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openstackgerrit | Sabari proposed openstack/glance: Do not set header if checksum doesn't exist https://review.openstack.org/328013 | 00:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Sabari proposed openstack/glance: Use olso_log and delay string interpolation while logging https://review.openstack.org/328049 | 02:17 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance_store: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/328116 | 07:00 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/328137 | 07:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/318436 | 08:10 |
openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/318436 | 08:10 |
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yamada-h | Hi. I'm working on sheepdog driver's CI. And I posted a patch for adding a jenkins job. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328148/ | 08:29 |
yamada-h | I made the patch refer to this mail http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081966.html | 08:30 |
yamada-h | please review the patch, thanks! | 08:31 |
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kairat | sigmavirus24, Hi, have you heard something about glanceclient troubles with ssl termination | 08:55 |
kairat | ssl termination proxy | 08:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-glanceclient: Remove deprecated construct method from session init https://review.openstack.org/274619 | 10:28 |
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kairat | sigmavirus24, please ignore my question, the root cause was in haproxy | 11:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Darja Shakhray proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Add Test Artifact type https://review.openstack.org/320318 | 12:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance-specs: Glare API https://review.openstack.org/283136 | 12:09 |
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Mr_Broken | hey guys | 12:16 |
Mr_Broken | anyone have a working glance cache, on swift in Mitaka ? | 12:16 |
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sigmavirus24 | kairat: most openstack services have significant issues understanding the X-Forwarded-* headers that TLS terminating LBs use though | 13:47 |
kairat | I guess glance is one of them, right?=) | 13:48 |
kairat | sigmavirus24, ack, thanks! | 13:49 |
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sigmavirus24 | kairat: I don't remember | 14:00 |
sigmavirus24 | but the tl;dr is that most don't understand X-Forwarded-Proto | 14:01 |
sigmavirus24 | so the URLs they generate tend to all be http unless they're contacted over https | 14:01 |
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sigmavirus24 | Most grok X-Forwarded-For | 14:01 |
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sigmavirus24 | I feel like this should be available as some kind of middleware but | 14:01 |
sigmavirus24 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 14:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Glare updates https://review.openstack.org/328328 | 14:48 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/324853 | 15:49 |
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tsymanczyk | nikhil : rosmaita : good morning and happy friday! re community images sync, some okay progress this week. you're both already aware of the meeting from yesterday where the API people seemed in favour of breaking backwards compat for the new sharing workflow. but it seems that question is still open pending running it past some others who have opinions | 16:05 |
tsymanczyk | regarding backwards compat. the other two main open questions have not progressed that i'm aware of (1- the transitions table from the old wiki, what is the reason we want to wipe the member list on transition to public, and are we sure that that's still what we want to do? and 2- how glance wants to represent membership and bookmarking going forward). this | 16:05 |
tsymanczyk | week i've thankfully managed to push a couple (minor) patchsets that i know brian's already aware of. i still hope and intend to accelerate my rate of progress. as an aside i'm traveling back home thurs fri next week so will unfortunately be missing both the weekly glance meeting and this weekly sync. .... that is all from me. | 16:05 |
* tsymanczyk drops the mic | 16:05 | |
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openstackgerrit | Castulo J. Martinez proposed openstack/glance: Fixes the use of dates when listing images https://review.openstack.org/319682 | 16:05 |
nikhil | tsymanczyk: g'morning | 16:07 |
rosmaita | tsymanczyk: thanks for the update, i was travelling this morning, just got online | 16:07 |
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nikhil | tsymanczyk rosmaita : g'morning | 16:08 |
nikhil | 1- I think as we discussed last sync, input from rosmaita for that being okay will help. alternatively, we can consult a few ops? | 16:09 |
nikhil | 2 - still wip (for me too) | 16:10 |
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nikhil | tsymanczyk re: sync next week, we've the midcycle where we'd allocate one hour for this topic on Wednesday 15th may be at 1600utc so that it's not too early for you. Also, the thursday weekly meeting is cancelled. And with wednesday sync, I think we need not have friday one. | 16:14 |
rosmaita | tsymanczyk: nikhil: i apologize, completely forgot the sync | 16:14 |
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nikhil | np | 16:14 |
nikhil | rosmaita I think you helped make one stride forward this week, thanks much. | 16:15 |
nikhil | tsymanczyk: so, no issues with the change of plans from your end. the plans would have been changed either way :) | 16:15 |
tsymanczyk | nikhil : perfect. wednesday the 15th at 1600utc works well, i will be here. | 16:16 |
rosmaita | re 1 - i think the "no members on public images" is a holdover from the original design context, where there were only 2 'visibility' values, and users could only share private images, and there didn't seem to be a point in having any members on a public image, because the member-list wouldn't do anything | 16:16 |
rosmaita | but now that we have more visibility values, it may make sense to keep members on public even though they don't do anything | 16:17 |
rosmaita | since there are more transitions ... i just don't know, really | 16:17 |
rosmaita | i guess if we allowed people to bookmark public images "just in case" they get downgraded to community, that would make sense | 16:18 |
nikhil | I see | 16:18 |
rosmaita | nikhil: i think your suggestion to take this to ops is a good one | 16:18 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: otoh, I hope no one uses community images as a way to deprecate old images | 16:19 |
nikhil | rosmaita: thanks, adding it to list of emails I need send to ops | 16:19 |
rosmaita | nikhil: it would be a workaround ... but maybe we should mention the ongoing "image lifecycle" discussion so people don't start using the workaround! | 16:20 |
rosmaita | (already got some comments on that WIP patch i put up) | 16:20 |
nikhil | rosmaita: totally! | 16:20 |
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rosmaita | nikhil: is there a mid-cycle etherpad yet? | 16:21 |
tsymanczyk | nikhil : perhaps i'm mixing terminology, but (currently) in the spec the 2nd explicit usecase for community images is for operators to downgrade an old image and discourage its use without making it inaccessible to people who need it. is that a wrong intent? should i remove that? (line 56) | 16:21 |
nikhil | rosmaita: oh wow, can you add my name to reviewer list. that way I can get the email. I dunno what review it is. | 16:21 |
rosmaita | tsymanczyk: you are correct | 16:22 |
nikhil | rosmaita: not yet, let me create one if you need it now (it will be blank) | 16:22 |
rosmaita | that was one of the use cases | 16:22 |
rosmaita | nikhil: no rush, i just want to make sure rolling upgrades gets some time | 16:22 |
rosmaita | i don't have a time preference, any time will do | 16:23 |
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tsymanczyk | for my own understanding, how is that intended use case different from deprecating an old image? | 16:23 |
rosmaita | nikhil: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327980/ | 16:23 |
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rosmaita | tsymanczyk: it's very similar in that the aim is that an operator wants to make the image available for someone who needs it, but not have it show up in the default image-list, and further the op wants it to be clear that the image isn't supported at the same level as an ordinary "base" (public) image | 16:25 |
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rosmaita | tsymanczyk: the image lifecycle stuff is a new idea to keep the images 'public' and available but out of the default image list | 16:25 |
rosmaita | tsymanczyk: so now that you mention it, changing the image to 'community' might be perfectly OK | 16:26 |
rosmaita | depends on what the operator wants to communicate to the end users, i guess | 16:26 |
nikhil | rosmaita: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-virtual-midcycle | 16:26 |
rosmaita | (though maybe nikhil has something else in mind) | 16:26 |
rosmaita | nikhil: ty | 16:26 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: tsymanczyk : totally forgot about it | 16:29 |
nikhil | rosmaita: how does the contract stuff works? are images that are indicated to be old are not legally supported? | 16:30 |
nikhil | (or is there a minimal gurantee) | 16:31 |
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nikhil | I am mostly thinking if those images go to community, they will become part of a very large pool and it will be rather very difficult for the users to identify which ones are provided by operator vs. user. even if the filter is used, I guess there may be 30 (random large number) odd ubuntu.14.xx images, which is difficult identify if you do not have a uuid, | 16:33 |
nikhil | if you have a uuid you wouldn't need a list. | 16:33 |
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nikhil | but may be that's okay? (because the large number of list is possible in any other mechanism) | 16:34 |
rosmaita | nikhil: the contract stuff is going to be relative to what kind of agreement/guarantee the operator gives to the end user | 16:37 |
rosmaita | but your point about finding the image is a good one | 16:38 |
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rosmaita | although, the op could use a protected property and publicize it, so that users could filter on that | 16:38 |
rosmaita | but i think you are right, most ops would probably want 'public' images to remain 'public', just hidden somehow | 16:39 |
rosmaita | and the really dangerous old ones could be made 'private' and shared with specific users who still need them for some reason | 16:39 |
rosmaita | there are a lot of ways this could go | 16:40 |
nikhil | indeed, looks like another scenario worthy to gather operator stories | 16:41 |
nikhil | rosmaita: I may be missing something part of the api, but can we filter on specific prot properties today? | 16:41 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: I think I am missing something; if we are proposing to retain the image members on a public image after some transition, are we also proposing to add members to a public image (bookmarking). something that would entail making some other non-related changes to this proposal (or may be we can brand this related to the visibility semantics changes) | 16:43 |
* nikhil hesitent.. at this point, feels like breaking down this into two proposals | 16:45 | |
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rosmaita | nikhil: tsymanczyk: we should definitely discuss this next week -- it does seem to be getting out of hand | 16:53 |
tsymanczyk | agreed. i think both of the open questions are becoming related - we need to know how we want to track membership v bookmarking so that we can understand the implications of "leaving" members on a public image. | 16:54 |
rosmaita | nikhil: tbh, i don't know how smart the filtering is with respect to protected properties -- i mean if property 'p' is not user-readable, i wonder if you can still use it in GET v2/images?p=someval and you'll get a list of images, but property 'p' won't appear in any of them in the response | 16:56 |
rosmaita | nikhil: but what i had in mind earlier was that an operator could make a property 'my.cloud.supported': 'true' writable by admins only but readable by all, and then a user could find those images by GET v2/images?visibility=community&my.cloud.supported=true | 16:58 |
openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: Deprecate the Glance v1 API https://review.openstack.org/328390 | 17:01 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: tsymanczyk : Thanks for the clarification. | 17:24 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: fyi, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreSummer2016Sprint | 17:24 |
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rosmaita | flwang1: flwang: yt? | 17:42 |
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nikhil | rosmaita: friday 6pm in auckland :) | 17:53 |
nikhil | rosmaita: sorry, 6am saturday (even better :P) | 17:53 |
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rosmaita | nikhil: thanks! | 18:24 |
rosmaita | flwang1: hope you are having a good weekend, i am going to update the image lifecycle patch in a few minutes in response to some comments ... just wanted to make sure we didn't try to update at the same time | 18:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Castulo J. Martinez proposed openstack/glance: Fixes the use of dates when listing images https://review.openstack.org/319682 | 20:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Timothy Symanczyk proposed openstack/glance: WIP Add explicit 'visibility' column to images https://review.openstack.org/326128 | 22:23 |
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