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openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance: Improving help text of public_endpoint https://review.openstack.org/326126 | 01:07 |
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jith_ | Hi all, i have a openstack setup, glance with swift backend. I got the following error when i tried to upload 500 GB to swift.. The space is available.. Can anyone pls guide?? | 04:31 |
jith_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/509087/ | 04:31 |
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cooldharma06 | hi all | 06:43 |
cooldharma06 | i am trying to upload image to glance with size of 500gb and swift as my backend. Available size in my glance is 506gb | 06:44 |
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cooldharma06 | any suggestions.?? | 06:50 |
cooldharma06 | in command line its showing like uploading after certain time it fails with following error -> http://pastebin.com/mPuXhnXd | 06:51 |
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openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/glance: Using LOG.warning instead of LOG.warn https://review.openstack.org/327502 | 07:58 |
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bunting | I'm probably going to need some core input on this, since it is in the infra/project-config. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327526/ If some of the cores could give it a look, that would be really helpful. | 09:18 |
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kairat | nikhil, ping | 10:14 |
kairat | nikhil, can you please remind me who from magnum team was interested in glare | 10:14 |
kairat | ? | 10:15 |
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nikhil | Kairat no one was interested specifically | 10:17 |
flaper87 | bunting: what kind of help do you need there? | 10:18 |
bunting | flaper87: Before I have had comments asking if I can get a comment confirming this is okay from the glance side of things | 10:20 |
nikhil | kairat it was a merely courtesy help at the summit so, atm no one. Btw Magnum mission stmt has changed so may be their plans too. | 10:20 |
flaper87 | bunting: oh, ok! It looks good to me | 10:20 |
flaper87 | bunting: actually | 10:21 |
flaper87 | bunting: I'm confused, I'd assume you don't need to define the job again | 10:21 |
flaper87 | bunting: - '{pipeline}-glance_store-dsvm-functional-{driver}' | 10:21 |
flaper87 | you have that already | 10:21 |
flaper87 | it should be enough to just add: gate-glance_store_dsvm-functional-swift | 10:22 |
kairat | nikhil, is it related somehow to Higgins? | 10:22 |
flaper87 | kairat: it might be | 10:23 |
bunting | flaper87: If you look below at the gnocchi project L2147, they have it copied | 10:23 |
bunting | So I just did what they did | 10:23 |
nikhil | kairat I have no clue . I attended only first Higgins meeting and they were still coming up with plans. So too early to tell. Container space is pretty volatile atm. | 10:24 |
flaper87 | bunting: mmh, and did they add the gate-glance_store_dsvm-functional-swift (or similar) too ? | 10:24 |
flaper87 | bunting: apparently I'll never understand how these things work | 10:24 |
bunting | flaper87: Yeah, I don't totally understand, guesswork and looking at what other people are doing | 10:25 |
flaper87 | my strategy is always to post something that looks sane enough and then wait for Andrea's awesome reviews :P | 10:25 |
flaper87 | bunting: +1'd, we'll see what infra folks have to say about it | 10:28 |
flaper87 | bunting: thanks for working on this | 10:28 |
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bunting | flaper87: Cheers | 10:32 |
bunting | Always time to get a quick review in ;p | 10:33 |
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nikhil | flwang: kairat meeting reminder https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-and-ops-midcycle-sync | 11:32 |
nikhil | sabari: ^ | 11:32 |
nikhil | kairat: ok, so I thought I would get some more time before this sync but have back to back meetings until 1930UTC today except for one break. Let's chat right after glance meeting on containers stuff, hopefully sudipto who knows more will be there. | 11:34 |
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flwang1 | nikhil: ping | 11:36 |
flwang1 | can you remind me the etherpad link? | 11:37 |
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flwang1 | no worries, got it | 11:40 |
openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/glance: Add in missing log hints https://review.openstack.org/327615 | 11:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Darja Shakhray proposed openstack/glance-specs: Add distinction layer https://review.openstack.org/315483 | 12:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/324823 | 12:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance-specs: Glare API https://review.openstack.org/283136 | 13:27 |
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nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 14:00 |
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openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/glance: Add in missing log hints https://review.openstack.org/327615 | 14:59 |
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jokke_ | rosmaita: that explains ;) | 15:00 |
rosmaita | :) | 15:00 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: i have to attend api wg meeting at 16:00-17:00 utc, let's sync sometime after that, mabye 17:30 if that's not too late for you? | 15:01 |
rosmaita | nikhil: ^^ | 15:02 |
rosmaita | we just need 15 min or so to talk about the doc situation | 15:02 |
nikhil | rosmaita: I may have a meeting .. but let me see if I can multi-task | 15:03 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: nikhil: i am free 1700-2100, so let me know what would work | 15:04 |
mfedosin | rosmaita: okay, I have a set of meeting for next 2 hours | 15:05 |
mfedosin | after that I'm free | 15:05 |
mfedosin | rosmaita if you're going to attend api wg meeting can you ask them to review Glare spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283136/ | 15:06 |
rosmaita | nikhil: it's up to you, pick a time after 1700 | 15:06 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: will do | 15:06 |
mfedosin | rosmaita: thanks | 15:07 |
rosmaita | (putting it on the agenda now) | 15:07 |
nikhil | rosmaita: 1730 works | 15:09 |
nikhil | mfedosin: ^ | 15:09 |
rosmaita | nikhil: ack | 15:09 |
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mfedosin | nikhil: rosmaita 1730 is good | 15:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Brian Rosmaita proposed openstack/glance: WADL to RST migration (part 1) https://review.openstack.org/312259 | 16:01 |
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kairat | !ping | 16:45 |
openstack | pong | 16:45 |
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mfedosin | rosmaita: nikhil - I'm here | 17:30 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: hi~ | 17:30 |
rosmaita | the api wg will take a look at your glare api spec | 17:31 |
mfedosin | yeah, thanks a lot | 17:31 |
rosmaita | one comment was that they suggest you use microversions | 17:31 |
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mfedosin | I saw :) It was kairat's big dream | 17:31 |
rosmaita | anyway, i updated the api-ref v1 patch and fixed the problem you noticed wiht the index page | 17:32 |
mfedosin | I need to investigate more, but it's doable | 17:32 |
rosmaita | so if you have time to +2 again, that would be cool | 17:32 |
mfedosin | I'm waiting tests to pass and put +2 again | 17:32 |
rosmaita | they said it's better to do microversions now if you'll ever want to do them | 17:32 |
rosmaita | cool, thanks | 17:33 |
mfedosin | np :) my pleasure | 17:33 |
mfedosin | about documentation | 17:33 |
mfedosin | I can start writing some doc | 17:33 |
rosmaita | yes, what are you thinking we need | 17:33 |
mfedosin | about v1->v2 migration | 17:33 |
mfedosin | frankly speaking I'm little bit busy lately | 17:34 |
rosmaita | understandably | 17:34 |
mfedosin | so I'll be able to share it only next week | 17:34 |
mfedosin | so, there I want to describe all differences between v1 and v2 and how to avoid them | 17:35 |
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mfedosin | also all hiddens | 17:35 |
rosmaita | who would this be aimed at? | 17:35 |
mfedosin | developers, who want to switch from v1 to v2 | 17:36 |
mfedosin | Horizon, Heat, Murano | 17:36 |
mfedosin | maybe some other projects | 17:36 |
rosmaita | mabye we should start an etherpad to brainstorm the diferences? | 17:37 |
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mfedosin | it's exactly what I want :) | 17:37 |
mfedosin | but I can start only next week unfortunately | 17:37 |
rosmaita | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-v1-to-v2-differenceshttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-v1-to-v2-differenceshttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-v1-to-v2-differences | 17:37 |
rosmaita | sorry about the link, network probs here | 17:38 |
mfedosin | because we have to prepare Glare code for review | 17:38 |
rosmaita | i will start brainstorming on the etherpad, then you cqn add stuff later | 17:38 |
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nikhil | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-v1-to-v2-differences | 17:38 |
rosmaita | next week is fine, this doesn't have to be ready until RC-time! | 17:38 |
nikhil | (for ref) | 17:39 |
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mfedosin | we can copy some items from nova spec | 17:39 |
nikhil | rosmaita: no, before doc freeze | 17:39 |
rosmaita | oops | 17:39 |
nikhil | but that;s a detail | 17:39 |
nikhil | R-5 http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 17:40 |
nikhil | rosmaita: I am thinking we need to start this documentation with your future APIs reference | 17:40 |
nikhil | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/glanceapi.html#images-v1-api | 17:41 |
nikhil | with the first sentence | 17:41 |
nikhil | two main reasons: | 17:41 |
nikhil | 1) glance team is not liable for those who have been using this API publicly. so documentation is aimed at services using v1. | 17:42 |
nikhil | 2) we are doing this as a courtesy and not because of liaibility. so, the maintenence of these docs is totally upto volunteer maint. if there are none, these docs need to exist outside of glance source tree. | 17:43 |
rosmaita | we could put them in the wiki | 17:43 |
rosmaita | and then they are not subject to doc freeze | 17:44 |
nikhil | that works, prefeerably not under glance sub domain | 17:44 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: so basically, you just want to mention a few things that a conscientious dev would figure out from reading the api-ref and comparing v1 to v2? | 17:45 |
rosmaita | you mentioned some "hidden" differences? | 17:45 |
mfedosin | for example - do you know why Hyper-V didn't work with v2 and why we needed separate commit? | 17:46 |
mfedosin | in v1 we have purge_props flag - in v2 props_to_remove list | 17:46 |
mfedosin | so, in Nova purge_props is set to True | 17:47 |
rosmaita | i am not familiar with the props_to_remove list | 17:47 |
mfedosin | it's a list of properties you want to remove | 17:47 |
mfedosin | and if purge_props is True then all properties will be removed | 17:48 |
mfedosin | and then all properties in related dictionary will be set | 17:48 |
mfedosin | but in v1 if we provide empty properties dict, then purge_props is ignored | 17:49 |
rosmaita | i didn't know that, what happens? all props removed? | 17:50 |
mfedosin | so basically (purge_props=True; properties={}) == purge_props=False | 17:50 |
rosmaita | wow | 17:50 |
mfedosin | no, they are left untouched | 17:50 |
rosmaita | that seems like a bug, but i guess there was a reason for it | 17:51 |
rosmaita | is purge_props passed through to the registry? | 17:51 |
nikhil | it exists in v2 as well | 17:51 |
mfedosin | and Hyper-V used this feature(or bug) | 17:51 |
mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324670/3/nova/virt/hyperv/snapshotops.py | 17:51 |
nikhil | rosmaita: api | 17:51 |
rosmaita | ok, so now i see why nikhil doesn't want to give a warranty | 17:51 |
nikhil | :) | 17:52 |
mfedosin | also this thing with size=0 is not obvious | 17:52 |
rosmaita | where do you use props_to_remove? | 17:53 |
rosmaita | (sorry, still stuck on previous topic) | 17:53 |
mfedosin | they are converted in nova.image | 17:53 |
rosmaita | so that's not really a glance thing? | 17:53 |
rosmaita | they are converted to the json-patch format? | 17:54 |
mfedosin | props_to_remove? | 17:54 |
rosmaita | yes | 17:54 |
mfedosin | no it's glance v2 thing | 17:54 |
mfedosin | in v1 it was purge_props in v2 props_to_remove | 17:54 |
rosmaita | yes, but i've never seen it in the api -- is it a client thing? | 17:55 |
mfedosin | but in Nova we leave purge_props for back-compatibility | 17:55 |
mfedosin | no, it's a part of Glance v2 API | 17:55 |
rosmaita | guess i don't know the api as well as i thought | 17:55 |
nikhil | brb | 17:56 |
mfedosin | wait a sec | 17:57 |
mfedosin | I'll found it | 17:57 |
rosmaita | where do you use props_to_remove ? i thought the only way to update an image is PATCH | 17:57 |
mfedosin | *find | 17:57 |
rosmaita | cool, ty | 17:57 |
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mfedosin | rosmaita: ah, sorry, you're right - remove_props is client thing only | 18:01 |
rosmaita | np, that's a relief! | 18:01 |
mfedosin | but anyway, v2 doesn't support purge_props flag | 18:01 |
rosmaita | ok | 18:02 |
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rosmaita | i always thought of purge_props as something you wanted to keep false, anyway | 18:02 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: actually it can make sense when you want to override defaults that may be of order of 100s | 18:03 |
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mfedosin | in Nova it's true https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/image/glance.py#L396 | 18:03 |
rosmaita | i see | 18:03 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: in your etherpad, no such thing in v2 REST API | 18:04 |
rosmaita | nikhil: did that address your point? | 18:05 |
nikhil | rosmaita: and this is a workaround in v2 https://github.com/openstack/python-glanceclient/blob/master/glanceclient/v2/images.py#L251 | 18:05 |
nikhil | rosmaita: but we don't want client to be our source of workarounds, so I am okay stating that the feature doesn't exist as a part of Glance API | 18:06 |
rosmaita | ha! i remember eddie fixing that bug in the client | 18:06 |
nikhil | (another reason for no warranty) | 18:06 |
nikhil | ;) | 18:06 |
rosmaita | ok | 18:07 |
mfedosin | nikhil: let's add copy-from param there :) | 18:07 |
mfedosin | sorry for trolling :) | 18:08 |
nikhil | mfedosin: like I said copy-from breaks large clouds | 18:08 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: added! | 18:08 |
nikhil | mfedosin: you are entering into a territory that doesn't involve trolling because it has tons of team and large number of end users, each with their own agenda ;) | 18:08 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: so what do you think of this being on the wiki? | 18:08 |
mfedosin | nikhil: now glance v1 supports copy-from and everybody uses it - no big clouds are broken | 18:09 |
rosmaita | instead of in the source tree docs | 18:09 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: rackspace doesn't use it | 18:09 |
nikhil | mfedosin: sorry, I phrased it incorrectly. the proposal to add copy-from in client breaks large clouds. | 18:09 |
mfedosin | it's on by default in Horizon | 18:09 |
mfedosin | okay, let's do wiki then | 18:10 |
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nikhil | mfedosin: what the proposal is a mere workaround but looses one of the main use case for copy-from (async copy of data) | 18:10 |
mfedosin | maybe we can add at least optional support | 18:11 |
nikhil | rosmaita: that ;) for eddie's patch. I am on all serious mode for glance taking no additional responsibilities when it comes to end users. we're facing enough challenges poised by various stakeholders. | 18:11 |
mfedosin | that can be configured with env variables | 18:11 |
nikhil | mfedosin: in client there's no optional support. once it gets in, it stay in, for years. and the proposal to add copy-from on the server side after this has been done on client side is counter-intuitive. it will only result into making adoption strategists angry and client developers mad -- who may refuse to support server side copy-from. | 18:13 |
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mfedosin | in that case it seems that we won't be able to deprecate v1, because Horizon will continue to use copy-from from v1 | 18:15 |
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nikhil | the best route is to push hard on supporting copy-from in import refactor in newton -- something I've been saying since the summit (not only because IBM needs it but also as the community really really wants it) | 18:16 |
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rosmaita | +1 | 18:16 |
nikhil | when it comes to supporting copy-from, I'm your best friend. but I want this done right. | 18:16 |
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rosmaita | mfedosin: nikhil: is there anything else like visibility vs. is_public (v2 vs v1)? | 18:17 |
* nikhil feel a itch about something but can't recollect | 18:18 | |
* nikhil finding needle in the hackstack atm | 18:18 | |
nikhil | rosmaita: does the schema-images.json count? | 18:18 |
nikhil | err, it's schema-image.json | 18:19 |
rosmaita | you mean that the actual schema used to validate input is generated from the config options at the site? | 18:20 |
nikhil | rosmaita: yes, that one. | 18:20 |
rosmaita | i would rather pretend that doesn't exist | 18:20 |
nikhil | :) | 18:20 |
nikhil | people 'love' warlock | 18:20 |
rosmaita | there's no way to say additionalProperties: false for v1, right? | 18:20 |
rosmaita | whereas you can disallow them in v2? | 18:21 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: oh, that's a good point | 18:23 |
nikhil | but againa a configurable thing? (sort of like schema) | 18:23 |
rosmaita | yeah, maybe we just say "v2 is very configurable, please consult the documentation" | 18:24 |
* nikhil has to go in 3 mins | 18:24 | |
nikhil | yes, so are tasks :) | 18:24 |
rosmaita | ok, maybe we dont' want to say it that way | 18:25 |
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rosmaita | mfedosin: nikhil: this is a good start, when i have some time i'll try to organize the points in a coherent way, and after you've had a chance to look, we can put it into the wiki | 18:26 |
nikhil | rosmaita: thanks much! | 18:27 |
rosmaita | np | 18:27 |
rosmaita | arrrgh ... my api-ref v1 patch failed the gate-glance-python27-db | 18:28 |
rosmaita | this is one downside of the docs being in-tree ... running a lot of tests for code that isn't touched | 18:30 |
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mfedosin | nikhil: rosmaita I just came from Horizon, they started writing code for Glance v2 migration. They will need our review when it's done | 18:35 |
mfedosin | now I have to go home | 18:35 |
mfedosin | see you tomorrow | 18:36 |
rosmaita | mfedosin: have a good evening! | 18:36 |
mfedosin | btw - tests failed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312259/ | 18:36 |
mfedosin | can you update? | 18:37 |
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rosmaita | mfedosin: thanks, was looking to see if it was a reported problem, but looks like just random error | 18:39 |
rosmaita | thanks for the recheck | 18:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Add in missing log hints https://review.openstack.org/327615 | 18:43 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: back and onto my 8th mtg of the day :) | 19:11 |
nikhil | rosmaita: but that error looks intermittent so recheck should help | 19:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Nikhil Komawar proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Remove deprecated construct method from session init https://review.openstack.org/274619 | 19:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Nikhil Komawar proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: WIP: switch to keystoneauth https://review.openstack.org/290497 | 19:35 |
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