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| nikhil | Hello | 13:32 |
| nikhil | who's in the import town today? | 13:32 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 13:32 |
| rosmaita | i am on the import train! | 13:32 |
| nikhil | oh it's a train now, excellent | 13:33 |
| nikhil | the faster it moves, the better! | 13:33 |
| rosmaita | ++ | 13:33 |
| nikhil | TGV ;) | 13:33 |
| nikhil | anyway, looks like just two of us | 13:34 |
| * hemanthm is lurking | 13:34 | |
| nikhil | let's start then | 13:34 |
| nikhil | 1) reviews | 13:34 |
| nikhil | Any particular reviews that we are stuck on? | 13:34 |
| nikhil | What reviews do we need to focus on this week? | 13:34 |
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| rosmaita | prob need to get the spec update completed | 13:35 |
| rosmaita | and also close the discussion on the info call | 13:35 |
| rosmaita | i saw your long comment on the latter | 13:35 |
| rosmaita | i was going to reach out to morgan (and maybe doug) and ask him whether the spec is unclear about this? | 13:36 |
| rosmaita | and if so, where, exactly? | 13:36 |
| rosmaita | i thought it was very clear that the API interface will be completely fixed | 13:36 |
| rosmaita | but the behind-the-scenes stuff will be configurable to handle validating the image | 13:36 |
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| nikhil | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-import-logbook | 13:37 |
| rosmaita | thanks | 13:37 |
| rosmaita | also, despite what doug said, the idea was NOT that there would only be 2 methods | 13:38 |
| rosmaita | the idea was that any additional methods would have to be added in-tree | 13:38 |
| rosmaita | to keep consistency and interoperability | 13:38 |
| rosmaita | and backward compat | 13:38 |
| rosmaita | also, doug's suggestion about upload to swift by us just supplying an URL cannot work | 13:40 |
| rosmaita | unless we keep all images under 5GB | 13:40 |
| rosmaita | we have to go the route where the upload to swift is independent of glance | 13:40 |
| rosmaita | (also, that 5GB size is configurable in swift, could be smaller at particular sites) | 13:41 |
| rosmaita | but that makes more sense anyway, might as well ask end users to use the excellent tools that have been created for uploading large objects into swift | 13:41 |
| nikhil | question: | 13:43 |
| nikhil | i) can we return a value from the first POST call to let the users know where to upload data (even if it's swift)? I did not see that in the spec(or update). | 13:43 |
| nikhil | <end of question> | 13:45 |
| * rosmaita thinking | 13:45 | |
| rosmaita | i don't think so | 13:46 |
| nikhil | (I am okay with a NO) | 13:46 |
| nikhil | we may need to add that as a tech. limitation on the spec | 13:46 |
| rosmaita | we don't know their swift endpoint | 13:47 |
| rosmaita | i guess we could get it out of the service catalog? | 13:47 |
| nikhil | ok, makes sense. | 13:47 |
| rosmaita | i was thinking that the best way to do this is the way we do it at rackspace now | 13:47 |
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| rosmaita | user tells us where to get the data | 13:47 |
| rosmaita | as part of the import call | 13:47 |
| rosmaita | it's like the "hollywood principle" -- don't call us, we'll call you | 13:48 |
| rosmaita | (or something like that) | 13:48 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: right, so we are assuming about a particular identity setup anyway? | 13:48 |
| nikhil | haha | 13:48 |
| rosmaita | well, tjat | 13:48 |
| rosmaita | sorry | 13:48 |
| rosmaita | well, that's a good question | 13:48 |
| rosmaita | i think we have to make some assumptions | 13:49 |
| rosmaita | either that, or we skip swift-local and do copy-from | 13:49 |
| nikhil | and that is okay | 13:49 |
| rosmaita | the swift user can generate a tempurl and give it to glance | 13:49 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: I thought there was a 5G or less size limitation? | 13:50 |
| rosmaita | not for download | 13:50 |
| rosmaita | let me clarify | 13:50 |
| rosmaita | (1) completely independently of glance, user uploads their image data to swift | 13:50 |
| rosmaita | either creating a DLO/SLO by hand, or using an appropriate tool | 13:51 |
| rosmaita | so they can have an image as big as they like (up to the limit of bytes they can store in swift) | 13:51 |
| rosmaita | (2) user goes to glance, does POST v2/images to create image record and get image_id | 13:51 |
| rosmaita | (3) user goes back to swift and creates a tmpurl for that SLO/DLO they made in step (1) | 13:52 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: ok, I think we need to clarify two things for this approach: | 13:53 |
| rosmaita | (4) user goes back to Glance and does POST v2/import specifying the copy-from import method and passing that tmpurl | 13:53 |
| * nikhil waits | 13:53 | |
| rosmaita | (done!) | 13:53 |
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| nikhil | i) we need to understand if this would acceptable by some security teams as the copy-from requires some networking assumptions | 13:54 |
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| nikhil | ii) we need to determine if the infra team is okay with this approach as they still need to complete a off the band call to swift, making it more difficult for openstack client to have a single call for import. | 13:55 |
| rosmaita | corrected the call in (4) on the etherpad) | 13:55 |
| nikhil | ok, thanks! | 13:56 |
| nikhil | we've less than 4 mins left | 13:56 |
| nikhil | do we want to come up with action items for "everyone" interested in contributing to import? | 13:56 |
| rosmaita | i am worried about (ii), i don't see how you can have a single call if you're using swift properly | 13:57 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: at least I was told that they want to have a single call for the entire 3 step dance (all cases). | 13:57 |
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| rosmaita | well, they can do glance-direct as a single client=side call | 13:58 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: for all clouds, where glance-direct is disallowed | 13:59 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: we need to chat later. glance meeting time :) | 13:59 |
| rosmaita | i think we need to focus on end users, infra is just one of those | 13:59 |
| rosmaita | ok bye | 13:59 |
| nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:59 |
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| nikhil | bunting: hi | 15:05 |
| nikhil | regarding this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301015/ | 15:05 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: around | 15:09 |
| nikhil | ? | 15:09 |
| nikhil | flaper87: can we please hold off on the deprecation of /file, deprecation of multiple_locations stuff until after nova spec and initial set of v2 patches are approved? | 15:10 |
| nikhil | feel free to push on the registry and store API stuff | 15:10 |
| * nikhil in prioritization mode | 15:10 | |
| johnthetubaguy | I am curious, what replaces the multiple_locations stuff? | 15:10 |
| mfedosin | nikhil: yup | 15:11 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: I'm ok with that but let's set a timeline on this. | 15:11 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: I just don't want us to get to the third milestone again waiting for nova | 15:11 |
| nikhil | johnthetubaguy: it's not going away. it's deprecating a config option. (sorry about the confusion(=) | 15:11 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: ^ | 15:11 |
| nikhil | flaper87: all the nova work depends on you, mfedosin and sudipto | 15:12 |
| mfedosin | we're discussing this stuff with sudipto | 15:12 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: #openstack-dev | 15:12 |
| nikhil | let's discuss there | 15:12 |
| nikhil | nova folks are many a times there | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: and reviews ;) | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | code is not a problem | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | coding has never been a problem for Glance | 15:12 |
| nikhil | flaper87: well if the code is not what is acceptable it's not really a code ;) | 15:13 |
| mfedosin | flaper87: for whom it's not a problem? :) | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: unless it *was* acceptable until the opinions changed | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: you :P | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | anyway | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | I'm good waiting | 15:13 |
| flaper87 | but let's not wait forever | 15:13 |
| nikhil | k | 15:14 |
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| bunting | nikhil: Pong | 16:05 |
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| nikhil | bunting: so, I think rosmaita or hemanthm are a good candidate to +2 that lite-spec | 16:46 |
| nikhil | once done, I will take a look | 16:46 |
| nikhil | bunting: as that feature affects them directly | 16:46 |
| hemanthm | which one? | 16:46 |
| hemanthm | soft delete? | 16:46 |
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| bunting | hemanthm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301015/ | 16:50 |
| bunting | nikhil: Thanks | 16:50 |
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| nikhil | bunting: let me know when stuck | 16:54 |
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