidBecause those aren't approved methods to get offsite or into the hosts. It's a very, VERY secure network with lots of proxies and mitm layered in.18:22
asettleWell, kudos for security, but that doesn't help us18:22
asettleHmm18:22
setuidI'll poke around the java forums, may be a way to do this18:22
setuideverything else + shell is correctly configured, but java needs its own snowflake config, apparently18:23
asettleYeah, I'm not your gal in that department :( sorry I can't help further18:23
asettleAnyway, gotta roll and get dinner on the table :)18:23
asettleGood luck!18:23
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setuidAll good, I wouldn't be where I am if I wasn't stubborn and just kept bashing on it until I figured it out :)18:23
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AJaegerasettle: now I am18:52
AJaegerbut no idea on setuid 's problem18:53
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Working on integrating options from oslosphinx theme  https://review.openstack.org/46802119:54
asettleAJaeger: yeah okay, thanks :)19:54
asettleSame19:54
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setuidasettle: Appears there's something subtle and magical between maven and java that do not behave well together, still trying to sort it out22:52
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