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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Simplify conf.py for openstackdocstheme 1.11.0 https://review.openstack.org/477646 | 04:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Updates "Contents" to "Project home page" to better match existing https://review.openstack.org/477635 | 05:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [contributor] Point to example review for new package release https://review.openstack.org/476536 | 05:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site master: Update openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/477756 | 05:30 |
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jarvis | hi facing an issue with git review | 06:38 |
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_jarvis | hi can anyone help me | 06:39 |
_jarvis | with git review failure gives me an error | 06:39 |
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_jarvis | fatal : ICLA contribution agreement requires current contact information. Please review your contact information | 06:41 |
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chason | _jarvis: You need to update your contact information at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact | 06:53 |
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_jarvis | tired | 07:01 |
_jarvis | but getting an error | 07:01 |
_jarvis | cannot store network information | 07:02 |
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AJaeger | _jarvis: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html explains how to do it - follow it step by step | 07:27 |
AJaeger | _jarvis: This needs your gerrit preferred e-mail address to match a primary e-mail address for a foundation individual member account. | 07:28 |
AJaeger | _jarvis: see https://ask.openstack.org/question/56720 for additional troubleshooting tips. | 07:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Arundhati Surpur proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Firewall-as-a-Service (FWaaS) v2 scenario in Networking Guide https://review.openstack.org/477797 | 07:35 |
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openstackgerrit | PRAVIN proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Add key-manager section for glance-api config https://review.openstack.org/477811 | 08:12 |
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_jarvis | @AJaeger when can I commit it | 08:22 |
_jarvis | means when will the migration be complete | 08:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add trainers' guide to the web page https://review.openstack.org/477817 | 08:27 |
AJaeger | _jarvis: it really depends on the speed of the other teams | 08:33 |
AJaeger | _jarvis: and then you need to commit in the project repos like neutron | 08:34 |
openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add trainers' guide to the web page https://review.openstack.org/477817 | 08:34 |
_jarvis | AJaeger : thanks will commit after migration | 08:36 |
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asettle | Morning o/ | 09:06 |
AJaeger | morning, asettle | 09:11 |
asettle | AJaeger: how are you? :) | 09:11 |
AJaeger | asettle: I updated all docs repos for the new theme - reviews are welcome https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:themeupdate | 09:12 |
asettle | AJaeger: on it :) | 09:12 |
AJaeger | asettle: I'm fine. And you? | 09:12 |
asettle | AJaeger: are you happy for +2a? | 09:12 |
asettle | Similar, similar | 09:12 |
asettle | Busy | 09:12 |
AJaeger | Yeah, busy ;( | 09:12 |
AJaeger | I'm happy for +2a... | 09:13 |
AJaeger | since that's the new version of the theme that *all* projects will use, I wanted to update early to guinea-pig | 09:13 |
asettle | AJaeger: okay, cool. I'll have a review in a momento :) | 09:13 |
asettle | Have you had a look at Anne's? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468021/ | 09:14 |
AJaeger | asettle: I approved her other change, the above will take a bit longer - so later today | 09:14 |
AJaeger | Ah, missed that one - was thinking about another one | 09:14 |
AJaeger | asettle: go ahead and merge it in ;) | 09:15 |
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* AJaeger merged quickly | 09:16 | |
chason | AJaeger: Do we need to update other projects repos for the new theme? | 09:16 |
AJaeger | chason: you need to update for going from oslosphinx to openstackdocstheme | 09:17 |
chason | OK | 09:18 |
asettle | AJaeger: yes thank you :) sorry, went to grab a phone call | 09:18 |
AJaeger | chason: it would be nice to update if they use old optios - like https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:themeupdate does | 09:18 |
AJaeger | bbl | 09:19 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Working on integrating options from oslosphinx theme https://review.openstack.org/468021 | 09:20 |
asettle | AJaeger: merging | 09:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site master: Update openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/477756 | 09:23 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/security-doc master: Update for new openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/477754 | 09:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update requirements https://review.openstack.org/477636 | 09:31 |
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asettle | ugh ildikov I'm so sorry - I got dragged into a meeting | 09:41 |
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ildikov | asettle: don't worry, you can ping me later if you want to chat about the second topic | 09:41 |
ildikov | asettle: or we can try at the time of the training-guides meeting this afternoon :) | 09:42 |
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asettle | ildikov: I reviewed your doc just now | 10:17 |
asettle | And the other conversation was Mike's email, yes? :) | 10:17 |
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ildikov | asettle: thanks :) | 10:24 |
ildikov | asettle: yep, it was :) | 10:24 |
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asettle | ildikov: sorry, could you recap for me? :) | 10:27 |
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asettle | AJaeger: do you happen to remember if we came to a conclusion about the glossary? | 10:28 |
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asettle | chason has kicked this off for the neutron team: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477828/2 | 10:29 |
asettle | But I don't believe it's the best option. | 10:29 |
asettle | dhellmann: for when you're in ^ | 10:29 |
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ildikov | asettle: I just hope to use the Contributor Portal for the training so we don't need to maintain that much of the lecture material but focus more on the exercises | 10:32 |
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chason | asettle: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking see line 639 | 10:32 |
asettle | ildikov: that sounds like a good idea. | 10:32 |
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asettle | chason: and then see line 640 and line 641. I agree with whoever wrote that in green, I don't think it's a good idea with the maintenance | 10:33 |
asettle | I'd like to discuss it further | 10:33 |
chason | asettle: OK, I think we should find a solution as soon as possible. If we don't import the glossary, the Jenkins will failed. see http://logs.openstack.org/98/477498/4/check/gate-neutron-docs-ubuntu-xenial/5fd8bf0/console.html#_2017-06-27_06_29_33_036988 | 10:39 |
asettle | chason: Yes, true. I do wonder the importance of the glossary having to be linked. I appreciate that's why we use it in the first place. | 10:40 |
chason | Option 1: remove all the ":term:``" | 10:40 |
asettle | To be honest, I'm very tempted to remove the glossary in full. | 10:40 |
chason | Option 2: import the glossary. | 10:40 |
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AJaeger | asettle: no idea about glossary ;( | 10:50 |
AJaeger | pushing the glossary to each and every repo will lead to many inconsistent versions. | 10:51 |
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AJaeger | I suggest to publish the glossary on its own | 10:52 |
asettle | AJaeger: that's my concern, I am quite against pushing to each repo. | 10:54 |
asettle | I actually think we remove all the :term: as chason mention in the first option, and keep the glossary as a separate entity in the docs repo | 10:54 |
AJaeger | asettle: yes, I agree with that. | 10:55 |
asettle | AJaeger: okay, I think Anne does too. I think between the three of us we can take on dhellmann :P | 10:56 |
AJaeger | alternative would be to update our building to get the glossary from remote for builds - but not sure how to do this best | 10:56 |
AJaeger | ;) | 10:56 |
asettle | AJaeger: I honestly think that's more trouble than it's worth | 10:56 |
asettle | We're already going through a *lot* of changes to make this happen | 10:56 |
AJaeger | asettle: indeed. | 10:57 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/478038 | 12:19 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/478039 | 12:19 |
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dhellmann | asettle, AJaeger : removing the term markup works for me. | 12:50 |
asettle | dhellmann: okay, cool. | 12:50 |
dhellmann | as does importing only the relevant terms | 12:50 |
dhellmann | whatever is easier | 12:50 |
asettle | dhellmann: easier will be removing :term: in the long term | 12:51 |
asettle | The maintenance of the glossary will seriously get out of hand | 12:51 |
dhellmann | ok. I'll update the migration patches I've already proposed | 12:51 |
asettle | Thank you dhellmann :) | 12:51 |
asettle | i've updated the doc-migration-tracking | 12:52 |
dhellmann | do we need to update the steps in the spec? maybe we should remove that section and refer to the tracking doc for directions, if we're going to modify them as we figure out what we're doing :-) | 12:53 |
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asettle | dhellmann: hmmm good point | 12:54 |
asettle | I would say we should update the spec | 12:54 |
asettle | I don't want to keep pointing to an etherpad | 12:54 |
asettle | Wasn't that someone's nit in the beginning? | 12:54 |
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dhellmann | I don't remember. maybe? but sure, either way. | 12:56 |
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asettle | I can update the spec | 12:57 |
dhellmann | ok | 12:57 |
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asettle | dhellmann: uhhh I don't think we included the glossary in the spec, tbh | 12:58 |
asettle | I think we should be good to just keep the update in the etherpad in that case | 13:00 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/478038 | 13:00 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/478039 | 13:00 |
AJaeger | asettle: then include in the spec: Create a separate glossary, project repos will not use :term: | 13:03 |
pkovar | what's the plan with the glossary then? | 13:03 |
pkovar | +1 for having one glossary doc | 13:03 |
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asettle | pkovar: remove :term: from all migrated docs | 13:07 |
asettle | AJaeger: will update with that then | 13:07 |
asettle | AJaeger: put it in the work itesm? | 13:08 |
asettle | items* | 13:08 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Build separate glossary https://review.openstack.org/478142 | 13:11 |
AJaeger | asettle: yes, put it into works items and explain that :term: needs to be removed when importing | 13:11 |
AJaeger | pkovar, chason, dhellmann, asettle : Here's a first patch to build and publish the glossary ^ | 13:11 |
asettle | AJaeger: thank you! | 13:12 |
asettle | REviewing | 13:12 |
AJaeger | let me disable translations for now... | 13:12 |
asettle | Incoming spec update | 13:13 |
openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/docs-specs master: Add glossary decision to doc-migration spec https://review.openstack.org/478145 | 13:13 |
AJaeger | oh, no need to disable translations... | 13:13 |
AJaeger | reviewing, asettle | 13:13 |
openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/docs-specs master: Add glossary decision to doc-migration spec https://review.openstack.org/478145 | 13:18 |
asettle | AJaeger: upadted | 13:18 |
AJaeger | asettle: you're fast ;) | 13:18 |
asettle | AJaeger: you bet! | 13:18 |
AJaeger | asettle: LGTM | 13:19 |
asettle | Thank youuuuu | 13:19 |
openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add trainers' guide to the web page https://review.openstack.org/477817 | 13:20 |
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chason | AJaeger: Thanks! :) | 13:31 |
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EmilienM | dhellmann: when changing the doc theme for releasenotes, do we need to backport the patches into stable branches? | 14:10 |
asettle | EmilienM: I don't believe we've been doing so, no | 14:13 |
asettle | But that's a good question | 14:13 |
EmilienM | asettle: thx for the answer :) | 14:13 |
EmilienM | I won't do it for now | 14:14 |
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asettle | EmilienM: safe bet. I've never done it before. | 14:14 |
asettle | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478145/ | 14:14 |
asettle | pkovar: so, I replied to your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477518/ | 14:14 |
asettle | If you think having it in the folder is a bad idea, I"m happy to abandon :) | 14:14 |
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pkovar | /me looking | 14:19 |
pkovar | asettle: i'd like to have both pre- and after- deployment tasks inside one folder, install-guide, preferably | 14:20 |
pkovar | we could go with doc/install-guide/verify... too | 14:21 |
pkovar | though its really just launching instance, nothing more or less | 14:21 |
pkovar | note that each project install guide also has a "verify" section | 14:22 |
asettle | pkovar: yeah I did notice that while doing my migration for cinder today | 14:22 |
asettle | Hmmm | 14:22 |
pkovar | so, i'd just keep it where it is now | 14:22 |
pkovar | including the section name | 14:22 |
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asettle | pkovar: I"ll abandon :) we can revisit | 14:23 |
pkovar | sure thing. and thank you, asettle | 14:24 |
pkovar | btw, what's the plan for https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/ocata/ | 14:24 |
pkovar | ? | 14:24 |
asettle | pkovar: none. The deployment guides are staying where they are - they are already in project repos and build | 14:24 |
asettle | Keeping a the deploy-guide-gate job | 14:24 |
pkovar | asettle: so for new projects, they are supposed to follow the established process, no change there? | 14:25 |
asettle | pkovar: 'new projects'? What does that identify? | 14:25 |
dhellmann | EmilienM, asettle : release notes always build from master branches | 14:25 |
EmilienM | good to know | 14:26 |
EmilienM | thanks | 14:26 |
asettle | Indeed | 14:26 |
dhellmann | asettle, AJaeger : do we really want the glossary to be its own doc? | 14:26 |
pkovar | asettle: i mean project who want to add their deployment docs to the docs site | 14:26 |
pkovar | projects, rather | 14:26 |
asettle | pkovar: ah yes, follow that established process which is documented in our contributor guide | 14:26 |
asettle | dhellmann: yes. I don't want to lose the glossary | 14:26 |
asettle | And the easiest/best option imho was to remove the :term: links | 14:26 |
asettle | But keeping that glossary is beneficial. | 14:26 |
asettle | I believe, anyway | 14:26 |
pkovar | dhellmann: fwiw, i do :) | 14:27 |
dhellmann | sure, but why publish it on its own instead of part of an existing doc? | 14:27 |
asettle | dhellmann: what existing doc would you recommend? | 14:27 |
pkovar | dhellmann: it applies to the whole project, not just a specific topic? | 14:27 |
asettle | The glossary is a fairly significant beast on its own | 14:27 |
dhellmann | your whole publishing pipeline would be way simpler if you just combined everything that's going to be left after this migration into a single sphinx build | 14:27 |
asettle | dhellmann: I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem? | 14:28 |
dhellmann | maybe it's not a big deal. it's just that as I've been trying to add templates to the www stuff I can't help but keep thinking "this is so complicated" | 14:29 |
dhellmann | and I don't really understand the goal that caused it to be like it is | 14:29 |
asettle | The www being complicated? | 14:30 |
asettle | I think I'm missing a link there. Is the templating complicated, or is the stuff we have already existing making the implementation complicated? | 14:31 |
dhellmann | it's the whole thing | 14:32 |
dhellmann | sorry, stepped away to change the washer | 14:32 |
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asettle | No problem | 14:32 |
chason | asettle, AJaeger: I guess just remove the :term: is not enough. This will cause terms to lose link with the glossary. It will be difficult to add the new glossary entry to terms. | 14:32 |
dhellmann | we're in the process of making docs simpler in all of the other repos by moving everything into one sphinx build | 14:32 |
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dhellmann | and yet in the manuals repo we're adding a *new* sphinx tree just to hold a single-page glossary? | 14:33 |
dhellmann | somehow that seems counter to simplifying the process of managing the docs | 14:33 |
dhellmann | if we moved all of the remaining content together into one sphinx tree, we could avoid the custom build scripts that are needed now to merge the build output together | 14:34 |
chason | asettle: Please see my comment inline https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478145/ | 14:34 |
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asettle | dhellmann: so, i'm not at all against having one sphinx build. I mean, we don't have to go ahead with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478142/ at all. But I guess I'm not quite visualising what you're saying right now, and I'm not too sure how what you are recommending will look? | 14:42 |
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asettle | chason: yes, absolutely. We want to lose the links to the glossary | 14:43 |
dhellmann | asettle: let me put together a patch | 14:43 |
asettle | dhellmann: that'd be great, thanks | 14:43 |
asettle | If it's not too much trouble | 14:43 |
openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/docs-specs master: Add glossary decision to doc-migration spec https://review.openstack.org/478145 | 14:44 |
asettle | Also, updated ^ | 14:44 |
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chason | asettle: Yeah, I know. Aren't we going to add links to the glossary in the future? | 14:47 |
asettle | chason: no. The premise would be that the glossary is a separate entity. If anything, at all, the project repos can choose to link to the glossary if they so desire | 14:47 |
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chason | asettle: Alright, BTW, it might better to add " If anything, at all, the project repos can choose to link to the glossary if they so desire" to the doc migration spec. :) | 14:52 |
asettle | chason: sure :) | 14:54 |
openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/docs-specs master: Add glossary decision to doc-migration spec https://review.openstack.org/478145 | 14:55 |
asettle | Updated | 14:55 |
chason | asettle: I just want to remind that the glossary is the explanation of terms. If we ignore the terms of glossary entry, the glossary might make no sense and nobody would specially read glossary doc. | 15:00 |
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chason | *the glossary entry of terms | 15:01 |
chason | Sorry. :) | 15:01 |
pkovar | chason: i'd argue that it will still show up in search results so users can consume it that way | 15:02 |
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asettle | I agree with pkovar here. THat is how I have previously used a glossary | 15:02 |
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pkovar | also, it serves the purpose of a single point of reference doc for internal needs | 15:03 |
pkovar | ensuring we use terms consistently across the doc suite | 15:03 |
asettle | pkovar: perfect, 10 points to you for explaining what's on my brain | 15:03 |
pkovar | heh | 15:04 |
asettle | I loved what we did with the glossary, I think it was a very cool way to use it, but we cannot continue. | 15:04 |
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pkovar | yeah | 15:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: move library data from openstack-projects.html to projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/476252 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: delete project-specific steps from installation guide https://review.openstack.org/475395 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: update contributor guide based on changes after migration project https://review.openstack.org/477624 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: stop generating content if a template can't be parsed or rendered https://review.openstack.org/476250 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: set up template rendering to support multiple series https://review.openstack.org/477250 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add jsonschema validation to the start of the template rendering https://review.openstack.org/476251 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: show install guides in order by service description, like we do elsewhere https://review.openstack.org/477249 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: templatize the language-bindings page https://review.openstack.org/476248 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: group projects from the same team together in template data file https://review.openstack.org/477248 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: templatize more of openstack-projects list https://review.openstack.org/476249 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove project-specific content from admin guide https://review.openstack.org/475435 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add a link to the shared install guide https://review.openstack.org/477652 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: move getting started content into the install guide https://review.openstack.org/475434 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add a global project list file for main site templates https://review.openstack.org/476247 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: fix pdf build https://review.openstack.org/475408 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: fix schema to guard against misnamed properties https://review.openstack.org/476957 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: templatize the list of api reference guides https://review.openstack.org/476958 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: replace install-guide landing page contents with list of projects https://review.openstack.org/475518 | 15:09 |
dhellmann | asettle : https://review.openstack.org/478190 is heading towards what I'm talking about | 15:09 |
asettle | you just proposed a lot woah | 15:10 |
dhellmann | yeah, I had to rebase the rest of the series because of changes to some of the config files | 15:10 |
asettle | Jeez | 15:10 |
dhellmann | maybe AJaeger's theme update? I didn't check | 15:10 |
asettle | Hahaokay | 15:10 |
asettle | ohhhh | 15:10 |
asettle | Yes probably | 15:10 |
dhellmann | this is why having the repo frozen is important :-/ | 15:10 |
asettle | I agree completely. But theme gotta theme | 15:11 |
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AJaeger | dhellmann: oops, sorry. That was config, not content for me ;( But you're right... | 15:14 |
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dhellmann | asettle : I changed the tox.ini so that patch will build locally but you won't see the difference in the gate job because I didn't take the time to figure out how to make that work right | 15:15 |
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dhellmann | AJaeger : no problem, it was relatively easy to resolve the conflicts | 15:15 |
asettle | dhellmann: OH. I'll pull down now | 15:15 |
dhellmann | asettle : so you'd want to run "tox -e docs" and then look in docs/build/html to see the results | 15:16 |
asettle | dhellmann: sure :) | 15:16 |
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asettle | uno momento | 15:16 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: we have been to far into continuing to do as we did to see how to improve, thanks for your fresh eyes! | 15:16 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: if we merge all docs into one book, we have to rethink translations since we currently do not translate everything | 15:16 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : I wish I had had the time to be involved in the early discussions | 15:16 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : ok, that's good to know | 15:17 |
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dhellmann | do we only translate the install guide? | 15:17 |
asettle | dhellmann: nope, everything | 15:17 |
dhellmann | well, AJaeger just said differently? | 15:17 |
asettle | Well, sorry hahahaha | 15:17 |
asettle | I didn't mean it literally | 15:17 |
asettle | Sometimes, being in person helps | 15:18 |
dhellmann | heh, ok | 15:18 |
asettle | Tuesday afternoon-itis | 15:18 |
asettle | Anywayyyyy | 15:18 |
asettle | Install, API | 15:18 |
dhellmann | I'm guessing that the docs that aren't translated are managed by other teams? | 15:18 |
dhellmann | right | 15:18 |
AJaeger | dhellmann:, see doc-tools-check-languages.conf on what is translated currently | 15:18 |
asettle | Some languages translate training materials too | 15:19 |
dhellmann | oh, duh, I had to edit that file | 15:19 |
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dhellmann | and I suppose there's no way to tell what part of the doc a given bit of text came from, is there? | 15:19 |
dhellmann | ok, maybe translations is the reason things are they are, and that's ok | 15:20 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: depending on what content is left in the end, we might just merge it together... | 15:20 |
dhellmann | sure. so maybe this is a conversation to have later on, when we've finished the purge | 15:20 |
dhellmann | that may be motivation for moving the security guide and ha guide into their own repos, too | 15:21 |
dhellmann | to simplify the translation story | 15:21 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: the security guide is in its own tree already | 15:21 |
dhellmann | so it is | 15:21 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: and it's translated ;9 | 15:22 |
asettle | HA might be worth moving back | 15:22 |
dhellmann | nah, let's not move things we don't have to | 15:22 |
dhellmann | we said we were going to remove the arch guides, right? | 15:22 |
asettle | dhellmann: well, 'decommission' | 15:22 |
dhellmann | oh, no, just mark it as stable as of pike | 15:22 |
dhellmann | right | 15:22 |
asettle | Yep :) | 15:22 |
asettle | I've got to check in with Ben on how he's going with that | 15:22 |
AJaeger | so, the contributor-guide is currently *not* translated. We could merge the others - or ask for not translating it as well... | 15:23 |
asettle | Also need to check in with aspiers and csatari on how the HA guide world is too | 15:23 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : the contributor guide content could move to its own repo, too | 15:23 |
dhellmann | or the specs repo? | 15:23 |
asettle | AJaeger: I don't think we need it translated, do we? It's for the English manuals | 15:23 |
dhellmann | if we said "anything in openstack-manuals will be translated" then does that help us decide what stays there? | 15:23 |
asettle | specs repo might make sense, actually. I'd rather avoid adding new repos if possible | 15:24 |
dhellmann | right, that's what I was thinking | 15:24 |
asettle | dhellmann: doesn't leave much, but yep, that would make it very clear cut | 15:24 |
dhellmann | ok, that's probably something for us to think about after we've made more progress on the migration | 15:24 |
asettle | dhellmann: add to the list! | 15:24 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: that's one option for doing it. | 15:25 |
AJaeger | dhellmann, asettle, I'll -2 my glossary build for now, we can look at that later... | 15:27 |
dhellmann | asettle , AJaeger : item 15 on the future problems etherpad | 15:27 |
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AJaeger | dhellmann: do you have an URL for me? I don't have that one handy ;( | 15:29 |
asettle | AJaeger: okay :) | 15:29 |
dhellmann | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-future-problems | 15:29 |
asettle | how do we have *15* problems already jeez | 15:29 |
dhellmann | asettle : 2 are solved | 15:30 |
asettle | I like that | 15:30 |
dhellmann | a bunch of that is my notes about trying to simplify the build, too | 15:30 |
asettle | I did notice that | 15:30 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: thanks for clarifying live ;) | 15:32 |
dhellmann | that's a little more organized now | 15:35 |
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asettle | okay, after some techno issues, I can finally test your patch dhellmann | 15:37 |
* dhellmann imagines asettle testing to dance music | 15:38 | |
* asettle turns off tunes | 15:38 | |
asettle | Uhh | 15:38 |
asettle | No | 15:38 |
asettle | How do people test without tunes?! | 15:38 |
asettle | You caught me jamming to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPt-hkcvoJ0 | 15:39 |
AJaeger | asettle: any meaning behind the song title and your work ? ;) | 15:39 |
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asettle | AJaeger: hahahahhaahhahahahahaa | 15:39 |
asettle | Sigh | 15:39 |
asettle | No :( | 15:39 |
asettle | *starts building* | 15:40 |
asettle | I need a wand to wave when I start doing that | 15:40 |
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asettle | dhellmann: okay, I see what you're seeing | 15:43 |
asettle | Obviously I'd like it to be a lot prettier as it's our home page, but yeah, nice and simples | 15:44 |
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dhellmann | asettle : we should be able to pretty it up by using a templated page to replace the index page | 15:45 |
asettle | You sure love your templates | 15:45 |
asettle | But that works for me | 15:45 |
dhellmann | hand editing html is so 1995 | 15:45 |
* asettle hides | 15:45 | |
asettle | Oh okay | 15:45 |
asettle | sure | 15:45 |
asettle | 1995 | 15:45 |
asettle | *shifty eyes* | 15:46 |
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asettle | Hhhahaha well, I was busy in 1995 much like yourself. My agenda was just slightly different. | 15:46 |
asettle | Less, html and more, speaking | 15:46 |
asettle | A busy time indeed | 15:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add trainers' guide to the web page https://review.openstack.org/477817 | 15:52 |
AJaeger | asettle: how long do you wait for the OPS guide to get migrated to wiki before you call it a failure? ;) | 15:55 |
asettle | AJaeger: hahahhahaha | 15:55 |
asettle | Hmmm | 15:55 |
asettle | Straight away? :p | 15:55 |
* AJaeger is very suspicious that nobody will do it - but if a miracle happens, good | 15:55 | |
asettle | I think we both know I'll end up doing it | 15:55 |
annegentle | asettle AJaeger :) | 15:55 |
asettle | o/ annegentle | 15:56 |
AJaeger | asettle: NO! don't do it! If nobody volunteers, then nobody is really interested and it would be just another dead place. | 15:56 |
asettle | AJaeger: you're right there | 15:56 |
asettle | Then we just... delete it? | 15:56 |
asettle | What would be next steps? | 15:56 |
AJaeger | delete it. | 15:56 |
asettle | Alright | 15:57 |
annegentle | Hey, the new search for the docs site work on docs-draft, correct? I don't think it works for me locally, but I'm not sure why. | 15:57 |
asettle | Sounds excellent to me | 15:57 |
annegentle | yeah, delete it asettle | 15:57 |
AJaeger | We can always resurrect it from git if needed | 15:57 |
annegentle | technically put it in the attic or some such but yes | 15:57 |
annegentle | AJaeger ayuop | 15:57 |
asettle | annegentle: actually I get the google one in docs-draft... weird | 15:57 |
AJaeger | asettle: send a reminder in two weeks or so asking, then announce we retire it... | 15:57 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: move documentation from readme to sphinx tree https://review.openstack.org/478205 | 15:57 |
asettle | AJaeger: okay, will do | 15:57 |
annegentle | asettle depends on the patchset, if it's using 1.11.0 theme version | 15:57 |
asettle | Ohhhh | 15:58 |
asettle | Hmm | 15:58 |
asettle | annegentle: yes the new search works in the doc site work on docs-draft :) | 15:58 |
asettle | Just confirming | 15:58 |
annegentle | asettle thanks for checking! | 15:59 |
asettle | np, you had me second guessing there | 15:59 |
annegentle | asettle something's up locally and not sure it really matters other than I have to test after it's on gerrit | 15:59 |
asettle | Weird. | 15:59 |
asettle | Okay, up and up | 15:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: move documentation from readme to sphinx tree https://review.openstack.org/478205 | 16:15 |
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AJaeger | annegentle: sorry, can't help much with the docstheme. Hope others can... | 16:47 |
AJaeger | annegentle: I'll try when I find time - but don't depend too heavily on me, please | 16:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: update contributor guide based on changes after migration project https://review.openstack.org/477624 | 18:03 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: merge all manuals into one sphinx build https://review.openstack.org/478190 | 18:03 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove networking guide https://review.openstack.org/478188 | 18:03 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add redirects from docs.o.o/project/ to the latest build https://review.openstack.org/478189 | 18:03 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add a link to the shared install guide https://review.openstack.org/477652 | 18:03 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: fix schema to guard against misnamed properties https://review.openstack.org/476957 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: templatize the list of api reference guides https://review.openstack.org/476958 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: move library data from openstack-projects.html to projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/476252 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: update contributor guide based on changes after migration project https://review.openstack.org/477624 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: set up template rendering to support multiple series https://review.openstack.org/477250 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove networking guide https://review.openstack.org/478188 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: show install guides in order by service description, like we do elsewhere https://review.openstack.org/477249 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add redirects from docs.o.o/project/ to the latest build https://review.openstack.org/478189 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: group projects from the same team together in template data file https://review.openstack.org/477248 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add a link to the shared install guide https://review.openstack.org/477652 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add service-type redirects https://review.openstack.org/476262 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: move documentation from readme to sphinx tree https://review.openstack.org/478205 | 18:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar https://review.openstack.org/477639 | 18:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar https://review.openstack.org/477639 | 18:35 |
openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: move documentation from readme to sphinx tree https://review.openstack.org/478205 | 18:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar https://review.openstack.org/477639 | 18:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar https://review.openstack.org/477639 | 18:44 |
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AJaeger | annegentle: could you look at the servicename in https://review.openstack.org/477899 , please? | 19:36 |
annegentle | AJaeger yup yup | 19:44 |
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AJaeger | thanks | 19:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar https://review.openstack.org/477639 | 20:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: move documentation from readme to sphinx tree https://review.openstack.org/478205 | 20:16 |
openstackgerrit | Treva Nichole Williams proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Removed duplicate line under Benefits section, per bug #1700821. https://review.openstack.org/478253 | 20:19 |
openstack | bug 1700821 in openstack-manuals "Networking concepts, same point duplicated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1700821 - Assigned to Treva Nichole Williams (trilliams) | 20:19 |
AJaeger | annegentle: I see tags in 477639 ;) | 20:20 |
AJaeger | annegentle: for testing I changed the theme.conf to "show_other_versions = True" | 20:21 |
annegentle | AJaeger ah, tabs? | 20:21 |
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AJaeger | the versions are on the right, let me produce a screenshot.. | 20:21 |
AJaeger | http://paste.opensuse.org/23429523 | 20:22 |
AJaeger | see below the "Bug icon" | 20:22 |
annegentle | AJaeger yeah that's what I'm working on now, to get those to collapse into a drop-down menu using CSS only | 20:22 |
AJaeger | so, functionality works - just ugly ;) | 20:22 |
annegentle | AJaeger banging my head against css | 20:23 |
annegentle | right | 20:23 |
* AJaeger is not a CSS expert and cannot help | 20:23 | |
annegentle | AJaeger it's like this: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-X6peGqFZFZ0/UcTqFQ2O21I/AAAAAAAAPi0/uRJyfIgg9uo/s320/blindssuck.gif | 20:23 |
AJaeger | LOL | 20:28 |
openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add trainers' guide to the web page https://review.openstack.org/477817 | 20:30 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: https://docs.openstack.org/openstackdocstheme/latest/ is up, so unified publishing works | 20:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Switch to openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/478275 | 20:52 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Switch to openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/478275 | 20:59 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : woot! | 21:00 |
openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar https://review.openstack.org/477639 | 21:01 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: one other item for the todo list: Support for storyboard.openstack.org instead of launchpad - the report a bug link goes to launchpad but infra, monasca etc use storyboard instead | 21:02 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : I'll add that to the future list | 21:03 |
AJaeger | thanks. | 21:03 |
* AJaeger calls it a day and waves good night | 21:03 | |
dhellmann | AJaeger : although you could open a bug for annegentle ;-) | 21:03 |
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annegentle | shoot I really need that build working on openstackdocstheme for html, right now it just produces a PDF | 21:58 |
annegentle | early enough for an ianychoi ? | 21:59 |
openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add trainers' guide to the web page https://review.openstack.org/477817 | 22:08 |
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annegentle | ianychoi see if this is right https://review.openstack.org/478306 | 22:23 |
annegentle | and now time for me to head out | 22:23 |
* annegentle waves | 22:23 | |
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openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add OUI Best Practices https://review.openstack.org/478319 | 23:48 |
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