| fungi | moving here, but same as i commented in #openstack-tc a moment ago... | 13:31 |
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| fungi | spotz[m]: i left a comment on your election timeline addition to the release schedule, just want to confirm the right weeks are showing up comparing https://governance.openstack.org/election/ to the draft at https://0a95c5b7efbe472339b9-98861b5cdb7542212187af9468d43e6d.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/openstack/2242a934e2e64da7b93c262759a88a15/docs/hibiscus/schedule.html | 13:31 |
| opendevreview | Ian Y. Choi proposed openstack/election master: [Tool] update_releases_calendar: fix one-week mismatch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/994774 | 15:49 |
| ianychoi | fungi: I am suggesting to a little bit change update_releases_calendar logic via ^ and the revised yaml would be https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/994523/1..2/doc/source/hibiscus/schedule.yaml . It shows election-close during R-1, not R-2 when voting finished. Considering election closing includes final double-check and update governance activites, I think the revised schedule looks fine. | 16:09 |
| fungi | i think we somewhat mix up deadlines with other events in there, and am unclear whether the goal is to let people know when they need to submit their votes or when they should expect results to be announced | 16:12 |
| fungi | i suppose it depends on whether the intended audience is people voting on candidates or people observing the election process | 16:13 |
| ianychoi | I agree. Asking for opinion to slaweq and gouthamr on above thoughts | 16:14 |
| fungi | for most other (non-election) things that get included in the release schedule, the focus is on deadlines | 16:20 |
| fungi | so applying that to release activities it would be things like deadline to update your e-mail, deadline for extra-ac additions, earliest/latest opportunity to submit nominations, earliest/latest opportunity to vote in the polls | 16:21 |
| * gouthamr recovers from meetings and looks now | 20:10 | |
| gouthamr | hmm, everything looks correct, except all deadlines are off by a week... so fungi are you suggesting we change the event titles to make things obvious somehow? | 20:13 |
| gouthamr | ianychoi revised those last cycle... but, maybe your perspective's different.. some of these are multi-week events unlike all the other scheduled events that have specific deadlines | 20:14 |
| fungi | gouthamr: the change got a revision between my comment and now | 20:15 |
| gouthamr | ah! my bad, didn't look at the latest render | 20:15 |
| fungi | and yeah some stuff seemed skewed by rroughly a week | 20:16 |
| gouthamr | still kinda off? :) but less off than before ianychoi's fix.. | 20:19 |
| fungi | part of it's going to be that the release schedule is only at weekly granularity and we change election process phases mid-week, and that script is trying to indicate weeks during which those phases are ongoing rather than the weeks in which they start and end, so it's not ever really going to line up | 20:21 |
| gouthamr | yeah :( but, as a general signal, this is still good | 20:22 |
| fungi | and i'm not sure if the goal is to include the weeks when the phases start or the weeks when phases end | 20:22 |
| gouthamr | i think it was trying to be accurate by doing both | 20:22 |
| fungi | in which case there will be weeks where it's both nominations and campaigning, or both campaigning and polling | 20:23 |
| gouthamr | but, that's also confusing perhaps: "Election Campaigning Open" & "Election Polling Open" will happen on the same weeks | 20:23 |
| fungi | because we switch from one phase to the next in the middle of the week so some of the week is in one phase and some in another | 20:23 |
| gouthamr | yeah | 20:23 |
| gouthamr | maybe that's okay.. fix this script to put down the specific date in description? | 20:24 |
| gouthamr | i can do that and see if ianychoi/others think its okay | 20:24 |
| gouthamr | "Please see the Election site for specific timing information." | 20:24 |
| gouthamr | ^ it says that right now | 20:24 |
| gouthamr | we know you're confused, so do this :P | 20:25 |
| gouthamr | is what we appear to be saying.. | 20:25 |
| fungi | right, which is mainly why i +2'd the schedule addition. it's never going to align precisely anyway | 20:25 |
| gouthamr | ++ | 20:26 |
| gouthamr | aligned with the thought, visibility is the biggest concern to resolve.. | 20:26 |
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